beg to differ .... this the Callithumpian Consort, Charles Peltz conducting, Stephen Drury on prepared piano. Tudor performs on the other piece on this CD.
what is a stunt.Anything new or any action can be termed such.Open your closed minds.Accept may ideas not just Brahms or Deprez. People bring things into the world.A gift is not junk esp.when people have thought long and hard!
amazing 60years later people wont see.Lennon adn Ono put love out there and people still refuse to see the primacy would rather fight. How does one go about saving the world.Cage,Boulez and Stockhausen& Babbitt. Really if u cant appreciate gold keep yo old crap.
John Cage is a composer who wanted to show people the idea that sound is all around them; that how it was composed, in what order didnt matter. He was a very humble person who didnt really care how people thought of him. He used everyday objects to display the idea that music is happening all of the time its just listening that turns on and off. He wanted to relinquish control which is why he created this piece & all of his chance music afterwards. He's has nothing to say and hes going to say it
great stuff. To those who think Cage was a composer more concerned with his reputation and image than the sounds themselves i suggest they read some of his books first before jumping to such conclusions...
I suspect the piece is not as good as "it sounds", i.e. our composer gets all the action out of the available timbres, but really has no ideas to speak of. Still, it sounds pretty damn inriguing, but I want to improve on it. Great photo of Cage, with his nose and forehead lit up like that, that is how he projected his image, he was a "I am really something, just look at me" type of person, the sounds by themselves would not have quite done the trick.
@fredericfranc It's good to know there's another person with perception out there in YouTube land. Like many of these so called "experimental/avant-garde" composers, Cage's career was more about the cult of the individual and less about the works themselves. Since most of them couldn't come up with anything coherent, they relied on gimmicks/stunts like unconventional timbres, nonstop dissonance, and "compositions" in which the players just sort of do whatever (not really compositions, frankly).
@koreankayagum I think Cage only relied on silence. He was inclined toward the comic gesture, but there was a serious purpose behind everything he did. 4'33 wasn't a joke, in other words --- but it can be quite funny. Cage's methods were quite coherent --- whether they produced anything that coheres is a separate issue. He was not in favor of imposing coherence on sounds.
beg to differ .... this the Callithumpian Consort, Charles Peltz conducting, Stephen Drury on prepared piano. Tudor performs on the other piece on this CD.
CallithumpianConsort 3 months ago
what is a stunt.Anything new or any action can be termed such.Open your closed minds.Accept may ideas not just Brahms or Deprez. People bring things into the world.A gift is not junk esp.when people have thought long and hard!
amazing 60years later people wont see.Lennon adn Ono put love out there and people still refuse to see the primacy would rather fight. How does one go about saving the world.Cage,Boulez and Stockhausen& Babbitt. Really if u cant appreciate gold keep yo old crap.
lovesGenet 6 months ago
I wish John Cage was less dead.
because88 7 months ago 4
John Cage is a composer who wanted to show people the idea that sound is all around them; that how it was composed, in what order didnt matter. He was a very humble person who didnt really care how people thought of him. He used everyday objects to display the idea that music is happening all of the time its just listening that turns on and off. He wanted to relinquish control which is why he created this piece & all of his chance music afterwards. He's has nothing to say and hes going to say it
hkoncelik 9 months ago 4
this ain't bad
Bagas 11 months ago
great stuff. To those who think Cage was a composer more concerned with his reputation and image than the sounds themselves i suggest they read some of his books first before jumping to such conclusions...
mrmike9959 1 year ago
@fredericfranc
@koreankayagum
@aggrorulz
GTFO
karoloandria 1 year ago
I suspect the piece is not as good as "it sounds", i.e. our composer gets all the action out of the available timbres, but really has no ideas to speak of. Still, it sounds pretty damn inriguing, but I want to improve on it. Great photo of Cage, with his nose and forehead lit up like that, that is how he projected his image, he was a "I am really something, just look at me" type of person, the sounds by themselves would not have quite done the trick.
fredericfranc 1 year ago
@fredericfranc It's good to know there's another person with perception out there in YouTube land. Like many of these so called "experimental/avant-garde" composers, Cage's career was more about the cult of the individual and less about the works themselves. Since most of them couldn't come up with anything coherent, they relied on gimmicks/stunts like unconventional timbres, nonstop dissonance, and "compositions" in which the players just sort of do whatever (not really compositions, frankly).
koreankayagum 1 year ago
@koreankayagum I think Cage only relied on silence. He was inclined toward the comic gesture, but there was a serious purpose behind everything he did. 4'33 wasn't a joke, in other words --- but it can be quite funny. Cage's methods were quite coherent --- whether they produced anything that coheres is a separate issue. He was not in favor of imposing coherence on sounds.
nobodady1 10 months ago
Horror musiace vicui!!
aggrorulz 2 years ago
@aggrorulz
Classical music is essentially 16th century horror music and cliche accordions and harps as if french faeries are out to get everyone.
Rajhoul 8 months ago
is this from the concert at the alte oper frankfurt in 1992?
lorenzarthur91 2 years ago
Lovely!!
Who are the performers?
maraboov 3 years ago
David Tudor on prepared piano, Ensemble Modern under Ingo Mezmacher
NewMusicXX 3 years ago
Thought so. I have the same recording
GreggaryPeccary 2 years ago
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leoralala 3 years ago