Amid a flood of guitar legends ala Hendrix, Stevie Ray, Eddie, Satch, Vai, Malmsteen, Nuno, Gary Moore, Slash... guys like George, Ritchie Kotzen, Mikey Angelo, Paul Gilbert, Herman Li, Vinnie Moore, Rory "the mad irishman", Tommy Emanuell apart from fans like us never really got the mass credit thet deserved.... Awesome song good memories....ah good times, good times
its got the most baddass hook in it this song. i don't know why but everything this guy speaks to me. must be channelling jimi in an 80s way or somethin
Just my opinion here(based on actual experience) How many of you guys(guitarists/performing musicians) have ever had a perfect night? Sound, feel, everyone else involved doing their job, etc. It is rare unfortunatally for me, I can count on one hand how many perfect nights I have had where everything clicked. I cherish and remember all of them after all these years. cherish them all my friends.
When and where did u hear that..and plus i wanna know who is one of those guys who can make any rig aound good..every time i am at a Lynch sound check...i think..(along with the others around me)...Holy Shit!...its like an earthquake personified!
George has said in interviews that he's not one of those guys who can make any rig sound good. He spends so much time perfecting his sound because he's inspired when he gets a killer tone going.
It's true that when he's playing live he truly looks like he's drifting off to another dimension in his head!
My gramma is a Voodoo witch/psychic in New Orleans and she is friends with George Lynch. She told me that he sold his soul to the devil - I'm not kidding.
@louieptuey LOL! I have to respond to this...too funny. No one can 'sell' their soul to the Devil. If you aren't one of God's children than you belong to the devil already. Another lie from the devil.
@louieptuey i bought georges soul for $2.99 at the walmart... from what i was told the chineese copied georges soul and packaged it for sale.. walmart only
@louieptuey you gramma is wrong dude, have met geo at least 3 times..and no he didnt sell his soul..this soul sellin crap on youtube is gettin old..you cant sell something that doesnt belong to you, god owns your soul...in the end he decides where you go...peace
Yeah i saw George front row a couple times now live...and they really aint kidding when u hear the stories of demons coming out of his pickups, it is a true test of reality...when he is on..(when hes in the zone).its like looking into another dimension just unbelievable!..when u realize the playing strength he has...u just going to wanna quit everything and start playing guitar. For the longest time i thought u could have George with another great guitarist to compose, but now i see the reason
This is Ray Gillen on vocals (the only song he sang on this album). Ray and George could have been a killer tandem. Such a shame Ray died in '93....he was an awesome vocalist.
if ray hadn't died, george would have been the most ideal guitarist to pair him up with after badlands disbanded. they compliment each other so well. in fact, i think george should've had him for lynch mob - but he was already taken at the time.
@inbetweentics He tried to get Ray twice. In 1989 George tried desperately to get Ray but he said he was committed to Badlands (love those discs too BTW). When George got Ray to do this song he asked again but once again Ray was committed to Sun Red Sun with his old friends. Before his death Ray admitted he should have joined Lynch Mob for what would have been Wicked Sensation and stayed as a Mob member. Either way we got some great tunes from both bands.
This came out AFTER Wicked sensation. This was the LAST record George did that had great guitar tone. Everything he has done since then sounds like crap. Oh, and Oni Logan couldn't hold a candle to Ray Gillan when it comes to singing...
Your right, I forgot the order they came out . I have to disagree with u as far as Ray Gillen & Oni Logan. I prefered Ray over Oni, both have great vocals & fit George very well. There are killer songs with great vocals on WS & Tangled n the Web. Im not real familiar with his work after SG. I loved the late Ray Gillen when he was with Jake and Badlands.
IMO, Lynch had his best tone ever on Back for the Attack and he never matched it completely after that although he still had some great tone.
I don't really see where we disagree. I prefer Ray as well. I think the tone on Back For The Attack and Sacred groove are equal in quality, even though very different from each other. By the way, Robert Mason sang on "Tangled In The Web"...
Alright so let me see if I have this correct, Oni sang on Wicked sensation correct?, Robert on Tangled? and Ray on a few songs of Sacred?
The tone on Back for the Attack was just so raw and in your face powerful, and it sounded like thats when Lynch really just told the producers FU and broke loose. and the mix was one of the best I have ever heard.
Back for the attack has awesome tone, but so did Under Lock And Key. Back For the attack seems to have more mids (you can really hear the Tube Screamer pedal). The tone on Sacred Groove sounds a bit thicker, and I just love the way it "growls". All 3 are awesome. Back in the day, Lynch had the only other tone that got me off besides Van Halen. Everyone else just sounded "generic"...
He did have a awesome tone of this cd for sure!...Under lock and bfta was good tones as well!..He kinda got a little deep reverbish-delay happy on bfta and at first turned me off,but the more I listened it became my fav Dokken cd eventually!...That deep delay-reverb actually ripped and brought out his vibrato wickedly!..I agree 100%..I also like Warren De Martini's stuff..In the early 80's they shared tricks,liks and tips and had a similar style,but not tone!..Warren kept his same tone I feel!
U see I could be wrong but if you listen to several of the songs on BFTA some of the riffs are almost dry amp with very little reverb or delay compared to most of his other stuff. There are some that have it added but he never over does it I dont think. I can get his sound from my Splawn amp or very close to it, I use diff pickups though.
I'll tell u who use to be raw, Jake E. Lee on Badlands, thats some raw amp playing with little effects. I like Lynch way better though personally, but both are killer.,
To me, I always thought that Back for the Attack was the thickest, rawest, most growl of any thus far. I mean when you crank up Heaven Sent, Night by Night, Cry of the Gypsy...etc...etc, those chords growl at you so powerful and then the fills he plays during the riff, then he comes in with those unforgettable leads, hell I like almost all Lynch 99.9999%.....I have a Splawn amp which was designed by Scott Splawn to favor his sound and VH as well. Scott likes them like we do.
tone?......are you guys on meth? "tone" is in the producers hands as it's mixed......no vintage pickups, no vintage Marshall amp heads. if you want proof, check-out how Madonna sounded on her first record......duh? the magic is in the fingers of these guys, no matter what vintage they play.... do early Van Halen and see how sophisticated that recording set-up was...and it wasn't "tone"....it was a guy with an instrument that had honed his sound to make his soul give us this....
you can say that with a straight face after hearing Eddie in interviews saying the best sound he'd ever had was in a little Fender tube amp? the audio engineer controls the "tones"...the record producer controls the audio engineer, and if the band happenes to be the producer, then the band has final say...until the record label steps in......yadda yadda yadda
Well i thought i had the best tone with the old ADA...and i think i lost it sometime after a bandmate was complaining it didn't have any "Balls" wtf...now i got a Bogner Uberschall and i cant get that sound back!....SO DONT LISTEN TO ANY BODY ABOUT UR SOUND!
Lynch needs to go back playing this kind of music. What a great song and great guitar playing.. George and Ray I think at there best!!
jakeinco24 5 months ago
was there ever a video for the song made?
jakeinco24 5 months ago
Amid a flood of guitar legends ala Hendrix, Stevie Ray, Eddie, Satch, Vai, Malmsteen, Nuno, Gary Moore, Slash... guys like George, Ritchie Kotzen, Mikey Angelo, Paul Gilbert, Herman Li, Vinnie Moore, Rory "the mad irishman", Tommy Emanuell apart from fans like us never really got the mass credit thet deserved.... Awesome song good memories....ah good times, good times
Chochili7 5 months ago 2
Honestly... probably my favorite vocal tone to go with George.
IIHamishII 5 months ago
Reg, you are right. Ray and George would have been killer! We at least have this song and this song rocks... Might be the best song on the album!
jakeinco24 6 months ago
awesome the cool thing is lynch mob and badlands where kinda from the same genre (badlands where just a tad bit blues) so ray fits perfect here
motleycrue24 9 months ago
When you hear this song live...the drum beats sound like your heartbeat...you have to hold on to what you love!
SlayerCrampsMisfits 1 year ago
fuck!!!!!! I love the solo to this!!!!!
izzydye 1 year ago
@izzydye yesssssssss
melodicexp 9 months ago
descomunal!
ROBERTVANJOVI 1 year ago
its got the most baddass hook in it this song. i don't know why but everything this guy speaks to me. must be channelling jimi in an 80s way or somethin
mivec25 1 year ago
fucking awesome lynch is the bomb of hard rock
Rotewal 1 year ago
Just my opinion here(based on actual experience) How many of you guys(guitarists/performing musicians) have ever had a perfect night? Sound, feel, everyone else involved doing their job, etc. It is rare unfortunatally for me, I can count on one hand how many perfect nights I have had where everything clicked. I cherish and remember all of them after all these years. cherish them all my friends.
izzydye 1 year ago
When and where did u hear that..and plus i wanna know who is one of those guys who can make any rig aound good..every time i am at a Lynch sound check...i think..(along with the others around me)...Holy Shit!...its like an earthquake personified!
666Goddammit666 1 year ago
George has said in interviews that he's not one of those guys who can make any rig sound good. He spends so much time perfecting his sound because he's inspired when he gets a killer tone going.
It's true that when he's playing live he truly looks like he's drifting off to another dimension in his head!
heem6 1 year ago
My gramma is a Voodoo witch/psychic in New Orleans and she is friends with George Lynch. She told me that he sold his soul to the devil - I'm not kidding.
louieptuey 2 years ago
@louieptuey LOL! I have to respond to this...too funny. No one can 'sell' their soul to the Devil. If you aren't one of God's children than you belong to the devil already. Another lie from the devil.
gallantentry 2 years ago
@gallantentry There is no such thing as "the Devil". It's just a boogeyman fable written by men.
cbond99 1 year ago
@cbond99 From your statement I can clearly see that you have never read the Bible. There are many devils.
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 2 Corinthians 11:14
gallantentry 1 year ago
@louieptuey i bought georges soul for $2.99 at the walmart... from what i was told the chineese copied georges soul and packaged it for sale.. walmart only
ITRIPOVERMYCOCK 1 year ago
@louieptuey you gramma is wrong dude, have met geo at least 3 times..and no he didnt sell his soul..this soul sellin crap on youtube is gettin old..you cant sell something that doesnt belong to you, god owns your soul...in the end he decides where you go...peace
42lynchmob 1 year ago
Yeah i saw George front row a couple times now live...and they really aint kidding when u hear the stories of demons coming out of his pickups, it is a true test of reality...when he is on..(when hes in the zone).its like looking into another dimension just unbelievable!..when u realize the playing strength he has...u just going to wanna quit everything and start playing guitar. For the longest time i thought u could have George with another great guitarist to compose, but now i see the reason
666Goddammit666 2 years ago
This is Ray Gillen on vocals (the only song he sang on this album). Ray and George could have been a killer tandem. Such a shame Ray died in '93....he was an awesome vocalist.
Reg197844 2 years ago 15
@Reg197844
if ray hadn't died, george would have been the most ideal guitarist to pair him up with after badlands disbanded. they compliment each other so well. in fact, i think george should've had him for lynch mob - but he was already taken at the time.
inbetweentics 1 year ago
@inbetweentics He tried to get Ray twice. In 1989 George tried desperately to get Ray but he said he was committed to Badlands (love those discs too BTW). When George got Ray to do this song he asked again but once again Ray was committed to Sun Red Sun with his old friends. Before his death Ray admitted he should have joined Lynch Mob for what would have been Wicked Sensation and stayed as a Mob member. Either way we got some great tunes from both bands.
RhoadsLynch 1 year ago
@RhoadsLynch
yeah, i remember that story. thanks for sharing that. sure do miss ray's voice.
inbetweentics 1 year ago
thank you!!!!!!!! I LOVE this album!!!!!!
izzydye 2 years ago
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always in my memories
theerawatech 2 years ago
Go RAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
rickinick 2 years ago
Ray had a great voice, and this song contains Lynch's best guitar tone ever. It's all gone downhill since then...
Thirdgen83 3 years ago
I couldn't agree with you more.
cobra339 3 years ago
Thats BS dude, Wicked Sensation was some great tone with a great singer.
guitargenius66 2 years ago
This came out AFTER Wicked sensation. This was the LAST record George did that had great guitar tone. Everything he has done since then sounds like crap. Oh, and Oni Logan couldn't hold a candle to Ray Gillan when it comes to singing...
Thirdgen83 2 years ago
Your right, I forgot the order they came out . I have to disagree with u as far as Ray Gillen & Oni Logan. I prefered Ray over Oni, both have great vocals & fit George very well. There are killer songs with great vocals on WS & Tangled n the Web. Im not real familiar with his work after SG. I loved the late Ray Gillen when he was with Jake and Badlands.
IMO, Lynch had his best tone ever on Back for the Attack and he never matched it completely after that although he still had some great tone.
guitargenius66 2 years ago
I don't really see where we disagree. I prefer Ray as well. I think the tone on Back For The Attack and Sacred groove are equal in quality, even though very different from each other. By the way, Robert Mason sang on "Tangled In The Web"...
Thirdgen83 2 years ago
Alright so let me see if I have this correct, Oni sang on Wicked sensation correct?, Robert on Tangled? and Ray on a few songs of Sacred?
The tone on Back for the Attack was just so raw and in your face powerful, and it sounded like thats when Lynch really just told the producers FU and broke loose. and the mix was one of the best I have ever heard.
guitargenius66 2 years ago
Yep. That's right.
Back for the attack has awesome tone, but so did Under Lock And Key. Back For the attack seems to have more mids (you can really hear the Tube Screamer pedal). The tone on Sacred Groove sounds a bit thicker, and I just love the way it "growls". All 3 are awesome. Back in the day, Lynch had the only other tone that got me off besides Van Halen. Everyone else just sounded "generic"...
Thirdgen83 2 years ago
He did have a awesome tone of this cd for sure!...Under lock and bfta was good tones as well!..He kinda got a little deep reverbish-delay happy on bfta and at first turned me off,but the more I listened it became my fav Dokken cd eventually!...That deep delay-reverb actually ripped and brought out his vibrato wickedly!..I agree 100%..I also like Warren De Martini's stuff..In the early 80's they shared tricks,liks and tips and had a similar style,but not tone!..Warren kept his same tone I feel!
Petie1 2 years ago
U see I could be wrong but if you listen to several of the songs on BFTA some of the riffs are almost dry amp with very little reverb or delay compared to most of his other stuff. There are some that have it added but he never over does it I dont think. I can get his sound from my Splawn amp or very close to it, I use diff pickups though.
guitargenius66 2 years ago
Nope ur right, just listened to it again first time ina while, def some reverb n delay n there....
guitargenius66 2 years ago
more verb than anything though.
I'll tell u who use to be raw, Jake E. Lee on Badlands, thats some raw amp playing with little effects. I like Lynch way better though personally, but both are killer.,
guitargenius66 2 years ago 2
To me, I always thought that Back for the Attack was the thickest, rawest, most growl of any thus far. I mean when you crank up Heaven Sent, Night by Night, Cry of the Gypsy...etc...etc, those chords growl at you so powerful and then the fills he plays during the riff, then he comes in with those unforgettable leads, hell I like almost all Lynch 99.9999%.....I have a Splawn amp which was designed by Scott Splawn to favor his sound and VH as well. Scott likes them like we do.
guitargenius66 2 years ago
tone?......are you guys on meth? "tone" is in the producers hands as it's mixed......no vintage pickups, no vintage Marshall amp heads. if you want proof, check-out how Madonna sounded on her first record......duh? the magic is in the fingers of these guys, no matter what vintage they play.... do early Van Halen and see how sophisticated that recording set-up was...and it wasn't "tone"....it was a guy with an instrument that had honed his sound to make his soul give us this....
itsabig 2 years ago
I would like to hear that magic on sky way guitar with 15W marshall which costs more than guitar.
Rafcyk 2 years ago
George could do that....George could play a tree branch and make it sound hot!
itsabig 2 years ago 8
Hmmm...convincing concept...but i would have to see that for myself
666Goddammit666 2 years ago
i guarantee you my friend if you gave EVH shabby equipment it wouldn't sound half as good
decent equipment is molded easily by the producer bad equipment is insanely hard to get a good sound out of its also harder to play quality wise
MrTomZombie 2 years ago
you can say that with a straight face after hearing Eddie in interviews saying the best sound he'd ever had was in a little Fender tube amp? the audio engineer controls the "tones"...the record producer controls the audio engineer, and if the band happenes to be the producer, then the band has final say...until the record label steps in......yadda yadda yadda
itsabig 2 years ago
Well i thought i had the best tone with the old ADA...and i think i lost it sometime after a bandmate was complaining it didn't have any "Balls" wtf...now i got a Bogner Uberschall and i cant get that sound back!....SO DONT LISTEN TO ANY BODY ABOUT UR SOUND!
666Goddammit666 2 years ago
ray gillen on vocals!!
RygelBand 3 years ago