Psoutrage you my friend are a stupid ass that is all I have to say. You clearly said it a turbo rx7 would beat a lightly model or stock camaro. Man you deserve to have a camaro if you really have one. Which I don't think you do.
RX7's are mad quick, you might call it rice but most turbo RX7's cant be beat by any stock or lightly modded camaro's, search for RX7's on youtube and youll find out they win more then they lose. And I own a Camaro i still wouldnt race an RX7
@plymouth426ful that is a very ignorant comment... 1.3l running a 6.7 1/4 mile and a 2.0l running a 6.5 you do not see that very much unless you highly modify (150k+ USD) a 5.5l+
@plymouth426ful so you are talking about the chevy nova? not a chevy II... yes twin turbo and only reason it can be street legal is because its pre smog simple as that... but its funny because there are faster cars then that lol... that are pre smog and can be street legal...
@Tj1056 The Chevy II is a Nova,this was used through 68 then dropped for the 69 model year to just Nova.If you look at the grill emblem on Larry Larsons Nova it says CHEVY II
well..... u spent alll that money on rice and that guy bought that for 4g and put 5 in it and still beat the rice! and the rice driver spent prbly 10 just buying the car
Tuners started the ignorant rumor that muscle cars cant turn because the tuners are getting upset from getting royally fucked in a straight-a-way. BTW i know a honda can turn better than a mustang, but the stang can still turn just fine tuners are just crybabys
OK commenting here is probably a waste, but.. Where do ppl get the idea that Camaros and other muscle cars don't handle corners? Sure it applies to old hot rods, but my 2000 Camaro SS handles almost as well as my 90 300ZX TT. It can get a bit unstable on really rough pavement, but that's it. I used to have an 06 Eclipse GT and even with minor mods it handled like crap. Too much power to the front wheels. Front drivers suck, BAD. I think the BS about muscle not cornering is just that, BS.
some rx-7 and its supposedly twin turboed? psh, eithor someone is lying or its just some weak jap car not making the power to go down the strip at a decent speed. The latter of the two seems more realistic.
i dunno why ppl come and watch a drag race and then say "but he would take him in a corner". Well obviously an rx7 would take it on the track but the simple fact is hes on a strip, not a track and no-one forced him to be there. Granted the RX7 driver could use some practice time but he still lost. As for American cars not being able to handle? Where have you been the past few years, under a rock perhaps? Look at cars like Z06 ant CTSV, theyr fuckin awesome. BTW i prefer JDM, Im just being honest
@northsidedrifting An R34 can take on a Zr1? Lmao. Keep living in denial land there rice boy. The camaro won cause it's modded? Ugh so is the RX7 dumb ass.
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The guy who drove the RX-7 didn't even get close to treeing it then spun his tires a quarter of the way down the track. This race was about the driver, not the car. RX-7 woulda won had the camaro driver been in it
i own a supercharged twin turbo dual exhaust 94 z28 camaro real badass power and fast speed but fuck racing it fuck screwing the engine to hell thats why igot a car for racing and a car for driving around and to the guy who says the rx7 woulda won learn your cars dipshit that piece of shit car sucks ass
supercharged twin turbo chevy? ha, every redneck in america wants that. muscle's only advantage is with linear acceleration. on the track, the fd will give you good reason to never speak again
that was a shitty ass race there was nothing impresive about it obviously the guy in the rx7 is a dumbass that dnt pay attention if their was a real racer in it the rx7 definatly wouldve won
Sure, you say that as if most Japanese cars compete in Le Mans? Nope, only shitty GT500 or whatever its called. Corvettes are LeMans son. So is Panoz ;)
racing is racing my friend. GT 500, JGTC and LeMans all require cars that can handle. Terrible argument. And we are talking about street cars not full tuned race spec vehicles. The Z06 and ZR1, saleen s7 are great cars but they are all 100k + cars. Lets look at the majority of performance cars that the big three produce. Mustang sucks at handling, camaro sucks at handling, and challenger, omg lets not even go there. My argument still stands. American cars just go straight really well, thats it.
You make any car handle. But still its not all on the car, the driver plays a huge factor. Also the majority of the roads in the US are long straightaways and not curvey snaked roads like in Japan and Europe. Make sense? Also I mean if American CARED about taking corners well they would and could do something about it. Its the fact that they don't care for road course racing and that America mainly consists of straight roads.
i agree. But thats where car enthusiasts rip on american cars for that very ideology. A sports car should be good at all aspects. Like a UFC martial artist and a boxer. My guess the UFC fighter will win because he is well rounded. I agree tho, american cars could definitely make some pretty good cars, the cobalt ss TC is proof of it. Just wish they would make more cars like that, but not FWD. FWD is the gay.
Plus I never really saw the whole " American cars can't turn" deal until they were getting their asses whooped in street races and drag races. Drag envy? No? It makes complete sense.
if you put lowering springs on a z28 you wouldn't believe the way that thing stick in a turn. then theres always the aftermarket custom suspension. mustangs don't handle that bad either. the corvette takes the cake though.
There are real imports doing mid 6 second 1/4 mile runs like the 350Z doing 6.6 seconds at 215 mph, Titan motor sports Supra and a truck doing mid 6 second passes. Even a gay Eclips with a RWD setup doing 6.9 and it's a 4 banger. Imports kick ass regardless if you don't like them. If it's RWD and it looks good, I'll like it.
There are domestics that do 5 sec 1/4 miles and EVEN 4 second 1/4 miles. Nice try though.
Called 10.5 Outlaws and Top Fuel series. P.S. Top Fuels are just 500cid Supercharged V8's running Nitro Methane. 500cid is a BIG restriction by the way for a time like that.
Plus JUN Auto's 300ZX is using the VG30DETT street V6. Both Japan and America makes great RWD cars but both also make faggy FWD fag magnets. Good tuner cars don't fart when you drive them. Good cars also have torque and traction. Two things honda doesn't have. I own a 91 300ZX, a 95 Supra and a 93 Lexus SC300. I just need a newer Corvette and a FD RX7 and I'm set for life.
I'm still waiting for someone to beat JUN Auto's 1991 Nissan 300ZX landspeed world record holder @ 260+ mph ( 419.87 km/h ) and their best time of 267+ mph ( 424.740 km/h ). Chevy's Corvette LS1 twin turbo do run 257 mph but hasn't beat Nissan's landspeed record yet. Ford only get to 241 mph so far. Faggy honda isn't fast enogh to hang with the big dogs.
the only reason imports are good at corners is cause there not going fast enough to loose control! hahaha thats why your so legendary skyline GTR got beat by a CHEVY ZR1 and a VIPER ACR. and dont be stupid they all cost about the same 10,000 isnt much when it comes to buying these cars. and i bet a cts stock would beat a rx7 around a track and a CTS-V would beat any other import.
they cost 20k more. and the records at nurburgring are filled with imports. there are only a handfull of american cars that ran less then 8min at nurburgring
its funny you say that because most american cars that get done up are old muscle cars that are 40 years old and cars back then handled like crap import or american. on the Nürburgring track the colbalt ss goes 8.20 and zr1 7.26 there is a lot of new american cars that are out that can handle and go fast. it just took them longer to come out with them.
wow....i hate it when ricers lose to a muscle car...and the SAME...excuse goes.."well...if we were on a track with turn I would win cuz muscles cars suck on turns"..stfu...muscle beats rice anyday anytime.
i agree muscle all the way!!!!!!!!!!besides the new muscle cars being built these days have better handeling then before so muscle is starting whoop ass on the track too!
plus, the rx7 can handle way better than on a quarter mile. the camero will flip over taking a turn. Plus Rotary has a better concept, and produces way less friction than pistons.
engine size doesn't determine the size of your little dick.
If your car has more power an is more heavier of course you'll have to slow down more than the lighter less horsepower car, a good driver can compensate somewhat but you cant defy the laws of physics(sure i spelled that wrong) if a turn on a track is slated for 50mph you better take it at 50 mph, any car can be made to go fast, just like any car can be made to take turns muscle included, half of the people on here talkin bout muscle cars can't turn, haven't even been to a real track with turns
well i live about 1 and a half hours from a real track, not one straight, and its very easy to see that the japanese and european cars destroy the american cars even tho the american cars have double the hp. thts the difference between a race car and a car tht can go in a straight line.
It's perfectly good for straightline speed comparisons, but a track is really the best way to compare cars. However, there's a lot to a car that just one track couldn't compare - it'll take a few tracks to truly test a car (changes of direction instead of just one way turning, suspension on bumpy areas or banked turns, straightline performance versus turning on varyingly curvy tracks, etc.)
Drag racing does well enough for the simply straightline comparison, but that's it.
turbos are replacement for displacement? turbos are a cheap way to get power. as well as supercharger. ya i know alot of big boys run supercharger but i much rather see a all motor car blister a forced induction car.
Actually, proper use of a turbo is better than naturally aspired.
The only issues with turbos is a possibly peaky power curve and cooling problems. If you use a turbo correctly, you won't have such problems, and have big block V8 performance in a smaller, lighter engine.
and then god said, "There is no replacement for displacement." gods people saw this and knew that it was good....the 11th commandment, read the bible or something!
Power is about air mass flow or mass/time. Since 1 cylinder stroke is basically a force hence tq This is the amount of force aquired at 1 instant in time How many times you get that force is just as important as how much force.
Since ci increase is linked to tq output reducing the ci only has 1 option to "substitute" ci and that is forced induction becuase by math terms in the equation determine volumetric eff etc change to bypass doubling or tripling the volume just run 25psi. DONE!. and still weight less than 2,300lbs :) Yes there is a subsitute
this isnt a maximum power output agrument....you said there is no replacement for displacement.....and your wrong....Math proves it....hit the books hillbilly you might learn something
haha hillbilly? boy i build some of the most expensive cars in the world. i have restored 100% orginal Yenko Camaros that sell for over $200,000. your just a dumb kid thinking you know something. the fact of the matter is that you will never pull the horsepower and torque out of a small engine as compared to a big engine. why dont you stop hitting the books and actually build something.
Like I said once before you can build cars but you cant read??........Build something???? Well when I was 14 I was replacing piston rings on the side of the track.......Then with my time in Iraq my job was to maintain the 6.5L duramax turbo diesel engines.....This "boy" was working on engines while dodging bullets......Turbos are a replacement for displacement its a proven math equation I wouldnt expect a narrow minded old school V8 guy like you to understand that......The truth hurts I know
i was meaning Turbo/Super Charging = Replacement for Displacement as in rather then putting a bigger engine, they put on Turbo's which give them the same if not more power then a bigger capacity engine. also not forgetting the engine becomes more efficient through Forced Induction (Burning Gas More Completely)
HP IS NOT POWER it's a mathematical calculation based on torque[power]andRPM it's an arbitrary number used to give an engine a rating for marketing.Can't compare the HP of 2 engines that operate at different rpm because hp isn't standardized eg 100HP@3000rpm is just as much power[torque]as 200HP@6000rpm. HP was invented for industrial engines that operate at a single rpm, cars operate across a powerband so average torque across the powerband is more relevant and V8's make more power/ltr at that.
hey 280zxmike, first of all wtf kinda person names himself after an aluminum car? and you call us trash! haha! second of all, you meet me and i gurantee you my z28 will wipe your jap ass all over the fukin road
stock for stock the RX-7 wouldnt get walked are you on crack. a stock 7 runs faster times than a stock camaro. and you dont know shit about RX-7's they are rear wheel drive, and ive personally out ran ss camaro's with spray, there not all that fast.
RX-7's are nice cars, but please be realistic. My friend has an RX-7 and I have a Camaro. I like his 7 but that doesn't mean its ever won. and not only that but the chevy engines are a lot cheaper to make rediculous and reliable power out of. Sorry man but you're wrong.
o im sorry is not like i work on a shop just for rx7's or anything. stock for stock an FD is faster than a camaro, maybe he sucks at driving, ive never lost to one so in my eyes you would be wrong.
twin turbos are stock on 3rd gens. single turbos are faster. so, its not gonna compare to a modded camaro on a strip. put these cars on a road course with good drivers and we'll see who gets dolly womped.
Gotta love it when the import lovers complain about a turboed import getting outrun by an all engine american car.Kinda sad to argue about really,it failed...let it rest.
ur retarded a stock camaro would get slammed by a twin turbo rx7 im all about muscle cars but sorry there are some tuners that are actual competition like rx 7, supra (2jz6ee engine with t51 turbo = fast), r34 skyline (not to mention awd > rwd sorry but if you cant see that then you really are retarded
what engine does the rx7 from your search have in it? and also ever heard of turnin up the boost on your turbo's who'd of thought you could do that retard
Why don't you try to find a faster stock time for an rx7? Turning up the boost still won't beat an SS and "I'm all about muscle cars"isn't fooling anyone you are just another deluded ricer fag.
P.S. your lack of intellect and knowledge about cars bores me I won't be answering anymore comments since I have people who aren't retards to talk too.
look you 2 hoes it says its twin turbo ok, camro it build on, but the rx7 dont seem stock, and by the way how you know about how the rx7 have a better reaction if you cant really see shit cuss the guy dont move his camera quick enough, and besides remember that v8 have faster reactions when press on gas
Please for the love of god replace that RX7 driver. That camero left the line a good 6/10's of a second faster. I dont think it would have won either way, but still a horrible start/launch.
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I understand that no one is entitled to my opinion, I dont care if that camaro can fly, I would still take an RX-7 any fuckn day of my life... Sorry... but people who understand cars in general would know this, and looking back at the actual history of how much respect people have for rotary motors, and there racing reliability, its a fact that a Camaro would never compare to something legendary... Oh... and the RX-7 looks way better than any Camaro in history, another fact i might add...
lol, respect for rotary motors isnt gonna make u faster. and when u get ur as beat u can jsut say "well i have a rotary so take 10 seconds off for respect" thats fucking gay. YOU JUST SAID its better but theres a video inches above proving to you one with TWIN turbo is worse. lolomfg a gen 1 will always look better than any import ever. so will any other camaro for that matter..
yea because a RX-7 has no curves or lines that still make it look like a new car. unlike the camero which looks like chevy was in a rush to put it out and slapped a bunch of metal together put an ss badge on it and said it looked good and was fast. dude stock vs stock RX-7 wins
yea come to Texas we know what's really good (f-bodies)... I don't have anything against imports I'm just tired of seeing little 16-19 year old spoiled rich kids thinking that just because they saw it in The Fast and The Furious that they're tuner can whoop a real American muscle car anyday. Well they're wrong.
there is only one factor in this race rotaries suck, i dont care who drives that rx7 the camaro is a faster car, maybe the camaro had a bad driver and thats why it didnt pull 20 cars on that rx7
muscle ftw
ChevyNova808 8 months ago
terrible driver no boost launch
1979FordsRock 1 year ago
Psoutrage you my friend are a stupid ass that is all I have to say. You clearly said it a turbo rx7 would beat a lightly model or stock camaro. Man you deserve to have a camaro if you really have one. Which I don't think you do.
camilo19201920 1 year ago
That camaro launched hard
camilo19201920 1 year ago
RX7's are mad quick, you might call it rice but most turbo RX7's cant be beat by any stock or lightly modded camaro's, search for RX7's on youtube and youll find out they win more then they lose. And I own a Camaro i still wouldnt race an RX7
psoutrage 1 year ago
throw a 4 rotor in that beast and it will eat every muscle car alive!!
zoom3it20 1 year ago
@zoom3it20 no it wouldn't, fastest rotary, which isnt street legal, would barely beat the fastest street legal car, which is a chevy ll.
plymouth426ful 1 year ago
@plymouth426ful that is a very ignorant comment... 1.3l running a 6.7 1/4 mile and a 2.0l running a 6.5 you do not see that very much unless you highly modify (150k+ USD) a 5.5l+
Tj1056 1 year ago
@Tj1056 ibnorant? no, never said rotary are garbage or anything like that, just saying v8's are capable of more
plymouth426ful 1 year ago
@plymouth426ful also the fastest street legal car is not a chevy II... and its only legal because its pre smog
Tj1056 1 year ago
@Tj1056 yes it is, if you dont believe me look up larry larson, his chevy ll ran a 6.94@204 mph. his car makes 2000+ hp.
plymouth426ful 1 year ago
@plymouth426ful so you are talking about the chevy nova? not a chevy II... yes twin turbo and only reason it can be street legal is because its pre smog simple as that... but its funny because there are faster cars then that lol... that are pre smog and can be street legal...
Tj1056 1 year ago
@Tj1056 The Chevy II is a Nova,this was used through 68 then dropped for the 69 model year to just Nova.If you look at the grill emblem on Larry Larsons Nova it says CHEVY II
s2bdooo 1 year ago
@Tj1056 than tell me the fastest street legal car, and give me the owners name
plymouth426ful 1 year ago
well..... u spent alll that money on rice and that guy bought that for 4g and put 5 in it and still beat the rice! and the rice driver spent prbly 10 just buying the car
RacerDude96 1 year ago
There's no way a tuner can beat a muscle car at the drag, but if it was a track, the tuner would most likely win. Both have their own qualities.
66SiK 1 year ago
@66SiK ur sure?
place after youtube dot com
watch?v=dSTNc1Vo5Qc&feature=related
jforce06 1 year ago
@66SiK aparently u have never seen a supra....fail*____*
sddrifting 1 year ago
Tuners started the ignorant rumor that muscle cars cant turn because the tuners are getting upset from getting royally fucked in a straight-a-way. BTW i know a honda can turn better than a mustang, but the stang can still turn just fine tuners are just crybabys
ILuCKy510 1 year ago
American Muscle will always beat Imports
BIGHAL2000 1 year ago
OK commenting here is probably a waste, but.. Where do ppl get the idea that Camaros and other muscle cars don't handle corners? Sure it applies to old hot rods, but my 2000 Camaro SS handles almost as well as my 90 300ZX TT. It can get a bit unstable on really rough pavement, but that's it. I used to have an 06 Eclipse GT and even with minor mods it handled like crap. Too much power to the front wheels. Front drivers suck, BAD. I think the BS about muscle not cornering is just that, BS.
nmbr5ml 1 year ago
tuners never have a upper hand when it comes to a muscle on the drag strip.
CowGuru015 1 year ago
some rx-7 and its supposedly twin turboed? psh, eithor someone is lying or its just some weak jap car not making the power to go down the strip at a decent speed. The latter of the two seems more realistic.
IrishmenV8 1 year ago
@IrishmenV8 They are all twin turbo. I think the driver being asleep had more to do with it.
10072018 1 year ago
damn alot of people cannot take a loss..Just take the L and learn a lesson or two.
infernoKid2 1 year ago
i dunno why ppl come and watch a drag race and then say "but he would take him in a corner". Well obviously an rx7 would take it on the track but the simple fact is hes on a strip, not a track and no-one forced him to be there. Granted the RX7 driver could use some practice time but he still lost. As for American cars not being able to handle? Where have you been the past few years, under a rock perhaps? Look at cars like Z06 ant CTSV, theyr fuckin awesome. BTW i prefer JDM, Im just being honest
Pule3 1 year ago
did the camera man fall asleep?
MagikDick 1 year ago 23
@MagikDick i know right. LMAO!!!!
bashor31 11 months ago
@MagikDick he didn't wanna show the rx7 winning
GamertagS3CS33 8 months ago
good race
TheDraindeimo 1 year ago
the skyline r34 can take and smoke that camaro to shit
northsidedrifting 1 year ago
@northsidedrifting and a zr1 can smoke the shit out of a r34 whats your point?
xbartosx 1 year ago
the r34 can take on the zr1,my point is that camaro only won cuz it was modded
northsidedrifting 1 year ago
@northsidedrifting well the rx7 was modded also so your point is useless
uniquedeath 1 year ago
@uniquedeath how do you know?
daddylexy 1 year ago
@daddylexy you can tell from the sound of the engine, off the start you can here a CAI
uniquedeath 1 year ago
@northsidedrifting An R34 can take on a Zr1? Lmao. Keep living in denial land there rice boy. The camaro won cause it's modded? Ugh so is the RX7 dumb ass.
TiKondaRoga 1 year ago
fuck you billy goat
MrCalamity22 2 years ago 4
RX-7 can smoke it in a corner though... that is where the real skill comes in. Camaro... stick to the straight where the losers are, okay?
billygoatdawg081992 2 years ago
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The guy who drove the RX-7 didn't even get close to treeing it then spun his tires a quarter of the way down the track. This race was about the driver, not the car. RX-7 woulda won had the camaro driver been in it
alexhc09 2 years ago
Haha my grandmother could have drove that RX-7 better
TeamMomentOfTruth 2 years ago 14
Muscles aren't good at a track? My ws6 might have something to say about that.
drunkendeity 2 years ago 3
caliss film comme du mnde caliss pas 20 secondes après tu les suits
chartlsv87 2 years ago
i own a supercharged twin turbo dual exhaust 94 z28 camaro real badass power and fast speed but fuck racing it fuck screwing the engine to hell thats why igot a car for racing and a car for driving around and to the guy who says the rx7 woulda won learn your cars dipshit that piece of shit car sucks ass
AgeOfOrtonTube 2 years ago
it probly would have, but the muscle got a really good jump
darkeyce02 2 years ago
supercharged twin turbo chevy? ha, every redneck in america wants that. muscle's only advantage is with linear acceleration. on the track, the fd will give you good reason to never speak again
jherther86 2 years ago 2
that was a shitty ass race there was nothing impresive about it obviously the guy in the rx7 is a dumbass that dnt pay attention if their was a real racer in it the rx7 definatly wouldve won
eloyleyva 2 years ago
atleast he tried with the cute turbo XD
GodschildJCE 2 years ago
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a worked camaro vs an rx7 with stock turbos, big whoop
Sefveron 2 years ago
my brother has a 95 camaro in red
729Andres 2 years ago
camaros for life
729Andres 2 years ago 2
nice launch dude . z28 are so badddddddddddd
TXMXKID 2 years ago
ANOTHER RICER BITES THE DUST !
HEMIH3AD 2 years ago 2
That's cute.
Primos003 2 years ago
do you even know what it means when you call a car a ricer? aparently not cause thats no ricer...
Aveoon32 2 years ago
twin turbo my ass, if so what the fuck??? why even spend money on a turbo cause a stock rx7 could almost pull the same...too slow for twin turbo
DiceRaw77 2 years ago
the reason its so slow is called rotary haha just a 1.4 not enough for a 5.7
lookngood18 2 years ago
it comes tt
lookngood18 2 years ago
haha ricers suck
ZINK454545 2 years ago
And for the "oh muscle cars can't turn". Any REAL driver would know, its the driver, not the car.
xZZxTakedown 2 years ago
that truth only goes so far. And unfortunately it does not apply between a camaro and a rx7. Rx7 would shame a camaro when racing a on race circuit.
ZeerXX 2 years ago
Sure, you say that as if most Japanese cars compete in Le Mans? Nope, only shitty GT500 or whatever its called. Corvettes are LeMans son. So is Panoz ;)
xZZxTakedown 2 years ago
racing is racing my friend. GT 500, JGTC and LeMans all require cars that can handle. Terrible argument. And we are talking about street cars not full tuned race spec vehicles. The Z06 and ZR1, saleen s7 are great cars but they are all 100k + cars. Lets look at the majority of performance cars that the big three produce. Mustang sucks at handling, camaro sucks at handling, and challenger, omg lets not even go there. My argument still stands. American cars just go straight really well, thats it.
ZeerXX 2 years ago
You make any car handle. But still its not all on the car, the driver plays a huge factor. Also the majority of the roads in the US are long straightaways and not curvey snaked roads like in Japan and Europe. Make sense? Also I mean if American CARED about taking corners well they would and could do something about it. Its the fact that they don't care for road course racing and that America mainly consists of straight roads.
xZZxTakedown 2 years ago
i agree. But thats where car enthusiasts rip on american cars for that very ideology. A sports car should be good at all aspects. Like a UFC martial artist and a boxer. My guess the UFC fighter will win because he is well rounded. I agree tho, american cars could definitely make some pretty good cars, the cobalt ss TC is proof of it. Just wish they would make more cars like that, but not FWD. FWD is the gay.
ZeerXX 2 years ago
Well its all depends on the individual ;)
xZZxTakedown 2 years ago
Plus I never really saw the whole " American cars can't turn" deal until they were getting their asses whooped in street races and drag races. Drag envy? No? It makes complete sense.
xZZxTakedown 2 years ago
Actually, it could be the car too.
But hey nothing that a good suspension kit can't fix.
linkdarkshadow 2 years ago
I know right? If Americans CARED about turning they would maybe put in a decent suspension kit but do they? NO!
And there are American cars that can turn. The one that can is a little something called the Viper ACR.
xZZxTakedown 2 years ago
if you put lowering springs on a z28 you wouldn't believe the way that thing stick in a turn. then theres always the aftermarket custom suspension. mustangs don't handle that bad either. the corvette takes the cake though.
kaputa814 2 years ago
There are real imports doing mid 6 second 1/4 mile runs like the 350Z doing 6.6 seconds at 215 mph, Titan motor sports Supra and a truck doing mid 6 second passes. Even a gay Eclips with a RWD setup doing 6.9 and it's a 4 banger. Imports kick ass regardless if you don't like them. If it's RWD and it looks good, I'll like it.
juno4000 2 years ago
There are domestics that do 5 sec 1/4 miles and EVEN 4 second 1/4 miles. Nice try though.
Called 10.5 Outlaws and Top Fuel series. P.S. Top Fuels are just 500cid Supercharged V8's running Nitro Methane. 500cid is a BIG restriction by the way for a time like that.
xZZxTakedown 2 years ago
Plus JUN Auto's 300ZX is using the VG30DETT street V6. Both Japan and America makes great RWD cars but both also make faggy FWD fag magnets. Good tuner cars don't fart when you drive them. Good cars also have torque and traction. Two things honda doesn't have. I own a 91 300ZX, a 95 Supra and a 93 Lexus SC300. I just need a newer Corvette and a FD RX7 and I'm set for life.
juno4000 2 years ago
I'm still waiting for someone to beat JUN Auto's 1991 Nissan 300ZX landspeed world record holder @ 260+ mph ( 419.87 km/h ) and their best time of 267+ mph ( 424.740 km/h ). Chevy's Corvette LS1 twin turbo do run 257 mph but hasn't beat Nissan's landspeed record yet. Ford only get to 241 mph so far. Faggy honda isn't fast enogh to hang with the big dogs.
juno4000 2 years ago
the only reason imports are good at corners is cause there not going fast enough to loose control! hahaha thats why your so legendary skyline GTR got beat by a CHEVY ZR1 and a VIPER ACR. and dont be stupid they all cost about the same 10,000 isnt much when it comes to buying these cars. and i bet a cts stock would beat a rx7 around a track and a CTS-V would beat any other import.
SiCKxDRIFT 2 years ago 3
they cost 20k more. and the records at nurburgring are filled with imports. there are only a handfull of american cars that ran less then 8min at nurburgring
dib07ce 2 years ago
Gee George which way did he go?
rmxrider20032000 2 years ago
next time film the shit right
DEZUZD 2 years ago
so many muscle that make company lost money lol
happyboyy8k 2 years ago
yeah right dipshit, a zo6 vette will dust a ricers ass even in a turn. american muscle wins every time.
metalrose17 2 years ago
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american cars are good at going straight but when theres a turn imports come out first
xLethalLlamax 2 years ago
its funny you say that because most american cars that get done up are old muscle cars that are 40 years old and cars back then handled like crap import or american. on the Nürburgring track the colbalt ss goes 8.20 and zr1 7.26 there is a lot of new american cars that are out that can handle and go fast. it just took them longer to come out with them.
goonboat 2 years ago
wow....i hate it when ricers lose to a muscle car...and the SAME...excuse goes.."well...if we were on a track with turn I would win cuz muscles cars suck on turns"..stfu...muscle beats rice anyday anytime.
lysenko133 2 years ago 2
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anything beats rice. its tuners and imports tht fuck muscle cars up
partyhatsteve 2 years ago
i agree muscle all the way!!!!!!!!!!besides the new muscle cars being built these days have better handeling then before so muscle is starting whoop ass on the track too!
ACsnyper 2 years ago
plus, the rx7 can handle way better than on a quarter mile. the camero will flip over taking a turn. Plus Rotary has a better concept, and produces way less friction than pistons.
engine size doesn't determine the size of your little dick.
goomba2smash 2 years ago
Lol What do dicks have to do with a race track?
paladineXD 2 years ago
u forgot to mension that rotary has a extreme disadvantage with torque
98camaro1 2 years ago 2
it has a weight advantage tho but yeah torque is a problem
partyhatsteve 2 years ago
camaro is fast but its boring.
thats why I like the Rx7 better.
tuning is pretty cool.
why would you want to have a fast stock car?
goomba2smash 2 years ago
so that whn u make it faster its a beast..maybe??
kee8484 2 years ago 3
lol what the other kid said... you are retarded.. it looks better and the engine is capable of WAY more power than the rotary mazda engine..
xmodrock 2 years ago 2
yea a rx7 can beat a camaro.. if its modded to all fuck..and thats the only way..so fuck that pile of junk rx7
kee8484 2 years ago 3
hayyy i like rx7's :(
but i like camaros better.
ThatsTooSmall 2 years ago
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muscle is only good for drag racing... put one tight turn on that track and the RX-7 prolly would have won
KoGaWataru 2 years ago
are we racing for who's got faster car or who is better infront of the wheel???
if you ask me we racing for who's faster.
h3333llraiser 2 years ago
i meant that most muscle cars cant turn for shit w/o slowing down way more than most tuner cars including the RX-7...
not how good the driver is...
KoGaWataru 2 years ago
If your car has more power an is more heavier of course you'll have to slow down more than the lighter less horsepower car, a good driver can compensate somewhat but you cant defy the laws of physics(sure i spelled that wrong) if a turn on a track is slated for 50mph you better take it at 50 mph, any car can be made to go fast, just like any car can be made to take turns muscle included, half of the people on here talkin bout muscle cars can't turn, haven't even been to a real track with turns
magnificent10304 2 years ago 5
well i live about 1 and a half hours from a real track, not one straight, and its very easy to see that the japanese and european cars destroy the american cars even tho the american cars have double the hp. thts the difference between a race car and a car tht can go in a straight line.
partyhatsteve 2 years ago
damn right. straight lines are for amatures
partyhatsteve 2 years ago
Wow, that is some shitty footage. With a good launch would have been a real race. Ah well, its just a TT 1.3L. lol
phoenixtsi 2 years ago
hahaheheeee man i thought that TWINTURBO was goin to beat the camaro BUT it didnt thats why i love MUSCLE cars none of that stupid tuner shit
omarartgshadow 2 years ago
Crappy video. Not a good comparison at all (we have no idea what either car is running in tems of mods) and also the actual footage sucks.
Plus, it's drag racing.
Barcode711 2 years ago
Pfft..brute strength.
TheLastGreed 2 years ago
It's perfectly good for straightline speed comparisons, but a track is really the best way to compare cars. However, there's a lot to a car that just one track couldn't compare - it'll take a few tracks to truly test a car (changes of direction instead of just one way turning, suspension on bumpy areas or banked turns, straightline performance versus turning on varyingly curvy tracks, etc.)
Drag racing does well enough for the simply straightline comparison, but that's it.
Barcode711 2 years ago
finaly someone making sense lol
partyhatsteve 2 years ago
turbos are replacement for displacement? turbos are a cheap way to get power. as well as supercharger. ya i know alot of big boys run supercharger but i much rather see a all motor car blister a forced induction car.
rebelsenior3 2 years ago
Actually, proper use of a turbo is better than naturally aspired.
The only issues with turbos is a possibly peaky power curve and cooling problems. If you use a turbo correctly, you won't have such problems, and have big block V8 performance in a smaller, lighter engine.
omgScrub 2 years ago
haha this cameraman has amazing reaction time
penam1991 2 years ago
the camera man has superpower reflexes
bridgeportedrotary 2 years ago
that was the worst video ever. and the rx-7 didnt even take off.
sycopath417 2 years ago
and then god said, "There is no replacement for displacement." gods people saw this and knew that it was good....the 11th commandment, read the bible or something!
negativeeffect15 2 years ago
Power is about air mass flow or mass/time. Since 1 cylinder stroke is basically a force hence tq This is the amount of force aquired at 1 instant in time How many times you get that force is just as important as how much force.
supraturboLBJ 2 years ago
Since ci increase is linked to tq output reducing the ci only has 1 option to "substitute" ci and that is forced induction becuase by math terms in the equation determine volumetric eff etc change to bypass doubling or tripling the volume just run 25psi. DONE!. and still weight less than 2,300lbs :) Yes there is a subsitute
supraturboLBJ 2 years ago
however if the same it done to a larger engine then you have larger outputs...no replacement for displacement
negativeeffect15 2 years ago
this isnt a maximum power output agrument....you said there is no replacement for displacement.....and your wrong....Math proves it....hit the books hillbilly you might learn something
supraturboLBJ 2 years ago
haha hillbilly? boy i build some of the most expensive cars in the world. i have restored 100% orginal Yenko Camaros that sell for over $200,000. your just a dumb kid thinking you know something. the fact of the matter is that you will never pull the horsepower and torque out of a small engine as compared to a big engine. why dont you stop hitting the books and actually build something.
negativeeffect15 2 years ago
Like I said once before you can build cars but you cant read??........Build something???? Well when I was 14 I was replacing piston rings on the side of the track.......Then with my time in Iraq my job was to maintain the 6.5L duramax turbo diesel engines.....This "boy" was working on engines while dodging bullets......Turbos are a replacement for displacement its a proven math equation I wouldnt expect a narrow minded old school V8 guy like you to understand that......The truth hurts I know
supraturboLBJ 2 years ago
Turbo/Super Charging = Replacement for Displacement, pwned Batch! :'( Awwh have a cry kk bye
toofbar3 2 years ago
A larger engine can be supercharged and make more power than a smaller supercharged engine ,still no replacement for displacement[don't cry too hard]
s2bdooo 2 years ago
i was meaning Turbo/Super Charging = Replacement for Displacement as in rather then putting a bigger engine, they put on Turbo's which give them the same if not more power then a bigger capacity engine. also not forgetting the engine becomes more efficient through Forced Induction (Burning Gas More Completely)
toofbar3 2 years ago
Look Jap Engines are just more efficient then American engines plain and simple, More HP per Liter in Jap Engines.
toofbar3 2 years ago
HP IS NOT POWER it's a mathematical calculation based on torque[power]andRPM it's an arbitrary number used to give an engine a rating for marketing.Can't compare the HP of 2 engines that operate at different rpm because hp isn't standardized eg 100HP@3000rpm is just as much power[torque]as 200HP@6000rpm. HP was invented for industrial engines that operate at a single rpm, cars operate across a powerband so average torque across the powerband is more relevant and V8's make more power/ltr at that.
s2bdooo 2 years ago
Owned his ass
JProckz28 2 years ago
way to film buddy.
drewj50 2 years ago
lag lol
naniekso 3 years ago 3
somebody doesnt know how to film....
thedawg9981 3 years ago 3
Is it just me or is the Camera man a fucking retard who doesn't know know to record
Strogenforcer 3 years ago 3
stock to stock plz, camaros are junk and everyone knows it except for the trash that drive them, and rx7's are not awd
280zxmike 3 years ago
hey 280zxmike, first of all wtf kinda person names himself after an aluminum car? and you call us trash! haha! second of all, you meet me and i gurantee you my z28 will wipe your jap ass all over the fukin road
yourmom22345 3 years ago 2
well apparently you dont kno your shit becuz most pro drag cars weigh less than a gutted civic, dumbass
280zxmike 3 years ago
1000s of horsepower is great for a drag.
Try putting that to an autocross or a drift competition.
A compact little civic or rx-7 is good there..
Da1RiSiN1sMoKe 3 years ago
I don't see an american cars running power with all them extra cylinders.
Castrol oil had a contest between magazines.
Modified magazine had a mitsu evo with 2.0 liter engine.
1030whp with about 650lbs/ft of torque.
The lowrider magazine had a 350 chevy block.
8.0 liter that put out 1080whp and about 700 lbs/ft torque.
Yep, no replacement for displacement, but I would've expected more from that chevy.
Da1RiSiN1sMoKe 3 years ago
ha that ricer was ate up and shit out
jaahut 3 years ago
Do you even know what a ricer is?
Da1RiSiN1sMoKe 3 years ago
stock for stock the RX-7 wouldnt get walked are you on crack. a stock 7 runs faster times than a stock camaro. and you dont know shit about RX-7's they are rear wheel drive, and ive personally out ran ss camaro's with spray, there not all that fast.
v8killa09 3 years ago
RX-7's are nice cars, but please be realistic. My friend has an RX-7 and I have a Camaro. I like his 7 but that doesn't mean its ever won. and not only that but the chevy engines are a lot cheaper to make rediculous and reliable power out of. Sorry man but you're wrong.
HaF519 3 years ago
o im sorry is not like i work on a shop just for rx7's or anything. stock for stock an FD is faster than a camaro, maybe he sucks at driving, ive never lost to one so in my eyes you would be wrong.
v8killa09 3 years ago
damm that fd got worked
eyeball54f1 3 years ago
america + fastin a straight line
blacksixspeed 3 years ago
haha dude were u sleeping or something? LOL
Nartanian 3 years ago
and you cant turn up the boost that much on a stock rx.
evanpoinsett 3 years ago
twin turbos are stock on 3rd gens. single turbos are faster. so, its not gonna compare to a modded camaro on a strip. put these cars on a road course with good drivers and we'll see who gets dolly womped.
evanpoinsett 3 years ago
Gotta love it when the import lovers complain about a turboed import getting outrun by an all engine american car.Kinda sad to argue about really,it failed...let it rest.
1990iroczmuscle 3 years ago
it didnt loose that badly. and i dont see any american motors people are running 10s in that are a 1.3 liter
zeroflat24 3 years ago
ur retarded a stock camaro would get slammed by a twin turbo rx7 im all about muscle cars but sorry there are some tuners that are actual competition like rx 7, supra (2jz6ee engine with t51 turbo = fast), r34 skyline (not to mention awd > rwd sorry but if you cant see that then you really are retarded
prevwan 3 years ago
The stock performance figures for these 2 cars are:
Twin turbo RX7 0-60 6.3 quarter mile 14.9
SS Camaro 0-60 5.2 quarter mile 13.6
Maybe you should use your computer to learn the facts instead of making completely retarded comments.
s2bdooo 3 years ago
what engine does the rx7 from your search have in it? and also ever heard of turnin up the boost on your turbo's who'd of thought you could do that retard
prevwan 3 years ago
Why don't you try to find a faster stock time for an rx7? Turning up the boost still won't beat an SS and "I'm all about muscle cars"isn't fooling anyone you are just another deluded ricer fag.
P.S. your lack of intellect and knowledge about cars bores me I won't be answering anymore comments since I have people who aren't retards to talk too.
s2bdooo 3 years ago
just to let you know its 2jzgte.
bkszfin3st 3 years ago
the 2jzgte is a toyota motor,the rx7s is 13b-re
Tankb18c 3 years ago
i think the level of mod on these 2 cars aint the same....
stock turbo on the RX-7? cus i know RX7's that runs 9s and 8s.
and that Camaro was quick.
tristantao 3 years ago
lol the camaro driver had way better reaction time and the rx7 driver was horrible with twin turbo he should of eaten that camaro
prevwan 3 years ago
That looked about looked like a stock RX-7...255 HP...I have a feeling that Camaro was pushing a lot more than that.
CyberPitz 3 years ago
look you 2 hoes it says its twin turbo ok, camro it build on, but the rx7 dont seem stock, and by the way how you know about how the rx7 have a better reaction if you cant really see shit cuss the guy dont move his camera quick enough, and besides remember that v8 have faster reactions when press on gas
cholodesanfe87 3 years ago
good thing the camara man aint driving haha...
Reaper666DV 3 years ago
100% american muscle
rodrixsweet 3 years ago
the driver of the camaro had so much time to take a shit and come back and see the rx7 got to the finish line
cholodesanfe87 3 years ago 2
rx7 bathurst or not was stock.
camaro had boltons and chip.
camaro was fast. rx7 driver sucked, but its still slower.
decrunkman 3 years ago
hey bridgeportedROTARD
-SUCK MY BALLS
balla740 3 years ago
Please for the love of god replace that RX7 driver. That camero left the line a good 6/10's of a second faster. I dont think it would have won either way, but still a horrible start/launch.
DaShnipa 3 years ago
Now that's what I call a good camera man...
jimthecarguy 3 years ago 4
slightly delayed reaction
ctc2531 3 years ago
lol
slipknotdustin 3 years ago
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I understand that no one is entitled to my opinion, I dont care if that camaro can fly, I would still take an RX-7 any fuckn day of my life... Sorry... but people who understand cars in general would know this, and looking back at the actual history of how much respect people have for rotary motors, and there racing reliability, its a fact that a Camaro would never compare to something legendary... Oh... and the RX-7 looks way better than any Camaro in history, another fact i might add...
ridge147 3 years ago
lol, respect for rotary motors isnt gonna make u faster. and when u get ur as beat u can jsut say "well i have a rotary so take 10 seconds off for respect" thats fucking gay. YOU JUST SAID its better but theres a video inches above proving to you one with TWIN turbo is worse. lolomfg a gen 1 will always look better than any import ever. so will any other camaro for that matter..
fatalorgasm92 3 years ago
but the pussy goes towards camaros ;)
bigboyr7 3 years ago
sure i bet girls love cars with no looks that are slow.
v8killa09 3 years ago
"sure i bet girls love cars with no looks that are slow."
You mean the RX7?
Anhaedra 3 years ago
yea because a RX-7 has no curves or lines that still make it look like a new car. unlike the camero which looks like chevy was in a rush to put it out and slapped a bunch of metal together put an ss badge on it and said it looked good and was fast. dude stock vs stock RX-7 wins
v8killa09 3 years ago
stock vs stock? lolwut?
have fun replacing those apex seals! :)
Anhaedra 3 years ago
*Points at the 250k engine in my RX-7...*
Wut?
CyberPitz 3 years ago
no they dont thats why they dont like piece of shit imports. from what i know they love the way a v8 rumbles under there pussy
bigboyr7 3 years ago
american muscle #1
rodrixsweet 3 years ago 2
the camaro clearly doesn't have a stock engine, and "theoretically" the rx-7 type R Bathurst is one of the fastest drag cars. Twin rotary > all
hcesta 3 years ago
yea come to Texas we know what's really good (f-bodies)... I don't have anything against imports I'm just tired of seeing little 16-19 year old spoiled rich kids thinking that just because they saw it in The Fast and The Furious that they're tuner can whoop a real American muscle car anyday. Well they're wrong.
DMPKillaz 3 years ago 3
Too many factors in this race. Way too many. That is a very quick camaro however.
djayangel 3 years ago
there is only one factor in this race rotaries suck, i dont care who drives that rx7 the camaro is a faster car, maybe the camaro had a bad driver and thats why it didnt pull 20 cars on that rx7
balla740 3 years ago 23