I am kind of doing this but I workout and I cannot eliminate dairy because I eat protein bars and drink protein shakes. But I do eliminate grains and my abs are looking better and better from the day I stopped eating grains.
I know you say to avoid dairy but I notice many paleos eat cream, such as in coffee. I'm confused as to whether regular, full-fat cream (provided it has no added anything) is a problem. My mother was told by a naturopath to avoid milk but that cream was OK as it doesn't contain the milk proteins. Any thoughts on this, please?
@lumabi25 Dairy is not part of the paleo diet, however those wishing to follow a modified version may consider fermented dairy products (live yoghurt etc). Cream contains all of the milk proteins. Fermented dairy products, or whey protein are normally far better. Hope that helps.
I agree with your conclusions, but your argument is faulty because it ignores NATURAL SELECTION (the engine driving evolution). The addition of grains to our diet did NOT produce an outcome to influence natural selection. By the time problems associated with consumption of grains impacts a generation, they would have already reproduced, passing on genes. 10k yrs would be PLENTY of time if grains were toxic over a time short enough to impact reproduction of some individuals in the population.
@jbharr Natural selection in this case would have to occur over a very long period of time, 10000 years is but a blip in the time sequence of events that have shaped us. Remember grains and beans do not cause immediate outcomes in terms of harm to health, hence the natural selection process would work much slower. Key researchers in this area have addressed these points. Check out research by Eaton.
@bubbetfetish Very true, any means of reducing the level of phytates, lectins and enzyme inhibitors is a good idea. Sprouting and soaking of grains/beans is a great idea. I respect Sally Fallon, and the
@BlackVoicesOnFilm Yep beans are frequently consumed as a meat replacement in countries thet have large populations to feed. Phytates can actually be deactivated if foods are soaked, sprouted or fermented. Your so right its modern day milk thats the real issue, its a world of difference to grass fed raw milk - which i think is just fine. Raw milk has naturally occuring bacteria that break down lactose, so is easier to digest. Your right some can tolerate lactose better than others.
@BlackVoicesOnFilm IP6 (supplement) is phytic acid, it has benefits as an antioxidant. Phytates in foods do us more harm than good, because they bind to essential minerals. Most people are already so low in minerals like zinc, magnesium and iron etc, phytate just makes matters worse. I reckon IP6 supplements are best taken away from mineral rich foods
I am kind of doing this but I workout and I cannot eliminate dairy because I eat protein bars and drink protein shakes. But I do eliminate grains and my abs are looking better and better from the day I stopped eating grains.
iLift94 3 months ago
what about miso?
namitsu1 4 months ago
I know you say to avoid dairy but I notice many paleos eat cream, such as in coffee. I'm confused as to whether regular, full-fat cream (provided it has no added anything) is a problem. My mother was told by a naturopath to avoid milk but that cream was OK as it doesn't contain the milk proteins. Any thoughts on this, please?
lumabi25 5 months ago
@lumabi25 Dairy is not part of the paleo diet, however those wishing to follow a modified version may consider fermented dairy products (live yoghurt etc). Cream contains all of the milk proteins. Fermented dairy products, or whey protein are normally far better. Hope that helps.
Vitatalks 5 months ago
I agree with your conclusions, but your argument is faulty because it ignores NATURAL SELECTION (the engine driving evolution). The addition of grains to our diet did NOT produce an outcome to influence natural selection. By the time problems associated with consumption of grains impacts a generation, they would have already reproduced, passing on genes. 10k yrs would be PLENTY of time if grains were toxic over a time short enough to impact reproduction of some individuals in the population.
jbharr 6 months ago
@jbharr Natural selection in this case would have to occur over a very long period of time, 10000 years is but a blip in the time sequence of events that have shaped us. Remember grains and beans do not cause immediate outcomes in terms of harm to health, hence the natural selection process would work much slower. Key researchers in this area have addressed these points. Check out research by Eaton.
Vitatalks 6 months ago
so you talking potatoes but wat about yams? or sweet potatoes
killarmy101 8 months ago
@killarmy101 Apparently they are not ok, but I reckon they are not nearly as bad as normal potatoes.
Vitatalks 8 months ago
what about soaking your grains in an acid medium to break down the enzymes inhibitors and phtates per sally fallon
bubbetfetish 9 months ago
@bubbetfetish Very true, any means of reducing the level of phytates, lectins and enzyme inhibitors is a good idea. Sprouting and soaking of grains/beans is a great idea. I respect Sally Fallon, and the
Weston Price foundation, they do some great work.
Vitatalks 9 months ago
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BlackVoicesOnFilm 1 year ago
@BlackVoicesOnFilm Yep beans are frequently consumed as a meat replacement in countries thet have large populations to feed. Phytates can actually be deactivated if foods are soaked, sprouted or fermented. Your so right its modern day milk thats the real issue, its a world of difference to grass fed raw milk - which i think is just fine. Raw milk has naturally occuring bacteria that break down lactose, so is easier to digest. Your right some can tolerate lactose better than others.
Vitatalks 1 year ago
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BlackVoicesOnFilm 1 year ago
@BlackVoicesOnFilm IP6 (supplement) is phytic acid, it has benefits as an antioxidant. Phytates in foods do us more harm than good, because they bind to essential minerals. Most people are already so low in minerals like zinc, magnesium and iron etc, phytate just makes matters worse. I reckon IP6 supplements are best taken away from mineral rich foods
Vitatalks 1 year ago