t is the same for me, I prefered Meiya , in Alternative , Are we have the choice of a road where Meiya not die , or one road where she is alive and have a happy end with Takeru ?
I was never so pissed off at Takeru then I was during this scene - letting her suffer (to the point she was begging) just becuase he couldent work out his own shit~ :(
Think my only only real misgiving with Alternative was that he went back to being a immature douche when he got back to his world; NOTHING carried over from all that time - just irked me. (i get he would forget everything, and I wouldent want him to be emo - maybe jsut a TINY BIT more mature and thoughtful in his oringal world)
BETA are aliens. They are genetically engineered by the "Creator" (Which is another alien race) for mining purposes. The BETA can also genetically engineer new species of BETA to counter any environments (Ex. Laser Class was made to counter a jets and air superiority). The creators just let the BETA spread like wildfire.
Kasumi is a biologically engineered Esper, part of Alternative 3 (I might have 4, I forgot) which was to send a bunch of Espers in TSF
@gbatemper123 and have the Espers read the mind of the BETAand try to convince them to stop attacking us.They found out the BETA do not view carbon based life forms as humans, because they were biologically programmed to by the "Creator".This is because the creator is a silicon based life form, and believes that carbon based sentient life form is not possible.
Kasumi is one of the last survivors, or maybe the only 1 who survived Alternative 3(or 4 i forgot), with Inia and Kriska
@Sephlock It's not much. Takeru just fails to convince the Superior that they are life forms, because Superior says that the creator (the people who made him) says only silicon based life forms are possible.
@cruzcartoon No its not, I get what you mean cuzz I was pissed too but if you look at it more maturely you would sooner realize that the main reason why all the main characters died was because the director wanted to give us all a Slice of Life feeling that no one is immune to Dying, not even if its the main characters themselves, and also having Takeru reunited with them all in the end when he was back in his old world was actually why they killed the girls off, because Takeru was there.
@Szermierz2525 Give Sumika a break, I'm more of a Meiya Fan Myself but since I played Alternative, I saw why Sumika really was much more better to be partnered with Takeru, and besides the poor girl was BETA raped and got turned into a Brain and even then she was still being Raped, The BETAS just gave the words Mind Break! a whole new meaning if you know what i mean, and also Sumika prove her love to be powerful enough to even Cross both Time and space, and be able to Replicate Takeru.
@ZeroRequiemGX Yea. She cross time and space. But how many pain it cost Takeru when he back to his world at mid game? She almost kill another Sumika, kill Morimo-chan, and do even more. She don`t think about others, but onyly about herself. Mayby she was raped by BETA, but id doesnt mean she can do what she want.
@Szermierz2525 Dude, ever seen Takeru go nuts like what he did to Kasumi when he couldn't handle the pain within him anymore, he escaped back to his original world If you ask me its only a natural thing to do considering how much he suffered, but try comparing that to Sumika's pain of Having to witness the Original Takeru being Eaten right in front of her while at the same time being rape, she was almost mind broken and yet her love for takeru still prevailed, try putting yourself in her place
@ZeroRequiemGX OMS! Don`t you understund that even if she suffer so much she can`t do what she want! If Takeru don`t want be in that world she shouldn`t force him, but she do that.
@Szermierz2525 Oh for the love of God, your the one who doesn't understand anything, what I'm simply trying to say is! no matter how much pain and suffering she has gotten, her love for takeru was never forgotten, yeah sure what she did was selfish and so i'd probably hate her to if t was done to me but still what do you expect! her mind was already BROKEN By the fucking BETAS!, it was a miracle that she was still able to hold on into that simple feeling no matter how broken her mind is
@ZeroRequiemGX Yea, and becouse of that she can do what she want. I have question:
If Takeru said she want be with Meiya, and Sumika destroy the world, its okay for you becouse BETA raped her? YEA! Becouse she can do want she want becouse of that! Even in life when girl was raped she can`t force someone to something. But you think Sumika is special becouse she suffer soooooo much. yea. She suffer verry much, but she CAN`T do what she do. Understund that.
@Szermierz2525 Dude, there are 2 main types of love, first is the good love 2nd is the bad love, and what your saying is the bad love, kinda like what they to School Days, now that my friend is Whack!, but Sumika in the End apologized to Takeru remember, she was broken and was not thinking right because of the shock but in the end when she finally regained her true memories didn't she wanted to apologize to everyone, she also fixed eveything as well, she did not wish for anything bad to happen.
@Szermierz2525 She was just another maiden in love, I'm not really into Sumika cause I like Ayamine and Meiya more, but because of what she did in Alternative I respect her now more than i did when she was still in extra
@ZeroRequiemGX You don`t understund at all... She was just another maiden in love? And what? She can do whenever she want? If I love some girl, and she dont love me, can I force her to stay by my side? I CAN`T!!! You known why? Becouse this is wrong! In Extra Sumika is even nice character, but in Alternative she is just stupid bitch, which don`t known what is wrong, and what is good.
@Szermierz2525 Dude your the one who does not understand, have you actually played the dam game!?, in the alternative world both Takeru and Sumika had a much closer relationship because Meiya and the others was not currently present, because they where all daughters of high class people, in addition Sumika was rejecting takeru during the yokohama arc because she loves him and does not want to hurt him anymore, as stated when she threaten him to get demoted by Yuuko, and then she cried a lot.
@Szermierz2525 And also nobody is Dam perfect!, everyone has flaws!, even Meiya and the others are, so don't just start saying stupid bitch cause she did all that out of pure love, even Takeru himself acknowledged that fact when Sumika finally regained her memories of the past!, and as i stated before try putting yourself in her shoes god dammit!, How would you feel if your where in her position while i'm on takeru's, what would you do by then if you did the same thing huh?!!!
@ZeroRequiemGX OMS... I just give up... Onyly Sumika use force to be with Takeru. I write you what I think about that. It`s doesn`t matter why she do that. She just can`t do what she wan`t. Onyly she do things like this. But you don`t understund that (I don`t known why). I just give up, becouse it doesn`t have any sense...
@Szermierz2525 I should have asked that Dam question right from the start, Oh well, You don't understand me and I don't Understand you, I'm not saying I'm 100% right and I'm not saying you 100% wrong, because after all everyone has the right to choose what they want believe, So as long as you respect my opinion then I shall do the same, (Me: 1 , You: 0) Sorry couldn't resist, I just like arguing that's all, to bad I couldn't say OBJECTION!
@Szermierz2525 I totally agree with you bro!! Just because she's in love it doesn't mean she can do whatever she want!! To force someone to love her and causing pain to others... what a real bitch.
@mzxa9988 Wtf? I am doubting whether you played the game or not if you think like that.
After all, ALTERNATIVE is SUMIKA'S ROUTE that was originally supposed to be in UNLIMITED.
It was inevitable that Takeru would choose Sumika regardless.
Sumika never forced Takeru to love her. If she did, what about all those routes in UNLIMITED that comes back as flash-backs in Alternative? It WAS PURE LUCK AND CHANCE, that this time Takeru fell in love with Sumika/found out she existed.
@gbatemper123 True, Great Game except for Sumika's memories ugh and marimo other then that It was amazing i know those added dramatic effect? Still wish muv-luv altered fable and chronicles were translated. I'd like kasumi;s route no matter what and little comets doujin looks awesome.
@xLastToHearYourDeadx Lol, Fabled is like medicine to relieve your trauma from Alternative. Chronicles is good, I like TDA and the story. The chemistry is pretty good too.
@gbatemper123 Its gotta be weird feeling sad when takeru meets everyone again. TDA is like a side story right? also hows the mini-game get raped by beta?
@gbatemper123 I sooo wanna play it even if i cant understand japanese but i dont wanna download altered fable just for it T_T id spoil the cg without knowing any story.
I played Unlimited and Alternative and both of them were totally emotional. Takeru was awesome in both of them even when the whole world throws all the crap at him he still finds a way to get through. Meiya, Class Rep and Marimo were my 3 fav characters in that order. I think i'll make a fanfic about this story in fanfiction(dot)net. On a personal note, i also love all the girls in Isumi's Valkyrie Company. Kami! Why!? Why did they have to die!? Waaaaa!
t is the same for me, I prefered Meiya , in Alternative , Are we have the choice of a road where Meiya not die , or one road where she is alive and have a happy end with Takeru ?
thank you , it's really a problem for me
chaos94600 4 days ago
I was never so pissed off at Takeru then I was during this scene - letting her suffer (to the point she was begging) just becuase he couldent work out his own shit~ :(
Think my only only real misgiving with Alternative was that he went back to being a immature douche when he got back to his world; NOTHING carried over from all that time - just irked me. (i get he would forget everything, and I wouldent want him to be emo - maybe jsut a TINY BIT more mature and thoughtful in his oringal world)
Rubytyr 2 weeks ago
I wonder why the S-11 do not activate by the plasma impact......
tons741 1 month ago
Aw man... MIki...
capster111 1 month ago
;_____________;
Kupow 2 months ago 10
they use human brains to make Beta soldiers ?
Kasumi was originally a human ?
dougarr 2 months ago
@dougarr They are using everything carbon-based in Earth to make BETAs, including humans.
Kasumi is perfectly human, she just have psychic powers.
escopeteroce 1 month ago
what are Beta ? Beta are not aliens ? coup de theathre ?!?!??! and who is Kasumi ?!!? i got some lack of lacks in the plot story !
i wanna know everything !
dougarr 2 months ago
@dougarr Okay. I'll explain.
BETA are aliens. They are genetically engineered by the "Creator" (Which is another alien race) for mining purposes. The BETA can also genetically engineer new species of BETA to counter any environments (Ex. Laser Class was made to counter a jets and air superiority). The creators just let the BETA spread like wildfire.
Kasumi is a biologically engineered Esper, part of Alternative 3 (I might have 4, I forgot) which was to send a bunch of Espers in TSF
gbatemper123 2 months ago
@gbatemper123 and have the Espers read the mind of the BETAand try to convince them to stop attacking us.They found out the BETA do not view carbon based life forms as humans, because they were biologically programmed to by the "Creator".This is because the creator is a silicon based life form, and believes that carbon based sentient life form is not possible.
Kasumi is one of the last survivors, or maybe the only 1 who survived Alternative 3(or 4 i forgot), with Inia and Kriska
gbatemper123 2 months ago
@gbatemper123 You should really read Alternative, it's translated. It ties all the plot holes.
gbatemper123 2 months ago
Wait, I just realized. How the fuck is this allowed on youtube?
gbatemper123 3 months ago
Could you put up the whole conversation with the Superior?
Sephlock 4 months ago
@Sephlock It's not much. Takeru just fails to convince the Superior that they are life forms, because Superior says that the creator (the people who made him) says only silicon based life forms are possible.
gbatemper123 4 months ago
I love Takemikaduchi.
akamatani 5 months ago
Why did Meiya they schould not have made this once if meiya dies this is so stupid
cruzcartoon 5 months ago
@cruzcartoon No its not, I get what you mean cuzz I was pissed too but if you look at it more maturely you would sooner realize that the main reason why all the main characters died was because the director wanted to give us all a Slice of Life feeling that no one is immune to Dying, not even if its the main characters themselves, and also having Takeru reunited with them all in the end when he was back in his old world was actually why they killed the girls off, because Takeru was there.
ZeroRequiemGX 4 months ago
WHY!!! WHY!!! WHY!!! WHY MEIYA MUST DIE!!! Sumika should die, but not Meiya!!!
Szermierz2525 5 months ago
@Szermierz2525 i dont care who died i would have been happy only if meiya lived
cruzcartoon 5 months ago
@cruzcartoon
Yes, but I hate Sumika, then I think she should die in pain(mayby next beta rape(but this time to death)?).
Szermierz2525 5 months ago
@Szermierz2525 how did she even get into this one also who was beta rape?
cruzcartoon 5 months ago
@cruzcartoon
Sumika was raped by BETA. Thats why she was that brain. I said that I hate Sumika and she should die in pain, then mayby next more cruel BETA rape?
Meiya should live with Takeru very long, and very happy.
Szermierz2525 5 months ago
@cruzcartoon Even if its Takeru?
ZeroRequiemGX 4 months ago
@Szermierz2525 Give Sumika a break, I'm more of a Meiya Fan Myself but since I played Alternative, I saw why Sumika really was much more better to be partnered with Takeru, and besides the poor girl was BETA raped and got turned into a Brain and even then she was still being Raped, The BETAS just gave the words Mind Break! a whole new meaning if you know what i mean, and also Sumika prove her love to be powerful enough to even Cross both Time and space, and be able to Replicate Takeru.
ZeroRequiemGX 4 months ago
@ZeroRequiemGX Yea. She cross time and space. But how many pain it cost Takeru when he back to his world at mid game? She almost kill another Sumika, kill Morimo-chan, and do even more. She don`t think about others, but onyly about herself. Mayby she was raped by BETA, but id doesnt mean she can do what she want.
Szermierz2525 4 months ago
@Szermierz2525 Dude, ever seen Takeru go nuts like what he did to Kasumi when he couldn't handle the pain within him anymore, he escaped back to his original world If you ask me its only a natural thing to do considering how much he suffered, but try comparing that to Sumika's pain of Having to witness the Original Takeru being Eaten right in front of her while at the same time being rape, she was almost mind broken and yet her love for takeru still prevailed, try putting yourself in her place
ZeroRequiemGX 4 months ago
@ZeroRequiemGX OMS! Don`t you understund that even if she suffer so much she can`t do what she want! If Takeru don`t want be in that world she shouldn`t force him, but she do that.
Szermierz2525 4 months ago
@Szermierz2525 Oh for the love of God, your the one who doesn't understand anything, what I'm simply trying to say is! no matter how much pain and suffering she has gotten, her love for takeru was never forgotten, yeah sure what she did was selfish and so i'd probably hate her to if t was done to me but still what do you expect! her mind was already BROKEN By the fucking BETAS!, it was a miracle that she was still able to hold on into that simple feeling no matter how broken her mind is
ZeroRequiemGX 4 months ago
@ZeroRequiemGX Yea, and becouse of that she can do what she want. I have question:
If Takeru said she want be with Meiya, and Sumika destroy the world, its okay for you becouse BETA raped her? YEA! Becouse she can do want she want becouse of that! Even in life when girl was raped she can`t force someone to something. But you think Sumika is special becouse she suffer soooooo much. yea. She suffer verry much, but she CAN`T do what she do. Understund that.
Szermierz2525 4 months ago
@Szermierz2525 Dude, there are 2 main types of love, first is the good love 2nd is the bad love, and what your saying is the bad love, kinda like what they to School Days, now that my friend is Whack!, but Sumika in the End apologized to Takeru remember, she was broken and was not thinking right because of the shock but in the end when she finally regained her true memories didn't she wanted to apologize to everyone, she also fixed eveything as well, she did not wish for anything bad to happen.
ZeroRequiemGX 4 months ago
@Szermierz2525 She was just another maiden in love, I'm not really into Sumika cause I like Ayamine and Meiya more, but because of what she did in Alternative I respect her now more than i did when she was still in extra
ZeroRequiemGX 4 months ago
@ZeroRequiemGX You don`t understund at all... She was just another maiden in love? And what? She can do whenever she want? If I love some girl, and she dont love me, can I force her to stay by my side? I CAN`T!!! You known why? Becouse this is wrong! In Extra Sumika is even nice character, but in Alternative she is just stupid bitch, which don`t known what is wrong, and what is good.
Szermierz2525 4 months ago
@Szermierz2525 Dude your the one who does not understand, have you actually played the dam game!?, in the alternative world both Takeru and Sumika had a much closer relationship because Meiya and the others was not currently present, because they where all daughters of high class people, in addition Sumika was rejecting takeru during the yokohama arc because she loves him and does not want to hurt him anymore, as stated when she threaten him to get demoted by Yuuko, and then she cried a lot.
ZeroRequiemGX 4 months ago
@Szermierz2525 And also nobody is Dam perfect!, everyone has flaws!, even Meiya and the others are, so don't just start saying stupid bitch cause she did all that out of pure love, even Takeru himself acknowledged that fact when Sumika finally regained her memories of the past!, and as i stated before try putting yourself in her shoes god dammit!, How would you feel if your where in her position while i'm on takeru's, what would you do by then if you did the same thing huh?!!!
ZeroRequiemGX 4 months ago
@ZeroRequiemGX OMS... I just give up... Onyly Sumika use force to be with Takeru. I write you what I think about that. It`s doesn`t matter why she do that. She just can`t do what she wan`t. Onyly she do things like this. But you don`t understund that (I don`t known why). I just give up, becouse it doesn`t have any sense...
Szermierz2525 4 months ago
@Szermierz2525 I should have asked that Dam question right from the start, Oh well, You don't understand me and I don't Understand you, I'm not saying I'm 100% right and I'm not saying you 100% wrong, because after all everyone has the right to choose what they want believe, So as long as you respect my opinion then I shall do the same, (Me: 1 , You: 0) Sorry couldn't resist, I just like arguing that's all, to bad I couldn't say OBJECTION!
ZeroRequiemGX 4 months ago
@Szermierz2525 I totally agree with you bro!! Just because she's in love it doesn't mean she can do whatever she want!! To force someone to love her and causing pain to others... what a real bitch.
mzxa9988 4 months ago
@mzxa9988 Wtf? I am doubting whether you played the game or not if you think like that.
After all, ALTERNATIVE is SUMIKA'S ROUTE that was originally supposed to be in UNLIMITED.
It was inevitable that Takeru would choose Sumika regardless.
Sumika never forced Takeru to love her. If she did, what about all those routes in UNLIMITED that comes back as flash-backs in Alternative? It WAS PURE LUCK AND CHANCE, that this time Takeru fell in love with Sumika/found out she existed.
gbatemper123 4 months ago
@gbatemper123 No man Sumika reveresed the flow everytime takeru didnt fall for her. Im not saying its her fault but..
xLastToHearYourDeadx 1 month ago
@xLastToHearYourDeadx She did it unconsciously, so you can't really blame her.
gbatemper123 1 month ago
@gbatemper123 True, Great Game except for Sumika's memories ugh and marimo other then that It was amazing i know those added dramatic effect? Still wish muv-luv altered fable and chronicles were translated. I'd like kasumi;s route no matter what and little comets doujin looks awesome.
xLastToHearYourDeadx 1 month ago
@xLastToHearYourDeadx Lol, Fabled is like medicine to relieve your trauma from Alternative. Chronicles is good, I like TDA and the story. The chemistry is pretty good too.
gbatemper123 1 month ago
@gbatemper123 Its gotta be weird feeling sad when takeru meets everyone again. TDA is like a side story right? also hows the mini-game get raped by beta?
xLastToHearYourDeadx 1 month ago
@xLastToHearYourDeadx TDA is the side story THE DAY AFTER. It's about Marimo's new group she commands, after Muv-Luv unlimited.
gbatemper123 1 month ago
@xLastToHearYourDeadx Oh, and the minigame is way too hard for me.
gbatemper123 1 month ago
@gbatemper123 I sooo wanna play it even if i cant understand japanese but i dont wanna download altered fable just for it T_T id spoil the cg without knowing any story.
xLastToHearYourDeadx 4 weeks ago
Age....you are all devils for making this!!!
Cornholio8787 5 months ago
>speech on hope and hopelessness.
>lasts at least 7 minutes.
>How have the BETA not broken through yet?
Seriously, this game makes no sense sometimes.
...Not to mention it's fucking sadistic.
benkai343434 6 months ago
@benkai343434 The Superior BETA didn't want to bother them cause he was not Rude enough to interrupt a good speech, LOL!
ZeroRequiemGX 4 months ago
And you know whats worse, she asks you not to forget her...and then b/c of the ending, you forget her...
MANLY TEARS...I cried a lot of them....WHYYYY
DID ALL OF THEM HAVE TO DIE...AGE you F**ks
autogun290 6 months ago
Altered Fable is for those of you that didn't want them to die. Cause they got resurrected, all of them, for that piece of the story.
Cruelty1633 7 months ago
I played Unlimited and Alternative and both of them were totally emotional. Takeru was awesome in both of them even when the whole world throws all the crap at him he still finds a way to get through. Meiya, Class Rep and Marimo were my 3 fav characters in that order. I think i'll make a fanfic about this story in fanfiction(dot)net. On a personal note, i also love all the girls in Isumi's Valkyrie Company. Kami! Why!? Why did they have to die!? Waaaaa!
thaipan123 7 months ago
Meiya was my favourite character so this scene was pretty fucking devastating
BleakCabaler 7 months ago
I really wanted to see Souichiro Hoshi get to playing Takeru in all of his emotions... :S
dropthepin 8 months ago
The Superior BETA Is A Dick!
And I Mean Its A Giant Alien DICK!
WTF! were the creators thinking when they made the BETAS!
ZeroRequiemGX 8 months ago
When you play this you'll shit bricks
Tetrahedron77 9 months ago