wow, what can I say? Conservatives get PWNED when they actually have to debate a liberal, instead of using a straw man like StevenCrowder (who dresses up as the people he wishes he had the balls to debate)
Cenk, I love you, but you missed some good points. Both Eric Rudolph and Tim McVeigh had ties to the Christian Identity movement. The Lords Resistance Army, which Obama has declared as a terrorist group have killed tens of thousands in the aim of developing a Christian theocracy. And there are other Christian terrorists in the world.
The actions &/or color of a man should not effect everyone opinion of his peers. Everyone who hates another race, country, etc, etc, fails to see that we are all the same. We are all capable of grate love and compassion and grate hate and destruction, Its not bound by what we look like nor where we live or even what we think.
"If the world decides in 200 years that I was the worst person who ever lived, it won't matter because I'll be dead. What I'm looking at is the present and in the present,"
@angel102ify No, that doesn't prove your point in any way, shape, or form. If I do something incredibly evil and the world decides in 200 years' time that I was the worst person to ever live, it won't matter to me because I'll be dead. That won't change the fact that the world would be justified in their opinion of me and that I was, in fact, an evil person.
Notice Cenk's absurd tu quoque in referring to "extremists" of various religions. What major world religion commands its devout to enslave or slaughter all who refuse the "invitation" to convert? Which one murders, rapes, and enslaves unbelievers regularly around the world?
Only Islam.
And Cenk's either a liar or incredibly ignorant, for Emerson is an expert on jihad.
"Allah’s Apostle said, '. . . I have been made victorious with terror . . .'" (Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220).
@Amillennialist You want another religion that tells you to kill all members of another religion? Want one that tells you to wipe out an entire town if only 1 person in that town believes in another god? Want one that tells you that if you are the daughter of a priest, and you have sex, then you have shamed your father and must be put to death? Well it may surprise you that the christian bible tells you to do that.
@Amillennialist Tu quoque is pretty much the only defense Muslims have.
"Islam is violent religion."
"Oh yeah, well, Christian armies did some violent stuff to Muslims 1,000 years ago!!!"
Of course, this ignores the fact that the Muslims have been violent for their entire 1400-year existence and the fact that two wrongs don't make a right.
@angel102ify No, they don't. This discussion is about Islam, not Christianity. How absurd would I sound if I were defending Christianity against various accusations by saying "Oh yeah? Well, the Druids suck!"? That's basically what Cenk is doing here in trying to defend Islam. Even if everything he said was true, even if Christianity were just violent as Islam, it wouldn't somehow negate the inherent violence of Islam. BTW, since you mentioned the Crusades...when was the Battle of Tours fought?
@battleax86 The inherant violence of islam? you realise the hypocrisy in that statement dont you? there is extreme elements in almost EVERY religion, i just hope one day they realise christianity nd islam are the same in this respect, the only difference is we are conditioned not to trust muslims so we see all the evil and turn a blind eye to the parts of chritianity that are the same. oh and it was 792 according to a quick google search.
@angel102ify There is no hypocrisy in that statement. There might be if I was trying to defend some other religion as not being violent...but I'm not. What you're employing here is the classic "tu quoque" logical fallacy. Basically, you're saying "yeah, they're fucked up, but it's OK because a bunch of other people are fucked up too." No, it's not OK. It's not OK for a religion to accept those who intentionally blow up women and children in the name of their god.
@battleax86 at what point did i say it was ok to blow people up? and no im not saying its ok because other people did it, what i am saying is that we look at these events with our modern sensibilities, in 200 years from now they will look back at what we do today and they will most likely have differant views to what we consider normal on things ranging from gun ownership, gays in the military, civil rights and a million other subjects
What do you do with those whose god commands them to "kill the pagans wherever you find them" (Qur'an 9:5)? What do you do with those who believe that the genocidal pedophile Muhammad was Allah's "beautiful pattern of conduct" for those who want to please it, and therefore the "Ideal Man" whose example should be imitated?
The Ft. Hood jihadist was preaching and practicing Islam the way Muhammad intended. Cenk calls that "insane." Allah will not be pleased.
@battleax86 hey im also curious, how was your first experience with a priest? did it hurt when he touched you in your private places or did you enjoy it?
@battleax86 as soon as you answer mine, dont worry you can tell me what that mean old nasty priest did to you, how he violated your innocence and made you rub canola oil on his balls. there there dear there is help out there
@CiMBoMTurkiye93 I already answered your question. I'm not Catholic and have no experience with priests...but apparently we've learned that you like thinking about young boys rubbing canola oil on an old man's balls. Seeing how Mohammed was a pedophile, maybe it's normal for Muslims to be sick in the head.
@battleax86 hey now no need to be mean, i was just trying to help a victim of molestation out. its alright if he made you lick the canola oil from his balls, you can tell me what that nasty old priest done to you. and after you tell me the story about you and your priest you can then tell me of how your drunk redneck dad was touching you in your private parts aswell, all i want to do is help you man and for me to do that you need to open up to me just like you opened your asshole to your dad
@CiMBoMTurkiye93 Sounds to me like you're just trying to project your gay fantasies on others...but, seeing as how your prophet was a pedophile, I guess sick sexual fantasies are normal for Muslims.
@CiMBoMTurkiye93 There you go, still projecting your sick fantasies on others. Do you get some sort of disability payment for being so fucked in the head?
@battleax86 wow.... and you think it as any differant in europe? Petronius (c. 27–c. 66), a Roman writer, recorded the rape of a seven-year-old girl witnessed by a line of clapping women. And dont even get me started on catholic priests to this day
@angel102ify Holy hell, man, do you go around robbing banks and try to justify it because someone else robbed a bank in China? If what Petronius wrote is true, then it's every bit as fucked up as Mohammed having sex with a 9-year-old girl...and it doesn't make Mohammed any less of a pedophile. The difference between him and Catholic priests is that when Catholic priests are caught, their reputations are ruined. Muslims still think the pedophile Mohammed was a holy man.
@battleax86 what does robbing a bank in china have to do with anything?now your just talking nonsense because you cant back up your arguement,and not long ago it as legal in america to have slaves, times change my friend, and the sooner you realise that the better because you have some serious issues.
@angel102ify I used robbing a bank in China as an example. You wouldn't try to justify robbing a bank in England because someone else did it in China, so why are you trying to justify someone in Arabia being a pedophile because someone in Italy was a pedophile? And yes, slavery used to be legal in America, but that doesn't help your argument any because we don't go around trying to justify it based on what year it was. We recognize it was wrong. Muslims can't seem to do that with Mohammed.
Notice that Cenk deflects attention from Islam by focusing on McVeigh, and that dishonestly, for "right-wing conservatives" do not follow a set of beliefs requiring them to slaughter innocents. Neither can any "Christian" point to Christ's words and deeds to justify murder.
On the other hand, Islam kills. This is what makes every Muslim a potential threat, and what Cenk doesn't want you to know:
@Amillennialist If Christ is God, then he is responsible for the commandments in the Old Testament as well. The verses that can be used to justify killing in the Old Testament, except you agrees that he is NOT God.
@pretorious700 He doesnt do it to look intelligent. Its just that his guest is a total moron. He doesnt just have debates with these kinds of people. listen to other interviews. Alot of intelligent people come on and debate. So stop trying to sound so smart by saying remedial therapy. its not working. we all know u are an idiot.
Conflating groups e.g. terrorist and Muslim and yet refusing to acknowledge that other groups/religions etc. ALSO have the potential to grow terrorists.
And her attempts to backtrack. First, it's "only in America" then she jumps to "worldwide" yet keeps the number 7 million.
Cenk is retarded. He just voided his whole argument when he said "if theres clear warning signs then they shouldn't be ignored, thats outrageous" Well, Cenk, there were clear warning signs. You're an idiot. I believe that you too are a stealth jihadist, Cenk. Anyone who sympathizes with Jihadists are to be watched. Were watching you, Cenk. We're keeping a close eye on you.
@khaaaled2007 You've provided nothing proving that what I said was a dumb comment. All you can say is that it was dumb and that im ignorant. Is that how you debate where you're from? All your people can do is make personal attacks when you can't think of anything good to say. I have pointed out the obvious and for you to ignore that is a good indication that you sympathize with Cenk and also sympathize with those who practice radical forms of islam. Did i call Cenk an idiot? Yes, I did.
@khaaaled2007 Cenk deserved to be called an idiot because he voided his whole argument. I had reason to call im an idiot. But you have failed to provide reason in calling me dumb and ignorant.
@khaaaled2007 Is that it? I gave you a factual reason as to why I think Cenk is an idiot. And thats what you come back with? Your reason isn't a factual one, its an opinion. Now you're starting to look like the dumb and ignorant one. lol You're seeming more and more like a troll. The women on the phone had the right idea, she just didn't have the balls to back herself up. And thats exactly why Cenk interviewed her. He knew she'd be weak. Why doesn't Cenk interview someone like Robert Spencer?
@mikestermad just because a person can yell louder than the person asking the question doesn't make them right? what are we in the third grade? things are real just because we believe them? yeah right man, lucky for us the world has advanced on the backs of people who are willing to adapt their ideas based on the information found everyday
@khaaaled2007 or why not interview David Horowitz? He won't interview anyone like them because he'd be demolished and made to look like a fool. So go ahead Cenk. Interview someone who will have the confidence to debate and destroy you based on facts.
Cenk is an idiot. Tim McVeigh was an agnostic who didn't do what he did in the name of religion. The name of people killed in the name of Christianity (I'm not talking about Colonialism) doesn't come close to Islam. 270 million non-muslims were killed in the name of Islam.
@mthakore Why are you stupid? His point wasn't whether McViegh was a Christian or not..the point is that there has been prolific acts of terrorism and war perpetrated by members who identify with US conservatism...acts that are routinely whitewashed by people like Joy as being anything else other than needless war mongering and terrorism...ie..that in the conservative vernacular terrorist = muslim brown person. Again...why are you stupid?
@popasmuerf Cenk said "Is there anything about him being Muslim that makes this any different?" Hey popasmurf keep ignoring what's happening to Coptics in Egypt, Hindus in Pakistan, Sikhs in India, Buddhists in Thailand, and Jews in Israel. Keep ignoring the 270 million who died in the name of Islam.
You said "war perpetrated by members who identify with US conservatism"
Timothy McVeigh did not identify with Christian Conservatism but with a Neo Nazi book, and a hatred of the US government.
Love how much she's complaining about political correctness yet spends 10 minutes dancing around admitting that she wants muslims to be discriminated against.
Joy tiz wow she must be the long lost cousin of Sarah Palin My god These Rednecks are beyond stupid I have never seen a more stupid,dumb retarded being.
LMAO Part of the "anti-government movement" WTF. Wow thats not general or anything...he is arguing like a 5 year old and making up shit. First off wtf is the "anti-government movement" lets get a little more specific, second where is the evidence that he was part of this unspecified "anti-government movement, because i've never heard of it until the CENK said it....lets argue with some logic here kid.
IT WAS WISH OF SATAN TO TRANSFORM HUMAN AS A PORNO BEING WHO WILL WORSHIPS COW, RAT, SUN & MOON & HUMAN JESUS (PBUH). SUCH BELIEVERS NEVER BOTHER TO TEST THAT IF THEIR FAITH IS ACTUALLY TRUE. SUCH WEEK BELIEVES ARE CREATING ATHEIST, GAY & A NEW PORNO BEING. GOD HAS CREATED *5 (LIGHTS, SPACE, EARTH, AIR, WATER) * 5 (SIGHT, HEARING, TOUCH, SMELL, TASTE) SO WORSHIP HIM AT LIST 5 TIMES. ONLY GOD CAN FORGIVE OUR SIN, NOT JESUS NOR MOHAMMAD (PBUT). WE WILL BE ACCOUNTABLE TO GOD FOR OUR FAKE BELIEVES.
IT IS UNSCIENTIFIC & FUNNY TO BELIEVE ALMIGHTY GOD CREATOR OF UNIVERSE NEEDS A PHYSICAL PRESENT WITH HUMAN TO PROVE HIS EXISTENCE. ACCORDING TO ISLAM ONLY KNOWLEDGE OF ALLAH PRESENT IN THE UNIVERSE SO HIS KNOWLEDGE IS ENOUGH TO PROVE HIS EXISTENCE. HUMAN HAVE TO USE THEIR KNOWLEDGE TO FIND GOD & THEY HAVE TO BELIEVE HIM WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE. IT’S A FAIR GAME BETWEEN GOD & SATAN. IT WAS THE WISH OF ALLAH TO CREATE A BEING (HUMAN) DIFFERENT THEN ANGEL & THEY WILL WORSHIP HIM WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE.
IF GOD SHOWS human evidence of his existence then human too will start to behave like an angel. And IT WAS a wish of ALMIGHTY ALLAH not to take human in a paradise before they experiment an imperfect world. YOU WILL NOT UNDERSTAND MUSLIM. WE ARE HAPPY WITH OUR BELIEVE. ACCORDING TO ISLAM THE LAST PERSON COMING OUT OF HELL WILL GET A PARADISE EQUAL TO 10 EARTH & WE BELIEVE IT IS POSSIBLE & WE BELIEVE ONLY KNOWLEDGE OF GOD PRESENT WITH US SO GOD NEVER NEEDS HUMAN WOMB TO PROVE HIS EXISTENCE.
Holy shit - this has got to be the most circles someone has ever run around their own damned conversation that I have ever encountered in my life. She is willfully dense. She has no point, she just likes to hear herself argue. What a fuck wit.
She kind of did it in a bonehead way, but here's what she is saying. In the Army we go to these things called EO, equal oppurtinity, classes says you cannot discrimnate based race, ethnicity, gender,religion and one other can't remember. She's saying that people might feel afraid that if you witness some form of extremism or a red flag that involves a person's religion and you report it that then you could be showing a form of discrimnation. In the Army that can get you into a lot of trouble.
As a muslim, i'm so offended by this woman. Islam is about peace & faith, yes we do have brothers who have gone to the evil path but they don't represent us. The world will be a better place if 'Joy Tizm' (the way of thinking) does not exist.
she just wouldnt commit to any one solid point, aye... pinning this chica down to an actual factual opinion is like pulling teeth... she just keeps going on and one with the one liner same ol same ol right wing talking points that arent talking points... go figure... change change change, but change what...
Unfortunately, this how many Americans view this situation. Just assuming that all Muslims are in some way associated with extremists and we should be concerned. Just BULLSHIT!!! Yeah, just looked what happened in Tucson.
I love how all these Conservatives want to sweep Bush under the rug now and claim he was never one of their's while all he have to do is look up what they said about him while he was President.
this chick has neither the factual information, or the intellectual capacity to even attemp to argue with someoen like Cenk. Give up (to put it bluntly) you stupid bitch.
"Hand off the muslim policy in miltary??" where did she get that from? I always get "randomly" chosen at the airports for just being a brown guy at security check points....not that I mind.... and I am not even a muslim
WOW...that bitch is just dumb. You could ask all 1-2billion Muslims in the world.."hey how many of you want to...are going to...or have thought about killing an American" 2000 of them could say "yeea I am/have"..and she would be like " SEE I TOLD YOU! MUSLIMS KILL PEOPLE! ..but then you can show her that in THIS COUNTRY Christianily is one of the MAIN causes of past wars and killings she would just laugh and say "its not the same"...come on dude....smh
As soon as this IDIOTIC woman claimed that the Muslim population in the world is closer to 7 million, I was done even taking her remotely seriously. And she tells Cenk to do some "Googling" of the baseless claim that a lot of mosques are run by Saudis? Why don't you do some "Googling" yourself lady... because than you would know that the Muslim population in the world is a massive 1,571,198,000. Wow, conservatives are so ignorant... it's unbelievable how they manage to survive in this country.
Wow. What hurts is that people like her are everywhere. No real concrete facts to support their prejudices. Listening to her makes me physically ill. Muslims are the last religion its okay to discriminate against publicly and get away with it as free speech. Can you imagine the uproar if she was talking about screening Jews in the military? Those men are serving their country. It just creates resentment when you treat them like criminals just because of what they believe. Joy Tiz- you are low.
i cant believe how that bitch has no idea about numbers. 1% of muslims are terrorist. 7 million muslims in the world? how can u take her seriously?????
@markusasmithi Take out that bomb vest from your closet. Go to your nearest mosque, blow yourself up and take out a few more muslims while you are at it. You will be doing the world a huge favor.
@doom3lv I would have to say that Christianity is one of the worst religions. Heck, I think that religion in general is one of the worst things that was ever created.
One more thing, I'm reading the rest of the comments here and it's clear that Cenk is becoming his own worst enemy. He's basically a rant gone awry with his set of cherry picked facts.
@Lobato1987 It was hard for me not to and I was just listening. "7 million Muslims in the world" made me chuckle a bit. Then I realized that she was serious and I was about to cry from frustration.
I just watched 5 and a half minutes, but I have to comment: As an evil neocon, who supports Bush, I must say that sometimes when I listen to people on "my side", they are such hacks that I wonder if we can expell them from the movement. I certainly hope that you on the left feel the same about some of your people (and no, I'm not talking about Lieberman or Ron Silver, I'm talking about people who agree with you but are total hacks).
Ooops...sorry, as i keep forgetting we're not allowed to mention Bush. heh heh Except it 'sho is funny' how Book signings got moved up 3 months, and where the hell is that 'Motivational speaking tour' these days...in a van down by the river?
Forget 'largest debt in US history, and signing of TARP/bailouts, 13 month recession, and loss of 3 MILLION jobs in last 14 months.
BUT Sshhhh. we're not allowed to talk about it. heh heh FUCK YOU!
And now Repug Prez contender 'Newt' says 'No churches in Saudi Arabia, then no Mosques in USA'. Now, we base our freedoms, our bill of rights and constitution on Muslim countries? Way to go R's! NEWT/PALIN 2012
Iraq had all denominational churches on any give Sunday, until we decided Saddam was such a bad man, we had to blow 3 trillion dollars, start a Civil War, kill 100's of 1000's, bust up our military and economy. Bush was the one who gave free pass! To Bin ladin family on day of 9-11.
We have a simple little thing that works in military and many businesses. Its called the 'Chain of Command'. That didnt apply here, as in Abu Ghraib. Mcvey...didnt have idealology? Of course they killed him quickly to remove any such ideal, and witness or assistance! He's shutting down this moron...'oh no' not Bush again mantra? You righties cant use history then! No Bush! No history!
Bottom line, your superiors are also responsible for your actions.
@gunnerfan87 agreed, i would go nuts listening to unfairness and un justice and republican ideas as a job. listening to republicans all day......on fox news makes people stupid look at the tea party convention.
@doom3lv Oh no, Muslims! I heard that some of them are crazy and will blow themselves up! That must mean all of them are out to kill me! I better go and do some favors for MY god. Maybe if I kill some abortionists, when the Muslims kill me, then I'll go to heaven. Extremism of any kind is horrible. Being Christian doesn't exclude you from being a terrorist and being Muslim doesn't guarantee that you are going to terrorize anyone! I think that religion should be as private as social security.
Those soldiers died helping protect diversity and freedom. That’s why they join. The know risk is there. Yes, if we don’t protect our diversity, we will lose countless more lives in turn. She hinting to scrutinize military men more just for being Muslim “Stop telling people they’ll be in trouble if they mention the fact he was Muslim” “If he hears this guy is Muslim and giving lectures on…” Who cares about religion that isn’t important. He wants to kill soldiers=important part.
I don't think she was that bad.... Actually I think Cenk jumped to some conclusions.... He is having a Straw Man debate - making her into someone she has not said she was.
Is some of her reasoning wrong? As well as facts?? lol (7 million Muslims???) yes. But she seemed like a reasonable person.
wow, what can I say? Conservatives get PWNED when they actually have to debate a liberal, instead of using a straw man like StevenCrowder (who dresses up as the people he wishes he had the balls to debate)
MuslimGoku 2 days ago
this bitch is so stupid
mark74741 1 week ago
7 million? more like 1 billion, a little off there dont you think?
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bagofPLMZ 2 weeks ago
Cenk, I love you, but you missed some good points. Both Eric Rudolph and Tim McVeigh had ties to the Christian Identity movement. The Lords Resistance Army, which Obama has declared as a terrorist group have killed tens of thousands in the aim of developing a Christian theocracy. And there are other Christian terrorists in the world.
01andak 2 weeks ago
Bangladesh has 148,607,000 muslims! How ignorant is this chick? Thinking there are only 7 million muslims is LUDICROUS.
cardsforlife 3 weeks ago
the female is an idiot........
MrRasheed7 1 month ago
WOW SHE IS SOOOO NAIVE... needs to get some sense smacked in her
qwertj1 2 months ago
... ant they say racism doesn't exist in the U.S.
MrBigSkizz 2 months ago
The actions &/or color of a man should not effect everyone opinion of his peers. Everyone who hates another race, country, etc, etc, fails to see that we are all the same. We are all capable of grate love and compassion and grate hate and destruction, Its not bound by what we look like nor where we live or even what we think.
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angel102ify 4 months ago
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"If the world decides in 200 years that I was the worst person who ever lived, it won't matter because I'll be dead. What I'm looking at is the present and in the present,"
thank you for proving my point.
angel102ify 4 months ago
@angel102ify No, that doesn't prove your point in any way, shape, or form. If I do something incredibly evil and the world decides in 200 years' time that I was the worst person to ever live, it won't matter to me because I'll be dead. That won't change the fact that the world would be justified in their opinion of me and that I was, in fact, an evil person.
battleax86 4 months ago
This is the most funny video from the Young Turks about one of the most serious subjects I've ever seen.
Wessel88 4 months ago
It is so hard to argue with a retard because they never get when they're wrong.
RonieIslam8 5 months ago
she is the stupidest person on the planet.......
shootme243 5 months ago 2
Notice Cenk's absurd tu quoque in referring to "extremists" of various religions. What major world religion commands its devout to enslave or slaughter all who refuse the "invitation" to convert? Which one murders, rapes, and enslaves unbelievers regularly around the world?
Only Islam.
And Cenk's either a liar or incredibly ignorant, for Emerson is an expert on jihad.
"Allah’s Apostle said, '. . . I have been made victorious with terror . . .'" (Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220).
Amillennialist 5 months ago
@Amillennialist You want another religion that tells you to kill all members of another religion? Want one that tells you to wipe out an entire town if only 1 person in that town believes in another god? Want one that tells you that if you are the daughter of a priest, and you have sex, then you have shamed your father and must be put to death? Well it may surprise you that the christian bible tells you to do that.
rockman202 5 months ago
@Amillennialist Tu quoque is pretty much the only defense Muslims have.
"Islam is violent religion."
"Oh yeah, well, Christian armies did some violent stuff to Muslims 1,000 years ago!!!"
Of course, this ignores the fact that the Muslims have been violent for their entire 1400-year existence and the fact that two wrongs don't make a right.
battleax86 4 months ago
@battleax86 and Christianity isnt? the KKK, IRA, tim mcveigh, the crusades, the spanish inquisition mean anything to you?
angel102ify 4 months ago
@angel102ify No, they don't. This discussion is about Islam, not Christianity. How absurd would I sound if I were defending Christianity against various accusations by saying "Oh yeah? Well, the Druids suck!"? That's basically what Cenk is doing here in trying to defend Islam. Even if everything he said was true, even if Christianity were just violent as Islam, it wouldn't somehow negate the inherent violence of Islam. BTW, since you mentioned the Crusades...when was the Battle of Tours fought?
battleax86 4 months ago
@battleax86 The inherant violence of islam? you realise the hypocrisy in that statement dont you? there is extreme elements in almost EVERY religion, i just hope one day they realise christianity nd islam are the same in this respect, the only difference is we are conditioned not to trust muslims so we see all the evil and turn a blind eye to the parts of chritianity that are the same. oh and it was 792 according to a quick google search.
angel102ify 4 months ago
@angel102ify There is no hypocrisy in that statement. There might be if I was trying to defend some other religion as not being violent...but I'm not. What you're employing here is the classic "tu quoque" logical fallacy. Basically, you're saying "yeah, they're fucked up, but it's OK because a bunch of other people are fucked up too." No, it's not OK. It's not OK for a religion to accept those who intentionally blow up women and children in the name of their god.
battleax86 4 months ago
@battleax86 at what point did i say it was ok to blow people up? and no im not saying its ok because other people did it, what i am saying is that we look at these events with our modern sensibilities, in 200 years from now they will look back at what we do today and they will most likely have differant views to what we consider normal on things ranging from gun ownership, gays in the military, civil rights and a million other subjects
angel102ify 4 months ago
@battleax86 732AD even, had a slight tryping error ;p
angel102ify 4 months ago
@angel102ify I see...that was before the Crusades, wasn't it?
battleax86 4 months ago
What do you do with those whose god commands them to "kill the pagans wherever you find them" (Qur'an 9:5)? What do you do with those who believe that the genocidal pedophile Muhammad was Allah's "beautiful pattern of conduct" for those who want to please it, and therefore the "Ideal Man" whose example should be imitated?
The Ft. Hood jihadist was preaching and practicing Islam the way Muhammad intended. Cenk calls that "insane." Allah will not be pleased.
Amillennialist 5 months ago
@Amillennialist awwww you butthurt that cenk fucked up this blonde slut?
CiMBoMTurkiye93 4 months ago
@CiMBoMTurkiye93 Hey, just curious, what do you think about the fact that Mohammed fucked a 9-year-old when he was 54 years old?
battleax86 4 months ago
@battleax86 hey im also curious, how was your first experience with a priest? did it hurt when he touched you in your private places or did you enjoy it?
CiMBoMTurkiye93 4 months ago
@CiMBoMTurkiye93 I'm not Catholic, so I've had no experiences with a priest. You gonna answer my question now?
battleax86 4 months ago
@battleax86 as soon as you answer mine, dont worry you can tell me what that mean old nasty priest did to you, how he violated your innocence and made you rub canola oil on his balls. there there dear there is help out there
CiMBoMTurkiye93 4 months ago
@CiMBoMTurkiye93 I already answered your question. I'm not Catholic and have no experience with priests...but apparently we've learned that you like thinking about young boys rubbing canola oil on an old man's balls. Seeing how Mohammed was a pedophile, maybe it's normal for Muslims to be sick in the head.
battleax86 4 months ago
@battleax86 hey now no need to be mean, i was just trying to help a victim of molestation out. its alright if he made you lick the canola oil from his balls, you can tell me what that nasty old priest done to you. and after you tell me the story about you and your priest you can then tell me of how your drunk redneck dad was touching you in your private parts aswell, all i want to do is help you man and for me to do that you need to open up to me just like you opened your asshole to your dad
CiMBoMTurkiye93 4 months ago
@CiMBoMTurkiye93 Sounds to me like you're just trying to project your gay fantasies on others...but, seeing as how your prophet was a pedophile, I guess sick sexual fantasies are normal for Muslims.
battleax86 4 months ago
@battleax86 its ok sonny, we all know you had buttsecks with your priest nor get the fuck over it and suck your dads dick
CiMBoMTurkiye93 3 months ago
@CiMBoMTurkiye93 There you go, still projecting your sick fantasies on others. Do you get some sort of disability payment for being so fucked in the head?
battleax86 3 months ago
@battleax86 wow.... and you think it as any differant in europe? Petronius (c. 27–c. 66), a Roman writer, recorded the rape of a seven-year-old girl witnessed by a line of clapping women. And dont even get me started on catholic priests to this day
angel102ify 4 months ago
@angel102ify Holy hell, man, do you go around robbing banks and try to justify it because someone else robbed a bank in China? If what Petronius wrote is true, then it's every bit as fucked up as Mohammed having sex with a 9-year-old girl...and it doesn't make Mohammed any less of a pedophile. The difference between him and Catholic priests is that when Catholic priests are caught, their reputations are ruined. Muslims still think the pedophile Mohammed was a holy man.
battleax86 4 months ago
@battleax86 what does robbing a bank in china have to do with anything?now your just talking nonsense because you cant back up your arguement,and not long ago it as legal in america to have slaves, times change my friend, and the sooner you realise that the better because you have some serious issues.
angel102ify 4 months ago
@angel102ify I used robbing a bank in China as an example. You wouldn't try to justify robbing a bank in England because someone else did it in China, so why are you trying to justify someone in Arabia being a pedophile because someone in Italy was a pedophile? And yes, slavery used to be legal in America, but that doesn't help your argument any because we don't go around trying to justify it based on what year it was. We recognize it was wrong. Muslims can't seem to do that with Mohammed.
battleax86 4 months ago
Notice that Cenk deflects attention from Islam by focusing on McVeigh, and that dishonestly, for "right-wing conservatives" do not follow a set of beliefs requiring them to slaughter innocents. Neither can any "Christian" point to Christ's words and deeds to justify murder.
On the other hand, Islam kills. This is what makes every Muslim a potential threat, and what Cenk doesn't want you to know:
amillennialist.blogspot.com/2004/07/allah-and-his-false-prophet-command.html
Amillennialist 5 months ago
@Amillennialist If Christ is God, then he is responsible for the commandments in the Old Testament as well. The verses that can be used to justify killing in the Old Testament, except you agrees that he is NOT God.
webdawah 2 weeks ago
Argh. Shes an embarrassment to Conservatives.
DesBlackmore 5 months ago
@DesBlackmore conservatives are an embarrassment to conservatives
spaik007 5 months ago
cenk sure does know his christian cereal killers lol
jdmv15 5 months ago
joy tiz you ma'am are a moron
adeleke27 6 months ago
she said 7 million world wide how stupid is she then she said ill let you have it whatt ??
joy ur retarded
mouaidhomsi 6 months ago
Anyone who listens to this Cenk moron for content needs remedial therapy. He tries to look intelligent by booking guests like this-it ain't working.
pretorious700 6 months ago
@pretorious700 He doesnt do it to look intelligent. Its just that his guest is a total moron. He doesnt just have debates with these kinds of people. listen to other interviews. Alot of intelligent people come on and debate. So stop trying to sound so smart by saying remedial therapy. its not working. we all know u are an idiot.
lambofreak55 6 months ago
@pretorious700
Do you believe in keeping social security?
ThatBlackPanda 5 months ago
as soon as 2:50 hit I was instant /facepalm
diabeticphoenix 7 months ago
She doesn't know who the Tamil Tigers are? Silence at 20:40
Queram 7 months ago
She was almost Palinesque in her idiocy.
Conflating groups e.g. terrorist and Muslim and yet refusing to acknowledge that other groups/religions etc. ALSO have the potential to grow terrorists.
And her attempts to backtrack. First, it's "only in America" then she jumps to "worldwide" yet keeps the number 7 million.
Tiz, you utter fool!
1000Demons 7 months ago
09:30 She thinks there's 7 million Muslims? Omg what a moron!
RevanGabriel 8 months ago 13
"i'll give you that" haha from a position of such authority, she will give you that!
TheBigEase 8 months ago 10
Cenk is retarded. He just voided his whole argument when he said "if theres clear warning signs then they shouldn't be ignored, thats outrageous" Well, Cenk, there were clear warning signs. You're an idiot. I believe that you too are a stealth jihadist, Cenk. Anyone who sympathizes with Jihadists are to be watched. Were watching you, Cenk. We're keeping a close eye on you.
mikestermad 8 months ago
@mikestermad What a dumb comment!! "Sympathizes with Jihadists" 3 magic words fro Ignorance
khaaaled2007 8 months ago
@khaaaled2007 You've provided nothing proving that what I said was a dumb comment. All you can say is that it was dumb and that im ignorant. Is that how you debate where you're from? All your people can do is make personal attacks when you can't think of anything good to say. I have pointed out the obvious and for you to ignore that is a good indication that you sympathize with Cenk and also sympathize with those who practice radical forms of islam. Did i call Cenk an idiot? Yes, I did.
mikestermad 8 months ago
@mikestermad you are an idiot, Cenk is better than you OF COURSE!
zfafdf 6 months ago
@khaaaled2007 Cenk deserved to be called an idiot because he voided his whole argument. I had reason to call im an idiot. But you have failed to provide reason in calling me dumb and ignorant.
mikestermad 8 months ago
@mikestermad Your comment is my reason, you sounded like the women on the Phone with cenk
khaaaled2007 8 months ago
@khaaaled2007 Is that it? I gave you a factual reason as to why I think Cenk is an idiot. And thats what you come back with? Your reason isn't a factual one, its an opinion. Now you're starting to look like the dumb and ignorant one. lol You're seeming more and more like a troll. The women on the phone had the right idea, she just didn't have the balls to back herself up. And thats exactly why Cenk interviewed her. He knew she'd be weak. Why doesn't Cenk interview someone like Robert Spencer?
mikestermad 8 months ago
@mikestermad just because a person can yell louder than the person asking the question doesn't make them right? what are we in the third grade? things are real just because we believe them? yeah right man, lucky for us the world has advanced on the backs of people who are willing to adapt their ideas based on the information found everyday
holidae3 6 months ago
@khaaaled2007 or why not interview David Horowitz? He won't interview anyone like them because he'd be demolished and made to look like a fool. So go ahead Cenk. Interview someone who will have the confidence to debate and destroy you based on facts.
mikestermad 8 months ago
Tim Mc Veigh was a tool of the Hezbollah. Check the files, he was aided by islamists, he was just a tool.
GospodinMilan 8 months ago
Cenk is an idiot. Tim McVeigh was an agnostic who didn't do what he did in the name of religion. The name of people killed in the name of Christianity (I'm not talking about Colonialism) doesn't come close to Islam. 270 million non-muslims were killed in the name of Islam.
mthakore 8 months ago
@mthakore Why are you stupid? His point wasn't whether McViegh was a Christian or not..the point is that there has been prolific acts of terrorism and war perpetrated by members who identify with US conservatism...acts that are routinely whitewashed by people like Joy as being anything else other than needless war mongering and terrorism...ie..that in the conservative vernacular terrorist = muslim brown person. Again...why are you stupid?
popasmuerf 8 months ago
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mthakore 8 months ago
@popasmuerf Cenk said "Is there anything about him being Muslim that makes this any different?" Hey popasmurf keep ignoring what's happening to Coptics in Egypt, Hindus in Pakistan, Sikhs in India, Buddhists in Thailand, and Jews in Israel. Keep ignoring the 270 million who died in the name of Islam.
You said "war perpetrated by members who identify with US conservatism"
Timothy McVeigh did not identify with Christian Conservatism but with a Neo Nazi book, and a hatred of the US government.
mthakore 8 months ago
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lovemilitary1 9 months ago
bitch went in circles but nvr made a real argument, dunno how cenk didn't flip his shit.
mikael15totti10 9 months ago
7 million muslims in the world? what is she smoking?
matro1991 9 months ago
@matro1991
Please don't conflate smoking with being ignorant. I've never smoked anything and become detached from facts.
noellennon 9 months ago
@noellennon I am deeply sorry, I will send a letter of Apology to the Smoking community as soon as possible.
matro1991 9 months ago
@matro1991
Haha, I'm glad you took it well. All in good fun.
noellennon 9 months ago
conservatives really are stupid, this lady is a joke
mostecri 9 months ago
Damn, this lady is beyond stupid, contradicting her own statements in the same interview
kida2k313 10 months ago
Love how much she's complaining about political correctness yet spends 10 minutes dancing around admitting that she wants muslims to be discriminated against.
SarahB360 10 months ago
Joy tiz wow she must be the long lost cousin of Sarah Palin My god These Rednecks are beyond stupid I have never seen a more stupid,dumb retarded being.
ChristinaLaRosa18 10 months ago
racial profiling is what she wants....
maxxmatt11 10 months ago
LMAO Part of the "anti-government movement" WTF. Wow thats not general or anything...he is arguing like a 5 year old and making up shit. First off wtf is the "anti-government movement" lets get a little more specific, second where is the evidence that he was part of this unspecified "anti-government movement, because i've never heard of it until the CENK said it....lets argue with some logic here kid.
theUSER101 10 months ago
lol 7 million muslims in the world...there is no more hope for the right wing
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3Dtamplegod 11 months ago
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3Dtamplegod 11 months ago
@3Dtamplegod lol
alienlifeform11 11 months ago
IF GOD SHOWS human evidence of his existence then human too will start to behave like an angel. And IT WAS a wish of ALMIGHTY ALLAH not to take human in a paradise before they experiment an imperfect world. YOU WILL NOT UNDERSTAND MUSLIM. WE ARE HAPPY WITH OUR BELIEVE. ACCORDING TO ISLAM THE LAST PERSON COMING OUT OF HELL WILL GET A PARADISE EQUAL TO 10 EARTH & WE BELIEVE IT IS POSSIBLE & WE BELIEVE ONLY KNOWLEDGE OF GOD PRESENT WITH US SO GOD NEVER NEEDS HUMAN WOMB TO PROVE HIS EXISTENCE.
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alienlifeform11 11 months ago
lmao....look at cenks face at 9:42...he's like.."wtf???"
longwaitedrest 11 months ago
Holy shit - this has got to be the most circles someone has ever run around their own damned conversation that I have ever encountered in my life. She is willfully dense. She has no point, she just likes to hear herself argue. What a fuck wit.
M0US3P0T4TO 11 months ago
She kind of did it in a bonehead way, but here's what she is saying. In the Army we go to these things called EO, equal oppurtinity, classes says you cannot discrimnate based race, ethnicity, gender,religion and one other can't remember. She's saying that people might feel afraid that if you witness some form of extremism or a red flag that involves a person's religion and you report it that then you could be showing a form of discrimnation. In the Army that can get you into a lot of trouble.
Bhill68 11 months ago
this guy is an idiot..
lark2659 11 months ago
As a muslim, i'm so offended by this woman. Islam is about peace & faith, yes we do have brothers who have gone to the evil path but they don't represent us. The world will be a better place if 'Joy Tizm' (the way of thinking) does not exist.
shakelikenumber8 11 months ago
she just wouldnt commit to any one solid point, aye... pinning this chica down to an actual factual opinion is like pulling teeth... she just keeps going on and one with the one liner same ol same ol right wing talking points that arent talking points... go figure... change change change, but change what...
SynS7ven 11 months ago
Unfortunately, this how many Americans view this situation. Just assuming that all Muslims are in some way associated with extremists and we should be concerned. Just BULLSHIT!!! Yeah, just looked what happened in Tucson.
BabyBang17datruth 1 year ago
Cenk probably screamed his lungs out after that interview. I do that after talks with an idiot, makes me feel better. then i get a migraine :/
MrAbbant 1 year ago
7 million muslim around the world??????. You are a stupid fucking redneck speaking without facts, typical conservative ignorant biatchhhh!!!!!
obeynot 1 year ago 4
I love how all these Conservatives want to sweep Bush under the rug now and claim he was never one of their's while all he have to do is look up what they said about him while he was President.
Eaglesfaninca 1 year ago
"there are 7 million muslims in the country"
"no I said in the world there's 7 million muslims"
ummmmm.....uuuuhhhhhhh.......
Feralus69 1 year ago
notice that she changed her statement from 7 million in the country then changed it in the world when Cenk got her on the country
BobDole128 1 year ago
haahhaaha there are EIGHT MILLION MUSLIMS!!?!?!?! Get out of here!!!
sera7ares 1 year ago
@sera7ares i know i laughed my ass off when she said that! You gotta give Cenk credit for not calling her a dumbass. She obviously doesn't know shit.
BobDole128 1 year ago
Poor Canada! She writes for the Canada Free Press :(
AkowSteffan 1 year ago
@AkowSteffan
meh, canadians destroy her all the time from what i've seen, she reminds me of the canadian version of glen beck but without the inbred following.
Feralus69 1 year ago
this chick has neither the factual information, or the intellectual capacity to even attemp to argue with someoen like Cenk. Give up (to put it bluntly) you stupid bitch.
porangahauien 1 year ago
"There are 7 million Muslims in the world"
This woman needs to come out of the dungeon.
shotta0121 1 year ago
man this woman is FUCKIN RETARDED!!!
Ucorn 1 year ago
"Hand off the muslim policy in miltary??" where did she get that from? I always get "randomly" chosen at the airports for just being a brown guy at security check points....not that I mind.... and I am not even a muslim
lasku0007 1 year ago
7 million muslims in the world? With such a flagrant lie as that the interview should have ended there.
ragenut2112 1 year ago
WOW...that bitch is just dumb. You could ask all 1-2billion Muslims in the world.."hey how many of you want to...are going to...or have thought about killing an American" 2000 of them could say "yeea I am/have"..and she would be like " SEE I TOLD YOU! MUSLIMS KILL PEOPLE! ..but then you can show her that in THIS COUNTRY Christianily is one of the MAIN causes of past wars and killings she would just laugh and say "its not the same"...come on dude....smh
VaGurl88 1 year ago
the three largest religions on the world: Judaism, Christianity, Islam. Not in that order.
MrDerby2u 1 year ago
one out of 100 want to kill me?
MrDerby2u 1 year ago
what about charles Manson? what about that guy in Waco? these are the right wing crazies just like he was talking about
MrDerby2u 1 year ago
Wow, how Cenk didnt hang up,unbeilivable..
4624tone 1 year ago
As soon as this IDIOTIC woman claimed that the Muslim population in the world is closer to 7 million, I was done even taking her remotely seriously. And she tells Cenk to do some "Googling" of the baseless claim that a lot of mosques are run by Saudis? Why don't you do some "Googling" yourself lady... because than you would know that the Muslim population in the world is a massive 1,571,198,000. Wow, conservatives are so ignorant... it's unbelievable how they manage to survive in this country.
LibertyInProgress 1 year ago 4
Wow. What hurts is that people like her are everywhere. No real concrete facts to support their prejudices. Listening to her makes me physically ill. Muslims are the last religion its okay to discriminate against publicly and get away with it as free speech. Can you imagine the uproar if she was talking about screening Jews in the military? Those men are serving their country. It just creates resentment when you treat them like criminals just because of what they believe. Joy Tiz- you are low.
TheFutileSearch 1 year ago
LOL This bitch is just too stupid to understand or she just doesn't want to admit that she's wrong.
Either way, she's pathetic.
Zentz29 1 year ago
This woman is CRAZY!!!!
3151cove 1 year ago
she thinks that 1% is the smallest porcentage u can have xD... where do get this people america?
berno91 1 year ago
i cant believe how that bitch has no idea about numbers. 1% of muslims are terrorist. 7 million muslims in the world? how can u take her seriously?????
huereguetueli 1 year ago
idare et su esek kariyi, salak kari....
XxDollarBill 1 year ago
"In the WORLD? In the WORLD there's over 1 billion Muslims"
"Ehh, I think it's more like 7 million Muslims"
hahahah
tyler92646 1 year ago
oh my GOD she is so dumb
fahdkhalid 1 year ago
7 million muslims in the world! I only wish! lol.
doom3lv 1 year ago
Islam is peace........Islam means submission only to ONE god.
{Jesus} and {Moses} peace be upon THEM are prophets and they are muslims because they worshipped one GOD.
Peace
markusasmithi 1 year ago
@markusasmithi Stupid motherfucker. islam is the worst religion in the world. Your prophet is a pedophile, and you assholes worship him.
I will draw a picture of prophet mohammed and have him fuck a pig. Asshole.
doom3lv 1 year ago
@doom3lv
you cannot prove me wrong......try again
peace
markusasmithi 1 year ago
@markusasmithi Take out that bomb vest from your closet. Go to your nearest mosque, blow yourself up and take out a few more muslims while you are at it. You will be doing the world a huge favor.
doom3lv 1 year ago
@doom3lv
Is this what you(the west) call civilisation?
Islam is growing fast and it will prevail all over the world.
Peace
Peace
markusasmithi 1 year ago
@doom3lv I would have to say that Christianity is one of the worst religions. Heck, I think that religion in general is one of the worst things that was ever created.
freakycrazyhorse 1 year ago
This has got to be staged nobody is this stupid
ohwnou 1 year ago 14
@ohwnou sadly not
MacMan5555 1 year ago
@ohwnou Oh my man, yes they are! Cenk is smart and how he stayed on line with her, thats political correctness gone way wrong, LOL
4624tone 1 year ago
@ohwnou yes theres a lot of people that stupit they are the conservetive cristians
palinsextape 5 months ago
One more thing, I'm reading the rest of the comments here and it's clear that Cenk is becoming his own worst enemy. He's basically a rant gone awry with his set of cherry picked facts.
lestliness 1 year ago
@lestliness cheerlead somewhere else pinhead
awsumpossum1 1 year ago
@awsumpossum1 Pinhead? Who are you? Bill O'reilly? Go fuck yourself!
lestliness 1 year ago
Poor Cenk I swear, it must have been really hard to stop him self from calling her a stupid bitch.
Lobato1987 1 year ago 56
@Lobato1987 im sure he did it post-debate
mshk1989 1 year ago
@Lobato1987 It was hard for me not to and I was just listening. "7 million Muslims in the world" made me chuckle a bit. Then I realized that she was serious and I was about to cry from frustration.
Nethr 8 months ago
This lady thought there were 7 million muslims in the world? SHE IS SO STUPID! How wrong can you possibly be?
CENSOREDFORSEX 1 year ago 2
lmao HAHAHA
7 million muslims in the world . . . she's fucken idiotic.
i cannot believe i used to support the war in iraq. thank you tyt you helped me see the light
MapleMeadows 1 year ago 3
What!! Seven Million muslims?! How did he let that go??
cocojumbo555 1 year ago
This wench is stupid...!
shafia87 1 year ago
She clearly hadn't heard of the IRA....
emmyjo720 1 year ago
This person is obviously an idiot. She doesn't even know math, I don't know why Cenk continued that debate for more than a second after the
Cenk: "There are over 1 billion Muslims in the world"
Joy:"I think it's closer to 7 million, but I'll give you that."
She's a dimwit.
wiibot15 1 year ago
man that lady is fucking retarded
cvrtops101 1 year ago
How can Joy Tiz with so much education be so dense?
juarezrt 1 year ago
I just watched 5 and a half minutes, but I have to comment: As an evil neocon, who supports Bush, I must say that sometimes when I listen to people on "my side", they are such hacks that I wonder if we can expell them from the movement. I certainly hope that you on the left feel the same about some of your people (and no, I'm not talking about Lieberman or Ron Silver, I'm talking about people who agree with you but are total hacks).
TomerMMHA 1 year ago
Ooops...sorry, as i keep forgetting we're not allowed to mention Bush. heh heh Except it 'sho is funny' how Book signings got moved up 3 months, and where the hell is that 'Motivational speaking tour' these days...in a van down by the river?
Forget 'largest debt in US history, and signing of TARP/bailouts, 13 month recession, and loss of 3 MILLION jobs in last 14 months.
BUT Sshhhh. we're not allowed to talk about it. heh heh FUCK YOU!
MrClaydough 1 year ago
And now Repug Prez contender 'Newt' says 'No churches in Saudi Arabia, then no Mosques in USA'. Now, we base our freedoms, our bill of rights and constitution on Muslim countries? Way to go R's! NEWT/PALIN 2012
Iraq had all denominational churches on any give Sunday, until we decided Saddam was such a bad man, we had to blow 3 trillion dollars, start a Civil War, kill 100's of 1000's, bust up our military and economy. Bush was the one who gave free pass! To Bin ladin family on day of 9-11.
MrClaydough 1 year ago
We have a simple little thing that works in military and many businesses. Its called the 'Chain of Command'. That didnt apply here, as in Abu Ghraib. Mcvey...didnt have idealology? Of course they killed him quickly to remove any such ideal, and witness or assistance! He's shutting down this moron...'oh no' not Bush again mantra? You righties cant use history then! No Bush! No history!
Bottom line, your superiors are also responsible for your actions.
7 million muslims? heh heh Shes a moron
MrClaydough 1 year ago
@MrClaydough
Talking of "Chain of Command" I highly encourage you to buy the book titled: The Chain Of Command: The Road from 9/11 to Abu Gharib.
It's by Seymour Hersh.
gunnerfan87 1 year ago 2
@gunnerfan87 Ah...the Hershmeister....love that man. Thanx
MrClaydough 1 year ago
@MrClaydough I forgot. God Bless Seymour Hirsh.
MrClaydough 1 year ago
@MrClaydough
Hersh, along with Robert Fisk and Amira Hass, is one of the few remaining journalists who report the truth and not government propaganda.
gunnerfan87 1 year ago
Cenk you should get the Nobel prize for Patience. I don't know how you put up with such a lunatic.
gunnerfan87 1 year ago 53
@gunnerfan87 agreed, i would go nuts listening to unfairness and un justice and republican ideas as a job. listening to republicans all day......on fox news makes people stupid look at the tea party convention.
kathy160 1 year ago
@kathy160
Just compare Cenk's patience and etiquette that of with right-wingers like Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Coulter...
gunnerfan87 1 year ago 3
@gunnerfan87 She is not a lunatic. The muslims are the lunatics.
doom3lv 1 year ago
@doom3lv Oh no, Muslims! I heard that some of them are crazy and will blow themselves up! That must mean all of them are out to kill me! I better go and do some favors for MY god. Maybe if I kill some abortionists, when the Muslims kill me, then I'll go to heaven. Extremism of any kind is horrible. Being Christian doesn't exclude you from being a terrorist and being Muslim doesn't guarantee that you are going to terrorize anyone! I think that religion should be as private as social security.
itouch1234567 1 year ago 3
Wow this lady is an Idiot
jwats91 1 year ago
@jwats91 EXACTLY what i was thinking.
Greenwolfdragon 1 year ago
@EstevanL
the U.S. will not go after FARC because they are small fish compared to others, like girl scout selling cookies.
crazyjack000 1 year ago
A woman with this level of stupidity, ignorance, hypocrisy and brain laziness should be unemployed!!!
grozde 1 year ago
am i the only one that read her name as toy jizz? hope not....
TheJesterfilms 1 year ago
"...you are trying to make me a muslim hater"....
no Joy, we knew you were a hater right when you were introduced as a conservative
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johhnyboy89 1 year ago
I just got SOOOOO much angry-er at the world when I heard what she had to say.
shoomiz723x 1 year ago
Cenk baffled her to the point she lost her own point.
sage0857 1 year ago
Those soldiers died helping protect diversity and freedom. That’s why they join. The know risk is there. Yes, if we don’t protect our diversity, we will lose countless more lives in turn. She hinting to scrutinize military men more just for being Muslim “Stop telling people they’ll be in trouble if they mention the fact he was Muslim” “If he hears this guy is Muslim and giving lectures on…” Who cares about religion that isn’t important. He wants to kill soldiers=important part.
USA!
luanluan2006 1 year ago
Let's not talk about Bush. But he's still relevant, he existed.
Fox news kept trying to link Bush failures to Clinton's doings.
Washington, Lincoln, Roosevelt etc: all pretty freaking relevant. SO once a president, always relevant. Own up to Bush dammit.
luanluan2006 1 year ago
I don't think she was that bad.... Actually I think Cenk jumped to some conclusions.... He is having a Straw Man debate - making her into someone she has not said she was.
Is some of her reasoning wrong? As well as facts?? lol (7 million Muslims???) yes. But she seemed like a reasonable person.
dylanbellisle 1 year ago