Funny, the soldiers themselves wanted this game, the soldiers who fought in Fallujah. And instead of writing a book like most people, they wanted to make an experience, something a person could see. And what happens? People who shouldn't get involved got involved. These guys deserve to have their story told their way....
I don't normally play shooters, and especially not "realistic" ones at that, but "Six Days in Fallujah" I actually find interesting. The soldiers themselves asked for this to be a game, probably in an attempt to educate people on what happened there in a most accessible way than a lecture, and Atomic was willing to oblige. Good on you, Atomic, and best of luck! I look forward to learning from your game.
I like some people in fox (Looking at you, Glen) buuuuut censoring video games is NOT okay. Video games are the most involved form of story telling. No different than novels or films. Fox of all people should believe in freedom of the press!
Fox news is full of shit you want to honor soldiers that have fallen make sure their families are well taken care of. They can try and hate on video game makers but yet they showed the crocodile hunter getting killed on national tv. The same news channel airs deaths of soldiers in iraq before families can be notified properly. Violence and death is proven to get ratings on public tv but you want to ban video games that can be played in the privacy of the home.
With all due respect people who try to censor video games can suck my dick. Yes i fucking said it. Cup my balls and stroke the shaft up down up down b, b, lol
@HazelBLAZE247 It seems like people want to censor the intelligent games, but leave the mindless killing games alone. Try not to defend the games with cursing. It only reinforces the COD stereotype.
part 3 >>> Isnt it worse that we are in the age of global information and we STILL dont make the fucking research because we are lazy?? Take Roger Ebert for instance. He claims that video games are not art even if he admited that he didnt do the proper research to begin with. Look ma boy, i could say that films are generally shit by the mere existance of the Transformers and Twilight films but i am not going around saying that "Films will never be art"
part 2 >>>> Thanks to people who believes that games are dumb over the top bullshit, comics are just about punching people and nothing else and movies like WALL-E is just a children movie and therefore doesn't deserve Oscars that we have this kind of problem. Its like if we call something a "Game" they inmediatelly think its making fun of something. Are we stuck in the middle age again?? we have to change the name "Alchemy" to "Chemistry" to avoid the pitchforks and torches treatment??
YOU DUMB BITCH!! Its was made with the fucking intention to make the players fell bad about being in the war. To channel the sensation and emotions that the soldiers had when they were there, thus making the game realistic by NOT glorying the massacre (either by making it over the top or propagandist). If this game would made people drop the controller and question its own motivations and from the people that send him to battle then it could have been a great but NOOO, you have to ban it anyway
You know what's funny? This would've probably been the best game ever. Its the same army game like any other, mw2 has soldiers why don't they all the good things away. Fucking moms.
The problem with controversial games is that they are "games". The social inherited stigma of games is that their primary objective is to provide people with "fun". Movies or books are a more "serious" medium in this case, while it is possible to make funny comics and comedy movies, there is a possibility of keeping a serious tone with movies or books. Games on the other hand? not quite. it takes only one lunatic, fraps and stupid microphone coments to turn a serious game moment into a shame.
Another thing with controversial games and controversial movies/books is that a movie or a book has a default set pace and atmosphere and the reciever can only analyze it and see it as the author wished for it. Games on the other hand are different. Like I mentioned before, people can fool around in games. Ignorant player can simply use cheats or play the game differently than it was meant and can turn a serious Deus Ex: Human Revolution into a drooling FPS shooter for frat boys.
"For a fair and balanced discussion." ??? Really??? Is that what you call it Mrs Fox Presenter? You obviously are on the side of ignorance, and the last ten seconds were disgraceful. You slander the game and do not let the developer respond and cut him off. Bitch. People like you are holding our industry back.
So fat fuck Michael moore can make farenheight 9/11 where you see real American soldiers getting hit by bullets but we can't have a game. And he is anti American who should be dead. But we can't have a game that helps people get away from the real world if they need to
Sometimes I just really hate nintendo of america. They won't publish some awesome games that I wish they did like mother 3 (on the virtual console) or the last story. I love nintendo but just not NoA.
video gamers are to weak and fat to her anyone. i would keep my eyes on the ones who learn keraty they physicality learn how to heart people how com there is now contravercy there.
War simulation could be used to educate people about war, or such a game could still teach one about other things while having the war game as an element. though it isnt an appropriate means of instruction it can still have the effect of atleast teaching people about history.
War simulation could be used to educate people about war, or such a game could still teach one about other things while having the war game as an element. though it isnt an appropriate means of instruction it can still have the effect of atleast teaching people about history.
War simulation could be used to educate people about war, or such a game could still teach one about other things while having the war game as an element. though it isnt an appropriate means of instruction it can still have the effect of atleast teaching people about history.
War simulation could be used to educate people about war, or such a game could still teach one about other things while having the war game as an element. though it isnt an appropriate means of instruction it can still have the effect of atleast teaching epople about history.
The game creator had a good about informing the audience about the battle. I'm young, and, until now, I'd never heard of the battle of Fellujah. And, althought I'm not much for war games, it seems like a genuinely good game.
Great Video I agree they deserve respect for sticking with their game idea and also "Six Days In Fallujha" would have been a great game not just for playing but also for insight to the war and things soldiers went through.
Now i really can't agree with the statement "we are not toymakers" since the original purpose and existence of these video games are to be, well, games. I do not think it should be inpossible to make a game with a much deeper messege, especially since it is an interactive medium, and could probably hit even harder home. But at the same time, a game is a game, and people get uncomfortable when something that is meant to be enjoyed is mixed with a much more serious statement.
Why are people complaining about war video games? The video games don't hurt anyone, the worst they'll do is waste a lot of productive time. The wars on the other hand are the most destructive things humanity has been able to conjure up. All of these moms cheering their boys on overseas fighting a war need some sense smacked into then when they are complaining about electrical signals changing lights on a screen based on human input. Video games are a inexpensive fun leave them alone.
Fair and balanced discussion! What a joke! This lady is completely against the game and she's not doing her job correctly. She should simply ask questions and have the guests argue rather than her put in her stupid and BIASED opinion.
so we shouldnt give the men a role in a video game and just leave them as a blankless memory i believe we should give them a gift atleast and hey video gam,es are great fox is just being gey like they always do when it comes 2 games
This makes a lot of sense. It is true why most people hate the idea about real life on games is because they have the idea the games=kids toys with a little story. You do not see many(or as much) people go hating movies/tv series ect. why? because people have it that movies can apply to all ages and can teach adults. but when people think of adding real life to games means games+kids+real life=Big fat no.
honestly, six days does sound like it could be a good idea. If they tried to make it heavily story driven, character-focused, and documentary-esque. They would definitely need to make it NOT a war simulator. This would mean they would need to take out competitive multiplayer, or at least make more tasteful, less mindless game modes.
Video games do not promote obesity (how does your logic work?). If you decide to sit on your fat ass and play for 7 hours and eating only Doritos and brownies, is that the games fault? Parents should restrict allowed time to play and adults should use common sense. Video games are the most amazing form of art, stop trying to ruin them, bastards!
Video games do not promote obesity (how does your logic work?). If you decide to sit on your fat ass and play for 7 hours and eating only Doritos and brownies, is that the games fault? Parents should restrict allowed time to play and adults should use common sense. Video games are the most amazing form of art, stop trying to ruin them, bastards!
the only point i can agree to, is the fact that Video games do promote obesity if you play long time. But the rest, is crap, i've made a lot of real life friends, many of them considered one of the more reliable i've known. Even a girl i used to date, all because of gaming.
The most stupid thing is the mainstream media condemning this kind of games, even when they're the first vultures festing on war in far regions of the world.
People get in such a mood over this game saying "Oh its a bit offensive to my son/brother who died in that war" Thing is though in COD Finest hour the first third of the game is about the battle of Stalingrad. Thousands of brave men died in that battle. So when the game was made why was their no controversy about it. In fact why no controversy over any game based in WWII? Brave men died there just like in Felusia. So why no controversy? Is it because Felusia was more recent? Well no differnece!!
@tuzathedarknight, Fallujah was more recent. Some families figured turning a battle that their sons and daughters died in was somewhat insulting. they probably felt that it was wrong to turn a battle that killed their relatives into a medium for entertainment horrible and unconsionable. There is a difference: the battle of Stalingrad happenned years ago. anyone who fought their are now either dead or old. We are still fighting the Iraq War. It's still fresh in the families' of soldiers minds.
Sounded like that developer had something stuck in his windpipe... wasn't good of him to cave under that one comment he should have been expecting, but on the other hand, dude was under a lot of pressure.
Was this twisted by Fox News? Of course, twisted stories get the most air-time. Consider, though, that they had two proponents vs. one opponent, and one of the proponents was Capt. Reed, a strong military man who actually had men under his command die there. Americans respect those who serve
I mean, the mom wasn't that bad. Sure, she wasn't for the game, but she lost her son, so it's understandable that she'd react negatively to something that relates his death to a "game", which is exactly the problem being addressed in this video. Had it been a film, she might have been more accepting. However, at least she seemed to have some semblance of what the makers of the game were trying to do.
The FOX bitch, on the other hand, can go choke on shit.
The fox news part was very hard to watch, that game developer did the exact opposite of what he should because he did it in fear. The woman wanted his son to be remembered, the soldiers wanted their story to be told, the only thing that when wrong was that guy who wasn’t more of a chicken ‘cuz he was to nervous to cluck.
Great feature. I think the branding of "video games" really does need to be updated. Super Columbine Massacre RPG was rejected from a competition, after which other developers pulled their games out. That kind of solidarity is exactly what the medium needs, from hobbyists and commercial developers.
Video games are not toys!!! imho this industry is an important aspect of art and has all rights to compete with movies industry, poetry and other arts, because it involves the player to make his own moral choice! really, why do people so ignorant and treat video games like that?
My idea is why fims about "delicate" topics (like holocaust, etc) are "allowed" and games aren't is that major audience still thinks of games as entertainment. As something funny. The movie can, for example, show you some bad actions of a person and it will be shown that it's bad. That it's a heavy topic, etc. And ppl think "these games allow people to PLAY with such DELICATE things! How dare they?!" Games are still thought of as a funny stuff, although nowadays many games aren't that much.
I feel the same way 100% what is it about games that people won't let us explore. Well me personal I have hadn't with their shit they can't understand because they don't share the passion that we share with games.
2015 killing u.s commies maby having a secret code to make the game a torchuer sim. iffy kids being the last americans alive to fight it all oh "yeah"(wolfenstine)
In fact, I'd argue that this is actually cementing this perceived status of games as pretty much harmless, innocent toys of no actual value or merit besides being simplistic timewasters.
Anyway, I give it 30 years at least before anything starts to really change in the right direction. And it's going to get worse before it gets better. Much worse (and not necessarily only because of the controversies).
This is one of the reasons why I'm sceptical about your optimistic reaction towards the rise of casual gaming - I mean, sure, technically you could say that more people are playing games, but there's a pretty big chasm between those games and, say, Six days in Fallujah. In fact, those casual gamers mostly stick to casual games, and I can't see how going from completely ignorant ("I dunno about video games") to painfully misinformed ("games = bejeweled / farmville or equivalent") is helping.
Ah, but you see, this change of perception of games simply isn't happening untill pretty much the majority of people are gamers who actually see nothing wrong in playing serious games - the current critics would have to actually play and understand those games, which can be summed with "yeah, right".
Here's a new branding video games can use: Interactive Narrative. It explains what they're about while removing the surprisingly pejorative moniker of "game."
I really hate controversies like this. Six days in Fallujah should have been made, for the simple reason, it would bring the war and some of it's experiences to our living room.
I hate the fact that just because people put this "kiddie" stigmata on games, because they are just "games" this medium suddenly isnt allowed to openly explore serious subjects!
that hole contraversy bulshit is just that bulshit! ok i get it theres a war where are young men are dying for us. thats ok. but shouldnt we expierece it? i mean wht would give u a better look on wht they go through? the edited shit on fox news? or expiriencing it in a game? maybe people wouldnt support war if they new wht really happens? tell me wht u think please
I agree there is an overall hypocrisy of this. It is amazing that many have to complain about this "war game" but then don't say anything of the constant swarm of WW2 games?
Fox news is completely biased in their opinion about SIx Days. The interviewer cuts the captain guy off in the middle of his speech and passes the talk right away to the mother and lets her finish her whole story. The developer and captain's comments were way more convincing than the mother's but the reporter kept being a biased XXXX
What about cod COD and MOH they sure don't seem to care much for the people who died in WW2 it seems stupid that they disapprove of this game because is newER and easier to attack.
@sala206 actually, killing members of the Taliban is not a big deal either to most people. The idea of members of the Taliban killing U.S. Soldiers while the Taliban were being controlled by users in Multiplayer was the big deal over Medal of Honor. The controversy over Six Days was that it was such a recent war and many people had died in that war. Similar to what happened with Six Days, but not quite.
@ImpKicker But in actual games like CoD which do little to no historical research, they neglect to mention that not every German soldier was a nazi and most of them weren't.
That reminds me about Resident Evil 5 there was a HUGE controversy about them shooting "black" zombies. OH it was PERFECTLY ok to shoot white/America zombies, IT WAS EVEN FINE to go to Spain and shoot Spaniard "zombies" BUT OH once the color of the skin went brown OH NO! it was "racist" sorry um if your the undead it does not matter the color of the skin, zombies must die. so it's not racist it's zombie-ist. they just get so crazy with it
@Callise God I remember that. It's pretty funny and ironic since no one ever said jack-shit about Resident Evil 4 when you're playing as Leon going around shooting Hispanics XD
@DJVirgoNeun I KNOW! It's ok to shoot white/american zombies it's ok to shoot hispanics zombies...BUT the moment it became black zombies it was racist. I was like SERIOUSLY? if it's undead I don't care what color the skin is undead must go back to remaining dead.
I'm glad you were not offended, it's like no matter the color of the skin if your a zombie you got to die...because we don't want zombies on the lawn.
@Callise Just some stupid show on Fox from the Family Guy dude. I don't like it. (yeah, from fox, irony. apparently video games are awful and damaging to kids, when many children are easily watching Family Guy which is far worse than anything in video games.)
@dapperfan44 omg I hate adult cartoons, I don't get why everyone is so obsessed, the art is ugly, the voice acting is bad, and I don't even find them funny. YES it is very true since it's animated kids will automatically watch it...parents don't care..
OMG I hate that they try to blame video games for school shootings. It isn't the video games driving people to violence, it's how their living environments and how they are raised.
@WhiteFox5Studios If it's Fox News, then there's no reason to take those clowns seriously. They're only as good as syndicated radio anyway. Just consider them to be the Wikipedia of TV, making shit up as they come along. XD
@KeybladeMaster33 u quickly jump to call me an idiot. i love kirithem and i have watched all his videos on escapist.com so sir, FUCK YOU. i also watch liberalviewer, AND everytime a video game seems to have a sliver of controversy fox news jumps on it. 6 days in falluja or however you spell it, would have been a great game, it was not going to be published to honor the men, but rather to educate the people who bought it. Dont be so quick to judge people. stop being a troll.
@KeybladeMaster33 fox news also jumps on these games not because of the war it shows. but because its in a "game" the people and viewers of fox news dont understand that its not just a frieken "game" but rather, somthing we can learn from, while it also be entertaining at the same time.
@GhostLate Oh, what oh so unbiased news channel do you watch. The people that say these things about Fox News don't know anything about it and are brain washed by liberal news channels beyond hope of repair. Don't bother replying because I really don't care what anyone else here has to say.
Oh, that's right. Cup your hands over you ears and ignore what everyone else has to say.
How typical of someone who follows and respects Fox News. Of course, there's always going to be a certain level of bias in news stations, and the best you can do is pick the least biased one. MSNBC and Fox News are pretty bad, I prefer reading my news on CNN online on the internet. At least I don't have to deal with religious nutjobs and made-up statistics.
It really is depressing knowing that people are pathetic enough to trust obviously biased news sources, which essentially cater to their every need - telling them exactly what they want to hear.
The point of a news program is to be as objective and as unbiased as possible, most news programs on TV are plain fuckwittery, but Fox News? They don't even try to hide their biases.
Love God? Hate gays? Love to suck other Republicans' pencil-dicks? Watch Fox News!
Yet, they made a movie out of it "Battle for Haditha"...even highlighting the event from 3 sides...
The Insurgent, the Marines, AND one innocent victim who was going to marry soon...
It was very recently, it is about something people don´t want to talk about usually, it depicted young and misguided soldiers as what they really are when the superiors aren´t looking.
Yeah, don´t go make movies or games about small scale battles so the people that stayed safely home get a fraction of what it was to be there....
Black Hawk Down? Platoon?
They are controversial because "OMFG I lost my son there, you inhuman bastards, how can you glorify such a battle!"
Yeah...and all the surviving soldiers totally go "These works are disrespectful to my comrades, who died in vain because noone fucking knows about it anyway..."
How is this game any more disrespectful then those @55holes that go to soilders' funnauls, with their ex."Burn in Hell" signs, and say that it's a good thing that they're dead?
Yeah, right. I saw one of their "Fair and balanced" discussions about Mass Effect after they got worked up about the incredibly tame sex scene. Apparently the game was all about having sex with as many women as possible and was hardcore porn. Half the people who slate video games, don't even understand them.
That ending was brilliant. If this was a movie that would probably be the part where the music swells up and some stone hearted character lets a single tear drop and at the end everyone applauds. I hope game designers see this and decide to follow suit. No more hiding when controversy hits behind the phrase "its just a game" but stand up to the term "art" and defend what you do.
the term "graphics novel" didn't make watchmen serious, it was the fact that Alan more would never say "just a comic"
It would be cool if they made a game about these dark themes that did a good job of making you feel for the people who fought or died (like with the holocaust) instead of fictionalizing real events into simple "good guys kill bad guys" stories like with saboteur.
Seriously there's nothing wrong with the game. I wouldn't know any thing about falujah or any other battle in Iraq until watching this vid and know bat the game. If ur son die. Well I'm sorry to hear and u shouldn't let him go in the first place. But I find most war games teaches me about history like cod waw or experience a soldier,s life.
I actually never heard of this battle and especially it's importance, but if this game were to be published; i surely would have bought it. What the folks at Atomic did was right in my mind, i probably never would have know about this unless it were to have been made into a game...
dude that interviewer was a huge ass BIOTCH. there's an article about it newsweek that's SO much better than stupid fox. people still get angry over historical events not be portrayed correctly in movies, too, so it's no big surprise.. pssh. typical. :|
Fox news clip plays, a sense of anger at hateful ignorance immediately springs up.
anonomous1324 11 hours ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Did anyone else do a slow clap after James' speech?
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well the experience is enenced cause its eneractive
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Funny, the soldiers themselves wanted this game, the soldiers who fought in Fallujah. And instead of writing a book like most people, they wanted to make an experience, something a person could see. And what happens? People who shouldn't get involved got involved. These guys deserve to have their story told their way....
JessFromMead 3 weeks ago
I don't normally play shooters, and especially not "realistic" ones at that, but "Six Days in Fallujah" I actually find interesting. The soldiers themselves asked for this to be a game, probably in an attempt to educate people on what happened there in a most accessible way than a lecture, and Atomic was willing to oblige. Good on you, Atomic, and best of luck! I look forward to learning from your game.
Twentydragon 1 month ago 4
I like some people in fox (Looking at you, Glen) buuuuut censoring video games is NOT okay. Video games are the most involved form of story telling. No different than novels or films. Fox of all people should believe in freedom of the press!
StuffedAnimalPlanet 2 months ago
Video games should be called interactive simulators, or simulators for short, or, for even shorter, just sims.
StuffedAnimalPlanet 2 months ago
If these games do come out, I definitley will get them. Just to support the medium.
IndridCold3 2 months ago
Fox news is full of shit you want to honor soldiers that have fallen make sure their families are well taken care of. They can try and hate on video game makers but yet they showed the crocodile hunter getting killed on national tv. The same news channel airs deaths of soldiers in iraq before families can be notified properly. Violence and death is proven to get ratings on public tv but you want to ban video games that can be played in the privacy of the home.
HazelBLAZE247 2 months ago 2
With all due respect people who try to censor video games can suck my dick. Yes i fucking said it. Cup my balls and stroke the shaft up down up down b, b, lol
HazelBLAZE247 2 months ago
@HazelBLAZE247 It seems like people want to censor the intelligent games, but leave the mindless killing games alone. Try not to defend the games with cursing. It only reinforces the COD stereotype.
aarforce13 2 months ago
27 people didnt do the research that clearly indicates "Without a shadow of doubt" that the "like" bottom is the one on the left
EmperorOfLols 2 months ago
part 3 >>> Isnt it worse that we are in the age of global information and we STILL dont make the fucking research because we are lazy?? Take Roger Ebert for instance. He claims that video games are not art even if he admited that he didnt do the proper research to begin with. Look ma boy, i could say that films are generally shit by the mere existance of the Transformers and Twilight films but i am not going around saying that "Films will never be art"
EmperorOfLols 2 months ago
part 2 >>>> Thanks to people who believes that games are dumb over the top bullshit, comics are just about punching people and nothing else and movies like WALL-E is just a children movie and therefore doesn't deserve Oscars that we have this kind of problem. Its like if we call something a "Game" they inmediatelly think its making fun of something. Are we stuck in the middle age again?? we have to change the name "Alchemy" to "Chemistry" to avoid the pitchforks and torches treatment??
EmperorOfLols 2 months ago
YOU DUMB BITCH!! Its was made with the fucking intention to make the players fell bad about being in the war. To channel the sensation and emotions that the soldiers had when they were there, thus making the game realistic by NOT glorying the massacre (either by making it over the top or propagandist). If this game would made people drop the controller and question its own motivations and from the people that send him to battle then it could have been a great but NOOO, you have to ban it anyway
EmperorOfLols 2 months ago
fuck australia :(
Timic83tc 2 months ago
i can understand why japanese government control its news and regulate it... btw this show was amazing. yall need to be on television
tkoizumi 2 months ago
With all the respect, isn't a little Cynical to USA to BAN a anything related to war?
matias7anriquez 2 months ago
oh god when these guys say video games they have the look of hate!
GAWD DAM
KFCArbiter 2 months ago
fuck fox news
edwardLRS 2 months ago
Not only am I angry at the news system for making a huge deal about games like MW2, I am now thirsty for some Sprite.
: )
HolmeDawg 3 months ago in playlist More videos from kirithem
You know what's funny? This would've probably been the best game ever. Its the same army game like any other, mw2 has soldiers why don't they all the good things away. Fucking moms.
dxhaloboy 3 months ago
Fox doesn't really care, they're just trying to get watched
Regginyaga 3 months ago
Many studies have linked violent behavior to violent games.
Sorry to burst your bubbles you little naive nerd kids.
135135135135135 3 months ago
@135135135135135 Link.
Antliamies 3 months ago
@Antliamies There you go.
135135135135135 3 months ago
@135135135135135 Didn't quite get the link to studies that link violent behavior to violent games.
Antliamies 3 months ago
@135135135135135 *Headdesk*
JD3V3N3Y 3 months ago
@135135135135135 Many more studies have outright disproved those connections.
Necroskull388 3 months ago in playlist More videos from kirithem
The problem with controversial games is that they are "games". The social inherited stigma of games is that their primary objective is to provide people with "fun". Movies or books are a more "serious" medium in this case, while it is possible to make funny comics and comedy movies, there is a possibility of keeping a serious tone with movies or books. Games on the other hand? not quite. it takes only one lunatic, fraps and stupid microphone coments to turn a serious game moment into a shame.
DzoGavert 4 months ago
@DzoGavert
Another thing with controversial games and controversial movies/books is that a movie or a book has a default set pace and atmosphere and the reciever can only analyze it and see it as the author wished for it. Games on the other hand are different. Like I mentioned before, people can fool around in games. Ignorant player can simply use cheats or play the game differently than it was meant and can turn a serious Deus Ex: Human Revolution into a drooling FPS shooter for frat boys.
DzoGavert 4 months ago
"For a fair and balanced discussion." ??? Really??? Is that what you call it Mrs Fox Presenter? You obviously are on the side of ignorance, and the last ten seconds were disgraceful. You slander the game and do not let the developer respond and cut him off. Bitch. People like you are holding our industry back.
Halozane 4 months ago
Just found your channel today, seriously loving all of your videos!
nickdog670 4 months ago in playlist Videos from kirithem
Does anyone notice that its only a small few who makes the gaming industry look really bad? i.e. non-gamer critics.
2013branth 5 months ago
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ZaneBarrow 5 months ago
That mother doesn't want people to kill people virtually but was happy to let her son go and kill real people! What idiots.
EpicChezProductions 5 months ago
You know what, this inspired me to take a stand on my own beliefs.
madcat789 5 months ago
Was the Facing Controversy episode on Escapist this same video, but with new artwork?
warpedworld9 5 months ago
You're one smartass, huh? You sure covered every issue in such short time! gotta subscribe for this.
Miganishi 6 months ago
So fat fuck Michael moore can make farenheight 9/11 where you see real American soldiers getting hit by bullets but we can't have a game. And he is anti American who should be dead. But we can't have a game that helps people get away from the real world if they need to
RBFF123 6 months ago
@RBFF123 Farenheit 451 was written by Ray Bradbury,and I don't remember any bullets,just some tame burning to death.
Necroskull388 3 months ago
Sometimes I just really hate nintendo of america. They won't publish some awesome games that I wish they did like mother 3 (on the virtual console) or the last story. I love nintendo but just not NoA.
jgiubardo 7 months ago
video gamers are to weak and fat to her anyone. i would keep my eyes on the ones who learn keraty they physicality learn how to heart people how com there is now contravercy there.
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War simulation could be used to educate people about war, or such a game could still teach one about other things while having the war game as an element. though it isnt an appropriate means of instruction it can still have the effect of atleast teaching people about history.
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War simulation could be used to educate people about war, or such a game could still teach one about other things while having the war game as an element. though it isnt an appropriate means of instruction it can still have the effect of atleast teaching people about history.
Spieldamelenium 7 months ago
War simulation could be used to educate people about war, or such a game could still teach one about other things while having the war game as an element. though it isnt an appropriate means of instruction it can still have the effect of atleast teaching people about history.
Spieldamelenium 7 months ago
War simulation could be used to educate people about war, or such a game could still teach one about other things while having the war game as an element. though it isnt an appropriate means of instruction it can still have the effect of atleast teaching epople about history.
Spieldamelenium 7 months ago
The game creator had a good about informing the audience about the battle. I'm young, and, until now, I'd never heard of the battle of Fellujah. And, althought I'm not much for war games, it seems like a genuinely good game.
EmoYaoiFangirl 7 months ago
If anyone blocked my way into a game store, because of this (like on the Ubisoft store photo) I would just push through them.
therock435 7 months ago
This is by far the best youtube video i have seen in months!Amazing stuff!!
weezy2317 7 months ago
"Fair and balanced discussion": don't make me laugh, Fox
shiv595 7 months ago
@shiv595 Hahahaha soo tru!!
weezy2317 7 months ago
Can't stop watching these videos.
Seikufu 8 months ago
#1 Question to ask Fox News before they start talking shit about games:
Have you played it yet?
TheRoflAzn 8 months ago 74
@TheRoflAzn Of course they haven't. They're about as "fair and balanced" as a rich white guy who grew up in the 19th century.
MidnaKoopa 6 months ago
Great Video I agree they deserve respect for sticking with their game idea and also "Six Days In Fallujha" would have been a great game not just for playing but also for insight to the war and things soldiers went through.
SNAKESOAP117 8 months ago
Now i really can't agree with the statement "we are not toymakers" since the original purpose and existence of these video games are to be, well, games. I do not think it should be inpossible to make a game with a much deeper messege, especially since it is an interactive medium, and could probably hit even harder home. But at the same time, a game is a game, and people get uncomfortable when something that is meant to be enjoyed is mixed with a much more serious statement.
DisfunctionalMisfunc 9 months ago
Interactive Media.
vawriss3 9 months ago
Why are people complaining about war video games? The video games don't hurt anyone, the worst they'll do is waste a lot of productive time. The wars on the other hand are the most destructive things humanity has been able to conjure up. All of these moms cheering their boys on overseas fighting a war need some sense smacked into then when they are complaining about electrical signals changing lights on a screen based on human input. Video games are a inexpensive fun leave them alone.
frade001 9 months ago 3
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schmidtyfro 9 months ago
Fair and balanced discussion! What a joke! This lady is completely against the game and she's not doing her job correctly. She should simply ask questions and have the guests argue rather than her put in her stupid and BIASED opinion.
schmidtyfro 9 months ago
so we shouldnt give the men a role in a video game and just leave them as a blankless memory i believe we should give them a gift atleast and hey video gam,es are great fox is just being gey like they always do when it comes 2 games
sonicadx 9 months ago
Thumbs up.
Check out tale of tales "3D realtime art manifesto"
Intellectual game makers - UNITE!
nestletreb 10 months ago
I hope ur words reach alot more than just youtube. I cant wait to see the day that games could be considered art
Plasmaspaz101 10 months ago
video games all the way
thearcticfox101 10 months ago
This makes a lot of sense. It is true why most people hate the idea about real life on games is because they have the idea the games=kids toys with a little story. You do not see many(or as much) people go hating movies/tv series ect. why? because people have it that movies can apply to all ages and can teach adults. but when people think of adding real life to games means games+kids+real life=Big fat no.
TheDrDrProductions 10 months ago
honestly, six days does sound like it could be a good idea. If they tried to make it heavily story driven, character-focused, and documentary-esque. They would definitely need to make it NOT a war simulator. This would mean they would need to take out competitive multiplayer, or at least make more tasteful, less mindless game modes.
theJMBgamer 10 months ago
fox news sucks
LpJunior537 11 months ago 2
This was veeeeerrrry ggoooooood!! Im planning on being a video game developer, this could be very useful for the future I've chosen.
For a new video game name could be Interactive Film, or Interactive Simulator!
Brickman274 11 months ago
@Kapitan234
Video games do not promote obesity (how does your logic work?). If you decide to sit on your fat ass and play for 7 hours and eating only Doritos and brownies, is that the games fault? Parents should restrict allowed time to play and adults should use common sense. Video games are the most amazing form of art, stop trying to ruin them, bastards!
saladfingers123243 11 months ago
@Kapitan234
Video games do not promote obesity (how does your logic work?). If you decide to sit on your fat ass and play for 7 hours and eating only Doritos and brownies, is that the games fault? Parents should restrict allowed time to play and adults should use common sense. Video games are the most amazing form of art, stop trying to ruin them, bastards!
saladfingers123243 11 months ago
the only point i can agree to, is the fact that Video games do promote obesity if you play long time. But the rest, is crap, i've made a lot of real life friends, many of them considered one of the more reliable i've known. Even a girl i used to date, all because of gaming.
The most stupid thing is the mainstream media condemning this kind of games, even when they're the first vultures festing on war in far regions of the world.
This is just discusting
Kapitan234 11 months ago
Make a movie and it sells billions
Sell a game and it gets condemned
Trashcanman56 11 months ago
Fox News = Fucking stupid. FUCKING STUPID.
WingsMarioDS 11 months ago
People get in such a mood over this game saying "Oh its a bit offensive to my son/brother who died in that war" Thing is though in COD Finest hour the first third of the game is about the battle of Stalingrad. Thousands of brave men died in that battle. So when the game was made why was their no controversy about it. In fact why no controversy over any game based in WWII? Brave men died there just like in Felusia. So why no controversy? Is it because Felusia was more recent? Well no differnece!!
tuzathedarknight 11 months ago
@tuzathedarknight, Fallujah was more recent. Some families figured turning a battle that their sons and daughters died in was somewhat insulting. they probably felt that it was wrong to turn a battle that killed their relatives into a medium for entertainment horrible and unconsionable. There is a difference: the battle of Stalingrad happenned years ago. anyone who fought their are now either dead or old. We are still fighting the Iraq War. It's still fresh in the families' of soldiers minds.
SageofTalos 11 months ago
Sounded like that developer had something stuck in his windpipe... wasn't good of him to cave under that one comment he should have been expecting, but on the other hand, dude was under a lot of pressure.
Was this twisted by Fox News? Of course, twisted stories get the most air-time. Consider, though, that they had two proponents vs. one opponent, and one of the proponents was Capt. Reed, a strong military man who actually had men under his command die there. Americans respect those who serve
PrototypeClex 11 months ago
classic Fox news.
hotwhire 11 months ago
FUCK that fat bitch. And the skinny one. They both need to stfu and gtfo or be SHOT. I can't stand people like them.
bobjoemagee 11 months ago
@bobjoemagee Really?
I mean, the mom wasn't that bad. Sure, she wasn't for the game, but she lost her son, so it's understandable that she'd react negatively to something that relates his death to a "game", which is exactly the problem being addressed in this video. Had it been a film, she might have been more accepting. However, at least she seemed to have some semblance of what the makers of the game were trying to do.
The FOX bitch, on the other hand, can go choke on shit.
SuigaRou 10 months ago 54
hmm doesn't respect these soldiers... tell me again who asked this game to be made? OH YEAH IT WAS THE F****** SOLDIERS!!!!
Atrus2225 11 months ago
why are there religious signs against EA?
predetor69 1 year ago
@predetor69 because EA are the Electronic Anti Christ. Der. Jokes. Some people are just ignorant and stupid.
Acetopy2 11 months ago
Fuck Christian censorship, why can't all these Medieval folks go pray on some distant island where they won't bother anyone else?
Odieandgarfield 1 year ago
The fox news part was very hard to watch, that game developer did the exact opposite of what he should because he did it in fear. The woman wanted his son to be remembered, the soldiers wanted their story to be told, the only thing that when wrong was that guy who wasn’t more of a chicken ‘cuz he was to nervous to cluck.
TonaPollo 1 year ago
LOL 4:11
ZeRoxExotiC 1 year ago
FUCK YOU,FOX NEWS!!!!,They hate fun,cause,theres a stick up their asses,Bet,none of them actually play,assholes.
signis94 1 year ago
Great feature. I think the branding of "video games" really does need to be updated. Super Columbine Massacre RPG was rejected from a competition, after which other developers pulled their games out. That kind of solidarity is exactly what the medium needs, from hobbyists and commercial developers.
Anasastu 1 year ago
YOU GO JAMES.
4hand561 1 year ago
Video games are not toys!!! imho this industry is an important aspect of art and has all rights to compete with movies industry, poetry and other arts, because it involves the player to make his own moral choice! really, why do people so ignorant and treat video games like that?
DrDimk0o 1 year ago
Screw fox! There's only one news show that I trust...... The Colbert Report!
stickfig77 1 year ago
Fair and balanced discussion my ass!
ichater 1 year ago
My idea is why fims about "delicate" topics (like holocaust, etc) are "allowed" and games aren't is that major audience still thinks of games as entertainment. As something funny. The movie can, for example, show you some bad actions of a person and it will be shown that it's bad. That it's a heavy topic, etc. And ppl think "these games allow people to PLAY with such DELICATE things! How dare they?!" Games are still thought of as a funny stuff, although nowadays many games aren't that much.
cjfynjy 1 year ago
imagination is the only escape look like a really cool game :)
so....are they planning on releasing it in the near future? Or never?
xXSgofyyahXx 1 year ago
I feel the same way 100% what is it about games that people won't let us explore. Well me personal I have hadn't with their shit they can't understand because they don't share the passion that we share with games.
Halo6406 1 year ago
Whenever I see that blonde bimbo from FOX News, two words come to mind: Pure evil.
Novelboy2112 1 year ago
RAISE THE FLAG FOR GAMES AND GO!
Sombomombo 1 year ago
0:23 O_o
breathlessloveless 1 year ago
*facepalm* I hate people...
Sursion7 1 year ago
3:11 Fair and Balanced?
HomeOnASaturdayNight 1 year ago
2015 killing u.s commies maby having a secret code to make the game a torchuer sim. iffy kids being the last americans alive to fight it all oh "yeah"(wolfenstine)
legofanguyvid 1 year ago
In fact, I'd argue that this is actually cementing this perceived status of games as pretty much harmless, innocent toys of no actual value or merit besides being simplistic timewasters.
Anyway, I give it 30 years at least before anything starts to really change in the right direction. And it's going to get worse before it gets better. Much worse (and not necessarily only because of the controversies).
LordZabujca 1 year ago
This is one of the reasons why I'm sceptical about your optimistic reaction towards the rise of casual gaming - I mean, sure, technically you could say that more people are playing games, but there's a pretty big chasm between those games and, say, Six days in Fallujah. In fact, those casual gamers mostly stick to casual games, and I can't see how going from completely ignorant ("I dunno about video games") to painfully misinformed ("games = bejeweled / farmville or equivalent") is helping.
LordZabujca 1 year ago
@LordZabujca But, they are games. A different style, audience, and such, but still games.
FurubaGurl 1 year ago
Ah, but you see, this change of perception of games simply isn't happening untill pretty much the majority of people are gamers who actually see nothing wrong in playing serious games - the current critics would have to actually play and understand those games, which can be summed with "yeah, right".
LordZabujca 1 year ago
Here's a new branding video games can use: Interactive Narrative. It explains what they're about while removing the surprisingly pejorative moniker of "game."
AngelSwordAF 1 year ago
I really hate controversies like this. Six days in Fallujah should have been made, for the simple reason, it would bring the war and some of it's experiences to our living room.
I hate the fact that just because people put this "kiddie" stigmata on games, because they are just "games" this medium suddenly isnt allowed to openly explore serious subjects!
narutofanfic 1 year ago
I'm surprised this episode has the least amount of views. On the escapist, it has one of the most.
fauxman 1 year ago
"Fair and balanced discussion"
On FOX News? HAH.
lungpatrol 1 year ago
I hate how that bitch even says "video game."
OptiMystic8 1 year ago
that hole contraversy bulshit is just that bulshit! ok i get it theres a war where are young men are dying for us. thats ok. but shouldnt we expierece it? i mean wht would give u a better look on wht they go through? the edited shit on fox news? or expiriencing it in a game? maybe people wouldnt support war if they new wht really happens? tell me wht u think please
leebone98 1 year ago
games are bad.
MrChalian 1 year ago
video game is only a fictional ! SHIT !!! THOSE IMMATURE !!! HATING THE GAME !
cs9hikari 1 year ago
Whats really sad about this 'Six Days in Fallujah' game, if it had Call of Duty branded on it, it would have been released regardless.
TheBlueMnM 1 year ago 37
wow,
that was... beautiful
genuinely beautiful
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jayantasodekar 1 year ago
I agree there is an overall hypocrisy of this. It is amazing that many have to complain about this "war game" but then don't say anything of the constant swarm of WW2 games?
Akumatrunigga 1 year ago
Fox news is completely biased in their opinion about SIx Days. The interviewer cuts the captain guy off in the middle of his speech and passes the talk right away to the mother and lets her finish her whole story. The developer and captain's comments were way more convincing than the mother's but the reporter kept being a biased XXXX
soymilk885404 1 year ago
why is she smiling... she must have really hated her son
TheNewMetFan 1 year ago
3:11 "For a fair and balanced discussion" Haha not on Fox News
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aruniization 1 year ago
Now *I* want a green flag with the word GAMES emblazoned onto it in a darker shade of green.
SyxxPunk 1 year ago
Think about it, you can't blame all of societies problems on one specific area, but I think we need to start questioning the parents
ukxploder 1 year ago
What about cod COD and MOH they sure don't seem to care much for the people who died in WW2 it seems stupid that they disapprove of this game because is newER and easier to attack.
ZADER4427 1 year ago 3
Killing Nazis Yeahhh!
Killing Talibans Noooooo!
sala206 1 year ago 58
@sala206 actually, killing members of the Taliban is not a big deal either to most people. The idea of members of the Taliban killing U.S. Soldiers while the Taliban were being controlled by users in Multiplayer was the big deal over Medal of Honor. The controversy over Six Days was that it was such a recent war and many people had died in that war. Similar to what happened with Six Days, but not quite.
MrVoltySquirrel 1 year ago
@MrVoltySquirrel Ahh i see now, thanks for the info i never really got what the big fuzz was all about
sala206 1 year ago
@sala206 Pretending to kill anything: WHO GIVES A SHIT???? Thought control much?
bobjoemagee 1 year ago
@sala206 That is not the point and you probably even know that. Go and post bullsh*t on a Bieber video.
1p2o3i 11 months ago
@1p2o3i Its called sarcasm buddy
sala206 11 months ago
@sala206 Nazis are my favorite variety of video game monster because when you shoot a nazi you're doing the world a favor
ImpKicker 10 months ago
@ImpKicker But in actual games like CoD which do little to no historical research, they neglect to mention that not every German soldier was a nazi and most of them weren't.
USAForLife2057 10 months ago
@sala206 You missed the point of this review entirely.
USAForLife2057 10 months ago
@USAForLife2057 Thing is, i got a bigger dick.
sala206 10 months ago
@sala206 Uh huh.
USAForLife2057 10 months ago
@sala206 hmm. allso in medal of honor you whuld have got to play taliban.
gooddarkjedi 9 months ago
That fox report was bullshit and one sided.
Fox news is crap!....
...like usual. It is fox. : /
IQuarent 1 year ago
@IQuarent "Fair and balanced" MY ASSHOLE!
ReesesChannel 1 year ago
So, EA has caved in and pulled out the Taliban from MoH. Nice to see that so much has changed since 6 Days in Fallujah.
Sparrow476 1 year ago
That reminds me about Resident Evil 5 there was a HUGE controversy about them shooting "black" zombies. OH it was PERFECTLY ok to shoot white/America zombies, IT WAS EVEN FINE to go to Spain and shoot Spaniard "zombies" BUT OH once the color of the skin went brown OH NO! it was "racist" sorry um if your the undead it does not matter the color of the skin, zombies must die. so it's not racist it's zombie-ist. they just get so crazy with it
Callise 1 year ago 3
@Callise God I remember that. It's pretty funny and ironic since no one ever said jack-shit about Resident Evil 4 when you're playing as Leon going around shooting Hispanics XD
DJVirgoNeun 1 year ago
@DJVirgoNeun I KNOW! It's ok to shoot white/american zombies it's ok to shoot hispanics zombies...BUT the moment it became black zombies it was racist. I was like SERIOUSLY? if it's undead I don't care what color the skin is undead must go back to remaining dead.
Callise 1 year ago 5
@Callise As a black gamer I have to agree. The Cleveland Show is racist. Shooting zombies that happen to be black is not.
dapperfan44 1 year ago
@dapperfan44 Cleveland Show?
I'm glad you were not offended, it's like no matter the color of the skin if your a zombie you got to die...because we don't want zombies on the lawn.
Callise 1 year ago
@Callise Just some stupid show on Fox from the Family Guy dude. I don't like it. (yeah, from fox, irony. apparently video games are awful and damaging to kids, when many children are easily watching Family Guy which is far worse than anything in video games.)
dapperfan44 1 year ago
@dapperfan44 omg I hate adult cartoons, I don't get why everyone is so obsessed, the art is ugly, the voice acting is bad, and I don't even find them funny. YES it is very true since it's animated kids will automatically watch it...parents don't care..
Callise 1 year ago
OMG I hate that they try to blame video games for school shootings. It isn't the video games driving people to violence, it's how their living environments and how they are raised.
Callise 1 year ago
19 people are overly-conservative twits.
TuahShinguru 1 year ago
FUCK FOX NEWS
WhiteFox5Studios 1 year ago 77
@WhiteFox5Studios If it's Fox News, then there's no reason to take those clowns seriously. They're only as good as syndicated radio anyway. Just consider them to be the Wikipedia of TV, making shit up as they come along. XD
DJVirgoNeun 1 year ago
@WhiteFox5Studios hell yeah
GamekeeperX 1 year ago
@WhiteFox5Studios You know nothing about Fox News, idiot. How about you pay attention to the actual meaning of the video.
KeybladeMaster33 1 year ago
@KeybladeMaster33 u quickly jump to call me an idiot. i love kirithem and i have watched all his videos on escapist.com so sir, FUCK YOU. i also watch liberalviewer, AND everytime a video game seems to have a sliver of controversy fox news jumps on it. 6 days in falluja or however you spell it, would have been a great game, it was not going to be published to honor the men, but rather to educate the people who bought it. Dont be so quick to judge people. stop being a troll.
WhiteFox5Studios 1 year ago
@KeybladeMaster33 fox news also jumps on these games not because of the war it shows. but because its in a "game" the people and viewers of fox news dont understand that its not just a frieken "game" but rather, somthing we can learn from, while it also be entertaining at the same time.
WhiteFox5Studios 1 year ago
@KeybladeMaster33
Fox News is filled with biased uninformed ignoramuses who spend most of their time sucking their own cocks.
GhostLate 1 year ago
@GhostLate Oh, what oh so unbiased news channel do you watch. The people that say these things about Fox News don't know anything about it and are brain washed by liberal news channels beyond hope of repair. Don't bother replying because I really don't care what anyone else here has to say.
KeybladeMaster33 1 year ago
@KeybladeMaster33
Oh, that's right. Cup your hands over you ears and ignore what everyone else has to say.
How typical of someone who follows and respects Fox News. Of course, there's always going to be a certain level of bias in news stations, and the best you can do is pick the least biased one. MSNBC and Fox News are pretty bad, I prefer reading my news on CNN online on the internet. At least I don't have to deal with religious nutjobs and made-up statistics.
GhostLate 1 year ago
@KeybladeMaster33
It really is depressing knowing that people are pathetic enough to trust obviously biased news sources, which essentially cater to their every need - telling them exactly what they want to hear.
The point of a news program is to be as objective and as unbiased as possible, most news programs on TV are plain fuckwittery, but Fox News? They don't even try to hide their biases.
Love God? Hate gays? Love to suck other Republicans' pencil-dicks? Watch Fox News!
GhostLate 1 year ago
Oh btw...does anyone know what the "Haditha Incident" was about?
No?
Even heard about it once?
No?
Probably because it was one of the greatest shames of the US Armed Forces ever.
Haditha, wasn´t so much a battle, or a lost one at that.
It was a few marines, one IED, 2 dead guys and a whole lot of rage filling up in these soldiers.
They then stormed the nearest village, Haditha, and proceeded to KILL EVERYTHING THAT MOVED!
The Insurgents however, taped it, and used it as propaganda....
Chrinik 1 year ago
@Chrinik
Yet, they made a movie out of it "Battle for Haditha"...even highlighting the event from 3 sides...
The Insurgent, the Marines, AND one innocent victim who was going to marry soon...
It was very recently, it is about something people don´t want to talk about usually, it depicted young and misguided soldiers as what they really are when the superiors aren´t looking.
Now imagine making a GAME out of that...
It would never have been released.
Chrinik 1 year ago
Yeah, don´t go make movies or games about small scale battles so the people that stayed safely home get a fraction of what it was to be there....
Black Hawk Down? Platoon?
They are controversial because "OMFG I lost my son there, you inhuman bastards, how can you glorify such a battle!"
Yeah...and all the surviving soldiers totally go "These works are disrespectful to my comrades, who died in vain because noone fucking knows about it anyway..."
Chrinik 1 year ago
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fuck yes its a tribute
zePippin 1 year ago
Fair and balanced my ass.
gocrazed1 1 year ago
How is this game any more disrespectful then those @55holes that go to soilders' funnauls, with their ex."Burn in Hell" signs, and say that it's a good thing that they're dead?
J1P2K 1 year ago
I HATE FOX NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SuperMicklovin 1 year ago 5
"For a fair and balanced debate"
Yeah, right. I saw one of their "Fair and balanced" discussions about Mass Effect after they got worked up about the incredibly tame sex scene. Apparently the game was all about having sex with as many women as possible and was hardcore porn. Half the people who slate video games, don't even understand them.
Was Six Days in Fallujah ever released?
LostOddity 1 year ago
@LostOddity
Nope...hopefully will find a new publisher.
Chrinik 1 year ago
@LostOddity a wiki search of six days will lead to an IGN link that reports the game is finished and will be released.
dapperfan44 1 year ago
That ending was brilliant. If this was a movie that would probably be the part where the music swells up and some stone hearted character lets a single tear drop and at the end everyone applauds. I hope game designers see this and decide to follow suit. No more hiding when controversy hits behind the phrase "its just a game" but stand up to the term "art" and defend what you do.
the term "graphics novel" didn't make watchmen serious, it was the fact that Alan more would never say "just a comic"
videosfromderelix 1 year ago
It would be cool if they made a game about these dark themes that did a good job of making you feel for the people who fought or died (like with the holocaust) instead of fictionalizing real events into simple "good guys kill bad guys" stories like with saboteur.
videosfromderelix 1 year ago
Seriously there's nothing wrong with the game. I wouldn't know any thing about falujah or any other battle in Iraq until watching this vid and know bat the game. If ur son die. Well I'm sorry to hear and u shouldn't let him go in the first place. But I find most war games teaches me about history like cod waw or experience a soldier,s life.
QDL95 1 year ago
I actually never heard of this battle and especially it's importance, but if this game were to be published; i surely would have bought it. What the folks at Atomic did was right in my mind, i probably never would have know about this unless it were to have been made into a game...
iLoveLamp222 1 year ago
dude that interviewer was a huge ass BIOTCH. there's an article about it newsweek that's SO much better than stupid fox. people still get angry over historical events not be portrayed correctly in movies, too, so it's no big surprise.. pssh. typical. :|
selphiexfairy 1 year ago
so much win , thank you
Ekenssj 1 year ago