The main difference is The Niggers look like they pose a lethal or distracting threat to officers while The Officers are merely doing their jobs at keeping The public peace....
This logic would put The Officers in The know-how and The Niggers as criminals despite altercation and lethal force..
@XMasterDragon You fcuking NAZI's (libs) always , always , always use the argumentum ad hominem tactic ... ENDLESSLY because ya'll don't have two brain cells to rub together . The truth is right in front ; this thug in a costume stood up pulled his side arm and pulled the trigger killing an innocent human being or nigger as you call him . Stay in the peanut gallery where you are more suited to making macaroni neclaces and finger painting than having intelligent conversations. PISS OFF already
I hope he gets AIDS and gives it to his entire family but lives for a long time suffering....or he gets buttfucked and stuck like the pig he is. and then gets AIDS....
@jamespohh Fcuk them and you too , I don't suck dick . You do and that's your business . Just make sure you gargle with Listerine when you're done ... dick breath :)
Cop was in the wrong. I'll take police mistakes (with the officers being prosecuted) over roaming gangs of niggers any day of the week. If a cop is going to accidentally shoot someone why is it never during a chimp out?
@brocksampson01 In English the word 'your' implies ownership. I do not own a pussy. Where as 'you're' implies 'you are'. Your insight into my soul is truly fascinating.
so if i say "oops i meant to whip my dick out to take a piss but accidentally stuck it in a "rape victim" it will hold up in court?? Pffft, fuck the cops, fuck the law, fuck'em all
Get ready L.A. for another round of murderous riots when the economic collapse happens . Innocent white people are goingto die because of these evil mother fuckers acts . I don't understand how the good cops can stand around and watch this kind of abuse of force and go home and sleep it off . Well you good cops might think you're clean but you are part of the problem when you don't do anything about it . Shame on all of you .
People: Fascism, enhance police powers from the Government in the name of fear, and the force first mentality by police will always lead to the brutalizing & killing of citizens, (the different, the oppressed, the sick, the poor, the weak, the politically different, "and then one day You, Your Family"! Fascism is why we fought WW-2 & Millions Died! Where were at today is where Germany was in the early 1930's, (study fascism & history). "Your freedom / life is in danger, Wake Up"!!
@48alfaone I'm with you brother . This shit ain't gonna hold up for much longer . Economic collapes is going to happen within the next year or two . The cops won't get paid they'll quit and be right in the trenches with us when mashal law is declared . Btu what will they pay the military with ? Anarchy (libertarians thrive in it) and mayhem will ensue on a worldwide scale . All of you prepare to defend yourselves against anyone useing lethal force if nessasary . Read Sun Zu's "The Art of War" .
@fabianstraregy I agree friend, Super Pain is coming & sadly that's what it will take to wake the people up! Sadly as well, I believe the police, then military will harm tens of thousands of citizens before they to wake up! After WW-2 thousands of ex Nazi police were torn to shreds & killed by plain old middle class Germans who lived in fear, terror & war for 10 long years, and it was caused by them themselves politically sleeping while fascism & extra police powers took hold. "History Repeats"!
@48alfaone Hello A 1 who ever started the "I don't discuss religion or politics" business ? Sure people get into arguments when their's a disagreement but that is how we get moving towards the truth . Anyway it says in one of those Hosea: chapters/paragraphs " My people perish for lack of knowledge ". Countless millions hurtling towards their doom ... clueless . That indeed is sad . But a remnant will survive . I count you and I as part of that remnant . Semper Paratus (always ready)
Micheal Vick is sentenced two years for killing dogs, and a cop who took an innocent black man's life is sentenced for one year. Damn, that's symbolism in itself.
This is a perfect example of when you put authority in a wreckless man's hand-- they will take advantage of that power.
@4jiz You can't run . This is the last stand for freedom . When you fight for your own freedom you fight for all of us. Some have already died and more are going to ...Dranch Davidians , half of Randy Weaver's family , Oscar Grant , Kelly Thomas , the "Move" group of Philedelphia Pa to name a few . It's like newly weds being the same temperment , having the same physical weight and then decades later the man has become this rabid 800 lbs gorilla ... RABID . WELCOME to the new world order .Fight
Black man is seen on camera pointing his hand as if he's holding a gun: arrested in minutes, its called an open and shut case, trial is expedited to within several days of the incident, and he gets life in prison
Cop is caught from 4 different camera angles killing a man in cold blood: takes days to arrest the guy, police commissioner says its "inconclusive" and "needs more investigation", it takes an entire year to put him on trial... and he spends less than a year in the pen.
@TheQuizzy92 If you're speechless then don't say anything stupid. Michael Vick's killings were p-r-e-m-e-d-i-t-a-t-e-d. That means, for you half brains, he had clear and multiple intentions of cruelty by fighting dogs to death or mutilation and even killing some with his bare hands. If you think the bart shooting was premeditated, then you are a racist
He was comfortable on the court room stage because he knew thefix was in. He would never be convicted of murder even though he murdered a man in fullview of the platform full of people/ NAME one cop who has not walked away from any charge. The ones who get caught are exonerfied because of some pretext that would have the jury rolling in the box with laughter were it me or you on trial. Fuck him and send this murdering swine to a prison with no separation. Let justice be done and done again.
@scampbell1955 That is lawlessness . IN FULL VEIW OF A PLATFORM FULL OF PEOPLE . And they think people will for get that kind of lawlessness . The courts , the cops , andthe lawyers have engaged in lawlessness . Small wonder when the polpulation at large explodes .
cops wear a gun every day they're on duty and he "forgot" that wasn't a taser? really? if you believe that I have a great deal for you. no checks, cash and in small bills.
So many people really think this was intentional? Please, read this post, do some independent research, and apply some basic common sense. Look past your hatred, your paranoia, and your racism. Sorry for the numerous posts, but necessary given the character limit. This is meant to be read from top down. I am not a cop, in fact my main focus in life is the protection of the individual against the state.
@ssn708 No ones gives a dam about you research. The videos speak for it self and so does the people. So enough with the brainwashing fairy tales. The People looking at the videos with their own eyes can judge for themselves and the majority has spoken. Bottom line, here r d facts: 1. a group of ego, racist, steroid, bullying, monster looking cops, 2) black man targeted 3) police brutality initiated, 4) cold blooded murder end result. Evil is. Love don't kill. End of story.
@BeneIsrael Your comment speaks volumes about the level of your ignorance. "No one gives a damn about your research" (otherwise known as facts) "We all saw the video" (otherwise known as speculation without fact).
@ssn708 Who are you calling ignorant?? Don't judge me. You don't know me. You are a fool. You think you know it all but don't. You remind me of the story THE EMPEROR WITH NO CLOTHES ON. All the people could see he was naked but that fool thought he had clothes on. THAT's YOU!!!!! Wake UP!!! Don't be so foolish.
@ssn708 BenIsrael has told you all you need to know about what we all saw . that "spin doctor" voodoo does'nt work anymore . The information super highway has blown all the spin out of the water . Living a delusional life is a wasted life . Always live with the truth and you'll be alright .
@fabianstraregy It's actually called research, fact, and common sense, not "spin". The information super highway is what gives you the ability to actually research and learn the truth, but instead you simply watch a youtube video and spout ignorance based on what you think you saw instead of actually educating yourself and learning. I began my research thinking this was murder. Facts, research, actually spending more than 5 seconds to reach a conclusion prove otherwise. Give it a shot some time.
@ssn708 Me and Bene Israel have given you all the info you need to know and you still don't . Gov't schools have fcuked you up so bad that theirs no hope for you . You're toast dude . BYE
I’ve researched this case and seen every video. I’ve read testimony. I’ve researched both the M26 (and X26) taser and Sig Sauer .40 cal Mehserle had that night, and the differences and similarities between the two. I have investigated Mehserle’s history as well as Grant’s. I know more than I should not being directly affiliated with the case, but I began researching this as a midterm project, I am studying law and I thought I had found the perfect example of an abuse of power. I was wrong.
You have to look at all the videos, because none give a clear picture on their own. After being forcefully placed on the ground (for grabbing officer Dominici by the arm and kneeing Pirone in the groin) and ordered to remain seated, Grant tried to stand up. Obviously police take this as hostile, especially in light of the hostility already shown by Grant. Bryson and Grant were under arrest because they were the only two that physically assaulted officers.
@ssn708 You're nothing but a gov't groveller .When you get your fucking lawyer job then you can commence to really fucking over your fellow citizens in earnest . Well I guess it's like they say --- question :''How can you tell when a lawyer is lieing ? answer: '' When his lips are moving '' . Research that asshole , under "lawyer jokes'' . That means you'll fit right in . Oscar did not even touch any of the officers we all can see that . Even a brain dead muppet could see that .
The fact that Grant was on the leg of Carlos would not have prevented the control and restraint of Grant’s hands, especially the left hand, which was nowhere near Carlos and which he placed under his body. It also would not have caused Grant to try to roll to his right to avoid being cuffed. He was clearly resisting, starting with standing up when told to remain seated. Again, this was after already assaulting 2 officers, which is what found him under arrest.
Video shows Oscar only took his left hand out from under his body AS Mehserle drew, and was moving it towards his back AS the shot was fired. Furthermore Mehserle clearly shouted “I’m tasing him” as he was standing and drawing, to which Grant responded “Don’t tase me”. This is why he finally decided to move his hands to his back, and why Pirone stepped back. This was testified to by some of Grant’s own friends, and heard clearly on the tape played in court.
Grant had been tased before during one of his 12 arrests in 4 years, so the threat got his attention. In fact, you can still see his left hand moving toward his back as the muzzle blast appears. Some say after the shot Mehserle is trying to cuff him. Anyone with observational skills would recognize that Mehserle is in fact applying pressure to the wound, administering the only first aid he can. They likely cuffed him at some point after he was shot, that is actually standard.
Mehserle had almost no training with a taser. BART police had just received tasers shortly prior, had absolutely no policy on taser placement, and officers often shared belts. In fact, Mehserle received his mid-shift as I understand. He did, however, have considerable experience firing his sidearm, as any officer does. The real proof, as much as his SAYING “I’m tasing him”, are his actions with his sidearm.
No one who has fired a .40 cal would fire straight down, against a target with a hard surface behind it. Anyone who has fired a gun of that caliber has to know that, regardless how you feel on this case. Police take EXTENSIVE courses on ballistics. Ricochet could kill you or the other officers nearby, or the people on the train. In fact, it was the ricochet that killed Grant, the bullet went through the LOWER back, hit the floor, came back through the lung. No way he took that shot on purpose.
@ssn708 dude, i think if he was hasty enough to mistake a light tazer for a heavy gun, then he was definetly hasty enough to forget his ballistics training. so that point is forfeit.
Also, when the video is slowed you can see that Mehserle only had one hand on the gun at the time it was fired. The gun actually hit his left hand and sent it flying towards his face! No one who has fired a .40 cal would intentionally fire with that grip. In fact, the grip safety should have prevented the gun from even being able to fire! This can all clearly be seen by looking up “Video proof that Mehserle thought he was firing his taser”. The site is flopping aces dot net.
People who know Mehserle say he was just a big dumb oaf. They said if there was a way to screw things up, Mehserle would find it. No one who actually knew him was surprised he shot someone that he intended to tase. I know of 8 suspects who police intended to tase but accidentally shot, it doesn’t take a lot to find the cases online. Nearly all of them were either Latino or White. It does happen; especially when you mix scared with dumb.
There is anger in this case. There is outrage. And there damn well should be. A man (NOT an innocent man, a man guilty of numerous crimes that night alone) was shot and he should not have been. He’s dead and he should not be. There is a girl without a daddy, and that never should have been. But this was criminally negligent homicide, as the jury found. Mehserle is no murderer and Grant certainly is no martyr. He was no peace maker. He was a violent, career criminal.
As contemptible as it is, there are abuses by the police. There are murders by police. We cannot turn a blind eye to these things. They happen and they cannot be tolerated. Fong Lee is a great example few have heard about. However, by calling something a murder that was not, we lessen the atrocities that actually occur daily. Don’t do that in the name of furthering an agenda, you do your agenda more harm than good.
@ssn708 all i gatta say is, my dads a cop, and he sat here and watched this.. he even said "how the fuck does a TRAINED COP, confuse a taser , with a handgun?" point a) a handgun outweights a tasergun, by ALOT.. one is plastic, and rubber, and the other is fucking steel.point blank, the cop got frustrated and got caught .. i wonder how many other people he shot and got away with it... the mugshots show proof his guilty.. one cop smiling didnt hve anything to worry about... him grinning, he did!
@Hkhan23 They are an actual police department, same as any other precinct, and are therefore required to carry a gun. They can arrest you anywhere in the state of California, pull you over, etc.
most fuckin disgusting thing i have ever seen.. ok so this huggable guy is a moron not a killer? oh i meant to taze him.. oopps... the hell kinda of defense is that for ending someones life!
its in their barbaric nature to hate, envy and kill. be safe out their they will not stop. protect your mind, body and spirit from the real terrorists.
He needed to taze a handcuffed guy laying on his stomach? fuck that pig!!! grant was probably givin the pig an earfull then the pig shot him. piece of shit murderer
@ItsElliottIdiot Oscar Grant was not handcuffed when he was shot. Had he simply allowed himself to have been handcuffed, there would have been no need for Mehserle to feel he needed to tase him, and in his stupidity and panic, pull the wrong weapon. Piece of shit? Who knows, maybe he is. Murderer, nope, not by a long shot. This was crimnally negligent homicide, just as the jury found. Dumb fuck cop meets dumb fuck career criminal, nothing more or less.
Fuck that dirty ass cop. Bullshit, he knew what he was pullin out I hate cops that take advantage of their badge and think they can do what the fuck they want.
@GODHATESFAGSSSSSS Oh riiight. Everyone knows how "brave" it is to shoot someone in the back who is lying face down on the ground. You're an idiot. You gotta be a 12 yr old troll or something. Any way you look at it you're a loser.
@GODHATESFAGSSSSSS That piece of garbage a hero? That's an absolutely disgusting thing to say. Oh, bty when you are over the top anti gay like your screen name suggests, it probably means your gay. What's wrong guy? Like men but can't tell anyone? Hate yourself for wanting to sleep with men? You fail at life and should kill yourself asap. Make sure and get your whole head in front of the shotgun please.
i respect immortal technique's little brother,eternal technique, for being the only artist to speak up about what happen to oscar grant on that "african slave blood" song....none of these other so-called "caring" urban artist said shit!
@blakasassin1 YEAH IF U CLEARLY LOOK @ THE VID U CAN SEE WHEN THE GUN FIRED HE WAS LIKE WTF?>??? BUT I THINK HE HAS TO PAY FOR KILLING AN INOCENT PERSON NOW MANSLAUGHTER IS A LIL LITELY!! I THINK HE DESERVES ABOUT 15 YEARS
He enjoy talking to people, that's why He wanted to be a Cop??? are you fucking serious? try custumer service at walmart you soon to be the most wanted man in oakland, wait both jobs, require just a high school diploma or a GED, so with a little more effort, you might've gotten the walmart position, you MF pig.
I know this man personally and gaurantee the incident was accidental. Its true there is decades of built of tensions that we are all affected by, but that doesn't mean that every action that could possibly represent them does. By the way, I'm black, I pray for the kids family, and I have compassion for Johannes who IS a kind man despite popular belief. Maybe the kid should have been less confrontational...
@mkyle24 It's amazing that in this country it's acceptable to blame the victim. What if your wife or daughter got raped? You gonna blame them too? What if your son or brother was the one shot? I bet you'd change your tune pretty quick. You know this piece of garbage cop personally? You gotta be a cop. Only a cop would say something that fucking dumb. I sincerely hope someone shoots him in his pig snout face now that he's out. Have a good LIFE douche.
I'm sorry to hear so much hate in your response. It's exactly that energy that needs compassion to heal. A cop? no...just very regretful that such a horrible thing can happen to two good human beings. I believe you are projecting into my words, damageinc40. I am not blaming the kid. Johannes made a mistake and he has taken responsibility for it, and that is what I said. After, I mentioned that everyone involved was responsible. This is true self responsibility... kindness heals
@mkyle24 Even if you are black you sound very confused. You say you have compassion but in the end you blame it on the kid. Since when does a person being confrontational justify death? So is that the new law now? " Don't confront me or I may KILL you"? What kind of thinking is that??? That's a SLAVE mentality.
What I think happened here- he got ticked off with the guy for giving them trouble to restrain him,& without giving it full thought & consumed with anger/annoyance/disgust,decided to stop his resistance with a shot in the back.
Things like this happen because there's not much intuitive restraint in the use of deadly force by police officers, because of the understood and evidenced truth that they're above the law, and they know it.
I don't think it was muder, but certainly is manslaughter.
Would that excuse of mistaking the gun for something else, hold water if this was a group of civilians, and one with a licensed firearm, restraining a criminal or home-invader, with this same outcome? I think not.
He shouted "I'm tasing him" to throw suspicion, stood to give everyone a good view, held the gun in a way NO ONE with training would (& grip safety should have prevented), shot in a completely NON-VITAL area of the back, calculating ricochet to pierce Grant's lung while not being a danger to him or the other cops feet away, let the recoil hit his hand and send it flying towards his face, faked a look of shock and horror, all to execute a stranger for no reason.
An 8 oz weight difference between the taser and gun makes no difference, especially in a panic situation. Mehserle intended to tase. Look up "Video proof mehserle thought he was firing a taser". Not only would Mehsrele not have fired without both hands on his gun, the grip safety should have prevented him from even being able to fire the gun. Being as he had extensive firearm practice (and next to zero taser training), he would know he had to grip firmly with both hands to even be able to shoot.
Mehserle shouted "I'm tasing him" to throw off suspicion,stood up to make sure everyone had a much better view,masked his actions to be consistent with a taser and inconsistent with firing a gun,fired into a completely NON-VITAL area of Grant's back calculating the angle of ricochet to pierce Grant's lung(but not risk his safety or that of other officers),fakes a look of shock and horror, to execute a complete stranger for no reason. My God! You're a fucking GENIUS!
@jettech510 His hands were not "voluntarily" behind his back. They spent 30 seconds wrestling with him, and once Mehserle shouted "I'm tasing him" he lost his will to fight. You see, Grant had been tased before the last time he resisted arrest. Grant even shouted "Don't tase me". Hmm. CLEARLY Mehserle intended to tase, and clearly you have no concept of truth or reality.
@jettech510 How the hell do you think the two are mutually exclusive? What he said is "I thought he was going for a gun". He also ahouted "I'm tasing him" prior to standing up and firing! The two are not even remotely exclusive. He intended to tase him BECAUSE he thought he was going for a weapon, when he kept putting his hands under his body. Sorry you c an not handle the truth, or are simply too stupid to realize it.
@jettech510 MORON, as I have told you on several sites, he is looking down, while the weapon is STILL IN ITS HOLSTER!! All he could possibly see is his own hand and part of a black rubber handle, which both his gun AND taser had!! But you can't answer why he tugged numerous times to get it out. Had he intended to draw his gun, he would have simply unlatched the catch, not tugged time and time again until it came loose! Why did he keep tugging? Because he thought it was his TASER!
@jettech510 Still spreading ignorance and lies? The jury was not given proper instruction regarding the gun enhancement. They were instructed that if it was found that a gun was used in commission of a felony, that the gun enhancement qualified. They were not instructed that the crime had to be "intentional" by the statute. If they did as you claim, that would be grounds for a very successful appeal. They would have just acquitted him instead. Precedent was already set by convicting him.
All you idiots saying he meant to draw the taser just shut up pls...Nationally the taser is on the left side and is a cross draw, which means the handle is pointed towards your front side, you have to reach across for it. Opposite of the firearm. My parents are both officers and they just commented on this appalling video and defense tactic of confusion. He knew what he was doing, whether he had thought it through we will never know but he knew all too well that black man would die.
I didn't wish anything, I said I was glad. Considering how many white people are robbed, mudered and raped by blacks every damned day, I just feel that much better when theres one less to worry about.
BTW, anyone who thinks that he intentionally shot that clown in front of all those people should have their head examined. These people should know that when you act all stupid and crazy you not only provoke people, but cause confusion that leads to incidents like this.
If you really fed up with the casualties that our community is taking get up and do something about it. Anti-war rally Nov. 13th DC March on the white house to tell the negro in charge that he needs to stop overseeing the war on his own people and other peoples of the world! Join the Uhuru Movement and Black is Back and get ORGANIZED 4 Social Justice, Peace, and Reparations!
@adothekid yes your right a small majority of black people are lazy. a large majority of white people are racist, in the back of the white mind I'm sure there are racist slurs. From your comment i would assume your not AA. I doubt you have been fed any information about the history of black people in America, except for that in history books, made by white men, the 90% of slaves that were mistreated isn't talked about. Japanese mistreatment in WWII cant be put in the same category as the slaves
Another injustice by the system. I believe that the officer purposly drew his weapon and fired. How could a jury say manslauter. Manslaughter is accidental. He accidentily drew his weapon, then accidently pulled the trigger. The government is corrupt. People wake up. They violate their own laws. Like Bush said "You are either with us or against us." I am against your lieing murdering kind. Your reward waits for you a-holes. May your journey be swift.
@bugsz1 A jury could say manslaughter because it was proven beyond any logical contradiction that this was an accident. There is a litany of evidence proving it an accident, and literally nothing indicating the opposite.
@bugsz1 So, according to you, Mehserle shouted "I'm tasing him" to hide his intent, stood up to give dozens of witnesses a much better view, masked his actions to be consistent with a taser and inconsistent with a gun, fired into a NON-VITAL are of Grant's back, calculated the ricochet to pierce Grant's lung while not being a threat to himself or other officers, all to execute a complete stranger in public for no reason?
Wow, you're a genius! How on Earth did a jury miss all that?
@ssn708 NON-VITAL????? He died numbnuts. If Mesherle is so innocent, why did he not cooperate with Internal Affairs??? How on Earth did you miss that one genius?
@joelcrouch Yes, NON-VITAL, you dipshit. The area where Grant was shot was a NON-VITAL area of the back, exactly where one would aim a taser. It was RICOCHET that caused the bullet to pierce Grant's lung. It was ricochet that would have also prevented him from intentionally drawing a gun in the first place, further proof he intended to tase. He didn't refuse to cooperate with Internal Affairs, HE QUIT HIS JOB, genius. Try again.
@ssn708 He quit, so he wouldn't have to cooperate with Internal Affairs. Why don't you get that???? Are you a cop lover??? Again do you think justice was served here? It's simple question, and I expect a simple answer.
@joelcrouch You have proven time and again you know literally nothing. You have proven it perfectly yet again with your last two posts. And who the fuck cares what you "expect"? A "Kill shot" is center mass. This was in the lower back. If a cop intended to fire a gun, we would aim for center mass. He also would not fire directly downward against a hard surface. He would not fire with other officers in near proximity. He intended to tase him. It's been proven, you just are too dim to get that.
@ssn708 I think you hit it right on the head. No one gives a *FUCK* what you think. You are obviously biased toward cops. I just hope Mesherle gets what he deserves.
@joelcrouch Actually, I am biased against cops. I just call bullshit on dipshits like you that detract from actual cases of police brutality and corruption by your spreading lies and BS over what was proven beyond logical contradiction to have been an accident.. You are just not intelligent enough to get it, and that is very sad for you.
@ssn708 There is a good reason why I called you numb nuts. Any shot to the torso or the head is considered a "kill" shot. Mesherle meant to kill Oscar. He was probably even hoping for the RICOCHET to guarantee that the dirty deed gets done. I hope someone gets to Mesherle in prison soon. What a complete waste of oxygen.
@bugsz1 Ah yes, he shouted "I'm tasing him" to throw off suspicion, stood to give dozens of witnesses a clear view, masked his actions to be wholly consistent with a taser and inconsistent with a gun, fired into a NON-VITAL area of Grant's lower back, calculated angle of ricochet to pierce Grant's lung while not endangering himself or other officers, faked a look of shock and horror, all to execute a complete stranger. How on Earth did a jury miss all that?
@bugsz1 Not all manslaughter is accidental, involuntary manslaughter is, and that is exactly what this was. He shouted "I'm tasing him" prior to drawing. No officer would fire in that close proximity to other officers. No officer would intentionally fire downward against a hard surface standing above the point of impact, the risk of ricochet (which is actually what killed Grant, as the bullet went in a NON-VITAL area of the back) shooting himself or other officers would be way too high.
he was given INVOLUNTARY manslaughter on top of that. The fucking pig was given the least amount of punishment other than being completely acquitted. Sentenced to 2 yrs. Thats how much our lives our worth? 2 years? If it were a black cop killing a white kid, jury would've said murder with 15 to life in prison
@PHILLYHEAT215 Bullshit. If it were a Black cop killing a White kid, it wouldn't have even made the news. He was convicted of involuntary manslaughter because that is exactly what it was, a negligent homicide, NOT murder! This was very clearly proven. It was Mehserle's intention to tase, not shoot. Proven fact.
Bullshit. The modern tasers that Mehserle had is half the weight of the standard firearm issued to the cops in Oakland. Also, there is a picture taken by Oscar Grant moments before he died showing Mehserle holding his taser and proving that Mehserle was familiar with the taser and the firearm. Mehserle got away with murder. period.
@PHILLYHEAT215 The weight difference between the M26 taser and the sig sauer .40 cal is about 8 ounces. Hardly a substantial difference, and it doesn't matter in the least since he panicked. Panic robs you of reason. It is 100% proven FACT he intended to tase. You are completely wrong if you think he murdered someone in front of dozens of witnesses for no reason. Period. He was convicted of exactly what this was, involuntary, accidental, criminally negligent homicide, NOT murder.
You use the word "fact" unjustly. It is not a fact, you have no idea what that man's intentions were, only Mehserle. And I've held a taser & a .40 cal glock before and there is a substantial difference. And even if his intentions were to tase, he had no reason to tase Oscar Grant considering he was already subdued by at least 2 officers.
@PHILLYHEAT215 Yes, it is an absolute FACT, one that was 100% proven and is wholly verifiable. He had plenty of reason to tase. Grant had already assaulted two officers, was resisting arrest and refusing to give his hands, while about a dozen people on the platf
You know they didn't put that pig in general population.
82BlackPower 1 week ago
I fucking hate the police
iVibrationHD 1 month ago
Police are the biggest gang
GalBettaNoe 1 month ago
That cop is a straight demon.
jojo24love 1 month ago
The main difference is The Niggers look like they pose a lethal or distracting threat to officers while The Officers are merely doing their jobs at keeping The public peace....
This logic would put The Officers in The know-how and The Niggers as criminals despite altercation and lethal force..
XMasterDragon 4 months ago
@XMasterDragon You fcuking NAZI's (libs) always , always , always use the argumentum ad hominem tactic ... ENDLESSLY because ya'll don't have two brain cells to rub together . The truth is right in front ; this thug in a costume stood up pulled his side arm and pulled the trigger killing an innocent human being or nigger as you call him . Stay in the peanut gallery where you are more suited to making macaroni neclaces and finger painting than having intelligent conversations. PISS OFF already
fabianstraregy 2 months ago
Have fun in prison, butt fuck.
policechaser 4 months ago 4
@policechaser He already got out of prison
stevebuscemi6 2 months ago
@stevebuscemi6 Well, that too god damn bad; the prick deserved more time than that.
policechaser 2 months ago
@policechaser He only did 2 years, and some guy who made a threat to the cops life ended up doing 3 years. Its bull shit I know.
stevebuscemi6 2 months ago
I hope he gets AIDS and gives it to his entire family but lives for a long time suffering....or he gets buttfucked and stuck like the pig he is. and then gets AIDS....
N0ENEMIES 4 months ago
I hope he gets AIDS and gives it to his entire family but lives for a long time suffering....or he gets buttfucked and stuck like the pig he is.
N0ENEMIES 4 months ago
who agrees if you were to shoot an innocent person you would get life in jail
erickt94c 4 months ago
Mexican. Smh
sambam2694 5 months ago
WOW this reporter blinks a lot!!!
WireZombie253 5 months ago
@WireZombie253 hahaha
LilBo10 5 months ago
another pea brained moron cop. this one looks like a cross dresser
bradq 5 months ago
Fuck that shit, white cops are always killing black people.
PDigital2o3 5 months ago
@PDigital2o3 Uh.....try behaving nicely in public and you won't get fucked over by cops. It's that simple.
jamespohh 5 months ago 2
@jamespohh Fcuk them and you too , I don't suck dick . You do and that's your business . Just make sure you gargle with Listerine when you're done ... dick breath :)
fabianstraregy 2 months ago
@PDigital2o3 Uh.....try behaving nicely in public and you won't get fucked over by cops. It's that simple.
jamespohh 5 months ago
The "we're only human," card seems to get played when it suits them. I guess the rest of us aren't.
crispycritterz 5 months ago
Yhuu Can feel Thaa Difference from a Tazer and a Gun in the Video it showed him look at the gun and Grant , Fc Thaa Cops
JosephV2 5 months ago
I cannot believe the BS comments defending this murdering scum, fuck that!
Calgold49 5 months ago
them cops look criminally insane
bradq 6 months ago
Cop was in the wrong. I'll take police mistakes (with the officers being prosecuted) over roaming gangs of niggers any day of the week. If a cop is going to accidentally shoot someone why is it never during a chimp out?
foozybearz 6 months ago
@foozybearz your a pussy.
brocksampson01 6 months ago
@brocksampson01 In English the word 'your' implies ownership. I do not own a pussy. Where as 'you're' implies 'you are'. Your insight into my soul is truly fascinating.
foozybearz 6 months ago
so if i say "oops i meant to whip my dick out to take a piss but accidentally stuck it in a "rape victim" it will hold up in court?? Pffft, fuck the cops, fuck the law, fuck'em all
aesopk 6 months ago 3
Get ready L.A. for another round of murderous riots when the economic collapse happens . Innocent white people are goingto die because of these evil mother fuckers acts . I don't understand how the good cops can stand around and watch this kind of abuse of force and go home and sleep it off . Well you good cops might think you're clean but you are part of the problem when you don't do anything about it . Shame on all of you .
fabianstraregy 6 months ago 2
@brucebannerization agreed
fabianstraregy 6 months ago
@brucebannerization Yep . Maybe that whole force is rabid don't cha know .
fabianstraregy 6 months ago 2
People: Fascism, enhance police powers from the Government in the name of fear, and the force first mentality by police will always lead to the brutalizing & killing of citizens, (the different, the oppressed, the sick, the poor, the weak, the politically different, "and then one day You, Your Family"! Fascism is why we fought WW-2 & Millions Died! Where were at today is where Germany was in the early 1930's, (study fascism & history). "Your freedom / life is in danger, Wake Up"!!
48alfaone 6 months ago 4
@48alfaone I'm with you brother . This shit ain't gonna hold up for much longer . Economic collapes is going to happen within the next year or two . The cops won't get paid they'll quit and be right in the trenches with us when mashal law is declared . Btu what will they pay the military with ? Anarchy (libertarians thrive in it) and mayhem will ensue on a worldwide scale . All of you prepare to defend yourselves against anyone useing lethal force if nessasary . Read Sun Zu's "The Art of War" .
fabianstraregy 6 months ago 3
@fabianstraregy I agree friend, Super Pain is coming & sadly that's what it will take to wake the people up! Sadly as well, I believe the police, then military will harm tens of thousands of citizens before they to wake up! After WW-2 thousands of ex Nazi police were torn to shreds & killed by plain old middle class Germans who lived in fear, terror & war for 10 long years, and it was caused by them themselves politically sleeping while fascism & extra police powers took hold. "History Repeats"!
48alfaone 6 months ago 3
@48alfaone Hello A 1 who ever started the "I don't discuss religion or politics" business ? Sure people get into arguments when their's a disagreement but that is how we get moving towards the truth . Anyway it says in one of those Hosea: chapters/paragraphs " My people perish for lack of knowledge ". Countless millions hurtling towards their doom ... clueless . That indeed is sad . But a remnant will survive . I count you and I as part of that remnant . Semper Paratus (always ready)
fabianstraregy 6 months ago
@fabianstraregy Thanks my Brother!!
48alfaone 6 months ago 2
he likes taking to people.....yes...the speaks 9mm bullets. Murderer
47Roninek 6 months ago 3
@47Roninek Spot on baby . He talks with bullets trucheons and his fist .
fabianstraregy 6 months ago
I was speechless when I saw this video.
Micheal Vick is sentenced two years for killing dogs, and a cop who took an innocent black man's life is sentenced for one year. Damn, that's symbolism in itself.
This is a perfect example of when you put authority in a wreckless man's hand-- they will take advantage of that power.
Some country.
TheQuizzy92 6 months ago 15
@TheQuizzy92 F the USA, want to move with me?
4jiz 6 months ago 3
@4jiz You can't run . This is the last stand for freedom . When you fight for your own freedom you fight for all of us. Some have already died and more are going to ...Dranch Davidians , half of Randy Weaver's family , Oscar Grant , Kelly Thomas , the "Move" group of Philedelphia Pa to name a few . It's like newly weds being the same temperment , having the same physical weight and then decades later the man has become this rabid 800 lbs gorilla ... RABID . WELCOME to the new world order .Fight
fabianstraregy 6 months ago
@4jiz F the U.S.gov't I'm all over that brother jiz . How've you been anyway?
fabianstraregy 2 months ago
@TheQuizzy92 agreed
fabianstraregy 6 months ago
@TheQuizzy92
Black man is seen on camera pointing his hand as if he's holding a gun: arrested in minutes, its called an open and shut case, trial is expedited to within several days of the incident, and he gets life in prison
Cop is caught from 4 different camera angles killing a man in cold blood: takes days to arrest the guy, police commissioner says its "inconclusive" and "needs more investigation", it takes an entire year to put him on trial... and he spends less than a year in the pen.
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DUSK4YOU 1 month ago
@TheQuizzy92 If you're speechless then don't say anything stupid. Michael Vick's killings were p-r-e-m-e-d-i-t-a-t-e-d. That means, for you half brains, he had clear and multiple intentions of cruelty by fighting dogs to death or mutilation and even killing some with his bare hands. If you think the bart shooting was premeditated, then you are a racist
DUSK4YOU 1 month ago
He was comfortable on the court room stage because he knew thefix was in. He would never be convicted of murder even though he murdered a man in fullview of the platform full of people/ NAME one cop who has not walked away from any charge. The ones who get caught are exonerfied because of some pretext that would have the jury rolling in the box with laughter were it me or you on trial. Fuck him and send this murdering swine to a prison with no separation. Let justice be done and done again.
scampbell1955 6 months ago 3
@scampbell1955 That is lawlessness . IN FULL VEIW OF A PLATFORM FULL OF PEOPLE . And they think people will for get that kind of lawlessness . The courts , the cops , andthe lawyers have engaged in lawlessness . Small wonder when the polpulation at large explodes .
fabianstraregy 6 months ago
cops wear a gun every day they're on duty and he "forgot" that wasn't a taser? really? if you believe that I have a great deal for you. no checks, cash and in small bills.
37butterflyprincess 7 months ago 2
fucking faggot ass pig
AegrusAeris 7 months ago
Kill his baby and his girl fuck this honkie
DatBoiUda 7 months ago
@DatBoiUda oooouuuch
fabianstraregy 6 months ago
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pussy ass cracka i hope he burns in hell with the rest of his kin
DatBoiUda 7 months ago
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FUCK THIS BITCH ASS WHITE FUCKING PIG, IF HE EVERRRR GETS RELEASED HE WILL BE KILLED BY ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HATE HIM
NorCal4Life925breh 7 months ago
So many people really think this was intentional? Please, read this post, do some independent research, and apply some basic common sense. Look past your hatred, your paranoia, and your racism. Sorry for the numerous posts, but necessary given the character limit. This is meant to be read from top down. I am not a cop, in fact my main focus in life is the protection of the individual against the state.
ssn708 7 months ago
@ssn708 No ones gives a dam about you research. The videos speak for it self and so does the people. So enough with the brainwashing fairy tales. The People looking at the videos with their own eyes can judge for themselves and the majority has spoken. Bottom line, here r d facts: 1. a group of ego, racist, steroid, bullying, monster looking cops, 2) black man targeted 3) police brutality initiated, 4) cold blooded murder end result. Evil is. Love don't kill. End of story.
BeneIsrael 7 months ago 2
@BeneIsrael Your comment speaks volumes about the level of your ignorance. "No one gives a damn about your research" (otherwise known as facts) "We all saw the video" (otherwise known as speculation without fact).
ssn708 2 months ago
@ssn708 Who are you calling ignorant?? Don't judge me. You don't know me. You are a fool. You think you know it all but don't. You remind me of the story THE EMPEROR WITH NO CLOTHES ON. All the people could see he was naked but that fool thought he had clothes on. THAT's YOU!!!!! Wake UP!!! Don't be so foolish.
BeneIsrael 2 months ago
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You are the voice of reason, sir.
mkyle24 7 months ago
@mkyle24 And you're one of the lambs for slaughter ... sadly .
fabianstraregy 6 months ago
@ssn708 BenIsrael has told you all you need to know about what we all saw . that "spin doctor" voodoo does'nt work anymore . The information super highway has blown all the spin out of the water . Living a delusional life is a wasted life . Always live with the truth and you'll be alright .
fabianstraregy 6 months ago
@fabianstraregy It's actually called research, fact, and common sense, not "spin". The information super highway is what gives you the ability to actually research and learn the truth, but instead you simply watch a youtube video and spout ignorance based on what you think you saw instead of actually educating yourself and learning. I began my research thinking this was murder. Facts, research, actually spending more than 5 seconds to reach a conclusion prove otherwise. Give it a shot some time.
ssn708 2 months ago
@ssn708 Me and Bene Israel have given you all the info you need to know and you still don't . Gov't schools have fcuked you up so bad that theirs no hope for you . You're toast dude . BYE
fabianstraregy 2 months ago
I’ve researched this case and seen every video. I’ve read testimony. I’ve researched both the M26 (and X26) taser and Sig Sauer .40 cal Mehserle had that night, and the differences and similarities between the two. I have investigated Mehserle’s history as well as Grant’s. I know more than I should not being directly affiliated with the case, but I began researching this as a midterm project, I am studying law and I thought I had found the perfect example of an abuse of power. I was wrong.
ssn708 7 months ago
You have to look at all the videos, because none give a clear picture on their own. After being forcefully placed on the ground (for grabbing officer Dominici by the arm and kneeing Pirone in the groin) and ordered to remain seated, Grant tried to stand up. Obviously police take this as hostile, especially in light of the hostility already shown by Grant. Bryson and Grant were under arrest because they were the only two that physically assaulted officers.
ssn708 7 months ago
@ssn708 You're nothing but a gov't groveller .When you get your fucking lawyer job then you can commence to really fucking over your fellow citizens in earnest . Well I guess it's like they say --- question :''How can you tell when a lawyer is lieing ? answer: '' When his lips are moving '' . Research that asshole , under "lawyer jokes'' . That means you'll fit right in . Oscar did not even touch any of the officers we all can see that . Even a brain dead muppet could see that .
fabianstraregy 6 months ago
The fact that Grant was on the leg of Carlos would not have prevented the control and restraint of Grant’s hands, especially the left hand, which was nowhere near Carlos and which he placed under his body. It also would not have caused Grant to try to roll to his right to avoid being cuffed. He was clearly resisting, starting with standing up when told to remain seated. Again, this was after already assaulting 2 officers, which is what found him under arrest.
ssn708 7 months ago
Video shows Oscar only took his left hand out from under his body AS Mehserle drew, and was moving it towards his back AS the shot was fired. Furthermore Mehserle clearly shouted “I’m tasing him” as he was standing and drawing, to which Grant responded “Don’t tase me”. This is why he finally decided to move his hands to his back, and why Pirone stepped back. This was testified to by some of Grant’s own friends, and heard clearly on the tape played in court.
ssn708 7 months ago
Grant had been tased before during one of his 12 arrests in 4 years, so the threat got his attention. In fact, you can still see his left hand moving toward his back as the muzzle blast appears. Some say after the shot Mehserle is trying to cuff him. Anyone with observational skills would recognize that Mehserle is in fact applying pressure to the wound, administering the only first aid he can. They likely cuffed him at some point after he was shot, that is actually standard.
ssn708 7 months ago
Mehserle had almost no training with a taser. BART police had just received tasers shortly prior, had absolutely no policy on taser placement, and officers often shared belts. In fact, Mehserle received his mid-shift as I understand. He did, however, have considerable experience firing his sidearm, as any officer does. The real proof, as much as his SAYING “I’m tasing him”, are his actions with his sidearm.
ssn708 7 months ago
No one who has fired a .40 cal would fire straight down, against a target with a hard surface behind it. Anyone who has fired a gun of that caliber has to know that, regardless how you feel on this case. Police take EXTENSIVE courses on ballistics. Ricochet could kill you or the other officers nearby, or the people on the train. In fact, it was the ricochet that killed Grant, the bullet went through the LOWER back, hit the floor, came back through the lung. No way he took that shot on purpose.
ssn708 7 months ago
@ssn708 dude, i think if he was hasty enough to mistake a light tazer for a heavy gun, then he was definetly hasty enough to forget his ballistics training. so that point is forfeit.
Snaglebagel 7 months ago
Also, when the video is slowed you can see that Mehserle only had one hand on the gun at the time it was fired. The gun actually hit his left hand and sent it flying towards his face! No one who has fired a .40 cal would intentionally fire with that grip. In fact, the grip safety should have prevented the gun from even being able to fire! This can all clearly be seen by looking up “Video proof that Mehserle thought he was firing his taser”. The site is flopping aces dot net.
ssn708 7 months ago
People who know Mehserle say he was just a big dumb oaf. They said if there was a way to screw things up, Mehserle would find it. No one who actually knew him was surprised he shot someone that he intended to tase. I know of 8 suspects who police intended to tase but accidentally shot, it doesn’t take a lot to find the cases online. Nearly all of them were either Latino or White. It does happen; especially when you mix scared with dumb.
ssn708 7 months ago
There is anger in this case. There is outrage. And there damn well should be. A man (NOT an innocent man, a man guilty of numerous crimes that night alone) was shot and he should not have been. He’s dead and he should not be. There is a girl without a daddy, and that never should have been. But this was criminally negligent homicide, as the jury found. Mehserle is no murderer and Grant certainly is no martyr. He was no peace maker. He was a violent, career criminal.
ssn708 7 months ago
As contemptible as it is, there are abuses by the police. There are murders by police. We cannot turn a blind eye to these things. They happen and they cannot be tolerated. Fong Lee is a great example few have heard about. However, by calling something a murder that was not, we lessen the atrocities that actually occur daily. Don’t do that in the name of furthering an agenda, you do your agenda more harm than good.
ssn708 7 months ago
@ssn708 all i gatta say is, my dads a cop, and he sat here and watched this.. he even said "how the fuck does a TRAINED COP, confuse a taser , with a handgun?" point a) a handgun outweights a tasergun, by ALOT.. one is plastic, and rubber, and the other is fucking steel.point blank, the cop got frustrated and got caught .. i wonder how many other people he shot and got away with it... the mugshots show proof his guilty.. one cop smiling didnt hve anything to worry about... him grinning, he did!
LeGette88 7 months ago
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that cop should be drug into the street and shot in the face and left on display for ever
hastings037 7 months ago
why on earth do transit cops have a bloody gun??? they are the furthest thing from cops...
Hkhan23 8 months ago
@Hkhan23 They are an actual police department, same as any other precinct, and are therefore required to carry a gun. They can arrest you anywhere in the state of California, pull you over, etc.
ssn708 7 months ago
@miDgetkiLLz It's already over.... The guy was found guilty of "involuntary manslaughter"
Sasukelegend5 8 months ago
most fuckin disgusting thing i have ever seen.. ok so this huggable guy is a moron not a killer? oh i meant to taze him.. oopps... the hell kinda of defense is that for ending someones life!
sadie7832 8 months ago
Most huggable lol
pompoyitaa 8 months ago
its in their barbaric nature to hate, envy and kill. be safe out their they will not stop. protect your mind, body and spirit from the real terrorists.
djataras 8 months ago
He needed to taze a handcuffed guy laying on his stomach? fuck that pig!!! grant was probably givin the pig an earfull then the pig shot him. piece of shit murderer
ItsElliottIdiot 8 months ago
@ItsElliottIdiot Oscar Grant was not handcuffed when he was shot. Had he simply allowed himself to have been handcuffed, there would have been no need for Mehserle to feel he needed to tase him, and in his stupidity and panic, pull the wrong weapon. Piece of shit? Who knows, maybe he is. Murderer, nope, not by a long shot. This was crimnally negligent homicide, just as the jury found. Dumb fuck cop meets dumb fuck career criminal, nothing more or less.
ssn708 7 months ago
Fuck that dirty ass cop. Bullshit, he knew what he was pullin out I hate cops that take advantage of their badge and think they can do what the fuck they want.
Ninjalo4life 8 months ago 21
fuk diis madafuker u killed oscar grant fukin bichh
forever13o 8 months ago
that man is suppose to make you feel save
giz5000 8 months ago
No suprise, believe me. This cocksucker is nothing but a murderer.
josephortizgarcia 9 months ago
No suprise, believe me.
josephortizgarcia 9 months ago
@GODHATESFAGSSSSSS Yaaaawn.....go watch your gay porn kid.
damageinc40 9 months ago
@GODHATESFAGSSSSSS Oh riiight. Everyone knows how "brave" it is to shoot someone in the back who is lying face down on the ground. You're an idiot. You gotta be a 12 yr old troll or something. Any way you look at it you're a loser.
damageinc40 9 months ago
@GODHATESFAGSSSSSS That piece of garbage a hero? That's an absolutely disgusting thing to say. Oh, bty when you are over the top anti gay like your screen name suggests, it probably means your gay. What's wrong guy? Like men but can't tell anyone? Hate yourself for wanting to sleep with men? You fail at life and should kill yourself asap. Make sure and get your whole head in front of the shotgun please.
damageinc40 9 months ago
I sure hope someone shoots this piece of garbage in his pig face.
damageinc40 9 months ago
he's a hero! one less dumbass obama voter!
- the rest of AMERICA that's not the SF Gay Area
LDD86 9 months ago
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i respect immortal technique's little brother,eternal technique, for being the only artist to speak up about what happen to oscar grant on that "african slave blood" song....none of these other so-called "caring" urban artist said shit!
THEWORLD4MYDISPOSAL 9 months ago
fuckin idiot cop jail him
andrewquigley18 9 months ago
Sad, but Oscar was no stranger to prison or drugs or weapons....what the cop did was wrong, but its not like he killed an outstanding citizen
hyperskreem 9 months ago
this cop is clearly chicken-hearted
KatiushaVN4 9 months ago
He's gone from "most huggable" to "most shootable."
1980PintoMan 9 months ago
Fcuk the Johnson family.
docguch 9 months ago
Fcuk Oscar Grant.
docguch 9 months ago
THIS COP IS CRASY
GB6451 10 months ago
i think it was an accident to be honest no cop is gonna pull out a gun before a tazer
blakasassin1 10 months ago
@blakasassin1 YEAH IF U CLEARLY LOOK @ THE VID U CAN SEE WHEN THE GUN FIRED HE WAS LIKE WTF?>??? BUT I THINK HE HAS TO PAY FOR KILLING AN INOCENT PERSON NOW MANSLAUGHTER IS A LIL LITELY!! I THINK HE DESERVES ABOUT 15 YEARS
nationalcitysycho 9 months ago
He's gonna be released later next month. He'll get what is deserved if he doesn't kill himself first.
AbstractOvechkin 10 months ago
disgusting government goons! their day is coming!
sethzky77 10 months ago
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maverick10241 9 months ago
@maverick10241 wow!
sethzky77 9 months ago
He enjoy talking to people, that's why He wanted to be a Cop??? are you fucking serious? try custumer service at walmart you soon to be the most wanted man in oakland, wait both jobs, require just a high school diploma or a GED, so with a little more effort, you might've gotten the walmart position, you MF pig.
katrachosps 11 months ago
a fuken cop,,,,must be punished ass hole
Mr143sim 11 months ago
I know this man personally and gaurantee the incident was accidental. Its true there is decades of built of tensions that we are all affected by, but that doesn't mean that every action that could possibly represent them does. By the way, I'm black, I pray for the kids family, and I have compassion for Johannes who IS a kind man despite popular belief. Maybe the kid should have been less confrontational...
mkyle24 11 months ago
@mkyle24
or maybe the kid shouldnt have been shot
michaelruth75 11 months ago
@michaelruth75
I think that is obvious, michael...
mkyle24 7 months ago
@mkyle24 It's amazing that in this country it's acceptable to blame the victim. What if your wife or daughter got raped? You gonna blame them too? What if your son or brother was the one shot? I bet you'd change your tune pretty quick. You know this piece of garbage cop personally? You gotta be a cop. Only a cop would say something that fucking dumb. I sincerely hope someone shoots him in his pig snout face now that he's out. Have a good LIFE douche.
damageinc40 9 months ago 19
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I'm sorry to hear so much hate in your response. It's exactly that energy that needs compassion to heal. A cop? no...just very regretful that such a horrible thing can happen to two good human beings. I believe you are projecting into my words, damageinc40. I am not blaming the kid. Johannes made a mistake and he has taken responsibility for it, and that is what I said. After, I mentioned that everyone involved was responsible. This is true self responsibility... kindness heals
mkyle24 7 months ago
@mkyle24 Even if you are black you sound very confused. You say you have compassion but in the end you blame it on the kid. Since when does a person being confrontational justify death? So is that the new law now? " Don't confront me or I may KILL you"? What kind of thinking is that??? That's a SLAVE mentality.
BeneIsrael 7 months ago
I'll add VOLUNTARY to that manslaughter charge.
Coolworldleaderguy 11 months ago
@Coolworldleaderguy
I will have to add that you are wrong then, sir.
mkyle24 7 months ago
What I think happened here- he got ticked off with the guy for giving them trouble to restrain him,& without giving it full thought & consumed with anger/annoyance/disgust,decided to stop his resistance with a shot in the back.
Things like this happen because there's not much intuitive restraint in the use of deadly force by police officers, because of the understood and evidenced truth that they're above the law, and they know it.
I don't think it was muder, but certainly is manslaughter.
Coolworldleaderguy 11 months ago
Would that excuse of mistaking the gun for something else, hold water if this was a group of civilians, and one with a licensed firearm, restraining a criminal or home-invader, with this same outcome? I think not.
Coolworldleaderguy 11 months ago
@SkitterySmokey dude you are replying to a post made 5 months ago . . . get a life, learn to spell . . .
thegpdesigner 11 months ago
@thegpdesigner what does time have to do with anything? please bitch.
TarantulaCandy 11 months ago
RIGHT NOW, this cop is being raped in prison daily. I bet the prison thugs even make this guy wear a dress.
VoodooPolitico 11 months ago
If he intended to shoot, it means:
He shouted "I'm tasing him" to throw suspicion, stood to give everyone a good view, held the gun in a way NO ONE with training would (& grip safety should have prevented), shot in a completely NON-VITAL area of the back, calculating ricochet to pierce Grant's lung while not being a danger to him or the other cops feet away, let the recoil hit his hand and send it flying towards his face, faked a look of shock and horror, all to execute a stranger for no reason.
ssn708 1 year ago
An 8 oz weight difference between the taser and gun makes no difference, especially in a panic situation. Mehserle intended to tase. Look up "Video proof mehserle thought he was firing a taser". Not only would Mehsrele not have fired without both hands on his gun, the grip safety should have prevented him from even being able to fire the gun. Being as he had extensive firearm practice (and next to zero taser training), he would know he had to grip firmly with both hands to even be able to shoot.
ssn708 1 year ago
@jettech510 So that means:
Mehserle shouted "I'm tasing him" to throw off suspicion,stood up to make sure everyone had a much better view,masked his actions to be consistent with a taser and inconsistent with firing a gun,fired into a completely NON-VITAL area of Grant's back calculating the angle of ricochet to pierce Grant's lung(but not risk his safety or that of other officers),fakes a look of shock and horror, to execute a complete stranger for no reason. My God! You're a fucking GENIUS!
ssn708 1 year ago
@jettech510 His hands were not "voluntarily" behind his back. They spent 30 seconds wrestling with him, and once Mehserle shouted "I'm tasing him" he lost his will to fight. You see, Grant had been tased before the last time he resisted arrest. Grant even shouted "Don't tase me". Hmm. CLEARLY Mehserle intended to tase, and clearly you have no concept of truth or reality.
ssn708 1 year ago
@jettech510 How the hell do you think the two are mutually exclusive? What he said is "I thought he was going for a gun". He also ahouted "I'm tasing him" prior to standing up and firing! The two are not even remotely exclusive. He intended to tase him BECAUSE he thought he was going for a weapon, when he kept putting his hands under his body. Sorry you c an not handle the truth, or are simply too stupid to realize it.
ssn708 1 year ago
@jettech510 MORON, as I have told you on several sites, he is looking down, while the weapon is STILL IN ITS HOLSTER!! All he could possibly see is his own hand and part of a black rubber handle, which both his gun AND taser had!! But you can't answer why he tugged numerous times to get it out. Had he intended to draw his gun, he would have simply unlatched the catch, not tugged time and time again until it came loose! Why did he keep tugging? Because he thought it was his TASER!
ssn708 1 year ago
@jettech510 Still spreading ignorance and lies? The jury was not given proper instruction regarding the gun enhancement. They were instructed that if it was found that a gun was used in commission of a felony, that the gun enhancement qualified. They were not instructed that the crime had to be "intentional" by the statute. If they did as you claim, that would be grounds for a very successful appeal. They would have just acquitted him instead. Precedent was already set by convicting him.
ssn708 1 year ago
cop kill a young man, cut his balls and chooke them to his wife!!!!
dove997 1 year ago
@ConservativeRuleinUS shut the fuck up you son of the bitch.
RayWalls76 1 year ago
Thats Why FOR PUBLIC SAFETY .......> Send ALL OF THESE PIGS TO THEIR BARNS coz they are Now killing innocent peoples
416995 1 year ago
The victim had a baby too. Very sad, he is not taking his responsabilities.
jessikanne 1 year ago
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All you idiots saying he meant to draw the taser just shut up pls...Nationally the taser is on the left side and is a cross draw, which means the handle is pointed towards your front side, you have to reach across for it. Opposite of the firearm. My parents are both officers and they just commented on this appalling video and defense tactic of confusion. He knew what he was doing, whether he had thought it through we will never know but he knew all too well that black man would die.
Emilio1989ish 1 year ago
the police should die
megatainemnt 1 year ago
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naturalrays 1 year ago
@brandisman1
I didn't wish anything, I said I was glad. Considering how many white people are robbed, mudered and raped by blacks every damned day, I just feel that much better when theres one less to worry about.
nakedscrewmonkey 1 year ago
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BTW, anyone who thinks that he intentionally shot that clown in front of all those people should have their head examined. These people should know that when you act all stupid and crazy you not only provoke people, but cause confusion that leads to incidents like this.
Anyway, I'm glad that motherfucker is dead.
nakedscrewmonkey 1 year ago
@nakedscrewmonkey wow dude you shouldnt wish death evevn on your worst enemy
brandisman1 1 year ago
If you really fed up with the casualties that our community is taking get up and do something about it. Anti-war rally Nov. 13th DC March on the white house to tell the negro in charge that he needs to stop overseeing the war on his own people and other peoples of the world! Join the Uhuru Movement and Black is Back and get ORGANIZED 4 Social Justice, Peace, and Reparations!
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keenanjenk 1 year ago
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adothekid 1 year ago
@adothekid yes your right a small majority of black people are lazy. a large majority of white people are racist, in the back of the white mind I'm sure there are racist slurs. From your comment i would assume your not AA. I doubt you have been fed any information about the history of black people in America, except for that in history books, made by white men, the 90% of slaves that were mistreated isn't talked about. Japanese mistreatment in WWII cant be put in the same category as the slaves
Emeer16 1 year ago
Another injustice by the system. I believe that the officer purposly drew his weapon and fired. How could a jury say manslauter. Manslaughter is accidental. He accidentily drew his weapon, then accidently pulled the trigger. The government is corrupt. People wake up. They violate their own laws. Like Bush said "You are either with us or against us." I am against your lieing murdering kind. Your reward waits for you a-holes. May your journey be swift.
bugsz1 1 year ago 25
@bugsz1 A jury could say manslaughter because it was proven beyond any logical contradiction that this was an accident. There is a litany of evidence proving it an accident, and literally nothing indicating the opposite.
ssn708 1 year ago
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ssn708 1 year ago
@bugsz1 So, according to you, Mehserle shouted "I'm tasing him" to hide his intent, stood up to give dozens of witnesses a much better view, masked his actions to be consistent with a taser and inconsistent with a gun, fired into a NON-VITAL are of Grant's back, calculated the ricochet to pierce Grant's lung while not being a threat to himself or other officers, all to execute a complete stranger in public for no reason?
Wow, you're a genius! How on Earth did a jury miss all that?
ssn708 1 year ago
@ssn708 NON-VITAL????? He died numbnuts. If Mesherle is so innocent, why did he not cooperate with Internal Affairs??? How on Earth did you miss that one genius?
joelcrouch 1 year ago
@joelcrouch Yes, NON-VITAL, you dipshit. The area where Grant was shot was a NON-VITAL area of the back, exactly where one would aim a taser. It was RICOCHET that caused the bullet to pierce Grant's lung. It was ricochet that would have also prevented him from intentionally drawing a gun in the first place, further proof he intended to tase. He didn't refuse to cooperate with Internal Affairs, HE QUIT HIS JOB, genius. Try again.
ssn708 1 year ago
@ssn708 He quit, so he wouldn't have to cooperate with Internal Affairs. Why don't you get that???? Are you a cop lover???
joelcrouch 1 year ago
@ssn708 He quit, so he wouldn't have to cooperate with Internal Affairs. Why don't you get that???? Are you a cop lover??? Again do you think justice was served here? It's simple question, and I expect a simple answer.
joelcrouch 1 year ago
@joelcrouch You have proven time and again you know literally nothing. You have proven it perfectly yet again with your last two posts. And who the fuck cares what you "expect"? A "Kill shot" is center mass. This was in the lower back. If a cop intended to fire a gun, we would aim for center mass. He also would not fire directly downward against a hard surface. He would not fire with other officers in near proximity. He intended to tase him. It's been proven, you just are too dim to get that.
ssn708 1 year ago
@ssn708 I think you hit it right on the head. No one gives a *FUCK* what you think. You are obviously biased toward cops. I just hope Mesherle gets what he deserves.
joelcrouch 1 year ago
@joelcrouch Actually, I am biased against cops. I just call bullshit on dipshits like you that detract from actual cases of police brutality and corruption by your spreading lies and BS over what was proven beyond logical contradiction to have been an accident.. You are just not intelligent enough to get it, and that is very sad for you.
ssn708 1 year ago
@ssn708 There is a good reason why I called you numb nuts. Any shot to the torso or the head is considered a "kill" shot. Mesherle meant to kill Oscar. He was probably even hoping for the RICOCHET to guarantee that the dirty deed gets done. I hope someone gets to Mesherle in prison soon. What a complete waste of oxygen.
joelcrouch 1 year ago
@bugsz1 Ah yes, he shouted "I'm tasing him" to throw off suspicion, stood to give dozens of witnesses a clear view, masked his actions to be wholly consistent with a taser and inconsistent with a gun, fired into a NON-VITAL area of Grant's lower back, calculated angle of ricochet to pierce Grant's lung while not endangering himself or other officers, faked a look of shock and horror, all to execute a complete stranger. How on Earth did a jury miss all that?
ssn708 1 year ago
@bugsz1 Not all manslaughter is accidental, involuntary manslaughter is, and that is exactly what this was. He shouted "I'm tasing him" prior to drawing. No officer would fire in that close proximity to other officers. No officer would intentionally fire downward against a hard surface standing above the point of impact, the risk of ricochet (which is actually what killed Grant, as the bullet went in a NON-VITAL area of the back) shooting himself or other officers would be way too high.
ssn708 1 year ago
@bugsz1
he was given INVOLUNTARY manslaughter on top of that. The fucking pig was given the least amount of punishment other than being completely acquitted. Sentenced to 2 yrs. Thats how much our lives our worth? 2 years? If it were a black cop killing a white kid, jury would've said murder with 15 to life in prison
PHILLYHEAT215 1 year ago
@PHILLYHEAT215 Bullshit. If it were a Black cop killing a White kid, it wouldn't have even made the news. He was convicted of involuntary manslaughter because that is exactly what it was, a negligent homicide, NOT murder! This was very clearly proven. It was Mehserle's intention to tase, not shoot. Proven fact.
ssn708 1 year ago
@ssn708
Bullshit. The modern tasers that Mehserle had is half the weight of the standard firearm issued to the cops in Oakland. Also, there is a picture taken by Oscar Grant moments before he died showing Mehserle holding his taser and proving that Mehserle was familiar with the taser and the firearm. Mehserle got away with murder. period.
PHILLYHEAT215 1 year ago
@PHILLYHEAT215 The weight difference between the M26 taser and the sig sauer .40 cal is about 8 ounces. Hardly a substantial difference, and it doesn't matter in the least since he panicked. Panic robs you of reason. It is 100% proven FACT he intended to tase. You are completely wrong if you think he murdered someone in front of dozens of witnesses for no reason. Period. He was convicted of exactly what this was, involuntary, accidental, criminally negligent homicide, NOT murder.
ssn708 1 year ago
@ssn708
You use the word "fact" unjustly. It is not a fact, you have no idea what that man's intentions were, only Mehserle. And I've held a taser & a .40 cal glock before and there is a substantial difference. And even if his intentions were to tase, he had no reason to tase Oscar Grant considering he was already subdued by at least 2 officers.
PHILLYHEAT215 1 year ago
@PHILLYHEAT215 Yes, it is an absolute FACT, one that was 100% proven and is wholly verifiable. He had plenty of reason to tase. Grant had already assaulted two officers, was resisting arrest and refusing to give his hands, while about a dozen people on the platf