@kilox10001 Well if you're around 16 or 17 years old, that's all right, but if you're like 12 or 13 and doing serious weightlifting then it will stunt your growth.
@wafflecushioned False. As long as you're lifting weights that you can do, you're fine. If this kid was deadlifting 350 every day and squating 200 every day, that would stunt his growth.
@wafflecushioned About the ages and serious lifting? I did. But I can honestly say that 12-13 is a great time to start lifting. Because, if he can bench 95lbs when he's 13, add 3-4 more years of lifting, and he could bench 315. But certain lifts are bad if your spinal cord is not fully developed, such as the deadlift and squat. But, other than the shoulders, the joints are perfectly fine in the bench press. Sorry for any confusion. Cheers.
@element509 I try to stress this (weightlifting doesn't stunt growth) but I guess I'd like to see a test performed for a kid lifting heavy weights. I'm sure it wouldn't stunt his growth but without pitch perfect form I'm sure something is destined to happen. But as I said, I don't know.
@RandomStevie Well yeah it will be stunted if you dont use perfect form, only for the reason that growth plates could be injured, but other then that, if you do everything to avoid injury as in train at most 3 MAYBE 4 times a week and not overtraining 1 muscle etc. yes it will be fine but if not then that COULD stunt it only by hurting the growth plates
@RandomStevie correct the only thing that really affects growth is the genetics that you were given if ur parents and other relatives are tall its a very good chance u would be tall also same goes for the opposite size.
u guys r all bitchs, u say u do like 120, 150? yeah maybe on ur own for 5 reps, why dont u lift for ur school where they make u lift 4 sets of 10 reps then see how much u do on the last rep
give the kid a fucking break man he isnt big as u can see but hes also 13 and how old are u? 16, 18, 20? yea so stfu and for u elk hunter my warm up is 155 so u can stfu too
You people need to stop slamming this kid. 95 lb max isn't impressive, but not everybody is a steady weightlifter, especially at this age. It's not good anyway to engage in heavy weightlifting during puberty. So for everyone out there who hates this kid because of his max bench, get a life and stop making 13 year olds feel like shit. And no I'm not this kids brother. I know one of you is going to say that.
yeah thats not htat great but i mean why do all these people comment on this acting like theyre amazing, i bet if you benched on video youd max like 105
i do this wit my feet on the bench as a warmup, but ayy thas more than i coulda done at age 13 (before i ever lifted a weight in my life), so i'll give ya props
Not to put you down bro, but a lot of people will make fun of you for this vid, 95 isn't hard, I could bench like 120 when I was 13. You're form was ok, try not to bounce it off your chest, Lift, lock, pause, bring down, pause, and push up.
Man don't worry about these cats, everyone starts out weak, unless there's some type of "superhuman" born benching 300+ then everyone commenting can EAT A DICK cause you TOO was once WEAK.
Sigh, worst lift ever, don't bounce the bar on your chest. Also, that didnt even look 95 lbs, those plates look to be about 16 lbs each plus a bar which is no more than 30 lbs so at max i think you just did 65lbs haha
i can bench press 40 pounds max and thats with a barbell, i am 27 years old, and i am 192 pounds(i been training for 6 years, i am training for strong man
but when your benching dont bounce the bar off youe chest.. it becomes a habit and if you get used to it you will fuck yourself over and your physique .. im 15 and i have been benching for the past year and my friends brother is a personal tariner haha
wow...you got it up once...and youd prly only get it up 2 more times...your max is prly 105 or maybe 110....not good...mine is 165 and i do 5sets of 5(for some reason our coach wants us to do that) with 140...so go lifting through the summer arms mon,wed,and fri and legs on tue,thur,sat...and youd be getting around 170 for max....good luck
so im a faggot? you were 14 maxing 135?ha..im 14 rite now and im gettin 165...so just stfu...and go out with your girlfriend...whos prly cheating on you..o yea, btw i wasnt bringing this kid down..i was trying to say that if hes going out for any sports in highschool he better be lifting because at 13, 95...just doesnt cut it...and if you accually payd attention in school, you might of read my comment the correct way..dumbass
too bad this is yet another cry for attention by a kid whos parents are never home..or spend little time with their little boy...unless youve been lifting for 4-5 yearstheres no way you can get up 205..not everyone on youtube is stupid like you...
u shouldnt be talkin no shit. Im 15 and leg press 1000 and bench 250. There is no reason to call him a fuckin joke if hes gettin started. I could call u a fuckin joke. but im not cause theres no reason to.
nice job for a thirteen year old... but i'll tell you that about two years from now there's going to be a big ass indent in your chest from where you slammed that bar into it hahaha
wow im 13 and i can rack up 235 and squat 410 so i dont see the big deal of 95. oh and p.s. dont drop the weight once you get it off the rack cause thats cheating when you bounce off your chest. you need to control the weight
woow im sorry but u just made yourself look like a bitch on youtube...this was a joke right like im not tryna b mean but hopfully every 13 year old can bench 95 and most girls too
my dick could have lifted that when i was 13 yours coulda to if you wasnt such a short limp dick ugly bastard
TruthfulShitTalker 3 weeks ago 2
When i first started the gym i could barely do 74 pounds 8 times.... and i weight 110....
TamaNewb 2 months ago
THIS FUCKING SUCKS HAHA HE POUNCES IT RIGHT OFF HIS CHEST YA FOOOLS.
hbhawkins624 3 months ago
So much bounce
ItsTimeNowMyTimeNow 6 months ago
@kilox10001 Well if you're around 16 or 17 years old, that's all right, but if you're like 12 or 13 and doing serious weightlifting then it will stunt your growth.
wafflecushioned 6 months ago
@wafflecushioned False. As long as you're lifting weights that you can do, you're fine. If this kid was deadlifting 350 every day and squating 200 every day, that would stunt his growth.
RandomStevie 6 months ago
@RandomStevie You must not have read my last comment.
wafflecushioned 6 months ago
@wafflecushioned About the ages and serious lifting? I did. But I can honestly say that 12-13 is a great time to start lifting. Because, if he can bench 95lbs when he's 13, add 3-4 more years of lifting, and he could bench 315. But certain lifts are bad if your spinal cord is not fully developed, such as the deadlift and squat. But, other than the shoulders, the joints are perfectly fine in the bench press. Sorry for any confusion. Cheers.
RandomStevie 6 months ago
@RandomStevie Agreed.
wafflecushioned 6 months ago
@RandomStevie Wrong, no such thing as stunting growth when lifting. Its been proven.
element509 4 months ago
@element509 I try to stress this (weightlifting doesn't stunt growth) but I guess I'd like to see a test performed for a kid lifting heavy weights. I'm sure it wouldn't stunt his growth but without pitch perfect form I'm sure something is destined to happen. But as I said, I don't know.
RandomStevie 4 months ago
@RandomStevie Well yeah it will be stunted if you dont use perfect form, only for the reason that growth plates could be injured, but other then that, if you do everything to avoid injury as in train at most 3 MAYBE 4 times a week and not overtraining 1 muscle etc. yes it will be fine but if not then that COULD stunt it only by hurting the growth plates
element509 4 months ago
@RandomStevie correct the only thing that really affects growth is the genetics that you were given if ur parents and other relatives are tall its a very good chance u would be tall also same goes for the opposite size.
coolsideeric01 2 months ago
now i do mma, wrestleing, soccor and football,and im only 14 but when i was 13 i could bench 180 26 times
amen703 6 months ago
@amen703 no you cant i can tell by your noobish by how you said how much you bench
ojoj626 6 months ago
@ojoj626 whatever beleive what you want i can and i know i can
amen703 6 months ago
Are you joking me? I could benchpress 175 pounds 3 times at your age.
tipman444 7 months ago
hes off to a good start. half you fuckin people have never touched real weights
sasquatch4liffee 7 months ago 3
im 14 and i can bench 135 for 2
parkourvids1 7 months ago
@parkourvids1 same...now thats realistic some kids are like ohh i can bench like 235 nad im 12..which is complete bullfuck
yaboypetey17 7 months ago
you bounced it off your chest and plus im 12 and i can bench 95 correctly 5 times
mrosswrestler 7 months ago
u guys r all bitchs, u say u do like 120, 150? yeah maybe on ur own for 5 reps, why dont u lift for ur school where they make u lift 4 sets of 10 reps then see how much u do on the last rep
riverdog1224 7 months ago
give the kid a fucking break man he isnt big as u can see but hes also 13 and how old are u? 16, 18, 20? yea so stfu and for u elk hunter my warm up is 155 so u can stfu too
rememberthenamecena2 7 months ago
im 12 and 95 lbs is my warm up my max is 120lbs
elkhunter77101 8 months ago
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@elkhunter77101 im 12 and 95 lbs is my warm up my max is 120lbs
TSFP 8 months ago
@elkhunter77101 me to lol
mrosswrestler 7 months ago
he fucking scared me
karakondzula2 8 months ago
LOL @ the keyboard warriors. get a life people.
finalfanta15 8 months ago
why did you feel the need to show the internet that very unimpressive video?
BOYthatROX 8 months ago
im 12 and do 120
ProSnipesinHD 8 months ago
You people need to stop slamming this kid. 95 lb max isn't impressive, but not everybody is a steady weightlifter, especially at this age. It's not good anyway to engage in heavy weightlifting during puberty. So for everyone out there who hates this kid because of his max bench, get a life and stop making 13 year olds feel like shit. And no I'm not this kids brother. I know one of you is going to say that.
wafflecushioned 9 months ago 10
@wafflecushioned You must be his older brother or something?
afterthefact17 7 months ago
i see the xbox training regime has been working well for you...
subway0865 9 months ago
bet that sponge on the bar gets some use......with you slamming it on your chest, you idiot.
robertowraith1993 9 months ago
i can do 95 100x while killing you at the same time, i hate you bitch
slimbw93 9 months ago
i can do probably 50 reps of 95 with my dick getting cut off with a bar made of pure needles. you are garbage. and weak.
RossTheBossHD 10 months ago
lmfao, you look bigger than me and im maxxing 190 and rep 135
oilermeat99 10 months ago
Come on I'm 13 and Ur week as fuck only one rep I can do like 20 reps of 95 my max is 180 right now
Derekco247 10 months ago
dude your huge... faggit
lashrags43 11 months ago
duh im 13 and my max is 120
andrewvega20 1 year ago
Sorry man when I was 13 my bench was 130 pounds but keep training and I was considered not very strong .
U need to get stronger before uploading on you tube
Worldwiderecorders 1 year ago
im 14 and i bench 155 at 115... fagget
CorpusGaming 1 year ago
@CorpusGaming haha thats it, im 12 and i can do that for a good 1
ride869 1 year ago
@CorpusGaming What do you squat ? hahahahahahhaha
urfavehero 1 year ago
eh not bad... increase the weight tho. Please :)
ArmenianBeatboxer 1 year ago
Not impressed.
13andincrediblycut 1 year ago
LOL
13andincrediblycut 1 year ago
yeah thats not htat great but i mean why do all these people comment on this acting like theyre amazing, i bet if you benched on video youd max like 105
mrcollinaz96 1 year ago
Wow, I just turned 14 last week and im benching 165x4
55Spartan99 1 year ago
good job man..try to go a little slower and controlled now; youll build more muscel
Cdv360 1 year ago
Pretty embarrassing... I am 13 and I do 135 2 reps.
LHedgehog1 1 year ago
i do this wit my feet on the bench as a warmup, but ayy thas more than i coulda done at age 13 (before i ever lifted a weight in my life), so i'll give ya props
themankoosky 1 year ago
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themankoosky 1 year ago
dude im 13 and i can bench over 103 pounds
ride869 1 year ago
Did this with my cock...when i was 9.
spevi1234 1 year ago
my friend is 13 and he benches 180
popcorniscool21 1 year ago
lol im 13 and i can lift 90 kg too ?
12KARMOY21 1 year ago
Not to put you down bro, but a lot of people will make fun of you for this vid, 95 isn't hard, I could bench like 120 when I was 13. You're form was ok, try not to bounce it off your chest, Lift, lock, pause, bring down, pause, and push up.
Marco8covarrubias 1 year ago
@Marco8covarrubias word i benched 120 when i was thirteen and that was three sets of 5 reps
theclutch123456789 1 year ago
HAHAHAHH your cool ill post another of my Vids Benching 200 kid and i curl 75
BodyBuilders3000 1 year ago
Wow yo 95 is mah warmup and I'm 13
SgtBigBirdAbc 1 year ago
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bluegama500 1 year ago
im 13 and most of us can bench 145 pounds or more, you're weak
Jdroxxxxxxx 1 year ago
@Jdroxxxxxxx yeah, i bench 220, but im turning 14 this october
tylertheman6 1 year ago
LOL
8Grams0fat 1 year ago
Who you askin me or the dude in the video?
airforcemw 1 year ago
Dude i just turned 13 and can bench press 155 lbs!!
airforcemw 1 year ago
keep liftin, im 12 and i max 135
pillowsarecool2 1 year ago
@pillowsarecool2 how tall are you? Im 5'9 and 125 pounds and i have been lifting for about 5 months
RangersAirsoft 1 year ago
@RangersAirsoft im 5'7 and about 120 and ive been lifting for about 8 months, and actually i did 145 yesterday
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@RangersAirsoft im 5'7 and about 120 and ive been lifting for about 8 months, and actually i did 145 yesterday
pillowsarecool2 1 year ago
Is this bad im 13 and i bench 115 about 4 times
RangersAirsoft 1 year ago
@RangersAirsoft thats pretty good, im 12 and i can do it 4 or 5 times, but i lift all the time
pillowsarecool2 1 year ago
@RangersAirsoft No, that''s about average I would say. I''m also thirteen and I bench about 130.
LightBeam18 1 year ago
@RangersAirsoft That's good bro, some kids in my weight class can't even bench 110.
Marco8covarrubias 1 year ago
Man don't worry about these cats, everyone starts out weak, unless there's some type of "superhuman" born benching 300+ then everyone commenting can EAT A DICK cause you TOO was once WEAK.
truegamer4ever 1 year ago
what was teh point of uploading this?
akhtab94 1 year ago
that was dumb and that kid is weak, i'm 15 and i max at around 225, at 13 i maxed around 135
IRONdonkey217 1 year ago
I weigh 220 pounds RAW muscle at 15 I can bench 325 pounds. This kids weak.
IEATU95 1 year ago
@IEATU95 Then upload a video of you doing it then and stop talking the most. Oh, EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT.
truegamer4ever 1 year ago
Sigh, worst lift ever, don't bounce the bar on your chest. Also, that didnt even look 95 lbs, those plates look to be about 16 lbs each plus a bar which is no more than 30 lbs so at max i think you just did 65lbs haha
Oneshotko 1 year ago
@Oneshotko Who the hell makes a 16 pound plate?
tdheoembaesl 1 year ago
95 lbs is nothiin
MrDaviator 1 year ago
i can bench press 40 pounds max and thats with a barbell, i am 27 years old, and i am 192 pounds(i been training for 6 years, i am training for strong man
michaelburgess1 1 year ago
where are you today? jw
bright5086200 1 year ago
bro im 14 and im just alittle bigger than you are and i can rep 95 pounds 30 reps
22HollisterDude22 1 year ago
I weigh 130 and bench 185, he is a weak ass
prepompa12 1 year ago
wow i do 140 and im 13
theAko4 1 year ago
that bar is 10 pounds and also he had 10 pounds on each side so he did 30 not bad for a 13 yr old im 14 and i can bench 160 lbs
qweras22 1 year ago
i hope that every 13 year old boy can bench 95 lbs.....this video is pathetic.
borrice 1 year ago
im 14 and i train with 145 lbs
10 reps easy:P
Spikaros 1 year ago
I can rep this 30 times lol.
SurfAllOfSd 2 years ago
same here, im 13 and my max is about 145-155
Cowgoezmoo101 2 years ago
i'm 13 and my max is 165 right now and this is really sad.
randomlol37 2 years ago
well i'm only 23 and i can jerk a car overhead, with a family of 4 in it... and i've only been training 2 weeks.
jonnyeldredge 2 years ago 17
im 16 maxing out at 285 at a body weight of 190
Pick6sallday 2 years ago
Im 15, i weigh 135, i can do 140 2 times the most right now, i only have been benching for 3 weeks off and on
shooterman13 2 years ago
wow u guys are strong...im 18 and i max out at 190... i could care less about how much i lift tho, its all about the way you look:)
jackedblob 2 years ago
i am 13 and i can do 160 all the kids that say they can do over 220 i want to see a video of you doing it.
SuperBeandude 2 years ago
i'm 13 and my max in 150 so yea i think their either really fat or just lying
wardog847 2 years ago
Why would you post this?
MikeM00se 2 years ago 2
not to be an as whole but my bro can bench 175 pounds two times and he is 13. i dont know what is max is tho.
Jayman4Twenty 2 years ago
probably around 180 or 185
cj21144 2 years ago
Probably 190.
phillyfreak7 2 years ago
ya brownie your ass is fat and saggy
Atoy17 2 years ago
my max is 160 and im 130 lbs, im 12
Atoy17 2 years ago 2
@Atoy17 my ass
browniemidget68 2 years ago
whos the fat hilly billy in the background?
by the way terrible lift.
and your a fag
NuTcAsE032 2 years ago
wtf, lol my friend weighs a 117 and can do 120 when he was 13
COLEleslieISgreasy 2 years ago
I did 60kg when I was 12years. And i dont do weightlifting. I just wanted to see how much I could manage
Omegashenron1992 2 years ago
haha wow 95?
what a fag
EQUALVISION102 2 years ago
ooh tough guy who can lift 95 lbs
crawfish45 2 years ago 2
thats what i do for 5 also 13
axxp770 2 years ago
i do 95 for 18 reps, i weigh 117lbs 5 feet 5.
im 14 years old lol
AndyAngelZ 2 years ago
Cool, I can do it around that many times too. ha ha ha. I turn 14 in 8 days, and im 130 lbs. and im 5'5''. Lol.
Pivot1king 2 years ago
nice work...when i was 12 i was bench 95 max...but that is not your max...and now i bench 170 at 14
2066241 2 years ago
woah settle down there shaq
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steroidsR4losers 2 years ago
i have a friend who is 13 and he benches around 130 something
hamp1995 2 years ago 2
I'm 13 and I bench about 135 - 140. Im like a weighlifting fanatic, I love doing it.
Pivot1king 2 years ago
who cares about ur age, its about how much u weigh lol. and i weigh 117lbs and i can bench press 145lbs max
AndyAngelZ 2 years ago
nice lol, i can do 195 and i weigh 120
cj21144 2 years ago
good job bud,
but when your benching dont bounce the bar off youe chest.. it becomes a habit and if you get used to it you will fuck yourself over and your physique .. im 15 and i have been benching for the past year and my friends brother is a personal tariner haha
good job tho
mclinnes19 2 years ago 2
damn kid your strong, and your form was phenomenal!
steroidsR4losers2 2 years ago
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steroidsR4losers 2 years ago
fuck all the haters if this kid wants to show off his bench let him everyone starts off somewhere, good job kid keep going at it
metallicsaber120 2 years ago 3
Dude 95 pounds is nothing. I'm 14 and I barely bench and i can do like 160.
AlbinoGangstaz 2 years ago
thts pretty good
im 13 5'4" 110 pounds and can only do 75
wipCReMe67 2 years ago
wow dude im 13 and i rep 145 and i max out at 185 work out more and widen ur grip it helps
dph4465 2 years ago
yeah man it helps to lift more weight but a narrower grip builds muscle better
brodsterxx 2 years ago
actually a narrower grip focuses more on the triceps
andysomethinsomethin 2 years ago
Way to go! That was awsome!
TheBostonCeltic 2 years ago
Dude no offense but that is a huge waste of time to make a video insulting your self
uhnonymous26 2 years ago
No offense, thats weak. I do 115 with ease and for fun. Can do 140 easy.
SWEETERTHANHONEY101 2 years ago
your a little weak ass
Bevo54 2 years ago
im 13 and can get 135 easy
xXdeerboyXx 2 years ago
thats easy shit i get 135 10 times
heroct234 2 years ago
the words 13 yr old and youtube together is just an accident waiting to happen. Look at my vid.
llennroy 2 years ago
wow im 13 work out with 105 and max at 140 haha and ive only workouted for 3 mounths
aaaattttwwww 2 years ago
140 i do that 5 times easily
heroct234 2 years ago
im 13 benching 180lbs weighing 140lbs dont put 13yrs old benching 95lbs put your weight and then how much you bench good start
drei2222 2 years ago
holy shit it seems every comment on this video of some ''13 year old who can supposedly bench press 300 lbs'' Fucking Bullshit!
gingerykid454 2 years ago
wow...you got it up once...and youd prly only get it up 2 more times...your max is prly 105 or maybe 110....not good...mine is 165 and i do 5sets of 5(for some reason our coach wants us to do that) with 140...so go lifting through the summer arms mon,wed,and fri and legs on tue,thur,sat...and youd be getting around 170 for max....good luck
NinjAssassins 2 years ago
Wow shut the fuck up faggot this kid is 13 benchin 95.. i was 14 MAXING 135 now i just turned 16 throwin up 300 his time will come
ni99awhat67 2 years ago
so im a faggot? you were 14 maxing 135?ha..im 14 rite now and im gettin 165...so just stfu...and go out with your girlfriend...whos prly cheating on you..o yea, btw i wasnt bringing this kid down..i was trying to say that if hes going out for any sports in highschool he better be lifting because at 13, 95...just doesnt cut it...and if you accually payd attention in school, you might of read my comment the correct way..dumbass
NinjAssassins 2 years ago
I read it the right way its just the fact yu said not good
ni99awhat67 2 years ago
fuck both of you im 13 and gettin 170 for 4 reps and 205 for one rep
browniemidget68 2 years ago
too bad this is yet another cry for attention by a kid whos parents are never home..or spend little time with their little boy...unless youve been lifting for 4-5 yearstheres no way you can get up 205..not everyone on youtube is stupid like you...
NinjAssassins 2 years ago
Fcuking noob
sred14 2 years ago
cheater too
Ewebbb 2 years ago
i weigh 105 and can bench 110
kirbstomp123 2 years ago
Ok..
im 14 and my max is 225
get with it!
Derekberwager1128 2 years ago
uhh yea. sure. stop bragging on other people's videos. it makes you suck
0riginalsh0ttaz 2 years ago
damn im 14 and rep 140 im in my 4th month
sred14 2 years ago
I rep this 25 reps and im 13 and weigh 122 good lord lol
pantherpowerlifter22 2 years ago
I'm 14, 120 pounds, I leg press 300.
Bench 160.
You sir, are a fucking joke.
gibsonlespaul2 2 years ago
u shouldnt be talkin no shit. Im 15 and leg press 1000 and bench 250. There is no reason to call him a fuckin joke if hes gettin started. I could call u a fuckin joke. but im not cause theres no reason to.
corvetteracer916 2 years ago
Yeah fucking right. I bet you leg press 1000. Your mother right?
gibsonlespaul2 2 years ago
nope on a leg press dip shit
corvetteracer916 2 years ago
ive seen 15 y/o do it, actually 1200 i only do like 700 as a max, i work more with squat bench power clean and deadlift than the leg press thoug
jakemillyard 2 years ago
lmao
ni99awhat67 2 years ago
lol iam 14 but when i was 13 i got 135 for reps this kid is weak shit
GameBattlesCraze 2 years ago
nice job for a thirteen year old... but i'll tell you that about two years from now there's going to be a big ass indent in your chest from where you slammed that bar into it hahaha
notafricanamerican 2 years ago 2
AHAHAHAHAHA
sred14 2 years ago
wow im 13 and i can rack up 235 and squat 410 so i dont see the big deal of 95. oh and p.s. dont drop the weight once you get it off the rack cause thats cheating when you bounce off your chest. you need to control the weight
saragostore1 2 years ago
lol but i can't stop laughin at this cause im 13 and i maxed 150.
Nate666m3tal 2 years ago
shit im 13 and i could lift 695
kornkid89 2 years ago
lol comon.. 95 i could do in my sleep im 13 and i weigh 140lbs... i squat 325 and bench 215..
milesyb123 2 years ago
good job
siren0770 2 years ago
i hope this is a joke
borrice 2 years ago
haha im 13 i bench 120 2 sets of 10
juggalostoner69 2 years ago
woow im sorry but u just made yourself look like a bitch on youtube...this was a joke right like im not tryna b mean but hopfully every 13 year old can bench 95 and most girls too
pkdown 2 years ago
wow im 13 and i got 160
rjn2010 3 years ago
not a big deal... my work out partner is 14 and he does 110 for reps... and i have a 13 year old friend who does 100 for reps.
calebbridwell 3 years ago
Astounding raw strength
etwade 2 years ago