Environmentalism is a evil cult. If you know of someone who has been exploited by this cult you need to get them to watch this video. Only you can stop environmentalism and save humanity.
Carbon dioxide is just .038 percent of the earth's atmosphere. Human industry produces less than 10 percent of that.
Climate change is driven by the wobble of the earth's axis over a 26,000 year cycle (Precession of the Equinoxes). Do you really think humans caused past ice ages and tropical epochs?
My facts are true. If you really care about climate change, Google Precession of the Equinoxes. And please learn to think, AGW theory is a fraud!
Ok, I re-phrase that. How c\n anyone with an IQ of over 65 buy into all the dogma surrounding global warming? Maybe IQ and free thinking don't come hand in hand. It actually amazes me how many people aren't aware that there is an argument over AGW at all!
I've long been mystified how apparently very intelligent people follow religions and believe in God! I imagine it's a flaw in brain construction, wanting to attach oneself to some messianic social movement.
I hope that you will noted and honoured as you should be.
Please continue until this matter of Global Warming is sealed to never return again.
So that we can all get back to focusing on local pollution - were we actually can effect change to our local environment, without needing a global carbon tax to do it.
One of the best ways to avoid draconian restrictions on greenhouse gas emissions under a 'one world government' would be to find a way to privately solve the problem. Instead, the Free Market Institute seems to be occupying its energies in sacking the opposition.
Disgusting. Regardless of how little or how much merit his viewpoint has, presenting it in such a manner is revolting, an insult to peoples intelligence.
chestertonfan, while the judges may settle the matter, which i haven't check and am not sure, look at he kind of decisions the supreme court has made. The are not exactly shining conservatives. Personally, i wouldn't hold much faith in the court to uphold the constitution. If anything, they seem to like big government. And as to Climategate, notice how silent the U.S. News networks about it. I've heard a little on Fox from Hannity and the like. Without the internet, we would be clueless.
hes wrong about the constitution. it does not say that treaties rank higher than the constitution. the constitution is the highest to us. it does say that the US can bind itself to terms of treaties, but not unconstitutionally. however, there is no domestically enforced reprecussion for breaking a treaty.
also, the climate changes up and down, whatever. i dont think it's caused by humans. the system has wonderful recovery mechanisms and anything short of critical mass is essentially moot imo
You're right, Ihs04. No mere treaty can override the U.S. Constitution.
Yes, I am aware that some radical legal theorists have claimed the opposite, but they are plainly wrong, and Lord Monckton should not give credence to their lies. According to the U.S. Constitution, treaties must be made "under the authority of the United States," which authority is defined and limited by the Constitution, itself, and may not be extended w/o a constitutional amendment.
Plus, the U.S. Constitution gives U.S. Federal Courts jurisdiction over "ALL CASES" arising from treaties made under the authority of the United States - which means the SCOTUS trumps any foreign or international court in such cases. Only if we let Obama pack the Court with extreme radicals could the President and Senate get away with trying to amend the Constitution via treaties, in an end-run around the requirements of 2/3 majority in the House and ratification by 3/4 of the States.
What's more, treaties do not go into effect "with the stroke of a pen." They require a 2/3 majority in the Senate, too, and it is unlikely that Obama could muster 67 Senators to go along with this mostrosity.
@bdk316 I would appeciate it if you would not use curse. Regarding Lindzen, dispite his impressive career, his latest paper "Lindzen and Choi" is absolute nonsense. It has been thoroughly debunked by James Annan, Chris Colose, and even fellow climate "skeptic" Dr. Spencer.
If you were to look a bit further than the tip of your nose, you would maybe realize that the whole world does not revolve around a pompous Englishmen.
Global warming is the greatest scientific fraud in history. The data is far from conclusive, and we still don't know what caused all the ice ages of the Pleistocene.
If you really want to know what this guy is all about, Google "monckton magical mystery tour".
The facts are clear : Monckton's "science" is completely fabricated, his political views proposterous, and his ego is about the size of the Atlantic Ocean.
Why b/c some radical lib like yourself says so. CO2 is part of the life cycle dumbfuck plants trees etc feed off of it and give O2 for you and the rest of the climategate assholes to breath. And all that data they based their claims on is 1) a lie as we are now learning but 2) they are all based off computer models. How about Dr Lindzen from MIT who used actual data over 20 yrs to disprove them all?!
Tell us genius after who caused the planet to warmup after the last ice age?Was it the dinosaurs that survived running machines&factories that dumped all the CO2 into the atmosphere or was it all the methane they farted out from the meat &plants they ate? Do tell inquiring minds want to know. Oh and there is this thing called the Sun and it goes through temp changes too, so if it get a fraction cooler/hotter what do you think happens here?
You tree hugging libs are on your way to being extinct!
Would the treaty still stand if we overthrew the government by force of arms?
I'm just asking...
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
the ussr tried this with czarist russia's obligations and their argument was rejected. technically, a revolution in govt would not erase the treaty, however, it would only be as binding in domestic law insofar as domestic law (interpreted by the govt) would allow it to be. so, only if they want it to be binding would it be (in domestic law) which is also the way it would be even if there were no revolution. the constitution is supreme even if there are other "superseding" international laws.
Yes, Greenland was green when the Vikings came. However, that was during the Medieval Warm Period (during which temperature was much hotter than today), and before the Little Ice Age struck & freezed the whole island.
The temperature during the Medieval Warm Period was not hotter than today. Check out Wiki.
And while you are checking that, check the 'decline'. The global temperature recorded for 2009 is that it has been one of the three hottest years in human history. The trend has wavered (which is always happening) but over all is still upward.
Still in denial? Google James Balog's TED lecture at Oxford University.
Refer to me as an 'environmentalist convert' and I shall refer to you as a 'Monckey'.
Who to believe, Stern or Mockton?
Monckton - Claimed to be a member of the House of Lords, but isn't. Recieved 0 votes in his attempt to be elected to that body. Is paid by Heartland to dis climate change.
Stern - is a world renowned economist and academic. Is member of the House of Lords, has five honorary degrees and is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. Has no political agenda.
Well, yes, I have 'given it a try'. Sadly it just confirmed the junk science he subscribes to. Incidentally, I met another former member of the Think Tank he was part of in the 80's recently. When I mentioned Monckton's name he just groaned and said Monckton was a "self-aggrandising lunatic".
It is interesting how you, in your argument, at the same time invoke an appeal to authority ("another former member of the Think Tank he was part of") as well as an Ad-Hominem attack ("self-aggrandising lunatic")
To be completly frank, I find your attempts at discrediting Lord Christopher Moncton to be completly ridicolous. Allow me to laugh out loud...
arguably, everyone on both sides has a political agenda. if stern is in the house of lords, a legislative body, he's got a political agenda. honorary degrees mean you didnt actually do the work to get the degree, you just did the school a favor like speak at commencement or make a documentary about.....you guessed it. climate change. all the credentials you cited for stern means he's the one person who wouldnt step out of "the party line" which says global warming is irrefutable fact.
You are making so many incorrect assumptions that I hardly know where to start. The subtext is that because you dont believe in climate change then anyone who does is towing the party line and therefore wrong.
please, show me the incorrect assumptions ive made. was it when i said honorary degrees arent real degrees or when i said that Liberals throughout the world argue that climate change is man-made and Conservatives throughout the world argue the opposite? the argument is undeniably a political creature now. if data came out tomorrow saying that the sun was responsible for all the noted change, do you think the data wouldnt be suppressed? think of how many important people's work would be ruined.
youre making the incorrect assumptions. i believe in climate change. theres hard data out there being interpreted by smart people who know what theyre doing. i just dont believe that it's mankind's fault or that theres some debt that the 1st world should pay to the 3rd world for having factories. nor is it the place of those scientists to tell me so. and even if it was, paying the debt via new taxes to Liberals who want big government (read: keep it themselves) would be the worst way to do it.
If you believe the smart folk who interpret the hard data that climate change is happening, why do you not accept their conclusion that human activity is to blame?
because theres a big difference between sticking a thermometer in a block of ice and isolating the causal origin of a planetary condition ...and then passing a moral judgment to boot. science is great at telling us what but saying why, definitively, is much harder. i hold out for more conclusive data and for now im very skeptical of the sources. these smart people are already guilty of fudging their numbers to coincide with an agenda and most importantly, their politics. one word: FUNDING
If you are still questioning the science because of the hysteria surrounding the email scam perhaps you should dig a bit deeper. As a starting point check out Potholer 54s youtube contribution - those hacked emails.
Then check how much Saudi Arabia is set to loose if the US develops technology that reduces or eliminates the need for fossil fuels. Whose is the only dissenting voice at Copenhagen? Be careful who you are supporting.
'Lord' Monckton (check his credentials) is no climate scientist - his degree is in classical languages. He was part of a think-tank advising Margaret Thatcher on economics in the 80s. Margaret Thatcher profoundly disagreed with him on climate change (her degree is in chemistry). He is subsidised by the Heartland Institute to rubbish climate change. His agenda is free-market economics.
...or denied it when he is introduced on Fox news as a climate expert. He is not. He has a strong opinion based on his belief in free-market economics which makes him look for the science that supports his belief. Rather like creationists claiming that fossils are evidence for the deluge.
Ignoor Monckton and political means for a second, if the globe is warming as we speak why are huge icebergs rolling up on the S. Australian coast line without melting?
This thread is about Monckton and his beliefs, not Global Warming. However, it is true that the Antarctic is breaking up faster than predicted and the ice is moving towards Australia. Your point?
No, the issue here is the EU Co2 tax being pushed because of rapid the 'warming' effect its suposedly causing to the globe i.e. Global Warming, My point is why are icebergs reaching so far north without melting, that would suggest the temperatures in southern areas of AUS and NZ are cooling enough for the ice to even get there, this has not been witnessed since the 30's.
the idea is, the warmer the earth as a whole gets, the more ice in the antarctic melts enough to break away from wherever it is now. since it's only slightly warmer, that ice will stay in chunks but essentially the fact that it is not in the antarctic anymore is an indication that the temperature at the poles is higher than it used to be. so by bringing up the presence of huge blocks of ice in AUS you've shot yourself in the foot.
I'll agree about the annoying bit. I live in the EU. What is this CO2 'tax' you talk about? All I can tell you is that I'm having to pay more insurance because we've had more disastrous floods costing over $300m in the past three years alone. For more info Google Susan Watts most recent article on the BBC website.
in the north/northwestern EU there's a tax on CO2 emissions, in the rest of the EU there are similar programs (though maybe not necessarily specific to CO2 ...to my knowledge at least) that are part of a comprehensive EU emissions trading scheme. a similar program has been proposed in the US. as for insurance- the cost of your premium is all based on speculation. the more insurance companies get freaked out by al gore and think the world is coming to an end bc of climate change, the more you pay
Odd. I live in North-West Europe and I don't know of any taxes on CO2 emissions. But I do know that low emission and clean technology industry is subsidised. Perhaps this is because climate change is so evident over here.
Re Insurance. No - the cost of insurance is based on historical data not speculation. Whether you believe it is as a result of climate change or not, in the past 50 years extreme weather events have increased dramatically where I live. Don't believe me? Google Susan Watts: Insuring against climate change.
yes, historical data is the basis for the decision of whether to insure and at what premium, but the decision is still one about whether they will be able to profit from your premiums against an event in the FUTURE. the more they BELIEVE that event will occur (or will occur w/ higher frequency) whether based on historical data or anything else, the higher your premiums. my bet is the climate change panic is solidifying these company's EXPECTATIONS for disaster whether the numbers show it or not
Where I live we've had more extreme weather over the past four years than in recorded history. Many of my friends houses were so badly damaged that it took over a year of work before they could even move back in. Is this because the insurance companies have EXPECTATIONS for disaster? Is it because they BELIEVED the event would occur? Do you honestly believe that insurance companies who are constantly looking at ways to reduce premiums and attract customers would be that stupid?
the issue is whether the document can be trusted. if you don't trust lord monckton, i think you could read this treaty somewhere, and see for yourself. if this is not possible, then i'm sure you would find that fact to be a red flag. i have known about lord monckton for some time, and in this regard i place faith in his judgement of the wording of the treaty. it seems to me that america has nothing to lose by not signing it, and everything to lose by signing it.
well, you seem self-assured, and reassuring. certainly, you and obama and other world leaders wouldn't mind if the united states just took a pass on signing exactly at this point in time, just to study the ramifications a little further...maybe let the legistlatures of our fifty separate states to decide if there's nothing to worry about, such as the overriding of 0ur own u.s. constitutional sovreignty you wouldn't mind, right? nothing to worry about, right? just to get facts straight?
You are obviously intelligent, but can you honestly say that you are not prejudiced by a right-wing agenda? A prejudiced reason for signing or not signing any bit of legislation is always the wrong reason.
The BBC has a reputation as being unbiased. Go to the BBC News website and type 'a journey through the Earth's climate history into their search facility. Check it out. Your response will be a measure of your objectivity.
The BBC unbias, hahaha don't make me laugh. They are just as bias as any of the major American news networks however they are more covert about it. One example being blaming the last Georgia/Russian conflict on being started by Russia when it was blatantly clear it was started by Georgia with (arguably US/Israeli/UK funding). Get a grip seriously the BBC has an agenda to push like any other corporate or state run news network, stop being so damn naive.
I'll bite. Let's say it all is a hoax. What is the motivation for governments to willingly curb their consumption & promote the hoax? What do they get out of it? Or do they not realize they're shooting themselves in the foot, being deluded and misinformed? And what's the nefarious motive behind the scientists doing the deluding? I've never heard a good answer to these questions.
Also, the US routinely breaks its treaties & agreements. We'll simply ignore it if we ever change our minds.
answer: the motivation is redistribution of wealth, primarily from the United States, primarily, to less developed countries, in the name of "justice", for all of America's "sins" against the rest of the world. It actually has nothing to do with protecting the environment. It has everything to do with diminishing the influence of free markets and free enterprise. The ultimate aim is global socialist dictatorship, with no individual rights to liberty or property.
Personally, I don't buy that b/c human nature is inherently too selfish to want to give up power in the name of altruism. At least, that has generally been our track record as humans for the past several thousand years. But you're certainly entitled to your opinion.
the ones who are pushing this treaty are not giving up power; they are expanding it for themselves. and Obama figures he can be the first "king of the world", and the bringer of economic justice to the ones who support him and certain classes who voted for him- global labor unions, global socialists, global environmentalists (who, like monckton said, is where the communists went) and blacks, in america, and around the world.and it's disguised as alrtruism.
Too paranoia-based conspiracy theory for me. In the US, the far-right impinges on people's rights, too (e.g. warrantless wiretaps). Nobody's blameless. Besides, amongst the lefty, granola, tree-huggers, the right to picket & protest & exercise free speech is sacrosanct. Totalitarianism (like Chinese & Soviet communism w/Internet censorship & Tiananmen Sq) is the antithesis of Western liberalism. People confuse liberals for communists WAY too much. (BTW, rich capitalists voted largely for Obama.)
the only protesting to be done, is by the lefty granola tree-huggers. their free speech is the only one allowed. according to them, debate is over; obama does intend to sign this agreement, no matter how many scientists have trashed their data, and no matter how many more scintists say global warming by co2 emissions from man is junk science. for the left, it's not about science. it's about cutting off america at the knees, because we're greedy imperial democracy enforcers & resource exploiters
Last I checked, there was a huge 9/12 rally just a couple of months ago that got plenty of turnout. Plus, the right wing dominates the airwaves in the US. Hard to argue that their speech is curtailed.
Personally, the ridiculous portrayal of Obama as Lex Luthor is just too fantasy-based for me. And for people on the far-right who want to view him through that lens, there's simply no constructive dialog to be had. It's great for the ratings of TV commentators, though!
@albertinamel right wing dominance of the airwaves? Hardly! The relatively few right-leaning shows have hit a responsive chord with many fed-up Americans and that scares the crap outta the left--who now seeks to gag these shows with the so-called "Fairness Doctrine".
i think albertinamel meant airwaves as in talk radio, which is dominated by the right. however, television and print media is very biased to the left
@albertinamel- i dont think obama is a lex luthor figure but he (in line with Dem platform) wants bigger govt and more taxes. this is no mystery. not totalitarian levels but more than america is used to. putting taxes on production and pollution is a great way to expand govt's wallet, while giving the impression of altruism. Dem tactics as usual
it's horrible- I hear this constant BS on NPR all the time. Stupid state run media. People have no idea what's happening. This is the sacking of ROME (USA) all over again. Our emperors are inept buffoons and are senators and congressmen are hopeless corrupt. Our currency has been debased and the barbarians are at the gate. Here we repeat history yet again. Get ready for another "Dark Age" of war and slavery
Nuh uh buddy, the new international government will assume a higher power than any national law or constitution. Once the President signs it it matters not what your country's laws or Senate says; it's game over.
They can assume what ever the well they they want. That doesn't mean the US has to except it. Even if this was true and Obama signs it. He can't force it on the US with out following the US Constitution. I don't like Obama. I didn't vote for him. But the nutty conspiracy stuff is over the top.
andy STFU, seriously, you want to be a slave for junk science, go for it, but don't insult people's intelligence by saying they are crazy if they believe something
WE are to be free, not slaves to no one, why don't you just live in the woods and enjoy your low carbon footprint
Yes don't fall for the fact these criminals have cooked the numbers, admitted they can't explain the decrease in global temps when they claim it's rising, have conspired to keep those many scientists who disagree with them out of peer review journals, refused to provide the data they claim they have so it can be verified, or are caught planning to delete any information that will prove their crime if caught and are then caught doing all these things in their e-mails! Don't believe this!
Oh, and these guys like gore are getting rich off this phony global warming! We don't want them in the unemployment line do we? Have a heart! Lets bankrupt the planet for a phony scheme to make them money and give them control!
I am aware that there is some dispute within the scientific community about the effect of man's actions on climate change and, not being an environmental scientist, I don't feel I am qualified to express a strong opinion one way or the other on that matter. I just think Monckton's accusations that the Copenhagen treaty is actually nothing to do with climate change and is in fact just a large scale international conspiracy with the aim to create a communist world government is a bit extreme.
I am proud of him, the first of our Lords to take a stand like they used to against tyranny, the first defender of the truth in so long. Like one pebble cast into a sea of lies, that shall cause ripples of truth to unite the people. I wish the american people well and hope they do not loose what we already have. Veritas Vos Liberabite
Why does Barack Hussein Obama still have the long version of his Birth Certificate under lock and key! So nobody will know he isn't an American; therefore, was illegally elected. He also doesn't want them to count all the letters in his full name, at birth.
The AntiChrist is about to reveal himself to the World
Ignore the "bad comment" clicks you get. You're exactly right, and unfortunately the ones of us who are truly enlightened as to what is REALLY going on are few and far between.
It doesn't matter what the scoffers may believe. As a Christian I know the signs to look for, and they're unfolding right before our eyes and so many people are lead to the slaughter because of their fear of accepting the truth. All you can do is try to get them saved before it is too late.
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And look at all the crazies here. Look around you. The constant "God is coming!" "pray to Jesus" "I hope you've made right with God" talk should let you know that you're in with a crowd of nutcases.
Disbelief in facts and science... yet they trust some invisible ghost. This is the crowd that thinks like you. They can't fathom global warming, but a guy in the sky that watches them- of course!... just think about it.
Neither do most liberals believe in God. The minority which do happen to believe in God seek to eliminate Him from society. Christianity presents too many rules and restrictions for the liberal left to accept or obey. Read Hebrews 9:27
I think all Christians who don't believe in Global Warming, should pray that on December 7th through the 14th that in Copenhagen God shows the whole world who actually is in charge of the weather.
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Balance the budget. Bring the troops home with a stern warning to leave us alone - one we will not hesitate to use. Protect our borders. Enforce our laws. Stop Earmarks. If you don't like the America our forefathers built for us, simply leave.
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lmao seriously? We're losing nothing- and if we do... let's just move to one of the other 20 MORE free countries that aren't in the shitter right now.
People kill me pretending America is this beautiful most privileged place on earth. It's not.
The tree of liberty has died of dehadration. that is the only "global warming" that has taken place. I am not a botanist so someone please tell me how many communists/liberals it takes to replenish the tree of liberty.
If I didn't beleive that God is Sovereign, and that all this is part of the Plan, I would be horrified... It's all over, folks. Hope you have made your peace with God!
Lord Christopher Monckton also believes that there is no heterosexual transmission of AIDS and he advises people not to use condoms. He is a Catholic extremist, the Catholic equivalent of the Taliban.
Shut up Vierotchka, why dont you read the treaty, he's absolutely right and he's specifically referring to section 38A you jackass. YOU ARE ABOUT TO BE A SLAVE OR DEAD. PERIOD. That is a fact...
No, I will not shut up. I have read the treaty, and his interpretation of it is completely wrong. I am not about to be a slave or dead, but you are already a slave of the liars and because of people like you, we will all die of the consequences of climate change due to global warming. THAT is a fact.
Global warming is not a fact. The sky isn't falling either. But your promotion of the sham is moving the US in the direction of soft tyranny, and that moves us closer to hard tyranny. This affects liberals and conservatives alike, excepting that conservatives aren't headed there willingly.
Vierotchka it doesn't matter what dirt you pull up on this guys past, we can see this happening. The 'new world order' is going to happen it was prophesied. And it won't be pleasant for the common citizen.
While people are saying, 'There is peace and security,' then sudden destruction will come upon them as labor pains come upon a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.
Firstly, if there is any "New World Order" to come, it is precisely because of manipulators like Lord Monckton. Secondly, the "new world order" never was prophecized. Living in irrational fears and zany beliefs the way you do will indeed bring sudden destruction, but only on people like you.
right. Monckton is just out there for your money. kinda like how Al Gore is set up to help chair the World Carbon Exchange, along with Obama puppet masters, Goldman Sachs.
You must be an Obama lover. well, see where you get with your stupidity. The devil has so deceived you. The only manipulator is Obama and his followers like you.
The Minnesota Free Market Institute is a very conservative, tax-exempt advocacy group which absolutely detests Obama and the Democrat Party, and will do anything it can to destroy Obama. Lord Christopher Monckton, Third Viscount Monckton of Brenchley, is an extreme right-wing Thatcherite who detests Labour and who is in the pocket of Big Oil. Don't take him seriously, he is a paid liar and shill.
When a video goes viral the counter gets stuck, it must need a break in the action to update. So watch tomorrow it will be much greater. Thanks for your concern.
you deserve a prize for staying in this comment thread despite the fact everyone here knows you're an annoying asshole and makes no bones about telling you that!!!
Is this where ignorance is bliss comes in to play? I've lost count of how many times governmental leaders have discussed one world system and currency Viero.
REALLY INTERESTING!!!thumbs up! thanks for sharing.. :)
leilajeremiah 2 months ago
Lord Monckton has also, he says, cured AIDS.
watch?v=hl2lShU6zD0
he's an all purpose snake oil salesman.
greenman3610 4 months ago
He forgot the Senate. Also, nothing supercedes the constitution, except an amendment.
zvi303 1 year ago
Being Jewish, the concept of a world government scares me no end. Because when the government turns evil, I need another country to escape to.
zvi303 1 year ago
@zvi303 Relax. A world government will not happen. Look at current world affairs.
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Environmentalism is a evil cult. If you know of someone who has been exploited by this cult you need to get them to watch this video. Only you can stop environmentalism and save humanity.
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What a load of bollocks
meotaku2 1 year ago
Carbon dioxide is just .038 percent of the earth's atmosphere. Human industry produces less than 10 percent of that.
Climate change is driven by the wobble of the earth's axis over a 26,000 year cycle (Precession of the Equinoxes). Do you really think humans caused past ice ages and tropical epochs?
My facts are true. If you really care about climate change, Google Precession of the Equinoxes. And please learn to think, AGW theory is a fraud!
AcePilot101 1 year ago 5
@AcePilot101 Well said.
TheKickerboy99 1 year ago
Reality does not give a shit about your opinions
kallisti27 1 year ago
how is that anyone with an IQ of over 65 can actually believe in AGW?
crazykieran 2 years ago 4
Dogma
CrankCase08 1 year ago
Ok, I re-phrase that. How c\n anyone with an IQ of over 65 buy into all the dogma surrounding global warming? Maybe IQ and free thinking don't come hand in hand. It actually amazes me how many people aren't aware that there is an argument over AGW at all!
crazykieran 1 year ago 3
I've long been mystified how apparently very intelligent people follow religions and believe in God! I imagine it's a flaw in brain construction, wanting to attach oneself to some messianic social movement.
CrankCase08 1 year ago
i honestly have no idea
thedominator1991 1 year ago
Lord Monckton is my hero. I am going to hear him speak in Brisbane next week.
Kihuonca 2 years ago 8
Good WORK Lord Monckton.
I hope that you will noted and honoured as you should be.
Please continue until this matter of Global Warming is sealed to never return again.
So that we can all get back to focusing on local pollution - were we actually can effect change to our local environment, without needing a global carbon tax to do it.
Cheers to you Monckton
weallknowitstrue 2 years ago 19
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Monckton is a nut-job. We all know it's true.
verumlupus 2 years ago
One of the best ways to avoid draconian restrictions on greenhouse gas emissions under a 'one world government' would be to find a way to privately solve the problem. Instead, the Free Market Institute seems to be occupying its energies in sacking the opposition.
charadester 2 years ago
There is no need to restrict greenhouse gasses. This is the false premiss we no longer buy.
buickgn1897 2 years ago 5
Putting the chaos of Copenhagen and the politics aside, what about the data?
charadester 2 years ago
well i'm ready for the rapture
kristophershaun 2 years ago
'Left wing regimes like the European Union..."
What!? Von Rompuy...RCC. Ashton...RCC enabler. Blair, SMOM and RCC.
Obama, a protoge of Brezeznski (SMOM). First real job..distributing funds for Annenbergs (SMOM) fund.
Utter tripe. Nothing more than Inquisition and Counter Reformation, writ Global.
abbesieyes 2 years ago
Blue State Chronicle
Thanks for you Mc.opinion, but the cause of the Pleistocene ice age has been known for the past 20 years.
verumlupus 2 years ago
Very blatant appeal to peoples raw emotions.
Very dramatic and theatric.
Throwing labels around like candy.
Disgusting. Regardless of how little or how much merit his viewpoint has, presenting it in such a manner is revolting, an insult to peoples intelligence.
sheilacow 2 years ago
chestertonfan, while the judges may settle the matter, which i haven't check and am not sure, look at he kind of decisions the supreme court has made. The are not exactly shining conservatives. Personally, i wouldn't hold much faith in the court to uphold the constitution. If anything, they seem to like big government. And as to Climategate, notice how silent the U.S. News networks about it. I've heard a little on Fox from Hannity and the like. Without the internet, we would be clueless.
Atticaflame 2 years ago
hes wrong about the constitution. it does not say that treaties rank higher than the constitution. the constitution is the highest to us. it does say that the US can bind itself to terms of treaties, but not unconstitutionally. however, there is no domestically enforced reprecussion for breaking a treaty.
also, the climate changes up and down, whatever. i dont think it's caused by humans. the system has wonderful recovery mechanisms and anything short of critical mass is essentially moot imo
lhs04 2 years ago
You're right, Ihs04. No mere treaty can override the U.S. Constitution.
Yes, I am aware that some radical legal theorists have claimed the opposite, but they are plainly wrong, and Lord Monckton should not give credence to their lies. According to the U.S. Constitution, treaties must be made "under the authority of the United States," which authority is defined and limited by the Constitution, itself, and may not be extended w/o a constitutional amendment.
chestertonfan 2 years ago
Plus, the U.S. Constitution gives U.S. Federal Courts jurisdiction over "ALL CASES" arising from treaties made under the authority of the United States - which means the SCOTUS trumps any foreign or international court in such cases. Only if we let Obama pack the Court with extreme radicals could the President and Senate get away with trying to amend the Constitution via treaties, in an end-run around the requirements of 2/3 majority in the House and ratification by 3/4 of the States.
chestertonfan 2 years ago
What's more, treaties do not go into effect "with the stroke of a pen." They require a 2/3 majority in the Senate, too, and it is unlikely that Obama could muster 67 Senators to go along with this mostrosity.
chestertonfan 2 years ago
@bdk316 I would appeciate it if you would not use curse. Regarding Lindzen, dispite his impressive career, his latest paper "Lindzen and Choi" is absolute nonsense. It has been thoroughly debunked by James Annan, Chris Colose, and even fellow climate "skeptic" Dr. Spencer.
If you were to look a bit further than the tip of your nose, you would maybe realize that the whole world does not revolve around a pompous Englishmen.
Did you Google the phase I told you ?
TheSkepticThinker 2 years ago
Global warming is the greatest scientific fraud in history. The data is far from conclusive, and we still don't know what caused all the ice ages of the Pleistocene.
BlueStateChronicle 2 years ago 3
If you really want to know what this guy is all about, Google "monckton magical mystery tour".
The facts are clear : Monckton's "science" is completely fabricated, his political views proposterous, and his ego is about the size of the Atlantic Ocean.
And he is funded by the fossil fuel industry.
TheSkepticThinker 2 years ago
Why b/c some radical lib like yourself says so. CO2 is part of the life cycle dumbfuck plants trees etc feed off of it and give O2 for you and the rest of the climategate assholes to breath. And all that data they based their claims on is 1) a lie as we are now learning but 2) they are all based off computer models. How about Dr Lindzen from MIT who used actual data over 20 yrs to disprove them all?!
TBC
bdk316 2 years ago
Tell us genius after who caused the planet to warmup after the last ice age?Was it the dinosaurs that survived running machines&factories that dumped all the CO2 into the atmosphere or was it all the methane they farted out from the meat &plants they ate? Do tell inquiring minds want to know. Oh and there is this thing called the Sun and it goes through temp changes too, so if it get a fraction cooler/hotter what do you think happens here?
You tree hugging libs are on your way to being extinct!
bdk316 2 years ago
If this thing gets signed and passed by our senate, I think it will be just a matter of time before there is a new revolution.
alexeemo 2 years ago 3
Would the treaty still stand if we overthrew the government by force of arms?
I'm just asking...
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
Hiraghm 2 years ago
the ussr tried this with czarist russia's obligations and their argument was rejected. technically, a revolution in govt would not erase the treaty, however, it would only be as binding in domestic law insofar as domestic law (interpreted by the govt) would allow it to be. so, only if they want it to be binding would it be (in domestic law) which is also the way it would be even if there were no revolution. the constitution is supreme even if there are other "superseding" international laws.
lhs04 2 years ago
I support global warming.
tlambert 2 years ago
Who *wouldn't* support global warming?!
There is so much cold in the world, one would hope it would all melt away. The increase in crops such as wheat and corn would be staggering.
Unfortunately, this "global warming" is just wishful thinking: the science doesn't back it up. Which is a shame IMO.
Wejer3 2 years ago 2
Yes, so much of this earth is cold barren and desolate. I have heard that once upon a time greenland was actually "green".
tlambert 2 years ago
Yes, Greenland was green when the Vikings came. However, that was during the Medieval Warm Period (during which temperature was much hotter than today), and before the Little Ice Age struck & freezed the whole island.
Wejer3 2 years ago
The temperature during the Medieval Warm Period was not hotter than today. Check out Wiki.
And while you are checking that, check the 'decline'. The global temperature recorded for 2009 is that it has been one of the three hottest years in human history. The trend has wavered (which is always happening) but over all is still upward.
Still in denial? Google James Balog's TED lecture at Oxford University.
verumlupus 2 years ago
Allow me to throughly debunk you, environmentalist convert, by
giving you the "real" science behind climate change (yes, the one
involving facts, observation and logic).
All presented by Lord Moncton at St: Paul (search for it here on YouTube; it's quite a lengthy one at 1h 36m minutes)
Wejer3 2 years ago
Refer to me as an 'environmentalist convert' and I shall refer to you as a 'Monckey'.
Who to believe, Stern or Mockton?
Monckton - Claimed to be a member of the House of Lords, but isn't. Recieved 0 votes in his attempt to be elected to that body. Is paid by Heartland to dis climate change.
Stern - is a world renowned economist and academic. Is member of the House of Lords, has five honorary degrees and is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. Has no political agenda.
verumlupus 2 years ago
Well, if you want to refute Lord Moncton's arguments out of hand, without listening to him, go ahead; don't expect to get scientific truth though.
As I said, the video is called "Lord Moncton at St: Paul" - it is actually pretty good, you should give it a try.
Wejer3 2 years ago
Well, yes, I have 'given it a try'. Sadly it just confirmed the junk science he subscribes to. Incidentally, I met another former member of the Think Tank he was part of in the 80's recently. When I mentioned Monckton's name he just groaned and said Monckton was a "self-aggrandising lunatic".
verumlupus 2 years ago
@verumlupus
It is interesting how you, in your argument, at the same time invoke an appeal to authority ("another former member of the Think Tank he was part of") as well as an Ad-Hominem attack ("self-aggrandising lunatic")
To be completly frank, I find your attempts at discrediting Lord Christopher Moncton to be completly ridicolous. Allow me to laugh out loud...
Wejer3 2 years ago
You use exactly the same tacktics as Monckton. Interesting.
verumlupus 2 years ago
arguably, everyone on both sides has a political agenda. if stern is in the house of lords, a legislative body, he's got a political agenda. honorary degrees mean you didnt actually do the work to get the degree, you just did the school a favor like speak at commencement or make a documentary about.....you guessed it. climate change. all the credentials you cited for stern means he's the one person who wouldnt step out of "the party line" which says global warming is irrefutable fact.
lhs04 2 years ago
lhs04
You are making so many incorrect assumptions that I hardly know where to start. The subtext is that because you dont believe in climate change then anyone who does is towing the party line and therefore wrong.
verumlupus 2 years ago
please, show me the incorrect assumptions ive made. was it when i said honorary degrees arent real degrees or when i said that Liberals throughout the world argue that climate change is man-made and Conservatives throughout the world argue the opposite? the argument is undeniably a political creature now. if data came out tomorrow saying that the sun was responsible for all the noted change, do you think the data wouldnt be suppressed? think of how many important people's work would be ruined.
lhs04 2 years ago
youre making the incorrect assumptions. i believe in climate change. theres hard data out there being interpreted by smart people who know what theyre doing. i just dont believe that it's mankind's fault or that theres some debt that the 1st world should pay to the 3rd world for having factories. nor is it the place of those scientists to tell me so. and even if it was, paying the debt via new taxes to Liberals who want big government (read: keep it themselves) would be the worst way to do it.
lhs04 2 years ago
If you believe the smart folk who interpret the hard data that climate change is happening, why do you not accept their conclusion that human activity is to blame?
verumlupus 2 years ago
because theres a big difference between sticking a thermometer in a block of ice and isolating the causal origin of a planetary condition ...and then passing a moral judgment to boot. science is great at telling us what but saying why, definitively, is much harder. i hold out for more conclusive data and for now im very skeptical of the sources. these smart people are already guilty of fudging their numbers to coincide with an agenda and most importantly, their politics. one word: FUNDING
onestellarstar 2 years ago
If you are still questioning the science because of the hysteria surrounding the email scam perhaps you should dig a bit deeper. As a starting point check out Potholer 54s youtube contribution - those hacked emails.
Then check how much Saudi Arabia is set to loose if the US develops technology that reduces or eliminates the need for fossil fuels. Whose is the only dissenting voice at Copenhagen? Be careful who you are supporting.
verumlupus 2 years ago
'Lord' Monckton (check his credentials) is no climate scientist - his degree is in classical languages. He was part of a think-tank advising Margaret Thatcher on economics in the 80s. Margaret Thatcher profoundly disagreed with him on climate change (her degree is in chemistry). He is subsidised by the Heartland Institute to rubbish climate change. His agenda is free-market economics.
verumlupus 2 years ago
He never claimed to be.
shedendpussys 2 years ago
...or denied it when he is introduced on Fox news as a climate expert. He is not. He has a strong opinion based on his belief in free-market economics which makes him look for the science that supports his belief. Rather like creationists claiming that fossils are evidence for the deluge.
verumlupus 2 years ago
Ignoor Monckton and political means for a second, if the globe is warming as we speak why are huge icebergs rolling up on the S. Australian coast line without melting?
shedendpussys 2 years ago
This thread is about Monckton and his beliefs, not Global Warming. However, it is true that the Antarctic is breaking up faster than predicted and the ice is moving towards Australia. Your point?
verumlupus 2 years ago
No, the issue here is the EU Co2 tax being pushed because of rapid the 'warming' effect its suposedly causing to the globe i.e. Global Warming, My point is why are icebergs reaching so far north without melting, that would suggest the temperatures in southern areas of AUS and NZ are cooling enough for the ice to even get there, this has not been witnessed since the 30's.
shedendpussys 2 years ago
the idea is, the warmer the earth as a whole gets, the more ice in the antarctic melts enough to break away from wherever it is now. since it's only slightly warmer, that ice will stay in chunks but essentially the fact that it is not in the antarctic anymore is an indication that the temperature at the poles is higher than it used to be. so by bringing up the presence of huge blocks of ice in AUS you've shot yourself in the foot.
lhs04 2 years ago
lhs04
But you are right here.
verumlupus 2 years ago
beacuse of the
shedendpussys 2 years ago
thats just annoying
shedendpussys 2 years ago
I'll agree about the annoying bit. I live in the EU. What is this CO2 'tax' you talk about? All I can tell you is that I'm having to pay more insurance because we've had more disastrous floods costing over $300m in the past three years alone. For more info Google Susan Watts most recent article on the BBC website.
verumlupus 2 years ago
in the north/northwestern EU there's a tax on CO2 emissions, in the rest of the EU there are similar programs (though maybe not necessarily specific to CO2 ...to my knowledge at least) that are part of a comprehensive EU emissions trading scheme. a similar program has been proposed in the US. as for insurance- the cost of your premium is all based on speculation. the more insurance companies get freaked out by al gore and think the world is coming to an end bc of climate change, the more you pay
lhs04 2 years ago
Odd. I live in North-West Europe and I don't know of any taxes on CO2 emissions. But I do know that low emission and clean technology industry is subsidised. Perhaps this is because climate change is so evident over here.
verumlupus 2 years ago
@lhs04
Re Insurance. No - the cost of insurance is based on historical data not speculation. Whether you believe it is as a result of climate change or not, in the past 50 years extreme weather events have increased dramatically where I live. Don't believe me? Google Susan Watts: Insuring against climate change.
verumlupus 2 years ago
yes, historical data is the basis for the decision of whether to insure and at what premium, but the decision is still one about whether they will be able to profit from your premiums against an event in the FUTURE. the more they BELIEVE that event will occur (or will occur w/ higher frequency) whether based on historical data or anything else, the higher your premiums. my bet is the climate change panic is solidifying these company's EXPECTATIONS for disaster whether the numbers show it or not
onestellarstar 2 years ago
Where I live we've had more extreme weather over the past four years than in recorded history. Many of my friends houses were so badly damaged that it took over a year of work before they could even move back in. Is this because the insurance companies have EXPECTATIONS for disaster? Is it because they BELIEVED the event would occur? Do you honestly believe that insurance companies who are constantly looking at ways to reduce premiums and attract customers would be that stupid?
verumlupus 2 years ago
@verumlupus
ad hominem
thrqs 2 years ago
veritas simplex oratio est
verumlupus 2 years ago
This issue is whether the Monckey can be trusted.
verumlupus 2 years ago
the issue is whether the document can be trusted. if you don't trust lord monckton, i think you could read this treaty somewhere, and see for yourself. if this is not possible, then i'm sure you would find that fact to be a red flag. i have known about lord monckton for some time, and in this regard i place faith in his judgement of the wording of the treaty. it seems to me that america has nothing to lose by not signing it, and everything to lose by signing it.
biguglytrux 2 years ago 3
Yes, I have read the document and America has nothing to worry about by signing it, and everything to worry about by not.
verumlupus 2 years ago
well, you seem self-assured, and reassuring. certainly, you and obama and other world leaders wouldn't mind if the united states just took a pass on signing exactly at this point in time, just to study the ramifications a little further...maybe let the legistlatures of our fifty separate states to decide if there's nothing to worry about, such as the overriding of 0ur own u.s. constitutional sovreignty you wouldn't mind, right? nothing to worry about, right? just to get facts straight?
biguglytrux 2 years ago
You are obviously intelligent, but can you honestly say that you are not prejudiced by a right-wing agenda? A prejudiced reason for signing or not signing any bit of legislation is always the wrong reason.
The BBC has a reputation as being unbiased. Go to the BBC News website and type 'a journey through the Earth's climate history into their search facility. Check it out. Your response will be a measure of your objectivity.
verumlupus 2 years ago
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madcat032 2 years ago
The BBC unbias, hahaha don't make me laugh. They are just as bias as any of the major American news networks however they are more covert about it. One example being blaming the last Georgia/Russian conflict on being started by Russia when it was blatantly clear it was started by Georgia with (arguably US/Israeli/UK funding). Get a grip seriously the BBC has an agenda to push like any other corporate or state run news network, stop being so damn naive.
Alexwozere 2 years ago
The BBC is not state funded. It is paid for by a licence fee. It is you who are being naive.
verumlupus 2 years ago
Thanks for the BBC info, very interesting.
grubbi1149 2 years ago
I'll bite. Let's say it all is a hoax. What is the motivation for governments to willingly curb their consumption & promote the hoax? What do they get out of it? Or do they not realize they're shooting themselves in the foot, being deluded and misinformed? And what's the nefarious motive behind the scientists doing the deluding? I've never heard a good answer to these questions.
Also, the US routinely breaks its treaties & agreements. We'll simply ignore it if we ever change our minds.
albertinamel 2 years ago
If no one has answered this fully for you yet I will break it down step by step and answer anything else.
shedendpussys 2 years ago
answer: the motivation is redistribution of wealth, primarily from the United States, primarily, to less developed countries, in the name of "justice", for all of America's "sins" against the rest of the world. It actually has nothing to do with protecting the environment. It has everything to do with diminishing the influence of free markets and free enterprise. The ultimate aim is global socialist dictatorship, with no individual rights to liberty or property.
biguglytrux 2 years ago
Personally, I don't buy that b/c human nature is inherently too selfish to want to give up power in the name of altruism. At least, that has generally been our track record as humans for the past several thousand years. But you're certainly entitled to your opinion.
albertinamel 2 years ago
the ones who are pushing this treaty are not giving up power; they are expanding it for themselves. and Obama figures he can be the first "king of the world", and the bringer of economic justice to the ones who support him and certain classes who voted for him- global labor unions, global socialists, global environmentalists (who, like monckton said, is where the communists went) and blacks, in america, and around the world.and it's disguised as alrtruism.
biguglytrux 2 years ago
Too paranoia-based conspiracy theory for me. In the US, the far-right impinges on people's rights, too (e.g. warrantless wiretaps). Nobody's blameless. Besides, amongst the lefty, granola, tree-huggers, the right to picket & protest & exercise free speech is sacrosanct. Totalitarianism (like Chinese & Soviet communism w/Internet censorship & Tiananmen Sq) is the antithesis of Western liberalism. People confuse liberals for communists WAY too much. (BTW, rich capitalists voted largely for Obama.)
albertinamel 2 years ago
the only protesting to be done, is by the lefty granola tree-huggers. their free speech is the only one allowed. according to them, debate is over; obama does intend to sign this agreement, no matter how many scientists have trashed their data, and no matter how many more scintists say global warming by co2 emissions from man is junk science. for the left, it's not about science. it's about cutting off america at the knees, because we're greedy imperial democracy enforcers & resource exploiters
biguglytrux 2 years ago
Last I checked, there was a huge 9/12 rally just a couple of months ago that got plenty of turnout. Plus, the right wing dominates the airwaves in the US. Hard to argue that their speech is curtailed.
Personally, the ridiculous portrayal of Obama as Lex Luthor is just too fantasy-based for me. And for people on the far-right who want to view him through that lens, there's simply no constructive dialog to be had. It's great for the ratings of TV commentators, though!
albertinamel 2 years ago
@albertinamel right wing dominance of the airwaves? Hardly! The relatively few right-leaning shows have hit a responsive chord with many fed-up Americans and that scares the crap outta the left--who now seeks to gag these shows with the so-called "Fairness Doctrine".
guy48065 2 years ago
there is no right and left just rich and poor
ottojinn 2 years ago
i think albertinamel meant airwaves as in talk radio, which is dominated by the right. however, television and print media is very biased to the left
@albertinamel- i dont think obama is a lex luthor figure but he (in line with Dem platform) wants bigger govt and more taxes. this is no mystery. not totalitarian levels but more than america is used to. putting taxes on production and pollution is a great way to expand govt's wallet, while giving the impression of altruism. Dem tactics as usual
onestellarstar 2 years ago
there is no right or left just poor and rich.
ottojinn 2 years ago
This man is right! Stop the globalization!
deGothiaSweden 2 years ago 14
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What a load of capitalistic and conservative crap hehe. PLEASE do NOT listen to this man.
Wellejus 2 years ago
I have read the drafts. Lord Monckton is very accurate in his depiction of this abomination.
Hamorage 2 years ago 5
and who are you to dictate us what and what not we can hear?
hogadomi 2 years ago
it's horrible- I hear this constant BS on NPR all the time. Stupid state run media. People have no idea what's happening. This is the sacking of ROME (USA) all over again. Our emperors are inept buffoons and are senators and congressmen are hopeless corrupt. Our currency has been debased and the barbarians are at the gate. Here we repeat history yet again. Get ready for another "Dark Age" of war and slavery
1x93cm 2 years ago 7
Wow.
Lord Monckton is a prophet or something.
dgroundhog 2 years ago 8
The Senate needs to ratify any treaties Obama signs. So even if Obama signs it, it isn't a done deal.
Mattsky44 2 years ago 3
Nuh uh buddy, the new international government will assume a higher power than any national law or constitution. Once the President signs it it matters not what your country's laws or Senate says; it's game over.
dollar12 2 years ago
They can assume what ever the well they they want. That doesn't mean the US has to except it. Even if this was true and Obama signs it. He can't force it on the US with out following the US Constitution. I don't like Obama. I didn't vote for him. But the nutty conspiracy stuff is over the top.
Mattsky44 2 years ago
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Please don't fall for these ridiculous conspiracy theories spread by idiots like Monckton.
andyb1728 2 years ago
@andyb1728
andy STFU, seriously, you want to be a slave for junk science, go for it, but don't insult people's intelligence by saying they are crazy if they believe something
WE are to be free, not slaves to no one, why don't you just live in the woods and enjoy your low carbon footprint
chevytheplayer 2 years ago 4
Yes don't fall for the fact these criminals have cooked the numbers, admitted they can't explain the decrease in global temps when they claim it's rising, have conspired to keep those many scientists who disagree with them out of peer review journals, refused to provide the data they claim they have so it can be verified, or are caught planning to delete any information that will prove their crime if caught and are then caught doing all these things in their e-mails! Don't believe this!
leestauf 2 years ago 3
Oh, and these guys like gore are getting rich off this phony global warming! We don't want them in the unemployment line do we? Have a heart! Lets bankrupt the planet for a phony scheme to make them money and give them control!
leestauf 2 years ago 4
I am aware that there is some dispute within the scientific community about the effect of man's actions on climate change and, not being an environmental scientist, I don't feel I am qualified to express a strong opinion one way or the other on that matter. I just think Monckton's accusations that the Copenhagen treaty is actually nothing to do with climate change and is in fact just a large scale international conspiracy with the aim to create a communist world government is a bit extreme.
andyb1728 2 years ago
ever been in EU? socialism is everywhere, from my salary more than 80% is tax
hogadomi 2 years ago
Yes I have been in the EU, I live there in fact. And it's fine. 80% of your salary is taken for tax?? Where the hell do you live??
andyb1728 2 years ago
Thank God for men and women who are still willing to stand up and tell the truth!
As people of my generation say --"Speak truth to power", Lord Monckton!!!!
MsZathras 2 years ago 6
I am proud of him, the first of our Lords to take a stand like they used to against tyranny, the first defender of the truth in so long. Like one pebble cast into a sea of lies, that shall cause ripples of truth to unite the people. I wish the american people well and hope they do not loose what we already have. Veritas Vos Liberabite
ager74 2 years ago 8
Lord Monckton's decency and patriotism outshines that of many American politicians. He is an honorable man.
ACourtRep 2 years ago 10
Why does Barack Hussein Obama still have the long version of his Birth Certificate under lock and key! So nobody will know he isn't an American; therefore, was illegally elected. He also doesn't want them to count all the letters in his full name, at birth.
The AntiChrist is about to reveal himself to the World
BJ1949 2 years ago
BJ , I agree. look me up on face book, Jeanette Wolfe
jeanettey1969 2 years ago
Barry Soetoro has lied to us all BJ.
hiddennewshour 2 years ago 3
@BJ1949:
Ignore the "bad comment" clicks you get. You're exactly right, and unfortunately the ones of us who are truly enlightened as to what is REALLY going on are few and far between.
It doesn't matter what the scoffers may believe. As a Christian I know the signs to look for, and they're unfolding right before our eyes and so many people are lead to the slaughter because of their fear of accepting the truth. All you can do is try to get them saved before it is too late.
God bless.
Recoil816 2 years ago 5
every generation thinks (incorrectly thus far) it's theirs
onestellarstar 2 years ago
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And look at all the crazies here. Look around you. The constant "God is coming!" "pray to Jesus" "I hope you've made right with God" talk should let you know that you're in with a crowd of nutcases.
Disbelief in facts and science... yet they trust some invisible ghost. This is the crowd that thinks like you. They can't fathom global warming, but a guy in the sky that watches them- of course!... just think about it.
elsephen 2 years ago
Hence my assurtation, that those who believe in Global Warming don't believe in God.
M4GW 2 years ago
Neither do most liberals believe in God. The minority which do happen to believe in God seek to eliminate Him from society. Christianity presents too many rules and restrictions for the liberal left to accept or obey. Read Hebrews 9:27
rlmelco 2 years ago
I think all Christians who don't believe in Global Warming, should pray that on December 7th through the 14th that in Copenhagen God shows the whole world who actually is in charge of the weather.
M4GW 2 years ago
lol - well said.
Recoil816 2 years ago
It is unfortunate that you're correct.
"In the last days there would come scoffers, walking after their own lusts."
Could that be more true than it is now?
Recoil816 2 years ago 6
Not so much. I believe there are intelligent people that also believe in God. There may not be a large amount of them...but they do exist.
elsephen 2 years ago
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usrevolution2 2 years ago
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puntbamapunt 2 years ago 5
Freedom is only a word until you lose it, and it looks like that's going to happen.
ONEMANCHU 2 years ago 3
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lmao seriously? We're losing nothing- and if we do... let's just move to one of the other 20 MORE free countries that aren't in the shitter right now.
People kill me pretending America is this beautiful most privileged place on earth. It's not.
elsephen 2 years ago
The tree of liberty has died of dehadration. that is the only "global warming" that has taken place. I am not a botanist so someone please tell me how many communists/liberals it takes to replenish the tree of liberty.
RTGGFY 2 years ago 5
thanks microwavedisplaycom that's a good idea. And please pray because Jesus is coming, and He wants to save you, and all of us.
TheCuppycakedelight5 2 years ago
If I didn't beleive that God is Sovereign, and that all this is part of the Plan, I would be horrified... It's all over, folks. Hope you have made your peace with God!
alhoward1960 2 years ago
well said Howard,. it was a good run while it lasted.
RTGGFY 2 years ago
This country hasn't been "free" since the Civil War, so I don't know how he can be proud to stand on "free soil."
Buanand 2 years ago
This global warming is the biggest scam of all time. Why are their so many Communists and wanna be Communists in my country?
combat1856 2 years ago 8
So this is what the New World Order is. Cant wait for the liberals to argue this one.
combat1856 2 years ago
Obama drones wil not believe this man or any other person who speaks against their shepard Barrack Insane Obozoi
warrenbattistejazz 2 years ago 2
Lord Christopher Monckton also believes that there is no heterosexual transmission of AIDS and he advises people not to use condoms. He is a Catholic extremist, the Catholic equivalent of the Taliban.
Vierotchka 2 years ago
Shut up Vierotchka, why dont you read the treaty, he's absolutely right and he's specifically referring to section 38A you jackass. YOU ARE ABOUT TO BE A SLAVE OR DEAD. PERIOD. That is a fact...
fgj1376 2 years ago 2
No, I will not shut up. I have read the treaty, and his interpretation of it is completely wrong. I am not about to be a slave or dead, but you are already a slave of the liars and because of people like you, we will all die of the consequences of climate change due to global warming. THAT is a fact.
Vierotchka 2 years ago
Global warming is not a fact. The sky isn't falling either. But your promotion of the sham is moving the US in the direction of soft tyranny, and that moves us closer to hard tyranny. This affects liberals and conservatives alike, excepting that conservatives aren't headed there willingly.
hdavis30318 2 years ago
Vierotchka it doesn't matter what dirt you pull up on this guys past, we can see this happening. The 'new world order' is going to happen it was prophesied. And it won't be pleasant for the common citizen.
While people are saying, 'There is peace and security,' then sudden destruction will come upon them as labor pains come upon a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.
kyachris 2 years ago
Firstly, if there is any "New World Order" to come, it is precisely because of manipulators like Lord Monckton. Secondly, the "new world order" never was prophecized. Living in irrational fears and zany beliefs the way you do will indeed bring sudden destruction, but only on people like you.
Vierotchka 2 years ago
right. Monckton is just out there for your money. kinda like how Al Gore is set up to help chair the World Carbon Exchange, along with Obama puppet masters, Goldman Sachs.
jacknapier26 2 years ago
You must be an Obama lover. well, see where you get with your stupidity. The devil has so deceived you. The only manipulator is Obama and his followers like you.
kwelk310 2 years ago 4
The Minnesota Free Market Institute is a very conservative, tax-exempt advocacy group which absolutely detests Obama and the Democrat Party, and will do anything it can to destroy Obama. Lord Christopher Monckton, Third Viscount Monckton of Brenchley, is an extreme right-wing Thatcherite who detests Labour and who is in the pocket of Big Oil. Don't take him seriously, he is a paid liar and shill.
Vierotchka 2 years ago
Thatcher was hacked out of office by the trilateralists....
Obama is starting to live up to the Bilderberg bidding....
Guns need to load and take aim.
slammah2012 2 years ago
and what would that make Al Gore?
jacknapier26 2 years ago
An upright, intelligent and honest man whose concern for the future of humanity is absolutely well-founded.
Vierotchka 2 years ago
you need serious help.
jacknapier26 2 years ago
Actually, those who need serious help are those like you who ascribe to the insanest conspiracy theories.
Vierotchka 2 years ago
"you tube comment fight!!!"
calling Al Gore an "upright, intelligent and honest man with concern for humanity" is the insanest conspiracy theory i've ever heard of!
jacknapier26 2 years ago
Just because you're ignorant to something Vierotchka doent mean it isnt true :)
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OneOfTenVirgins 2 years ago
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M4GW 2 years ago
thanks msiterE . I think you're right. I also only know one other thing we all can and should do: Pray.
TheCuppycakedelight5 2 years ago
what can i do to help stop what Obama's doing? are there petitions?
TheCuppycakedelight5 2 years ago
inform others, buy a gun, learn to use it and hope they dont pull this kinda stuff... but be ready if they do...
msiterE 2 years ago
Write to your 2 US Seantors and politely tell them NOT to vote for this treaty IF it ever does make it to the Senate.
MicrowaveDisplaycom 2 years ago
There is a Problem with the Climate, but that is entirely beside the point.
The Union must stand. We as Americans must do our part, on our own, to decrease the uses of Coal and other fossil fuels.
The Greatest Country in the World, isn't. Especially if we cant stop this Constitution Burning Treaty.
acemantura 2 years ago 2
Tea Party Patriots
jongery 2 years ago
this has had 305 views all day youtube is supressing view counts!
serial1337 2 years ago 2
I watched it @ 305, four times after it still says 305.
Youboob is sure pissing me off, Lets add 20,000 views to that count, shall we?
acemantura 2 years ago
When a video goes viral the counter gets stuck, it must need a break in the action to update. So watch tomorrow it will be much greater. Thanks for your concern.
M4GW 2 years ago
LAMtv said:
"Moronic bullshit. This guy lies regularly."
Do you have anything to back up this statement?
hdavis30318 2 years ago
He's a politician,ergo he lies!
TransVisionVamp 2 years ago
Bush lies, Obama lies, Gore lies, Cheney lies. MIchael Moore lies - politician in training? Churchill lied. JFK lied.
It's not always the messenger. People must use their brains even more to sort out the noise from the facts.
hdavis30318 2 years ago
yea, JFK lied so much he got taken out by the liars. he was cornering the market.
jacknapier26 2 years ago
You deserve a prize for the stupidest statements of all!
Vierotchka 2 years ago
you deserve a prize for staying in this comment thread despite the fact everyone here knows you're an annoying asshole and makes no bones about telling you that!!!
jacknapier26 2 years ago
Is this where ignorance is bliss comes in to play? I've lost count of how many times governmental leaders have discussed one world system and currency Viero.
kyachris 2 years ago
yawn nobody cares it will pass
soloM81 2 years ago