I have a civil war replica sword, it's strait 9/10 of the way up,but the last bit is slightly curved. It almost looks like a katana that is very thick, it has a wood grip and a hand guard (that brass thing that is around the hilt.) any help on finding out what the hell it is?
the circle itself reflects true western martial art, simple and straight to the point; far more easier to perform and understand than those ridiculous chinese and japanese swordsman skills
@flysnake12 skills are the same; philosophies are the same, they just make it sound more complicated. in war, you are fighting in closely packed formations, so many of the chinese techniques which required a lot of room for movements are not even practical
@chwuwd If you knew anything about Chinese and Japanese martial art you would have realize that they are simple and straight to the point and that all martial art mechanics are the same. Every where, martial art is the same thing, only superficial cultural details change. The human body work the same where ever you are. You are just a ignorant amerifag, a bigot and a douche bag. Fuck off!
yeah he brings up a good point about praticing with the off in front by the waist being that it was designed to be used on horseback
but although this sword was meant for horseback I feel having the off hand close to the front of the body meant he could parry a straight thrust with his off hand plus the off hand being there could mean being able to reach for a secound weapon
another thought most would not think about is the off hand there would help to remind the soldier of his breathing
in that war, men on foot with swords would not last long. only cavalry could out run such intense musket fire and fly around the land engaging the foes cavalry. then it was just a mix of sabres and pistols mostly.so a sword would naturally be more effective!
I question the credibility of South Carolina Confed Relic Room & and Military Museum and South Carolina Budget and Control Board. Tomorrow you will hear how the south won the Civil War.
Your comment that George Patton's book on sabre instruction was in use by both North & South is somewhat incorrect.
In 1914, the office of the Chief of Staff for the U.S. War Department published a small, pocket-sized book entitled Saber Exercise, written by Second Lieutenant George S. Patton, Jr., Master of the Sword at the Mounted Service School, Fifteenth Cavalry.
I get annoyed when so called 'credible' sources get it so wrong. The Patton mentioned above is the same General Patton of WWII fame. He was a sabre instructor back before WWI. I have a copy of the booklet that was mentioned in the clip. You can download it. It always pays to do your research.
@marktegan You are have the wrong George Patton and the wrong book in mind and are confusing the American civil war with WWII. The Patton family fought in many wars thru multiple generations and several were named George. More than one book was written about swords.
Very cool, didn't realize the cavalry sabers weighed so differently than a foot soldier's saber, of the previous centuries. Wonder how necessary that really was...I guess to give the strokes enough bite from the unsteady movements while on horseback? Three layers of clothing CAN be a bit to cut through...what do you think?
I understand from my personal research than when on horseback the momentum of the horse's speed is enough to carry the blow and is more of a situation of been able to hold the blade than actually delivering fast cuts.Reason why the Bristish adopted later the finer stabing blade type sword ca.1873 because after stabing with it,it was much easier to retain it and pull it out.Another misconception is that the horse was not employ as you'll swung around the sword,when that would hve.been practical
Not knowing that exactly ...- but its seems that you almost anwser your own question. A light sword at higher speed is easier (to fend or) bounce off .. or it just break because the blade gets a full stop of the target or other blade. While a heavy blade due its mass can maintain it trusting or blow speed and can cut , trust deeper. But to hold the sword straight great wrist and arms are needed indeed.
saber at the time were blunt weapons more designed to direct troops and in the case of combat break bones than to actually cut since if your blade was sharp and cut into your enemy but failed to slice through one would lose his saber so the weight was to add force and to help break bones. There were however a few occasions in the west that sabers were sharpened however but saber combat just like bayonet charges were a rare and last ditch effort
@fatmonk1 Very fine edge don't last as long. Very wide edge could appear to not be sharpened. Some user may have let them go dull as well. But all sword and bayonet are sharp and are intended to cut and pierce. If you only care about breaking bone, you can swing your rifle, it work as good.
tx for sharing - the wrist breaking story is valid from my experience - using a heavy weapon one handed prerequisites a strong wrist - or pain ... even more whilst using a heavy saber from a horseback - a pitty that we lost most of the trainings concept for those kind of weapons (excepting sport fenceing of course)...
Worth considering other sources and manuals.I didn't understood well your comment on having a strong wrist,since combact weapons required the use of the whole arm instead of the wrist like in modern sport fencing,at least as far as it has been explain to me.Also common in other disciplines like kenjutsu or kendo.Then again how different is it from the Hungarian sabre manual?
That is actually the Scottish Regimental Broadsword 7 count, you acatually can fight in the scottish style with these.
asraven70 7 months ago
I have a civil war replica sword, it's strait 9/10 of the way up,but the last bit is slightly curved. It almost looks like a katana that is very thick, it has a wood grip and a hand guard (that brass thing that is around the hilt.) any help on finding out what the hell it is?
PresidentDRCI 9 months ago
this is a good video, well done,so much better informed than the vast majority on you tube re swords
kendosendo 10 months ago
I do wonder how much the sword was used in actual battle. Very interesting that swords were used until so recently in war.
Ramshobraja 10 months ago
Awesome. I taught myself the six basic face cuts, and I'm glad that it was accurate to what the experts say.
It IS pretty rough- tends to tear a hole in the skin of the middle part of your thumb and the flesh right behind the joint of your pinky.
Unless you're doing this gloved. Then it's just a bear of a shoulder and back muscle exercise.
MerlinsJester 11 months ago
is this at a museum or something?
ewbecht 1 year ago
the circle itself reflects true western martial art, simple and straight to the point; far more easier to perform and understand than those ridiculous chinese and japanese swordsman skills
chwuwd 1 year ago
@chwuwd but they are more skilled
flysnake12 1 year ago
@flysnake12 skills are the same; philosophies are the same, they just make it sound more complicated. in war, you are fighting in closely packed formations, so many of the chinese techniques which required a lot of room for movements are not even practical
chwuwd 1 year ago
@chwuwd If you knew anything about Chinese and Japanese martial art you would have realize that they are simple and straight to the point and that all martial art mechanics are the same. Every where, martial art is the same thing, only superficial cultural details change. The human body work the same where ever you are. You are just a ignorant amerifag, a bigot and a douche bag. Fuck off!
newtubetubetube 1 year ago
yeah he brings up a good point about praticing with the off in front by the waist being that it was designed to be used on horseback
but although this sword was meant for horseback I feel having the off hand close to the front of the body meant he could parry a straight thrust with his off hand plus the off hand being there could mean being able to reach for a secound weapon
another thought most would not think about is the off hand there would help to remind the soldier of his breathing
NewZealfighter 1 year ago
in that war, men on foot with swords would not last long. only cavalry could out run such intense musket fire and fly around the land engaging the foes cavalry. then it was just a mix of sabres and pistols mostly.so a sword would naturally be more effective!
acerb45666555 1 year ago
I question the credibility of South Carolina Confed Relic Room & and Military Museum and South Carolina Budget and Control Board. Tomorrow you will hear how the south won the Civil War.
hkrivell 1 year ago
Your comment that George Patton's book on sabre instruction was in use by both North & South is somewhat incorrect.
In 1914, the office of the Chief of Staff for the U.S. War Department published a small, pocket-sized book entitled Saber Exercise, written by Second Lieutenant George S. Patton, Jr., Master of the Sword at the Mounted Service School, Fifteenth Cavalry.
So this needs to be revised.
marktegan 2 years ago
Right Mark, this guy is talking about the civil war sabre techniques that they got from the future, lol.
kit40 2 years ago
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marktegan 2 years ago
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I get annoyed when so called 'credible' sources get it so wrong. The Patton mentioned above is the same General Patton of WWII fame. He was a sabre instructor back before WWI. I have a copy of the booklet that was mentioned in the clip. You can download it. It always pays to do your research.
marktegan 2 years ago
@marktegan You are have the wrong George Patton and the wrong book in mind and are confusing the American civil war with WWII. The Patton family fought in many wars thru multiple generations and several were named George. More than one book was written about swords.
ugabosch1 1 year ago
without a strong wrist, it´s impossible to use a one handed weapon. In the vid itself, the guy is talking about "wrist breaker"....
zukuru 2 years ago
Very cool, didn't realize the cavalry sabers weighed so differently than a foot soldier's saber, of the previous centuries. Wonder how necessary that really was...I guess to give the strokes enough bite from the unsteady movements while on horseback? Three layers of clothing CAN be a bit to cut through...what do you think?
Danpaco 2 years ago
I understand from my personal research than when on horseback the momentum of the horse's speed is enough to carry the blow and is more of a situation of been able to hold the blade than actually delivering fast cuts.Reason why the Bristish adopted later the finer stabing blade type sword ca.1873 because after stabing with it,it was much easier to retain it and pull it out.Another misconception is that the horse was not employ as you'll swung around the sword,when that would hve.been practical
kibaloboferoz 2 years ago
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viowave 2 years ago
Not knowing that exactly ...- but its seems that you almost anwser your own question. A light sword at higher speed is easier (to fend or) bounce off .. or it just break because the blade gets a full stop of the target or other blade. While a heavy blade due its mass can maintain it trusting or blow speed and can cut , trust deeper. But to hold the sword straight great wrist and arms are needed indeed.
viowave 2 years ago
saber at the time were blunt weapons more designed to direct troops and in the case of combat break bones than to actually cut since if your blade was sharp and cut into your enemy but failed to slice through one would lose his saber so the weight was to add force and to help break bones. There were however a few occasions in the west that sabers were sharpened however but saber combat just like bayonet charges were a rare and last ditch effort
fatmonk1 2 years ago
@fatmonk1 Very fine edge don't last as long. Very wide edge could appear to not be sharpened. Some user may have let them go dull as well. But all sword and bayonet are sharp and are intended to cut and pierce. If you only care about breaking bone, you can swing your rifle, it work as good.
newtubetubetube 1 year ago
tx for sharing - the wrist breaking story is valid from my experience - using a heavy weapon one handed prerequisites a strong wrist - or pain ... even more whilst using a heavy saber from a horseback - a pitty that we lost most of the trainings concept for those kind of weapons (excepting sport fenceing of course)...
zukuru 3 years ago
Worth considering other sources and manuals.I didn't understood well your comment on having a strong wrist,since combact weapons required the use of the whole arm instead of the wrist like in modern sport fencing,at least as far as it has been explain to me.Also common in other disciplines like kenjutsu or kendo.Then again how different is it from the Hungarian sabre manual?
kibaloboferoz 2 years ago