regardless of what the situation is in these places now ... not mentioning the fact that most of these holy places probably had the shit kicked out of them during the cultural revolution and have only just been rebuilt in the past few decades is a pretty dishonest lie of omission
More is less, and less is more. If you know more about the complicated reality, you find it hard to have a crisp conclusion. If you know little of it, you just jump to your careless conclusion without any difficulties.
I find reason y chinese people take offence from free tibet is because, I find on the news, they basically have no rites, thats wat i fiind, feel free to criticize
This has not been true for 60 years now. Europe is no longer imperialist. It is true that capitalism is often accompanied by corrupt, even dishonorable and deplorable behaviors. But Europe is no longer imperialist and neither is America.
The Beijing Olympics was the best obvious experience for thousands of worldwide people to visit & or participate in.Millions of international people together,!!!!!
I have been to Tibet and I know much more about it than the stupid Americans in this video. Chinese Soldiers routinely rape Tibetans and force them to have abortions and sterilizations with no anesthesia. The CCP, Chinese Communist Party is responsible for killing MILLIONS of Chinese people, their own people, let alone what they have done to the ethnic Tibetans. The world will not continue to allow China to grow its economy and also continue to abuse its own people and environment.
It is impossible to go to all of Tibet and film it because the Chinese government won't allow it. That IS the point. There is no way to avoid military checkpoints and the force of the People's Liberation Army that is occupying Tibet. I have filmed as much of Tibet as possible and if you are interested in seeing it, go to my channel and look at my films.
Very clever insertion of Pro-chinese propaganda titbits every now and then, hallmarks of a very tactful government machine. Dont think we are fooled. I am ready to believe this whole trip was in fact arranged by agents of the PRC unless you can prove otherwise
Thank you for giving you own honest assessment and experience of the Tibet controversy. It is a complex issue and people need to be educated before blindly siding.
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Tibetans keeping pictures of Mao is a sign that Tibetans, especially in TAR, are still living under Cultural Revolution era oppression. You spend a few days and think what you see is all there is to reality? These two Americans are a disgrace to the ideals of their founding fathers.
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How much did you two get paid from the CCP coffers? What business contracts did you get? Did you know that Stalin called people like you "useful idiots" and "blind deaf mutes"?
Stalin coined these terms for leftists using the freedoms of democratic societies and the benefits of capitalism to defend totalitarian and authoritarian dictators. I am just the reverse. You need a bigger brain to understand that!
I live in UK, supporting myself and my family through hardwork. I don't need to stoop to the level of these two "useful idiots" to make a living.
I really can't help but laugh at your lack of ability to put history into context. I recommend learning history from both sides and actively question what other tell you as "truth".
Tibetans in exile will never understand the true Tibet and unfortunately they will never have their way either.
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Tibetans in exile have the freedom to read anything,and think and express themselves in any way because they live in free and democratic countries. They are not intellectually limited by years of introctrination in Communist/totalitarian schools that prevents the Chinese from getting broader perspectives. Most Chinese are stuck in the history that they learned in the schools. Even when they come to free countries, all they can utter is the propaganda they learned in the schools.
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lol, they drugged the man...now he's seen shangrila utopians worshipping mao, someone even chinese r not into to talk abt these days. how appalling! what can i say? reality is distant from ideals.
If you think the Tibetans praising Mao is fake and CCP-planted, think this:
My grandmother, and my relatives of her generation speaks well of Mao and the CCP on all matters, even now. My grandmother still has a statue of Mao at home. Why? Because CCP did make the lives of proletarians by equalising wealth.
My parents (who've been in Australia for over 10 years) also speak well of CCP on most issues. They appreciate CCP leading the economic development in China.
Very good video. I think it shows the complexity of this world too, as growth does change things including culture. Even if it's not due to communist party, it'll change also. I'll visit Tibet to see if with my own eyes before I stand on either sides.
Why very rare ppl try to think and find out the truth like those two American. Good diary. If you really concern about Tibet, go to there or at least go to learn it by yourself, not just from the media.
regardless of what the situation is in these places now ... not mentioning the fact that most of these holy places probably had the shit kicked out of them during the cultural revolution and have only just been rebuilt in the past few decades is a pretty dishonest lie of omission
rvaughanwilliams1988 4 months ago
why does it have to be budweiser?
taitoufeiguo 11 months ago
More is less, and less is more. If you know more about the complicated reality, you find it hard to have a crisp conclusion. If you know little of it, you just jump to your careless conclusion without any difficulties.
freemangreen06 1 year ago
free tibet is god,if you do not agree with free tibet,you are the liar
qq1650 2 years ago
I find reason y chinese people take offence from free tibet is because, I find on the news, they basically have no rites, thats wat i fiind, feel free to criticize
sirrington 2 years ago
white fuckers always want to divide and conquer. maybe we should divide and conquer their pussies.
virtuous8 2 years ago
@virtuous8
This is not true.
This has not been true for 60 years now. Europe is no longer imperialist. It is true that capitalism is often accompanied by corrupt, even dishonorable and deplorable behaviors. But Europe is no longer imperialist and neither is America.
GARNETSODA 2 years ago
The Beijing Olympics was the best obvious experience for thousands of worldwide people to visit & or participate in.Millions of international people together,!!!!!
CulturePeaceForever 2 years ago
Wow,such a lively place for "tourists"since only they are there,should be a long line of people in most monasterys!
CulturePeaceForever 2 years ago
CCP crap on a stick!
unit45x 3 years ago
I have been to Tibet and I know much more about it than the stupid Americans in this video. Chinese Soldiers routinely rape Tibetans and force them to have abortions and sterilizations with no anesthesia. The CCP, Chinese Communist Party is responsible for killing MILLIONS of Chinese people, their own people, let alone what they have done to the ethnic Tibetans. The world will not continue to allow China to grow its economy and also continue to abuse its own people and environment.
unit45x 3 years ago
Bullshit!
Wellpinit 3 years ago
This Doesn't prove the point go to Tibet film it all, and show it to the public.
Free Tibet (of carbon emissions)
sirrington 2 years ago
It is impossible to go to all of Tibet and film it because the Chinese government won't allow it. That IS the point. There is no way to avoid military checkpoints and the force of the People's Liberation Army that is occupying Tibet. I have filmed as much of Tibet as possible and if you are interested in seeing it, go to my channel and look at my films.
unit45x
unit45x 2 years ago
Woh, bravo.
Very clever insertion of Pro-chinese propaganda titbits every now and then, hallmarks of a very tactful government machine. Dont think we are fooled. I am ready to believe this whole trip was in fact arranged by agents of the PRC unless you can prove otherwise
lhakylou 3 years ago
Thank you for giving you own honest assessment and experience of the Tibet controversy. It is a complex issue and people need to be educated before blindly siding.
cusucceed 3 years ago 4
Brave Americans!!! This is an example of the true spirit of freedom and honesty. Well done!!!
Put an end the brutal "Free Tibet" movement.
babeebee 3 years ago 12
My condolences for the Earth Quake victims.
LAYGPOT 3 years ago
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Tibetans keeping pictures of Mao is a sign that Tibetans, especially in TAR, are still living under Cultural Revolution era oppression. You spend a few days and think what you see is all there is to reality? These two Americans are a disgrace to the ideals of their founding fathers.
LAYGPOT 3 years ago
Just like how Americans still having pictures of Lincoln means they are living in the Lincoln era???
indestruktible 3 years ago 2
Again, I just want to say you seem to be so separated from reality that any reasonable discussion would be a waste of time.
My prayers for all Chinese, including Tibetans, who lost their lives in the tragic earthquake
northeasternchinese 3 years ago
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You take advantage of Tibetan hospitality and puke out this shitty Chinese propaganda?
LAYGPOT 3 years ago
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How much did you two get paid from the CCP coffers? What business contracts did you get? Did you know that Stalin called people like you "useful idiots" and "blind deaf mutes"?
LAYGPOT 3 years ago
and how much are you getting paid by your government in exile?
what a useful idiot -- blind, deaf and mute you are that is.
northeasternchinese 3 years ago
Stalin coined these terms for leftists using the freedoms of democratic societies and the benefits of capitalism to defend totalitarian and authoritarian dictators. I am just the reverse. You need a bigger brain to understand that!
I live in UK, supporting myself and my family through hardwork. I don't need to stoop to the level of these two "useful idiots" to make a living.
LAYGPOT 3 years ago
oh yes all of us Chinese living aboard depend on posting comments on youtube and not hardwork.
You know, when you think you are 100% righteous, there bound to be something wrong, for nothing is absolute.
I have sympathy for you.
northeasternchinese 3 years ago
In this 60 years, most of Asian countries have developed without China's invasion(liberation).
YAPONLUQ 3 years ago
So before 60 yrs, have you seen any invasion done by China to any asian countries?
murongdongfang 3 years ago
Yes. China invaded Mongolia and Eastern Tibet. Then you invaded Central Tibet in 1950, India in 1962 and Vietnam in 1979.
LAYGPOT 3 years ago
I really can't help but laugh at your lack of ability to put history into context. I recommend learning history from both sides and actively question what other tell you as "truth".
Tibetans in exile will never understand the true Tibet and unfortunately they will never have their way either.
northeasternchinese 3 years ago
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Tibetans in exile have the freedom to read anything,and think and express themselves in any way because they live in free and democratic countries. They are not intellectually limited by years of introctrination in Communist/totalitarian schools that prevents the Chinese from getting broader perspectives. Most Chinese are stuck in the history that they learned in the schools. Even when they come to free countries, all they can utter is the propaganda they learned in the schools.
LAYGPOT 3 years ago
I could well substituted certain words in your comment and throw it right back to you as well.
LOL.
northeasternchinese 3 years ago
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lol, they drugged the man...now he's seen shangrila utopians worshipping mao, someone even chinese r not into to talk abt these days. how appalling! what can i say? reality is distant from ideals.
howlingpunkin 3 years ago
If you think the Tibetans praising Mao is fake and CCP-planted, think this:
My grandmother, and my relatives of her generation speaks well of Mao and the CCP on all matters, even now. My grandmother still has a statue of Mao at home. Why? Because CCP did make the lives of proletarians by equalising wealth.
My parents (who've been in Australia for over 10 years) also speak well of CCP on most issues. They appreciate CCP leading the economic development in China.
Do you understand us?
jimy327 3 years ago
thanks if you're wishing the Chinese people well
witchxtard1 3 years ago
Great diary!!
seekingmia 3 years ago
Very good video. I think it shows the complexity of this world too, as growth does change things including culture. Even if it's not due to communist party, it'll change also. I'll visit Tibet to see if with my own eyes before I stand on either sides.
puresports2008 3 years ago 8
That's all we, the Chinese, can ask for.
jimy327 3 years ago
free china is free tibet. because tibet is part of china
tcl2010 3 years ago
It is the reality~
everemember 3 years ago
krsnapunk
You are not discussing the facts but labeling the story teller. Is this a right attitude to get your message across?
matt120930 3 years ago
fuck off!
Americans fucked Mexico and you are counting money for Americans
electronixtar 3 years ago
calm down. FREE your mind first and enjoy this great video.
sunyk02 3 years ago
Why very rare ppl try to think and find out the truth like those two American. Good diary. If you really concern about Tibet, go to there or at least go to learn it by yourself, not just from the media.
Joopitr 3 years ago
great video. Especially from 5.18. The Moge's words at 7.28 are very impressive.
kazumajun19 3 years ago
Great diary!!
robert200789 3 years ago
Very wise words by Katie (?) at around 9:00.
Basic wisdom I believe in: The more I know, the less valid my opinions seem to become.
asw654 3 years ago