großartig, ganz toll!!!! ein riesiges musikalisches lob! wir (alles musker) teilen das gerade alle auf facebook ! vielen vielen dank für diese perle !!!!! iris wehner aus berlin:-) thanx a lot for this great and perfect composision :-)
Eres tan estupido de verdad, Ted van Leeuwen, eres tan estupido...o no es asi? No es asi que empezé a decir que tengo que defender el interes de AJAX? No es asi que empezé a decir que hemos hecho compromisos con los jugadores? (....) Porqué me ...haces esas preguntas? So yo el listo o eres tu el tonto? El caso es que tengo un compromiso con esos jugadores. Y quien tiene la derecha a decir algo a cerca de los jugadores si esos jugadores no quieren eso? Oh, oh, oh, oh. (......)
Are you really that stupid, Ted van Leeuwen? Are you really that stupid?
Didn't I start with telling that I'm here for Ajax. Didn't I start with telling that we have agreements with the players. Then why do you ask this question?
Am I that smart or are you that stupid?
Because I have an agreement with those players. And who has the right to talk about the players, if the players don't what that. Oh Oh Oh Oh.
I thought I explained everything perfectly. But now I am an arrogant as.shole.
Are you that stupid?! Ted van leeuwen, are you that stupid or what? Didn't i start by telling that i have to protect the best interest of Ajax? Didn't i start by telling that we made deals with the players? Why do you ask this question!? Am I that smart or are you that dumb!? I made a deal with those players. And who are you to tell things about them when they don't want that?
volgens mij heb ik het toch keurig verwoord...nu ben ik weer de arogante klootzak de authoritaire klootzak maar dat zijn allemaal domme vragen van Chris en van jou net! je moet nu bij Theo van Seggelen zijn niet bij mij!Ja goed als je´t niet begrijpt...sorrie...ho maar...ik heb het goed verwoord...je mag het opschrijven...je mag nog je commentaar d´rop geven...best!
Ben je nou zo dom...Ted van Leuwen...ben je nou zo dom...of is het niet?
Ben ik niet begonnen met te zeggen dat ik de belangen van Ajax moet verdedigen?Ben ik niet begonnen met te te zeggen dat wij met spelers afspraken hebben?Waarom stel je dan deze vraag?Ben ik nou degene die zo slim is of ben jij zo dom?Ik heb naamelijk met die spelers een afspraak...en wie geeft het recht om over die spelers wat te zeggen als die spelers dat niet willen?...Ag ag ag ag...
@Felix2036 Felix, you don't know how much I love this clip! When I feel sad, I just start this video and afterwards I feel happy again. True story! Thanks once again!
Absolutely brilliant, a piece of art. I just wish I could fully understand what he is saying. Being from south Germany I can only understand a few words.
Thanks for all your feedback! I made this clip almost a year ago, but it's still popular, which is hilarious in itself, of course. So to answer some of your questions right here: no, I did not change the sound of his voice. Didn't use autotune or other pitch correcting software. I only quantized the syllables ever so slightly (usually to the nearest 16th note) to make arranging of the music a little easier. Yes, I composed the music. I used Ableton Live to record itl. Hope that helped. x, Felix
@Felix2036 Hi Felix2036: Your clip was broadcasted last night on Harald Schmidts Late Night Show on German TV (ARD) and made the audience jump. Congratulations, you did extremely well transcribing Louis´ indignant reaction to a silly sports reporter into this jazzy little ditty. BEST! Two thumbs up, mate. Greetings from München.
@openswimmer: Wow, that's great! By the way: in my opinion the reporter's question wasn't silly at all. It's van Gaal's ego that's just too large, that what makes his childish rants so ridiculous. And of course they are perfect material for pastiches and mashups, so as a matter of fact I am quite grateful.
@Felix2036 You´re right there. Let´s wait and hear what his official "Meister"-speech in German will sound like after the last Bundesliga game (plus the Champions League Final and the DFB-Pokal Final..?). Maybe you can come up with another Jazz-Beauty on that? Looking so much forward to it. Cheers.
leuk gedaan, man...het haalt een beetje de neerbuigende en hooghartige toon weg, die deze man heeft....snap sowieso niet dat mensen zich zo laten neersabelen door dit chagrijn, die in feite zeer onzeker is,anders zou je je niet als macho gedragen
Arnd Zeigler works for a radio station in Bremen. He makes a kind of comedy on the radio. He mixes original interviews of Players an Coaches with his own comments.
wow... didn't know that they watched this in Germany as well... hahah! I made this clip just for fun, but it seems to have a life of it's own by now. Can I watch his program somewhere on internet?
well youve got to know, van gaal actually is part of a discussion about the momentary bad-case of bayern munich...thats one reason why hes often shown in german tv-shows!
Hello, what means for fun. I play piano and there are very strange chords in it. Did you compose that? It`s great. And there is a lot of work in it. I would be happy for an answer.....
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Translation to spanish or english, please!
mbcrra 3 weeks ago
sehr gutes video ^^ louis ist der beste
bornbefore1900 3 weeks ago
no idea what he's saying but I'll buy his album any day.
NainGeantMiniature 1 month ago
My God, it's perfect.
redcthulhu 1 month ago 4
najo ich bin blond
ValeriManypq701 2 months ago
The less i understand the funnier it gets
seldard 3 months ago
Jeeezus, dit is knap!!!!!!!!! En ongelofelijk grappig!!!
musician1971a 4 months ago
mmh ich bin total naja wie soll ich sagen reich
LianaHedwigxs417 4 months ago
naja bin aus hamburg
ShastaOdellpn306 5 months ago
en hoe kunnen 8 mensen deze video niet leuk vinden???
ik heb hem nu al drie keer gezien en lach me eigen helemaal rot... :D
guentherstoll 6 months ago
dit is echt lachen...hoe kom je erbij??? XD
ik trouwens en viedeoantwoord gepost zou je die alstjeblieft accepteren?
groetjes uit duitsland felix ;)
guentherstoll 6 months ago
genial !!!!!!!
Karpacz3 6 months ago
Wow, wat goed!!! Ik vond je website via de Korg m3 die je te koop had, en kwam uiteindelijk bij de youtubefilmpjes. Ik vind deze echt SUBLIEM!!!
Roeleke
Twirretwarre 8 months ago
Schnappatmung! Ich bekomme keine Luft vor lachen! Hilfe!
vocalexpress 8 months ago
xD dit doet me denken aan 1910
eeyk1993 9 months ago
Geniaal!
SonOfASubmariner27 10 months ago
brilliant!!
pvnrt2 10 months ago
Dit is briljant! Doet me denken aan improvisaties zoals Bert van den Brink ze doet :)
Dandymusic81 10 months ago
You are brilliant, man. Really do more stuff like this. So skilled and enthusiastic playing.
robertmintmusic 10 months ago
großartig, ganz toll!!!! ein riesiges musikalisches lob! wir (alles musker) teilen das gerade alle auf facebook ! vielen vielen dank für diese perle !!!!! iris wehner aus berlin:-) thanx a lot for this great and perfect composision :-)
irimaus 10 months ago
zelf gemaakt??
please go on to do so!!!
PUUUUURE MUSIC!!!!
hellaganda 10 months ago
stukje vanaf 0:18 swingt ook zo lekker hahaha
TonyTritone 10 months ago
haha prachtig? buiten dat het grappig is zitten er een paar hele leuke akkoorden tussen.
TonyTritone 10 months ago
Ich freu mich schon drauf wenn er bei den Bayern ma richtig ausrarstet in der PK.. Das wird sicher Trappatoni 2^^
teMpLa2k7 11 months ago
752 mensen zijn slim, 8 mensen zijn dom
Harm94 1 year ago
hahahahaha doet n btje denken aan pianobegeleiding bij stomme films uit de jaren 20
alleen is deze acteur toevallig wel goed hoorbaar :)
lela04 1 year ago
min 0:07 - 0:12 LOLLL
plutonesmiplaneta 1 year ago
jajaxd
JuliusMuniesa 1 year ago
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ostresdemar 1 year ago
onzin op muziek
nachtbericht 1 year ago
jajajaj buenisimo xd
santiggl 1 year ago
I have watched this all day!! it is fantastic!!!
NickSayle 1 year ago
van gaal saw this?
salvatrin 1 year ago
fantastic job ,simply great hahahahahahaha
salvatrin 1 year ago
this is fantastic, thanks!
EyeNoiseProject 1 year ago
salsarosi 1 year ago
de eerste helft was geweldig! de tweede helft 'zong' louis' nie zo
reconz91 1 year ago
OJ OJ OJ OOJ !
HtoneFG 1 year ago
hahahahaha I don't understand a word about the "lyrics", but the music is great!! XDDD
lamarga1 1 year ago
he,s a couldn,t care less ajajajjjjaj
zejijunto 1 year ago
Thanks! Incredible video, and GREAT GREATJOB !!! thanks to COMPOSER !!! AMAZING!!!
tomakychu 1 year ago
вахахах.Классно ! Худой кстати ещё...
интересно где он так?
mail814 1 year ago
Waarom zitten hier zoveel mensen die niet eens nederlands zijn?
Why are there somany people here who are not even dutch?
Ik dacht, ik vertaal maar ff wat ik zei =P
FierceGriffon 1 year ago
Bravo!!
tatintrumpet 1 year ago
Are you really that stupid, Ted van Leeuwen? Are you really that stupid?
Didn't I start with telling that I'm here for Ajax. Didn't I start with telling that we have agreements with the players. Then why do you ask this question?
Am I that smart or are you that stupid?
Because I have an agreement with those players. And who has the right to talk about the players, if the players don't what that. Oh Oh Oh Oh.
I thought I explained everything perfectly. But now I am an arrogant as.shole.
paquitolo 1 year ago
Hey Felix, ben ik nou zo slim of ben jij nou zo muzikaal? :-D Erg gaaf gedaan dit!!!!!!!!! ROFL
Emtoeduheikel 1 year ago
Autotune this.
evilmoofin 1 year ago
De eerste 15 seconden waren echt gewoon HILARISCH!!
en de laatste 15 seconden ook dat waren gewoon de beste momenten
toen lag ik namelijk in een deuk van het lachen!
Heel erg goed gedaan
[offtopic] Ik ben 10 jaar
TheTheRay 1 year ago
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Zensationale 1 year ago
Genial music improvisation.
Zensationale 1 year ago
0:10 bis 0:15
stevenbitter 1 year ago
danke an die verrückten holländer!
hellema gak :P
xetzxetzxetz 1 year ago
torna al barça van gaal!!
putamadreostia 1 year ago
geweldig!
DJCharpMusic 1 year ago
uchija
deaththekid7777 1 year ago
this is genius. PURE GENIUS.
monsterwins 1 year ago
deze vind ik echt het beste van die "Op muziek" flimpjes
Fuzoin7898 1 year ago
6 mensen vonden deze video niet leuk.... misschien vrienden van Louis?
Pazzknallie 1 year ago 9
@Pazzknallie : Of mensen die niet van muziek houden. Da's erger. :-)
Felix2036 1 year ago 10
@Pazzknallie Vast louis die 6 accounts heeft gemaakt ;)
Bazartheone 1 year ago
@Pazzknallie Of Louis zelf xD
xMissRadcliffe 1 year ago
@Pazzknallie hHAHAHAH ja inderdaad... maar aan de andere kant, vrienden van Louis zouden trots moeten zijn op z'n zangkunsten ;-)
salsarosi 1 year ago
Of Louis van Gaal zelf die 6 verschillende accounts heeft aangemaakt om thumbs down te geven. :)
RoderikR 8 months ago
@Pazzknallie ik wist niet dat van gaal vrienden had?
JoostFRotterdam 2 months ago
Are you that stupid?! Ted van leeuwen, are you that stupid or what? Didn't i start by telling that i have to protect the best interest of Ajax? Didn't i start by telling that we made deals with the players? Why do you ask this question!? Am I that smart or are you that dumb!? I made a deal with those players. And who are you to tell things about them when they don't want that?
And so on...
bekhouwe8888 1 year ago
I think he died.
Mofalove 1 year ago
brilliant!!!!!
dongrappo 1 year ago
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brilliant!!!!!
dongrappo 1 year ago
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brilliant!!!!!
dongrappo 1 year ago
brilliant!!!!!
dongrappo 1 year ago
this is brilliant! and the piano player is realy good. what a nice idea!
dongrappo 1 year ago
0:37 !!!! epic! XD +1 internets for you, sir
OTKSenior 1 year ago
Haha, echt geweldig
Fuzoin7898 1 year ago
wie geeeil :D
Ork619 1 year ago
awesomenesses
tsunchoo 1 year ago
hahaha
Ork619 1 year ago
Thats sooooo cool!!!!!! Very well done!!!! Great!
partyharry1972 1 year ago
volgens mij heb ik het toch keurig verwoord...nu ben ik weer de arogante klootzak de authoritaire klootzak maar dat zijn allemaal domme vragen van Chris en van jou net! je moet nu bij Theo van Seggelen zijn niet bij mij!Ja goed als je´t niet begrijpt...sorrie...ho maar...ik heb het goed verwoord...je mag het opschrijven...je mag nog je commentaar d´rop geven...best!
guentherstoll 1 year ago
Ben je nou zo dom...Ted van Leuwen...ben je nou zo dom...of is het niet?
Ben ik niet begonnen met te zeggen dat ik de belangen van Ajax moet verdedigen?Ben ik niet begonnen met te te zeggen dat wij met spelers afspraken hebben?Waarom stel je dan deze vraag?Ben ik nou degene die zo slim is of ben jij zo dom?Ik heb naamelijk met die spelers een afspraak...en wie geeft het recht om over die spelers wat te zeggen als die spelers dat niet willen?...Ag ag ag ag...
guentherstoll 1 year ago
halo
aboedsquad 1 year ago
LOL. Sehr geil. Selbst ich als Schalker finde den Louis irgendwie cool!
SebV1000 1 year ago
haha! great! i love the music-beautiful composition!
szmgx 1 year ago
Are you really so stupid?
Fred van Leeuwen,
Are you really so stupid?
Or is it something else?
Didn't I start saying i have to protect the rights of Ajax?
Didn't I start saying we have appointments with the players?
Then why do you ask this question!
Am I the one who is so smart, or are you so stupid.
I have an appointment with those players.
And who has the right to talk about those players, if the players don't want that!
GazmazC 1 year ago
oh oh oh oh,
I believe I expressed myself politely?
Now I am the arrogant bastard again, the authoritarian bastard.
It's all stupid questions that Chris and you ask me.
You have to go to Theo van Seggelen, not to me.
Well if you don't understand, sorry.
Just stop.
I expressed myself well, you can write it down,
you can give your commentary.
Fine.
GazmazC 1 year ago
Dear Dutch fellows,
could someone of y'all kindly translate what Louis is talking about!
Many Thanks,
Sia
Siatch84 1 year ago 2
@Siatch84 : See the annotation below the video, if you scroll down you'll find my attempt at an English translation. :-)
Felix2036 1 year ago 2
@Felix2036 Thx, I have another request, could you please maybe just write down what van Gaal is saying on Dutch, I wanna sing with him :)
Siatch84 1 year ago 10
@Siatch84 : o come ON! Like I have nothing better to do??
Felix2036 1 year ago 13
@Felix2036 Felix, you don't know how much I love this clip! When I feel sad, I just start this video and afterwards I feel happy again. True story! Thanks once again!
Siatch84 1 year ago
@Felix2036 this is the internet! just get someone to do it
SCX2k 1 year ago
Wow....amazing XD
lebelle07 1 year ago
hey felix, you can see the harald schmidt video here (but only until may 21)
daserste . de / HaraldSchmidt / letztesendung . asp
url of course without the spaces
your part begins at 4:47 ;)
FaberBollonius 1 year ago
Absolutely brilliant, a piece of art. I just wish I could fully understand what he is saying. Being from south Germany I can only understand a few words.
Could someone post an English transcription?
clehner1 1 year ago
HAHAHAHAHA JUST PERFECT !!!!!!! LMAO
bass8400 1 year ago
genial gemacht
fernetpunker 1 year ago
Geniaal
best greetings from germany (stuttgart)
Nur der VfB!
Rumbompfel 1 year ago
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wideawake01 1 year ago
Cool
MissCharly98 1 year ago
Wahnsinn ! geil ! Genial
ikusark 1 year ago
what he's talking about??
manuelyakoub 1 year ago
göttlich :D
Cross14fade 1 year ago 5
0:10 min is fantastic ..
DeathRimes 1 year ago
Wahnsinn
j0oey 1 year ago
basis der kerl! absoulte basis!
aloschar 1 year ago
GENIAAL !!!
ssbro3 1 year ago
echt wauw, jij kan dat echt heel goed omdat in elkaar te zetten ( en te spelen xp )
mickypuck 1 year ago
wie is die pianist???
mickypuck 1 year ago
@mickypuck : Ik.
Felix2036 1 year ago
Anyone got the english traslation of the speech?
Keiyuu84 1 year ago
@Felix2036 heb je hier een mp3 van die ik ergens kan downloaden? Als ik dit 's ochtends kan luisteren kan ik er de hele dag op teren!
Meeuw 1 year ago
Thanks for all your feedback! I made this clip almost a year ago, but it's still popular, which is hilarious in itself, of course. So to answer some of your questions right here: no, I did not change the sound of his voice. Didn't use autotune or other pitch correcting software. I only quantized the syllables ever so slightly (usually to the nearest 16th note) to make arranging of the music a little easier. Yes, I composed the music. I used Ableton Live to record itl. Hope that helped. x, Felix
Felix2036 1 year ago 4
@Felix2036
Dude... i´m speechless. It´s beautiful. Interestingly (being a big jazz fan) i´ve also always perceived van gaal´s musical speech pattern.
Great piece and yeah- Ableton rules!
EbClectic 1 year ago
@Felix2036 Hi Felix2036: Your clip was broadcasted last night on Harald Schmidts Late Night Show on German TV (ARD) and made the audience jump. Congratulations, you did extremely well transcribing Louis´ indignant reaction to a silly sports reporter into this jazzy little ditty. BEST! Two thumbs up, mate. Greetings from München.
openswimmer 1 year ago 23
@openswimmer: Wow, that's great! By the way: in my opinion the reporter's question wasn't silly at all. It's van Gaal's ego that's just too large, that what makes his childish rants so ridiculous. And of course they are perfect material for pastiches and mashups, so as a matter of fact I am quite grateful.
Felix2036 1 year ago
@Felix2036 You´re right there. Let´s wait and hear what his official "Meister"-speech in German will sound like after the last Bundesliga game (plus the Champions League Final and the DFB-Pokal Final..?). Maybe you can come up with another Jazz-Beauty on that? Looking so much forward to it. Cheers.
openswimmer 1 year ago
@openswimmer
It was also on the football TV show "Zeiglers wunderbare Welt des Fußballs".
UnPocitoLoco 11 months ago
man, you are my new god. how did you record this?
moncor3 1 year ago
Och och och och och...volgens mij heb ik het toch keurig verwoord. Nu ben ik weer de do de do do arrogante klootzak. XD AHAHAHAHA
De muziek onder dat gehele stukje is gewoon geweldig XD
DutchManticore 1 year ago
DAT is muziek!
polyeides 1 year ago
heel leuk gedaan felix :)
alleen piano erachter gezet of ook stemgeluid aangepast?
dune2online 1 year ago
ja felix jij hebt die tekst gemaakt je bent pas de 30e die me dat verteld heeft
koen835 1 year ago
Hij gaat v.Hanegem achterna met een muziek carriére
BRT200009 1 year ago
hahahahah
Qazakyak 1 year ago
Louis van Gaal is een genie
vanderbilt887 1 year ago
OMG ROTFL
Keiyuu84 1 year ago
I can't stop laughing :D awesome !
TheKooks91 1 year ago
I don't understand a word of dutch, but this is amazing!
Yasminimani 1 year ago
xDDDDD you're a genius!
m0uZy 1 year ago
וואו זה אחד הדברים אם לא ה-דבר הכי מגניב ששמעתי!!
medisho 1 year ago
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leuk gedaan, man...het haalt een beetje de neerbuigende en hooghartige toon weg, die deze man heeft....snap sowieso niet dat mensen zich zo laten neersabelen door dit chagrijn, die in feite zeer onzeker is,anders zou je je niet als macho gedragen
mamachrissie 1 year ago
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mamachrissie 1 year ago
Geniaaal xD haha
youez123 1 year ago 18
geweldig!!
HelloLynn123 1 year ago 4
Wow, Van Gaal should try out for 'X-Factor'. He can really carry a tune. :)
troynew2006 1 year ago 5
Ben jij nou zo dom Ted van Leeuwen!
Rijsoort89 1 year ago 5
LOL, mijn complimenten voor de maker(s)
anzoh53 1 year ago 5
Briltjante begeleiding middels de piano zonder te knippen in het filmpje. Ronduit Geniaal!!!
WoodyWeedPecker 1 year ago 4
Briljant! Wie is die zanger? :)
proust69 1 year ago 3
Van Gaal zelf, dus. Hij zingt niet, het is zijn eigen stemgeluid.
Felix2036 1 year ago 3
Ikke begrijp ;-)
proust69 1 year ago
DUMPERT! hij staat vandaag in de top 5 -.-
TheMediochip 2 years ago
ja deze is wel grappig:P
j4jden 2 years ago
hahaha, vooral het begin inderdaad =D
bryanhaakman 2 years ago
LOL HAHAHAHA!!!!!!
bresler94 2 years ago
who wrote the music? he's the best!
stilzkopf 2 years ago 17
@stilzkopf : I did.
Felix2036 2 years ago 2
@stilzkopf it's from a german television program. it's the late night show with harald schmidt
HomeyHansPeter 1 year ago
Schitterend, HEEEL erg knap gemaakt!
Gulzt 2 years ago
whahahah lagge
Tim0ification 2 years ago
geniaal!
gamertag9001 2 years ago 3
Brilliant! En ik vind deze beter dan de versies van Henry Hey. Het maakt de relatie tussen moderne jazz en het gesproken woord zeer aanschouwelijk.
kerkvader 2 years ago
lache:P
JaBluRo835 2 years ago
of the hizhey!!! : ) machtig man die louis
golfmantsje 2 years ago
lol van gaal is echt dom
excellion2pwn 2 years ago
ganz großes kino! wunderbar
Wobei 2 years ago
The best Henry Hey video!!!! EXCELLENT!
lah2ogirl 2 years ago
Vooral het begin is erg harmonisch. :D
Agentbromsnor 2 years ago
whahahah geweldig dit
TheSchoenenpoetser 2 years ago
GEWELDIG! Het haalt zijn hele betoog onderuit, die van Wilders is ook geweldig. Net een musical:D
cecielgitaar 2 years ago
Waanzinnig mooi!!!!!!
wrude 2 years ago
Felix did you play the piano??? This is awesome!
webwombel 2 years ago 5
@webwombel Yes, but I did'nt do it live.
Felix2036 2 years ago
top!
robdujardin 2 years ago
Brilliant!!! Love it!! I just saw it in German TV :-)
webwombel 2 years ago 3
Van Gaal de musical
puinpoeier 2 years ago 3
does anybody know who composed that lovely chords on van Gaal. Its fantastic
kartviewer 2 years ago
I did.
Felix2036 2 years ago
henry hey
dartaddi 2 years ago
Arnd Zeigler works for a radio station in Bremen. He makes a kind of comedy on the radio. He mixes original interviews of Players an Coaches with his own comments.
zearturo 2 years ago 3
>3
van gaal ftw
wayne01337 2 years ago
Haha echt leuk, dankjewel naar Nederland uit Duitsland :D
saffi01 2 years ago
1000 Dank an Arnd Zeigler!!!!!
tomatenaffe 2 years ago
Who the hell is this Arnd Zeigler you guys keep going on about??
Felix2036 2 years ago
Arnd zeigler is a man from German TV who shows us that video in his TV-show "zeiglers wundarbare welt des fussballs"
BuerTristan 2 years ago
wow... didn't know that they watched this in Germany as well... hahah! I made this clip just for fun, but it seems to have a life of it's own by now. Can I watch his program somewhere on internet?
Felix2036 2 years ago
Arnd Zeigler und die verpasste Derby-Sendung
Skimbalimbaz 2 years ago
well youve got to know, van gaal actually is part of a discussion about the momentary bad-case of bayern munich...thats one reason why hes often shown in german tv-shows!
albernerhelge 2 years ago
Hello, what means for fun. I play piano and there are very strange chords in it. Did you compose that? It`s great. And there is a lot of work in it. I would be happy for an answer.....
kartviewer 2 years ago 3
he's a football coach, but he is always discussing with the press, very funny with this piano thing.
echt lol filmpje jongens:D
MrJasper131 2 years ago
what was he talking about? sounds very funny ;D 5*
kingpromille 2 years ago