There is an article on lifesciene's website that specifically talks about what is actually causing there to be radioactivity in rain. As quoted in this article, "Is there cause for alarm? In fact, radioactive rain is not a new health threat or evidence of a cover-up by the nuclear industry, but rather is indicative of just how many naturally occurring radioactive particles there are in Earth's atmosphere."
@Therolando If you want to learn more about it or don't believe me just look for the article "Radioactive Rain Across the US is Natural", written by Natalie Wolchover. I came across the article today because the Amercian Nuclear Society posted it on there news feed since so many people were claiming Nuclear Energy and Fukushima as the cause.
If you measure again 12 hours later, you'll find no radioactivity, it's Radon's daughters (214Bi & 214Pb). They decay away in a few hours (half-life of 46 minutes). Now, if it's still radioactive, it's Fukushima. But... I hear the sound of a thunder storm...
Greenfield et al., 2006. Intense γ radiation from radon progeny accreted in/on rain during and following thunderstorms. In: Bulletin of the American Physical Society, Nashville, Tennessee.
According to Alex, Canada had a nuclear meltdown in the past six months. This could be why your geiger counter registered a high radiation. watch?v=6zOWYXFgGMc
It's interesting that the dosimeter (count of CPM) increased significantly only after strong applied the cloth to the sensor — a radiation in the air was much smaller
BTW: I remember the panic 25 years ago in Poland (East Europe):
on the 26th April 1986, the Chernobyl NPP was broken, and then on morning, April 28, the radiation IN THE AIR has increased in Poland (temporarily) by more than 500,000 times!
We survived the Chernobyl without any problem, so you survive Fukushima's 20,000 CPM also!
Nothing like that on wet west coast. .32umsv max. Pickering has been puking radiation a long time there and radon has to be considered along with uranium mining and rock crushing it.
cheers fella for the info .. big black out in uk .. ! why is everybody sooooo dumb ! sooo many japanies people here at the beach this summer !? .never ever seen that before .
Dude it's most likely Chlorine -39 as it has a half life of 56 minutes, it is formed when cosmic rays hit the air molecules in our atmosphere. Specifically collisions with Argon which makes up about 1% of the air we breathe. Cl-39 is a beta emitter, check for the Q value it should be around 3.4 MeV. Happy hunting!
I find this very interesting for many reasons (because I too live in Toronto) but I'm wondering if the source of the sample (solar panels) have anything to do with the results you've reached? This may be a stupid question to pose but it would also be interesting if you collected multiple samples from other sources, like the tops of garbage bins, for example. Just curious. Cheers!
You're mention of chemtrails brought to mind barium. Perhaps a mixture of barium isotopes from chemtrail aerosol could be causing it. The overall half-life, and the non-linear rate of decay could fit this.
According to this video "Ex Government Employee talks about CHEMTRAILS part 1", chemtrails involve barium salt mixtures. And here are some barium half-lives.
You should read this: "Intense gamma radiation from radon progeny accreted in/on rain during and following thunderstorms"
", initially exceeding up to 100's of cts/sec,"
Apparently, thunderstorms concentrate radon gas because the atoms are positively charged and are attracted to electrically charged thunderclouds. There is also 214Bistmuth and 214 Lead in the rain, they are daughter isotopes of radon.
@SparkyMcBiff I'm having fun with some of the post, so they're not bothering me the least bit. When you see and experience things for yourself you know what's what. The rain this evening was also pretty hot, a vid is coming.
I'm going to post a few vids in the next day or so if the upload stops plugging up.
I'll be showing what the pancake tube looks like you might be interested in that. Most Geiger meters can be upgraded to a pancake tube as the electrical characteristics are pretty standard.
I just got the Eberline E-140 I purchased. But my external speaker is not working due to a disconnected wire I found. Inside there is a small audio circuit board mounted next to the batteries. It is connected to the main board by two wires. One purple and one grey. Purple one is connected to V+ and is OK. The grey one is connected to "SIG" on small board but the other end is loose and hanging.
Ifa you have the same arrangement could you tell me where the other end connects?
The decay rate can't be right for reactor products. Maybe radioactive compounds are evaporating off the cloth. Seal samples or at least keep at the same temperature/humididty and see if that makes a difference.
@mouse454 I agree, if this is from Fukushima, it would have to be a very selective process that transports only certain radionuclides and not others. I always keep my wipes in a zip lock, I have a huge collection now. It makes no difference in the decay rate. But I keep them sealed for the day when maybe someone will want to test the wipes with more sophisticated lab equipment. I don't think this is "normal" for rain to be this "hot".
The timescales are orders of magnitude wrong. Almost certainly a measurement error but I did think up a wacky mechanism anyway.
High energy proton bombardment of Carbon-12 dioxide -> Nitrogen 13 + gamma ray, N13 remains as nitrogen dioxide aquefied as nitric acid, then is rained out onto your solar panel almost immediately. (CNO cycle). So now just need a reason why there suddenly are masses of high energy protons bombarding the atmosphere right down into the tropopause.
Discount N-13, its a positron->gamma emitter. I'm going through lists of atmospheric-source radionuclides with candidate half-lives and beta/alpha emission. Doesn't look promising.
You are saying the decay rate is 33-45 minutes. That isn't radon's decay rate. More information please. It could be nitrogen 13 residual decay (half-life 9 minutes) from low altitude atmospheric events.
i think here in europe its in the admospher to ....in the netherlands after 3 coremeltdowns ....and 3 weeks complete silence .. .and endles osama ...was the subject of the month
i ment for those that not want to see what is going on....sry for the people that wanted truth, and even not i wish nobody that ...but i wont see an selution that have to find and that is demanding goverment what is going on and also media
i get upset sometimes that we are reacting sucjh the miror
Could it be that there is enough new uranium free on the surface of the planet from bomb testing, mining, Wars (Bosnia, Iraq, ect) fukushima/semi-valley/ect, stacks of depleted in Tennessee, ect to explain an increase of free radon in the rain? If so this would be a global phenomenon, but again I think meteorology would explain a lot of this when put together with radiation physics of local (T.E.)N.O.R.M. sources.
@joelb79 The more I think of it, your idea has merit. The NWO uses Uranium in all it's forms as a weapon for depopulation around the world . Then the uranium "gasses" off radon with a half life of 8 days, it travels the world's jet stream, the radon decays to it's daughters, gets washed out by the rain and I then report high counts! But what I don't understand is radon is heavy (x8 air), how is it getting into the Jet stream if the Uranium crap is on the ground? How is it getting up there?.
@electrosyl The Jet stream aids in storms ability to "lift" radon off the ground. This is caused by the convective currents, much like if you blow over the top of a straw you create a vacuum. Same effect here, except nature is blowing over a frontal system that is funneling air upward. There would still need to be a local supply of uranium nearby such as Elliot Lake mines where radon is produced. My theory is superheated uranium fuel in particulate form deposited all over from mentioned places.
@joelb79 I guess you have a point, If moisture from the ground and the oceans can end up as clouds, so can radon. Look at how heavy water is and it's transported no problem. The Radon daughters (if that's what it is) appear to be very miscible with water, because when I tried to boil 1 litter of radioactive rain water, the residue wasn't radioactive. It's quite plausible what your saying. it's the best theory so far! Anyone else want to top that?
if we resond by being fake not gonna here there are events comming that it doesnt matter put your head in the sand or not mr realityhammer is knocking anyway
I assure you all this is real. I would not fake this. I feel responsibility to my fellow man and I would not put out something so serious and fake it. I don't need to, the radiation is there falling in the rain, check it for yourselves. This is not localized just to my property. I checked around and it's the same all over the GTA.
I suspect the radiation falls out in the rain everywhere the jet stream flows.
MSM HAS mentioned the radiation fall out from japan dont be mistaken i have seen it however it is literally a minute long clip and then its over. this is our lives ffs
Hey, sounds like a radionuclide created in the upper atmosphere. Have you taken a sample and calculated the half-life? It could be something like Phosphorus-32
I'm seeing a 33- 45 min. half life. It varies from storm to storm. It matches the decay of radon daughters. I think that selective wash out changes the half life from storm to storm. I've notice that the half life isn't completely linear either. I all I can say is it's coming from the rain, it sticky and sticks to smooth surfaces like glass, it is damn radioactive and it's short lived, it's alphas / weak betas and it's increasing. I see no residual radioactivity after a day or so.
The decay rate of 33- 45 min. match more closely radon daughters. Variable wash out of the daughters would explain the variable decay rate. Also, I've noticed that the decay rate isn't quite linear.
CBC has not given us info on radioactivity in Canada, ever, as far as I know. I think they must have been given their orders not to talk about it, just as the rest of MSM.
@electrosyl Oh and keep up the good work. my only suggestions with science is do not make assumptions, make theories. Test. Learn. We'll all get there somehow and the better we get at the science the more credible we become.
I happen to know the supervisor, I'm sure he would give me access to his quarry. But I don't need to, I have the exact geology on my land and I have my own little sand and gravel pit that I use personal use. I've tested the gravel / sand I have and it is not radioactive. It's coming from the sky in the heavy rains from tall 30 000-50 000 feet thunder clouds. It looks like this stuff is from the jet stream.
I don't doubt that your findings are real. I was trying to tell you that this is a common occurrence and has been written about in scientific papers. Staff at nuclear plants have been known to set off detectors if they enter the building after getting caught in a heavy rain. It's good that you posted the video. The reading might be very high because you concentrated everything on a large surface onto a small cloth.
I agree with you. The Geiger counters at the door arches of Nuke plants are super sensitive to detect fuel fleas in the workers leaving their facilities. It would make sense that they would trigger from time to time on heavy rains. Is what I'm seeing normal? Everything I have seen and read up until now tells me that some of what I'm reading is normal, but not at these levels. Think about it, take your rain coat leave it outside in the rain and it collects 20K disintegrations/min.
Sorry, no troll here. I'm as anti-nuclear as anyone. I live in Japan and I actually have had meltdown fission products raining on head, so I'm going to be angry if people make the anti-nuke movement a laughingstock by coming to the wrong conclusions here and shutting out anyone who disagrees with a preferred theory. If it's hard to believe there could be that much radon in the rain, think about how much of the earth has been dug up by coal mining, uranium mining, the tar sands etc...
I waited long to make this video, because I didn't want to be the one to stick out his neck.
The radiation I measured is real and is not fake. My measurements on the 14th wasn't that unique. The previous record was 11 000cpm. I regularly see 3- 6 thousand cpm. At 20K cpm I decided to speak up, I am no fool for doing that. I don't have the answer as to the source. If the tailings from the mining industry is the cause then we need to know and force them to change how they do things.
Thanks man. You're doing a great thing here! I love that you did a few in one day. It helps with plotting decay when it rains. Yes it's from Fukashima Daiichi {Fuk 1}. Triple meltdowns and enough fuel on site for 35 Chermobyls. The more they steam off to us, the less they have to deal with there. Where is the Government / Health Canada / CBC? Why, they all work for the nuclear mafia selling Uranium. They think we're idiots who need a Bert and Ernie Poll. Thanks again.
The most important thing you can find when checking rainwater is beta particles and then their associated decay time. Did you happen to record this paper towel's decay time? I have yet to see somebody who has a sample this high.. Its a shame you didn't do any real science to discover the source of the radiation. for example, if this was radon your sample would read background in 8-10 hours. Check my videos I'm doing this too and show how to record half-life.
@HatrickPenry I wish I could help but most people will not accept help. If you ask questions about it from most people they take offense to it like you are a paid disinformation agent. I would suggest that this poster submit this paper towel sample to Arnie Gunderson at Fairewinds Associates, he has mentioned that he would pay out of his pocket to have samples laboratory analyzed. That would be the ultimate thing to do when you find 20,000cpm samples.
The problem is by the time the sample would get to him it would all have decayed to nothing. The half life is short, 33-45 minutes according to my observations. The next time I will wipe everything I can to make the hottest sample ever. This way if there are any long lived particles I should see them. Even the 20 000cpm sample was back down to nothing 48h latter. So I'll see what I can do about mailing anything out. I shouldn't be the only one seeing these levels, check for yourselves!
@electrosyl Your detection equipment is not as sensitive as a laboratories equipment. 20,000cpm that decays out at the rate you said, while very very incredible, questionable and scary looking, it is most likely radon washout. I would be concerned about alpha particles myself. A laboratory can perform alpha scintillation, gamma spectroscopy and all sorts of tests that will definitively point to something. Lets put it this way, your sample warrants further inspection. I would look into it.
@electrosyl I think when i first commented your info section was blank. My bad for any ill will, did not mean it. I agree with you on a lot of points, but I don't think the radon is intentional. The bigger the storm, the more updraft from the ground and the more moisture that it scavenges from an area. It would be reasonable to assume that the bigger the storm, the more progey it can suck up into the atmosphere. Jet stream would increase readings. Meteorology explains a lot. Why did it go up?
Read more of my posts you'll find my answers in there. The decay is in the 33-45 min range.
Define real science? White lab coats, gloves and face shields in a sterile environment?
I'm doing rough science here with what I have available to me. It does not invalidate my results. A million dollar tax paid lab would give us all the answers we need, but they remain silent for some reason.
There is no way that I'm the only one who has noticed this. Speak up folks!
@electrosyl By real science I mean what we are doing. BUT, you could take the sample and isolate beta/gamma by shielding alpha and taking note of the difference. Take a look at what the EPA does with rainwater samples, I think it is called the Method 900.0. You have the necessary equipment, but you need to calibrate your meter using Americium-241, and a few other things. I would kill for your equipment, the EPA around here would start listening to me if I had a LND-7311 probe.
@joelb79 Thanks! I'll looked into it... I tried boiling water samples to dryness before and the residue had no radioactivity at all. It all evaporated with the steam. I'm not sure how to adapt their method to work with what I'm picking up in the wipes... I'll do more reading... Link: water.epa.gov/scitech/methods/cwa/bioindicators/upload/2007_07_10_methods_method_900_0.pdf Anyone have any ideas?
great work you are doing here !!!...also I wanted to thank you ALOT for trying to comment back to the pertinent questions and comments...if you can TRY to keep it up that would be great(even tho I see your getting a TON of views)
Fukushima is a major disaster. Friends in Japan tell me that news on just how bad it really is is just not being talked about. In many ways worse than Chernobyl.
An acquaintance (friend of a friend) scientist in the San Francisco Bay Area said rain water readings out of Tiburon are very radioactive - much higher than normal. We were discussing this back in June.
There really isn't a hell of a lot you can do about the radioactive fall out. It is in the water, soil, air... that's that.
Yeah, but if we keep on pointing it out and the masses awaken we might be able to prevent the next Fukushima by getting rid of the older technology. Maybe what I'm measuring is from the tailings from the Uranium mining. Maybe the thing to do is to bury the tailings to allow the radon to decay like when it was in the ground. Small changes sometimes make big differences. If no one knows about it, nothing will change.
This is probably washout of Radon in the atmosphere. This is occurring now, and it occurred before the Fukushima catastrophe. Please seek out expert opinion before you make conclusions about this.
@cdgr0820 For someone who recommends seeking an expert opinion before making any conclusions...didn't you do just that with your swamp gas story? 'washout radon'? That's funny. You trolls just keep on trying.
I have made no conclusions. The evidence with the decay rate (33-45 min) make me think it's Radon daughters. I don't know for sure, but it's the most likely in my opinion. I never said this was from Fukushima.
The experts are very silent these days. I just put it out there for people to check out for themselves. There is nothing wrong with that is there, or do only expert opinion count?
So fuking retarded - all these random numbers & nobody compares it 2 N E thing relevant, like equivalent sun exposure, or microwave oven, or cell phone on your head, or WHATEVER! & Rense site is flooded with this endless krap of meaningless stats nobody bothers 2 explain the health FX of = LAME!
@HatrickPenry Go on with your 'kill-the-messenger' dance. Everything I said is obvious & correct & U know it. This isn't a debate or a question. I'm just stating facts.
Oh now watch the troll fukwit troll go into their 'facts R relative' & 'true is false' Obama-brain idocy =))
I'm not a health physicist. I cannot make those types of comparisons.
The problem with these comparisons is they are never accurate and way off. You can't compare non ionizing radiation with ionizing radiation. Want a good laugh? Check out Banana Equivalent Dose (BED). They used to equate risk of exposure to the equivalent # of bananas you eat because of the radioactive potassium they contain.
Totally debunked now, but the nuke industry peddled that one for years.
@electrosyl If U can't make those comparisons, then there is no point 4 U 2 post a reply except 2 troll me & waste your life typing krap nobody reads. This isn't a debate, just a statement of fact: If Rense & others want us 2 care about radiation levels, they need 2 EXPLAIN (with a graph on their main page or something - since half their fuking links R about Fukishima) the relative health FX of the various items & levels.
I totally have a problem with this. That would mean that your area has a higher radioactivity, per square meter, than Fukushima city. This is either an error, something local whcih got specifically on your pannels, or otherwise.
You should contact the local Canadian EPA if you find readings that high. Your entire property would be unsafe to live on.
I have extream trouble beliving this one.
Please contact your local authorities for everyone else's sake if this is true.
I'm honored by your presence here. No, I don't believe that my levels are anywhere near what they are seeing in Fukushima, because I see a very short decay rates. They are seeing these levels and more 24/7. I only see these levels for a short period and they decay very quickly in a matter of hours. I do not believe that my property is unsafe to live on as I avoid the rain. There is no way Environment Canada doesn't know about this as it's everywhere. I think it's Radon Daughters
Thank you for doing all this...It needs to be shown to all Canadians..We are being poisoned ..in so many ways...This way...is obvious now thanks to you, electrosyl.
I wonder how much this has to do with our Canadian Government being so silent about readings..or..lack of..monitoring.
i would not be suprised by a lot of negative comments on your cpm counts there are now payed trolls assigned to discredit information critical of nuclear power and fukushima threw a monkeywrench into the safety of nuclear power and yes there could be other sources of radiation that we dont know about
No offense intended here but getting an accurate reading takes multiple measurements on various scales, a knowledge of the material being sampled as well as the mass/volume/density of the sample and also knowing what detector is right for the task. Check out bionerd23 here on Youtube, she has a lot of knowledge about the subject including the math for conversions etc.
I agree it 's rough science. But it does not invalidate my measurements. So say, I'm off by a couple thousand counts, so what? If I'm knee deep in crap or it's really up to my waist because I'm measuring off a bit does it make a difference? It still stinks...
I like bionerd23, people should check her out and learn from her. I think some people are getting all stirred up for a lack of knowledge. What I'm measuring in the rain is real, there's a lot of it, but it's short lived...
Exposure is a funny thing, Bionerd did a video about this and the false sense of security a dosimeter can give or inaccurate reading because of the nature of radiation itself(360º radiation) vs different measurement tools(yours measure only part). Is 20K CPM even dangerous? If it decayed in less than an hour how did it make it all the way from Japan before decay? Maybe ionization from weather and solar radiation? Did you do a control sample from another area?
I've done this so many times, so many ways, the radiation is there and is real, but short lived. The paper towel thing makes it more spectacular as I concentrate the radiation of an entire 1 sq. meter into 2 or 3 sq inches.
20k cpm is probably not that bad as long as it's not ingested. But why is it there and where is it from. That's what I want to know. If it's Radon, it's half life is 8 days and then it decays to it's daughters which live 33- 45 minutes range. So it could travel.
Not trying to doubt you, I hope you see I am trying to find out more about this.
Well I'm sure a good portion of anything you find is from Fukushima. Add in local factors and environmental ones and you have a good chance of a significant increase. I think the worst danger is from build up in the soil.
It's too bad the official "monitoring" is so poor. Fukushima is bad, they have been dishonest from the start.
I haven't seen a build up as the decay rate is a short 33-45 min. My wipes always end up "clean" after a day or so. What ever it is I'm collecting it decays quickly. I'm not convinced this is from Fukushima. It looks like it's from the jet stream.
Don't forget to OBEY and SHOP MORE... "They Live!!!" That was a good movie. Highly recommend it to anyone who hasn't seen it. My Geiger counter is my "sunglasses", figuratively speaking... LOL
Theres a link to your video on rense.com. That's why it's going viral. Thanks for the video. I guess it's time to break out my Ludlum and see what's going on in my area?
Fake? I wish it was. I made this video to inform and challenge my fellow man.
If you can't deal with reality, that's fine...
Anyway, I didn't think the agents from the matrix would have caught up with me this quick.
Look what kills all of us, kills you too. Why are you trying to lead people away from the truth with easily provable lies? Is this the best you can come up with? If that's the case, we got nothing to worry about your kind. have a nice day, I hope you see the light. :o)
That's pretty wild. I built a pancake alpha detector recently and was noticing higher readings on the ground than in the air, after rain. But I didn't test so soon after rain. I'll definitely try this next time.
@CapsuleShapedEscape Really? I did not know that, I thought honest input was still rating input for the video, I didn't know that my rating this video a thumbs down would have any effect on viewings at all. Nope, I still have to go with my gut feeling on video rating, and again, this was a great video, but nothing is going to make me thumbs up the fact that radiation is bombarding the world that I love.
They're hiding it all. They don't want anyone to know about this and will feign ignorance once the cancer clusters start showing up in the doctors office. Unbelievable......but not unbelievable.....since their whole plan is to cull the herd any way they can anyhow.
Thanks for the info and keep it coming. I'm in the GTA also and was wondering if there was any radiation contamination in the rain and you just answered that question. Very grateful..
How reliable is the thing you use to measure? I ask because my books on metrology never mention radioactivity. Also - neutrons must be very hard to detect; have you any way to detect them? (There's also the possibility of things like UV, X rays, cosmic rays).
I'm an instrumentation tech by trade so I can vouch that despite my instrument not being calibrated to cesium-137, the disintegrations you hear in video are real. The counts per minute analog display was check with a frequency pulse generator and it was bang on. So yes, I would say its pretty reliable for rough work. It's like using a tape measure vs a micrometer. So if I measure 2" inches of flood water, what's the point of measuring 2.0343"? Two inches is good enough for me...
I looked at old books I have on science and meteorology and I too found no mention that radiation in the rain was normal. The first case I saw was reported in the 1980's when a nuke plant worker came from his house to enter the plant and the alarm bells went off. Turns out he had the highest levels of radon recorded in his house ever seen. I also saw that sometimes the workers coming from the rain also tripped the alarms. The levels were set very low to detect fuel flees.
@electrosyl On April 25th 1953 the US tested an atomic bomb in Nevada: Fallout and strong rain went down on New York, parts of Vermont and Masachusetts. Half a million people were affected. 270,000 micro curie were measured in the City “Troy”. The NRC standard is 100 micro curie. But the USAEC didn’t make epidemiological study. Chance missed, Nuclear 1, Humanity ZERO. 1962; Ralph E. Lapp, “Nevada Test Fallout and Radioiodine in Milk,”
@electrosyl - OK, thanks for replying. I didn't make it clear what I meant, though. The thing makes sounds - but what exactly is it that's being detected? That's the point. And, also, what isn't detected?
I'm detecting the charged particles from atomic decay that enters the Geiger tube and ionizes the gas. Each time a particle comes in, a sudden drop in the electrode voltage causes a click in the speaker of the unit and moves the needle of the meter a certain amount. The more particles, the more clicks, the more the needle moves. Think of it as a speedometer on your car. It will detect alpha, beta and gamma rays. It will not detect neutrons. It also detects soft X-rays from a TV.
@electrosyl - Yes. You're quoting the standard line. Suppose as another example you have rubber shoes and get an electrostatic charge. Presumably that meter will show a high reading if the charge gets discharged slowly by e.g. dust in the atmosphere. What people are getting at here is that the reading is hard to interpret. And neutrons are what fission is supposed to give off; if there's a 'radiation danger' and you can't measure them, what use is the meter? You might at least acknowledge
Not all decay releases neutrons. Look on the web, see what it takes to detect free neutrons and you'll see that most people can't afford that equipment. Geiger counters are affordable. I'm very well aware that corona discharge can mimic Geiger counts. I'm a tech and I can recognized problems like that. I assure you my instrument was worked properly. Look at the video, when I bring sample the counts go up, when I remove the sample the counts go down. Corona discharge is constant.
@electrosyl - you're like someone who says "I can't detect X rays - never mind, I'll detect ordinary light instead". Your readings are worthless. You seem unable to understand thins.
I actually tested my Geiger meter on a large color TV and I picked soft x-rays around the flyback and the neck of the 2nd Anode... I also have a lux meter in case you're wondering...
O.K. I'll give in, my measurements are worthless. I'll take back ground radiation as my base (40cpm) and I'll say that I observed that the rain was (20Kcpm/40cpm=) 500 times back ground radiation per sq. meter. There, are you saying that what I observed is worthless? Next you'll say it didn't rain?
@electrosyl - 'Next I'll say it didn't rain'. OK. I won't spend any more time on this. You can't understand the points that several posters here, including me, are making. Never mind.
I'm sorry, I'm too stupid for you... But don't let that stop you, just use another identity next time you post and people will get the idea that there is a consensus here that I'm way off the mark and there is no radiation at all in the rain. Yiks! Folks check out his channel...His avatar is of Bertrand Russell, a eugenicist amongst other things... His videos express doubts as to whether nuclear weapons ever worked. Need I say more. This guy is into NWO. This too much fun! LOL
I just reread your post... "Presumably that meter will show a high reading if the charge gets discharged slowly by e.g. dust in the atmosphere."
Either you're trying to confuse people, or you're confused yourself... This is a Geiger Mueller tube, not an electrometer type instrument. Unless I have moisture in the wiring and get coronal discharge, this Geiger tube is NOT, I repeat NOT affected by ambient electrostatic charge. Ever hear of a Faraday cage?
Oh no, I wouldn't do that. It's way to much work to put up a video and respond to messages just for a prank.
I know this will cause anxiety in some people. But maybe, just maybe that will motivate them to research and verify things a bit for themselves. Knowledge is empowering and that's the cure to anxiety.
I've been detecting radiation in the rain (snow) since last March 21st. So this isn't a one of type occurrence, like a small burp from a nuke plant.
@electrosyl well thanks very much for the post, though it's very disconcerting. next time, just for the sake of comparison, can you test the paper towel first?
I wouldn't say that, but I would start looking at avoiding this crap. The levels are no where near glow in the dark levels (Cherenkov blue glow). But a lot of research point that all things being equal, long term low level exposure is far worse than short bursts of high radiation. It's not a linear thing, as it was once thought of.
So keep your immune system strong and eat healthy (organic).
I believe them to be Radon daughters with a variable decay rate half life measured to be from 33-45 minutes depending on selective wash out in the atmosphere. It varies from storm to storm and varies from sample taken at the beginning and at the end of the storm. I found the range to be always in the 33-45 minutes. I Once saw 50 minutes, but I got distracted during the observation so I could have been wrong by 5 minutes or so. It decays so quick that I doubt it's a hazard in food.
hi, damn thats not normal 20.000 cpm only seen it that high when 3 ppl from safecast went to fukushima look for :How I spent my Sunday in Fukushima real nice report and scary numbers.
i dont think it from geo-engineering but cant be sure ofcoz but we are beeing sprayed 2-3 times a day here in holland/europe and we dont see those jumps in CPM or μSv/h, before fuku we had 13-20 cpm as normal background rad. and now its 30-45 avarage and jumps when it rains to 60-70 cpm.
Yeah, I think it high too that's why I posted my vid. If numbers don't mean anything to some of you, just listen to the speaker fry like popcorn! It's not right... Something is up and it's big and pretty much everywhere. The silence from our governments is deafening.
Having a Geiger counter really makes you appreciate the reality of it all. Otherwise, it just another interesting YouTube Video... Get your own counter and start measuring folks! It will be worth your while.
thanks for making this info available...i also live in north Toronto...i saw this link from the Jeff Rense Program...i also shared the link on my Facebook page...but i bet most of my 'friends' will disregard it as just another one of my crazy conspiracy stories...by the way, how much does one of those probes cost?...i wonder if we could make an i-phone application that measures radiation...peace
Yeah, some people will never wake up. It's their choice... Shop around on ebay, you can find some pretty good deals. Make sure you get a pancake type tube, otherwise the old civil defense meters aren't sensitive enough with the hot dog type tubes. When I got mine the tube was punctured, I replaced it with one from LND inc. and it works great. The probes are typically interchangeable between units if they have a BNC connectors. I'm partial to older instruments but digital is fine too.
One possibility lightning generated photo-fission interacting with high atomic weight Fukushima fallout; the stronger the storm the higher the reach. see my blog spot for more info
Very interesting... Mains stream science is not very progressive and I've done quite a bit of research on this, ie. Hutchinson effdect, Tesla, John Bedini home made transistors transmuting elements etc...
There appears to be something going on with quick high voltage discharges that transmutes elements. ZPE or resonances with "ether" appears to do what sciences says is impossible, causing decay or changing the rate of decay of elements without neutrons bombardment.
Dang, I wished we weren't limited to this 500 characters or less thing...
To finish my point, I think it's very likely that some strange physics could be going on here. I noticed that the worse the storm is, the higher they are(30 000-50 000 feet), the worse the radiation fallout tends to be in my area. That is why I don't agree that's it's local Radon gas seeping from the mines and rock formations. It's just too much radioactivity in my humble opinion. By hey, someone prove me wrong.
@electrosyl Supposedly the Sun is mutating matter, according the NASA. It is something they have never seen or known about before, supposedly. I wonder if this might be affecting the readings, and producing ; like you say, some strange new physics we just dont know about? I tend to believe its more nefarious in Nature, and what is going on is from Humans, but then again, that is just my conspiratorial mindset.
Yep , its all valid conjecture at this point as far as I'm concerned. The answer might prove to be much simpler in the end. So for now, I absorb it all and we'll see what comes out at the other end. This ain't normal for sure...
@electrosyl That's exactly the same as I have noted in my findings, stronger storms pull fallout from higher in the atmosphere; The EXCEPTION is tropical storms blowing in from AFRICA, I have measured ZERO radioactivity in those storms watch?v=NbdYM2PuDgk. The EPA Radnet data censoring also correlates well to the strongest storms watch?v=2EXAqDWVYyg.
Very interesting... That is another point I forgot to make about an earlier post. I read that Radon does not leach out of the oceans. So if it were ground Radon that was washing out, it wouldn't care whether the clouds formed over the Atlantic or over the main land, it would always be there. You're saying Tropical storms don't bring radiation... So, I conclude that it must be coming from the jet stream blowing from west to east here in North America... Fukushima, Chem trails? Dunno...
I'm the kind of guy that believes only what he see's for himself.
If I saw a YouTube video of what I posted, I would want to try it for myself before I believed it.
This is real folks! There is no trick in what I videoed. My equipment is working fine.
I didn't spike the wipe with anything. I strongly urge people to buy a good used pancake type Geiger meter on ebay and see things for yourselves. Reality is much more interesting than TV. At least to me it is...
I grew up in a village just north of Toronto & they instructed us in school, during the early sixties, not to eat the snow, when Hanford WA had dangerous releases. There were times when we were warned not to drink local milk, or eat local leafy vegatables & THE GOVERNMENT COLLECTED OUR BABY TEETH! I bet you never heard about that. The ill winds have always blown your way.
You're very astute! The quarry is a sand and gravel quarry. The formation was caused by the last ice age when all the ground up rocks in the ice flows melted out and collected here. 12 000 -14 000 years ago, this area was under something like 3km of ice! The formation under the sand and gravel is limestone (dolostone) left over from an ancient ocean. There is very little granite here, except the odd erratic boulder or pebbles carried over by the ice. This area is not known for Radon.
@electrosyl You've got a bunch of granite quarries in your area close enough to be causing most of this reading. See "List of Mining and Mineral Processing Operations in Canada - Granite" at mmsd(dot)mms(dot)nrcan(dot)gc(dot)ca
Thanks for the link. I just checked and it's all listed as sand and gravel in my area. The closest granite mines are at least 100 km away or there about.
If it was Radon from granite or uranium mines, it would be a ground effect Radon. Radon is 8x as heavy as air and collects in the first 100 meters of atmosphere. The rain would wash it all out after 15 minutes or so. That is not what I'm seeing, if it rains all day, it increases right up until the rain stops. So I tend to disagree.
@electrosyl 100 km is not too far away for the granite quarries. More likely to be getting high CPM from there than from 1000's of km away. Don't get me wrong, I think at least 100 CPM of that is from Fukushima.
I've noticed lately that on days when there exceptionally high levels of moisture in the air ie; fog or rain, my eyes get sore and burn. I too live just north of Toronto and would really like to know what is in this precipitation. Let me know if you find out anymore about this. Thx.
Ah ha! So I'm not the only one... It's not my imagination or the power of suggestion on my part. I noticed that too. When the radioactivity is high, my throat feels scratchy, it always goes away a few hours latter as soon as the radiation dies down. If there is lots of fog or rain but the radiation is normal, I don't seem to get this effect.
Strange...So, could it be the ionizing particles inhaled in the lungs causing irritation?
@electrosyl I am so happy that you are confirming my physical symtoms! I too get that scratchy throat feeling, burning eyes, feeling like I'm gonn'a come done with something and then "pouff" it goes away? Maybe some of us are more succeptable and physically feel this irridation more than others? I would definatley confirm your hypotheses that these particles are lung irritatants and reacking havock upon us! Peace & love to you & yours!
Yeah, my thoughts too. But the doctor says its all in your head.... ;o)
I'm amazed at the response I got from everyone and it's not even been 48 hrs yet since I posted... Over 1000 plus views! I hit a nerve... It this video going viral or what?
Now I wish I had done a better job with the audio and the video. Maybe some music and graphics to dress it up a bit... Maybe the realism would have been lost. Oh well, next time it rains I try and do better...
There is an article on lifesciene's website that specifically talks about what is actually causing there to be radioactivity in rain. As quoted in this article, "Is there cause for alarm? In fact, radioactive rain is not a new health threat or evidence of a cover-up by the nuclear industry, but rather is indicative of just how many naturally occurring radioactive particles there are in Earth's atmosphere."
Therolando 1 week ago
@Therolando If you want to learn more about it or don't believe me just look for the article "Radioactive Rain Across the US is Natural", written by Natalie Wolchover. I came across the article today because the Amercian Nuclear Society posted it on there news feed since so many people were claiming Nuclear Energy and Fukushima as the cause.
Therolando 1 week ago
and your holding that shit in your hand
lookatwhatic 3 weeks ago
had the same reading of 22 000 in surry bc of march last year
coyoteewater 3 weeks ago
It's Radon Washout.
If you measure again 12 hours later, you'll find no radioactivity, it's Radon's daughters (214Bi & 214Pb). They decay away in a few hours (half-life of 46 minutes). Now, if it's still radioactive, it's Fukushima. But... I hear the sound of a thunder storm...
Greenfield et al., 2006. Intense γ radiation from radon progeny accreted in/on rain during and following thunderstorms. In: Bulletin of the American Physical Society, Nashville, Tennessee.
Diamonddavej 1 month ago
That's all coming from Japan.
PilotVBall 2 months ago
According to Alex, Canada had a nuclear meltdown in the past six months. This could be why your geiger counter registered a high radiation. watch?v=6zOWYXFgGMc
Goldieluvmj 2 months ago
JESUS MAN, PUT THAT DAMN THING DOWN!
WonderfulDenmark 4 months ago
It's interesting that the dosimeter (count of CPM) increased significantly only after strong applied the cloth to the sensor — a radiation in the air was much smaller
BTW: I remember the panic 25 years ago in Poland (East Europe):
on the 26th April 1986, the Chernobyl NPP was broken, and then on morning, April 28, the radiation IN THE AIR has increased in Poland (temporarily) by more than 500,000 times!
We survived the Chernobyl without any problem, so you survive Fukushima's 20,000 CPM also!
AndrzejKaron 4 months ago
Nothing like that on wet west coast. .32umsv max. Pickering has been puking radiation a long time there and radon has to be considered along with uranium mining and rock crushing it.
441rider 5 months ago
cheers fella for the info .. big black out in uk .. ! why is everybody sooooo dumb ! sooo many japanies people here at the beach this summer !? .never ever seen that before .
suened 5 months ago
Dude it's most likely Chlorine -39 as it has a half life of 56 minutes, it is formed when cosmic rays hit the air molecules in our atmosphere. Specifically collisions with Argon which makes up about 1% of the air we breathe. Cl-39 is a beta emitter, check for the Q value it should be around 3.4 MeV. Happy hunting!
marmaladekamikaze 5 months ago
I find this very interesting for many reasons (because I too live in Toronto) but I'm wondering if the source of the sample (solar panels) have anything to do with the results you've reached? This may be a stupid question to pose but it would also be interesting if you collected multiple samples from other sources, like the tops of garbage bins, for example. Just curious. Cheers!
AdmiralSASable 5 months ago
radioland japan creepy
aegirer 6 months ago
You're mention of chemtrails brought to mind barium. Perhaps a mixture of barium isotopes from chemtrail aerosol could be causing it. The overall half-life, and the non-linear rate of decay could fit this.
According to this video "Ex Government Employee talks about CHEMTRAILS part 1", chemtrails involve barium salt mixtures. And here are some barium half-lives.
Ba-137m - 2.552 minutes, Ba-139 - 82.7 minutes, Ba-140 - 12.74 days, Ba-141 - 18.27 minutes, Ba-142 - 10.6 minutes.
Test for barium?
momentinpassing 6 months ago
You should read this: "Intense gamma radiation from radon progeny accreted in/on rain during and following thunderstorms"
", initially exceeding up to 100's of cts/sec,"
Apparently, thunderstorms concentrate radon gas because the atoms are positively charged and are attracted to electrically charged thunderclouds. There is also 214Bistmuth and 214 Lead in the rain, they are daughter isotopes of radon.
I never knew rain could be so radioactive!
Diamonddavej 6 months ago
@Diamonddavej
interesting, I found a preview of the paper but not the whole thing, do you have it? thanks for the heads up.
meetings(DOT)aps(DOT)org/Meeting/DNP06/Event/51222
marmaladekamikaze 5 months ago
What we need is to figure out how to protect ourselves from this as much as we can, if that's even possible.
zdrux 6 months ago
How many seiverts's is 20,000 CPM's?
SuperNewf1 6 months ago
Thank you for this post and for your monitoring.
I have wanted to t=do the exact same thing (I've got solar panels as well) but no pancake detector (yet).
I too live in Toronto so I appreciate the work that you are doing.
(Ignore the ignorant fools in the comments, these people will believe nothing until the idiot box tell them what to believe).
SparkyMcBiff 6 months ago 7
@SparkyMcBiff I'm having fun with some of the post, so they're not bothering me the least bit. When you see and experience things for yourself you know what's what. The rain this evening was also pretty hot, a vid is coming.
I'm going to post a few vids in the next day or so if the upload stops plugging up.
I'll be showing what the pancake tube looks like you might be interested in that. Most Geiger meters can be upgraded to a pancake tube as the electrical characteristics are pretty standard.
electrosyl 6 months ago
@electrosyl
Yesterday I actually just purchased a Eberline E-140 pancake detector (used).
I've been thinking about getting one for a while but your video spurred me to it.
I worked for a short time at the Darlington plant and have my "Orange" certification so I've been trained in its use.
I'll be monitoring my cells regularly as well.
The government as usual tells us nothing (unless it's a lie) so we've got to educate ourselves.
Thanks for the motivation!
SparkyMcBiff 6 months ago
@electrosyl
I just got the Eberline E-140 I purchased. But my external speaker is not working due to a disconnected wire I found. Inside there is a small audio circuit board mounted next to the batteries. It is connected to the main board by two wires. One purple and one grey. Purple one is connected to V+ and is OK. The grey one is connected to "SIG" on small board but the other end is loose and hanging.
Ifa you have the same arrangement could you tell me where the other end connects?
SparkyMcBiff 6 months ago
@SparkyMcBiff
I live in Barrie and I'm only getting about 30-60 counts per minute on my monitor 4.
telson2 6 months ago
The decay rate can't be right for reactor products. Maybe radioactive compounds are evaporating off the cloth. Seal samples or at least keep at the same temperature/humididty and see if that makes a difference.
mouse454 6 months ago
@mouse454 I agree, if this is from Fukushima, it would have to be a very selective process that transports only certain radionuclides and not others. I always keep my wipes in a zip lock, I have a huge collection now. It makes no difference in the decay rate. But I keep them sealed for the day when maybe someone will want to test the wipes with more sophisticated lab equipment. I don't think this is "normal" for rain to be this "hot".
electrosyl 6 months ago
@electrosyl
The timescales are orders of magnitude wrong. Almost certainly a measurement error but I did think up a wacky mechanism anyway.
High energy proton bombardment of Carbon-12 dioxide -> Nitrogen 13 + gamma ray, N13 remains as nitrogen dioxide aquefied as nitric acid, then is rained out onto your solar panel almost immediately. (CNO cycle). So now just need a reason why there suddenly are masses of high energy protons bombarding the atmosphere right down into the tropopause.
mouse454 6 months ago
@mouse454
Discount N-13, its a positron->gamma emitter. I'm going through lists of atmospheric-source radionuclides with candidate half-lives and beta/alpha emission. Doesn't look promising.
mouse454 6 months ago
You are saying the decay rate is 33-45 minutes. That isn't radon's decay rate. More information please. It could be nitrogen 13 residual decay (half-life 9 minutes) from low altitude atmospheric events.
Freaking weird.
mouse454 6 months ago
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alara0project 6 months ago
and also the oilspilll.....look at the name spilling oil if is a droplet out of my scooter...
the whole deal is a big questeionmark and no proof some say but the effects are so not normal of the spill ,
dennisjo88 6 months ago
i think here in europe its in the admospher to ....in the netherlands after 3 coremeltdowns ....and 3 weeks complete silence .. .and endles osama ...was the subject of the month
dennisjo88 6 months ago
i ment for those that not want to see what is going on....sry for the people that wanted truth, and even not i wish nobody that ...but i wont see an selution that have to find and that is demanding goverment what is going on and also media
i get upset sometimes that we are reacting sucjh the miror
dennisjo88 6 months ago
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dennisjo88 6 months ago
Could it be that there is enough new uranium free on the surface of the planet from bomb testing, mining, Wars (Bosnia, Iraq, ect) fukushima/semi-valley/ect, stacks of depleted in Tennessee, ect to explain an increase of free radon in the rain? If so this would be a global phenomenon, but again I think meteorology would explain a lot of this when put together with radiation physics of local (T.E.)N.O.R.M. sources.
joelb79 6 months ago
@joelb79 The more I think of it, your idea has merit. The NWO uses Uranium in all it's forms as a weapon for depopulation around the world . Then the uranium "gasses" off radon with a half life of 8 days, it travels the world's jet stream, the radon decays to it's daughters, gets washed out by the rain and I then report high counts! But what I don't understand is radon is heavy (x8 air), how is it getting into the Jet stream if the Uranium crap is on the ground? How is it getting up there?.
electrosyl 6 months ago
@electrosyl The Jet stream aids in storms ability to "lift" radon off the ground. This is caused by the convective currents, much like if you blow over the top of a straw you create a vacuum. Same effect here, except nature is blowing over a frontal system that is funneling air upward. There would still need to be a local supply of uranium nearby such as Elliot Lake mines where radon is produced. My theory is superheated uranium fuel in particulate form deposited all over from mentioned places.
joelb79 6 months ago
@joelb79 I guess you have a point, If moisture from the ground and the oceans can end up as clouds, so can radon. Look at how heavy water is and it's transported no problem. The Radon daughters (if that's what it is) appear to be very miscible with water, because when I tried to boil 1 litter of radioactive rain water, the residue wasn't radioactive. It's quite plausible what your saying. it's the best theory so far! Anyone else want to top that?
:o)
electrosyl 6 months ago
if we resond by being fake not gonna here there are events comming that it doesnt matter put your head in the sand or not mr realityhammer is knocking anyway
dennisjo88 6 months ago
@dennisjo88
I assure you all this is real. I would not fake this. I feel responsibility to my fellow man and I would not put out something so serious and fake it. I don't need to, the radiation is there falling in the rain, check it for yourselves. This is not localized just to my property. I checked around and it's the same all over the GTA.
I suspect the radiation falls out in the rain everywhere the jet stream flows.
electrosyl 6 months ago
MSM HAS mentioned the radiation fall out from japan dont be mistaken i have seen it however it is literally a minute long clip and then its over. this is our lives ffs
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Lynxz 6 months ago
thats most likely short distance beta decay...
RequiemForChange 6 months ago
@RequiemForChange
I'm seeing a 1/2 life of 33-45 min decay rate. It looks like radon daughters which are alpha and weak beta emitters.
They don't penetrate very far as you see in my video. But I stand to be corrected.
electrosyl 6 months ago
Hey, sounds like a radionuclide created in the upper atmosphere. Have you taken a sample and calculated the half-life? It could be something like Phosphorus-32
Chrisi313 6 months ago
@Chrisi313
I'm seeing a 33- 45 min. half life. It varies from storm to storm. It matches the decay of radon daughters. I think that selective wash out changes the half life from storm to storm. I've notice that the half life isn't completely linear either. I all I can say is it's coming from the rain, it sticky and sticks to smooth surfaces like glass, it is damn radioactive and it's short lived, it's alphas / weak betas and it's increasing. I see no residual radioactivity after a day or so.
electrosyl 6 months ago
@Chrisi313
The decay rate of 33- 45 min. match more closely radon daughters. Variable wash out of the daughters would explain the variable decay rate. Also, I've noticed that the decay rate isn't quite linear.
electrosyl 6 months ago
if its that bad in toronto what about vancouver?
yourmaker74 6 months ago
Can you PLEASE call CBC
BRANSCOMBEx 6 months ago 5
@BRANSCOMBEx
CBC has not given us info on radioactivity in Canada, ever, as far as I know. I think they must have been given their orders not to talk about it, just as the rest of MSM.
acpren 6 months ago
@electrosyl Oh and keep up the good work. my only suggestions with science is do not make assumptions, make theories. Test. Learn. We'll all get there somehow and the better we get at the science the more credible we become.
joelb79 6 months ago
he should head over to the mine and "fill out "an application for employment and test the office and trucks within his reach
iam1inamil 6 months ago
@iam1inamil
I happen to know the supervisor, I'm sure he would give me access to his quarry. But I don't need to, I have the exact geology on my land and I have my own little sand and gravel pit that I use personal use. I've tested the gravel / sand I have and it is not radioactive. It's coming from the sky in the heavy rains from tall 30 000-50 000 feet thunder clouds. It looks like this stuff is from the jet stream.
electrosyl 6 months ago
GO BACK TO BED AMERICA!
RmanDC 6 months ago
@RmanDC
I agree, I never thought I would be staying up so late to reply to everyone... LOL
electrosyl 6 months ago
@EatTheRich2012
Well, I'm not sure it would be worth while, as this decays quickly and if it is radon daughters, neutron absorption is not a problem...
electrosyl 6 months ago
I don't doubt that your findings are real. I was trying to tell you that this is a common occurrence and has been written about in scientific papers. Staff at nuclear plants have been known to set off detectors if they enter the building after getting caught in a heavy rain. It's good that you posted the video. The reading might be very high because you concentrated everything on a large surface onto a small cloth.
cdgr0820 6 months ago
@cdgr0820
I agree with you. The Geiger counters at the door arches of Nuke plants are super sensitive to detect fuel fleas in the workers leaving their facilities. It would make sense that they would trigger from time to time on heavy rains. Is what I'm seeing normal? Everything I have seen and read up until now tells me that some of what I'm reading is normal, but not at these levels. Think about it, take your rain coat leave it outside in the rain and it collects 20K disintegrations/min.
electrosyl 6 months ago
Sorry, no troll here. I'm as anti-nuclear as anyone. I live in Japan and I actually have had meltdown fission products raining on head, so I'm going to be angry if people make the anti-nuke movement a laughingstock by coming to the wrong conclusions here and shutting out anyone who disagrees with a preferred theory. If it's hard to believe there could be that much radon in the rain, think about how much of the earth has been dug up by coal mining, uranium mining, the tar sands etc...
cdgr0820 6 months ago
@cdgr0820
I waited long to make this video, because I didn't want to be the one to stick out his neck.
The radiation I measured is real and is not fake. My measurements on the 14th wasn't that unique. The previous record was 11 000cpm. I regularly see 3- 6 thousand cpm. At 20K cpm I decided to speak up, I am no fool for doing that. I don't have the answer as to the source. If the tailings from the mining industry is the cause then we need to know and force them to change how they do things.
electrosyl 6 months ago
Thanks man. You're doing a great thing here! I love that you did a few in one day. It helps with plotting decay when it rains. Yes it's from Fukashima Daiichi {Fuk 1}. Triple meltdowns and enough fuel on site for 35 Chermobyls. The more they steam off to us, the less they have to deal with there. Where is the Government / Health Canada / CBC? Why, they all work for the nuclear mafia selling Uranium. They think we're idiots who need a Bert and Ernie Poll. Thanks again.
firebombclipper 6 months ago
Thank you for your posts Bravo! I hope the media will do some reporting on your findings.
canonicus1 6 months ago 9
The most important thing you can find when checking rainwater is beta particles and then their associated decay time. Did you happen to record this paper towel's decay time? I have yet to see somebody who has a sample this high.. Its a shame you didn't do any real science to discover the source of the radiation. for example, if this was radon your sample would read background in 8-10 hours. Check my videos I'm doing this too and show how to record half-life.
joelb79 6 months ago
@joelb79 Just help the guy. You don't have to be an arrogant prick.
HatrickPenry 6 months ago
@HatrickPenry I wish I could help but most people will not accept help. If you ask questions about it from most people they take offense to it like you are a paid disinformation agent. I would suggest that this poster submit this paper towel sample to Arnie Gunderson at Fairewinds Associates, he has mentioned that he would pay out of his pocket to have samples laboratory analyzed. That would be the ultimate thing to do when you find 20,000cpm samples.
joelb79 6 months ago
@joelb79
The problem is by the time the sample would get to him it would all have decayed to nothing. The half life is short, 33-45 minutes according to my observations. The next time I will wipe everything I can to make the hottest sample ever. This way if there are any long lived particles I should see them. Even the 20 000cpm sample was back down to nothing 48h latter. So I'll see what I can do about mailing anything out. I shouldn't be the only one seeing these levels, check for yourselves!
electrosyl 6 months ago
@electrosyl Your detection equipment is not as sensitive as a laboratories equipment. 20,000cpm that decays out at the rate you said, while very very incredible, questionable and scary looking, it is most likely radon washout. I would be concerned about alpha particles myself. A laboratory can perform alpha scintillation, gamma spectroscopy and all sorts of tests that will definitively point to something. Lets put it this way, your sample warrants further inspection. I would look into it.
joelb79 6 months ago
@joelb79 I agree, that's what I'm doing with the means available to me. I agree with you that it's likely Radon wash out.
electrosyl 6 months ago
@electrosyl I think when i first commented your info section was blank. My bad for any ill will, did not mean it. I agree with you on a lot of points, but I don't think the radon is intentional. The bigger the storm, the more updraft from the ground and the more moisture that it scavenges from an area. It would be reasonable to assume that the bigger the storm, the more progey it can suck up into the atmosphere. Jet stream would increase readings. Meteorology explains a lot. Why did it go up?
joelb79 6 months ago
@joelb79
Read more of my posts you'll find my answers in there. The decay is in the 33-45 min range.
Define real science? White lab coats, gloves and face shields in a sterile environment?
I'm doing rough science here with what I have available to me. It does not invalidate my results. A million dollar tax paid lab would give us all the answers we need, but they remain silent for some reason.
There is no way that I'm the only one who has noticed this. Speak up folks!
electrosyl 6 months ago
@electrosyl By real science I mean what we are doing. BUT, you could take the sample and isolate beta/gamma by shielding alpha and taking note of the difference. Take a look at what the EPA does with rainwater samples, I think it is called the Method 900.0. You have the necessary equipment, but you need to calibrate your meter using Americium-241, and a few other things. I would kill for your equipment, the EPA around here would start listening to me if I had a LND-7311 probe.
joelb79 6 months ago
@joelb79 Thanks! I'll looked into it... I tried boiling water samples to dryness before and the residue had no radioactivity at all. It all evaporated with the steam. I'm not sure how to adapt their method to work with what I'm picking up in the wipes... I'll do more reading... Link: water.epa.gov/scitech/methods/cwa/bioindicators/upload/2007_07_10_methods_method_900_0.pdf Anyone have any ideas?
electrosyl 6 months ago
great work you are doing here !!!...also I wanted to thank you ALOT for trying to comment back to the pertinent questions and comments...if you can TRY to keep it up that would be great(even tho I see your getting a TON of views)
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MrTakeAlook 6 months ago
@MrTakeAlook
I'm trying, I'm trying... My fingers are smokin'!
:o)
electrosyl
electrosyl 6 months ago
Fukushima is a major disaster. Friends in Japan tell me that news on just how bad it really is is just not being talked about. In many ways worse than Chernobyl.
An acquaintance (friend of a friend) scientist in the San Francisco Bay Area said rain water readings out of Tiburon are very radioactive - much higher than normal. We were discussing this back in June.
There really isn't a hell of a lot you can do about the radioactive fall out. It is in the water, soil, air... that's that.
nanopodstudio 6 months ago 2
@nanopodstudio
Yeah, but if we keep on pointing it out and the masses awaken we might be able to prevent the next Fukushima by getting rid of the older technology. Maybe what I'm measuring is from the tailings from the Uranium mining. Maybe the thing to do is to bury the tailings to allow the radon to decay like when it was in the ground. Small changes sometimes make big differences. If no one knows about it, nothing will change.
electrosyl 6 months ago
This is probably washout of Radon in the atmosphere. This is occurring now, and it occurred before the Fukushima catastrophe. Please seek out expert opinion before you make conclusions about this.
cdgr0820 6 months ago
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HatrickPenry 6 months ago
@cdgr0820 For someone who recommends seeking an expert opinion before making any conclusions...didn't you do just that with your swamp gas story? 'washout radon'? That's funny. You trolls just keep on trying.
HatrickPenry 6 months ago
@cdgr0820
I have made no conclusions. The evidence with the decay rate (33-45 min) make me think it's Radon daughters. I don't know for sure, but it's the most likely in my opinion. I never said this was from Fukushima.
The experts are very silent these days. I just put it out there for people to check out for themselves. There is nothing wrong with that is there, or do only expert opinion count?
electrosyl 6 months ago
So fuking retarded - all these random numbers & nobody compares it 2 N E thing relevant, like equivalent sun exposure, or microwave oven, or cell phone on your head, or WHATEVER! & Rense site is flooded with this endless krap of meaningless stats nobody bothers 2 explain the health FX of = LAME!
Deathrape2001 6 months ago
@Deathrape2001 And you lack the intellligence to figure it out on your own? Sad.
HatrickPenry 6 months ago
@HatrickPenry Go on with your 'kill-the-messenger' dance. Everything I said is obvious & correct & U know it. This isn't a debate or a question. I'm just stating facts.
Oh now watch the troll fukwit troll go into their 'facts R relative' & 'true is false' Obama-brain idocy =))
Deathrape2001 6 months ago
@Deathrape2001
I'm not a health physicist. I cannot make those types of comparisons.
The problem with these comparisons is they are never accurate and way off. You can't compare non ionizing radiation with ionizing radiation. Want a good laugh? Check out Banana Equivalent Dose (BED). They used to equate risk of exposure to the equivalent # of bananas you eat because of the radioactive potassium they contain.
Totally debunked now, but the nuke industry peddled that one for years.
electrosyl 6 months ago
@electrosyl If U can't make those comparisons, then there is no point 4 U 2 post a reply except 2 troll me & waste your life typing krap nobody reads. This isn't a debate, just a statement of fact: If Rense & others want us 2 care about radiation levels, they need 2 EXPLAIN (with a graph on their main page or something - since half their fuking links R about Fukishima) the relative health FX of the various items & levels.
Deathrape2001 6 months ago
I totally have a problem with this. That would mean that your area has a higher radioactivity, per square meter, than Fukushima city. This is either an error, something local whcih got specifically on your pannels, or otherwise.
You should contact the local Canadian EPA if you find readings that high. Your entire property would be unsafe to live on.
I have extream trouble beliving this one.
Please contact your local authorities for everyone else's sake if this is true.
antiprotons 6 months ago
@antiprotons
I'm honored by your presence here. No, I don't believe that my levels are anywhere near what they are seeing in Fukushima, because I see a very short decay rates. They are seeing these levels and more 24/7. I only see these levels for a short period and they decay very quickly in a matter of hours. I do not believe that my property is unsafe to live on as I avoid the rain. There is no way Environment Canada doesn't know about this as it's everywhere. I think it's Radon Daughters
electrosyl 6 months ago
Thank you for doing all this...It needs to be shown to all Canadians..We are being poisoned ..in so many ways...This way...is obvious now thanks to you, electrosyl.
I wonder how much this has to do with our Canadian Government being so silent about readings..or..lack of..monitoring.
Time to wake up the the people..er sheeple here.
Peace and thanks again.
zzentityzz 6 months ago
excellent vid man. Can you recommend a good Geiger counter source online? I would like to take similar readings here in Halifax.
turbohonkey 6 months ago
i would not be suprised by a lot of negative comments on your cpm counts there are now payed trolls assigned to discredit information critical of nuclear power and fukushima threw a monkeywrench into the safety of nuclear power and yes there could be other sources of radiation that we dont know about
trinley2 6 months ago
No offense intended here but getting an accurate reading takes multiple measurements on various scales, a knowledge of the material being sampled as well as the mass/volume/density of the sample and also knowing what detector is right for the task. Check out bionerd23 here on Youtube, she has a lot of knowledge about the subject including the math for conversions etc.
chocomalk 6 months ago
@chocomalk
I agree it 's rough science. But it does not invalidate my measurements. So say, I'm off by a couple thousand counts, so what? If I'm knee deep in crap or it's really up to my waist because I'm measuring off a bit does it make a difference? It still stinks...
I like bionerd23, people should check her out and learn from her. I think some people are getting all stirred up for a lack of knowledge. What I'm measuring in the rain is real, there's a lot of it, but it's short lived...
electrosyl 6 months ago
@electrosyl
Exposure is a funny thing, Bionerd did a video about this and the false sense of security a dosimeter can give or inaccurate reading because of the nature of radiation itself(360º radiation) vs different measurement tools(yours measure only part). Is 20K CPM even dangerous? If it decayed in less than an hour how did it make it all the way from Japan before decay? Maybe ionization from weather and solar radiation? Did you do a control sample from another area?
chocomalk 6 months ago
@chocomalk
I've done this so many times, so many ways, the radiation is there and is real, but short lived. The paper towel thing makes it more spectacular as I concentrate the radiation of an entire 1 sq. meter into 2 or 3 sq inches.
20k cpm is probably not that bad as long as it's not ingested. But why is it there and where is it from. That's what I want to know. If it's Radon, it's half life is 8 days and then it decays to it's daughters which live 33- 45 minutes range. So it could travel.
electrosyl 6 months ago
@electrosyl
Not trying to doubt you, I hope you see I am trying to find out more about this.
Well I'm sure a good portion of anything you find is from Fukushima. Add in local factors and environmental ones and you have a good chance of a significant increase. I think the worst danger is from build up in the soil.
It's too bad the official "monitoring" is so poor. Fukushima is bad, they have been dishonest from the start.
chocomalk 6 months ago
@chocomalk
I haven't seen a build up as the decay rate is a short 33-45 min. My wipes always end up "clean" after a day or so. What ever it is I'm collecting it decays quickly. I'm not convinced this is from Fukushima. It looks like it's from the jet stream.
electrosyl 6 months ago
Everything is SAFE, there's no reason to be concern, TRUST your GOV'T!
rbolo29 6 months ago
@rbolo29
Don't forget to OBEY and SHOP MORE... "They Live!!!" That was a good movie. Highly recommend it to anyone who hasn't seen it. My Geiger counter is my "sunglasses", figuratively speaking... LOL
electrosyl 6 months ago
Theres a link to your video on rense.com. That's why it's going viral. Thanks for the video. I guess it's time to break out my Ludlum and see what's going on in my area?
zulucowboy 6 months ago
@zulucowboy
Cool! Thanks for doing that!
Man the net is a beautiful thing!!!
electrosyl 6 months ago
20 000cpm with bare hands? get real... fake... plus he should know that meter doesn't read Alpha, sheeesh...
hibypass 6 months ago
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hibypass 6 months ago
@hibypass
Fake? I wish it was. I made this video to inform and challenge my fellow man.
If you can't deal with reality, that's fine...
Anyway, I didn't think the agents from the matrix would have caught up with me this quick.
Look what kills all of us, kills you too. Why are you trying to lead people away from the truth with easily provable lies? Is this the best you can come up with? If that's the case, we got nothing to worry about your kind. have a nice day, I hope you see the light. :o)
electrosyl 6 months ago 7
you need gloves
abitdodgie 6 months ago
That's pretty wild. I built a pancake alpha detector recently and was noticing higher readings on the ground than in the air, after rain. But I didn't test so soon after rain. I'll definitely try this next time.
:-o
doug694 6 months ago
I am glad you made this very important video, I gave it a thumbs down because even though it is good info to know, I do not like what I hear.
SleepingGiantsSister 6 months ago
@SleepingGiantsSister you are burring this video by doing that
CapsuleShapedEscape 6 months ago
@CapsuleShapedEscape Really? I did not know that, I thought honest input was still rating input for the video, I didn't know that my rating this video a thumbs down would have any effect on viewings at all. Nope, I still have to go with my gut feeling on video rating, and again, this was a great video, but nothing is going to make me thumbs up the fact that radiation is bombarding the world that I love.
SleepingGiantsSister 6 months ago
They're hiding it all. They don't want anyone to know about this and will feign ignorance once the cancer clusters start showing up in the doctors office. Unbelievable......but not unbelievable.....since their whole plan is to cull the herd any way they can anyhow.
elfinarcher84 6 months ago
Thanks for the info and keep it coming. I'm in the GTA also and was wondering if there was any radiation contamination in the rain and you just answered that question. Very grateful..
kahhnn 6 months ago
How reliable is the thing you use to measure? I ask because my books on metrology never mention radioactivity. Also - neutrons must be very hard to detect; have you any way to detect them? (There's also the possibility of things like UV, X rays, cosmic rays).
rerevisionist 6 months ago
@rerevisionist
I'm an instrumentation tech by trade so I can vouch that despite my instrument not being calibrated to cesium-137, the disintegrations you hear in video are real. The counts per minute analog display was check with a frequency pulse generator and it was bang on. So yes, I would say its pretty reliable for rough work. It's like using a tape measure vs a micrometer. So if I measure 2" inches of flood water, what's the point of measuring 2.0343"? Two inches is good enough for me...
electrosyl 6 months ago
@electrosyl
I looked at old books I have on science and meteorology and I too found no mention that radiation in the rain was normal. The first case I saw was reported in the 1980's when a nuke plant worker came from his house to enter the plant and the alarm bells went off. Turns out he had the highest levels of radon recorded in his house ever seen. I also saw that sometimes the workers coming from the rain also tripped the alarms. The levels were set very low to detect fuel flees.
electrosyl 6 months ago
@electrosyl On April 25th 1953 the US tested an atomic bomb in Nevada: Fallout and strong rain went down on New York, parts of Vermont and Masachusetts. Half a million people were affected. 270,000 micro curie were measured in the City “Troy”. The NRC standard is 100 micro curie. But the USAEC didn’t make epidemiological study. Chance missed, Nuclear 1, Humanity ZERO. 1962; Ralph E. Lapp, “Nevada Test Fallout and Radioiodine in Milk,”
Tekknorg 6 months ago
@Tekknorg
I don't think they missed out on the opportunity, the results were shelved for only the few anointed to see...
electrosyl 6 months ago
@electrosyl - OK, thanks for replying. I didn't make it clear what I meant, though. The thing makes sounds - but what exactly is it that's being detected? That's the point. And, also, what isn't detected?
rerevisionist 6 months ago
@rerevisionist
I'm detecting the charged particles from atomic decay that enters the Geiger tube and ionizes the gas. Each time a particle comes in, a sudden drop in the electrode voltage causes a click in the speaker of the unit and moves the needle of the meter a certain amount. The more particles, the more clicks, the more the needle moves. Think of it as a speedometer on your car. It will detect alpha, beta and gamma rays. It will not detect neutrons. It also detects soft X-rays from a TV.
electrosyl 6 months ago
@electrosyl - Yes. You're quoting the standard line. Suppose as another example you have rubber shoes and get an electrostatic charge. Presumably that meter will show a high reading if the charge gets discharged slowly by e.g. dust in the atmosphere. What people are getting at here is that the reading is hard to interpret. And neutrons are what fission is supposed to give off; if there's a 'radiation danger' and you can't measure them, what use is the meter? You might at least acknowledge
rerevisionist 6 months ago
@rerevisionist
Not all decay releases neutrons. Look on the web, see what it takes to detect free neutrons and you'll see that most people can't afford that equipment. Geiger counters are affordable. I'm very well aware that corona discharge can mimic Geiger counts. I'm a tech and I can recognized problems like that. I assure you my instrument was worked properly. Look at the video, when I bring sample the counts go up, when I remove the sample the counts go down. Corona discharge is constant.
electrosyl 6 months ago
@electrosyl - you're like someone who says "I can't detect X rays - never mind, I'll detect ordinary light instead". Your readings are worthless. You seem unable to understand thins.
rerevisionist 6 months ago
@rerevisionist
I actually tested my Geiger meter on a large color TV and I picked soft x-rays around the flyback and the neck of the 2nd Anode... I also have a lux meter in case you're wondering...
O.K. I'll give in, my measurements are worthless. I'll take back ground radiation as my base (40cpm) and I'll say that I observed that the rain was (20Kcpm/40cpm=) 500 times back ground radiation per sq. meter. There, are you saying that what I observed is worthless? Next you'll say it didn't rain?
electrosyl 6 months ago
@electrosyl - 'Next I'll say it didn't rain'. OK. I won't spend any more time on this. You can't understand the points that several posters here, including me, are making. Never mind.
rerevisionist 6 months ago
@rerevisionist
I'm sorry, I'm too stupid for you... But don't let that stop you, just use another identity next time you post and people will get the idea that there is a consensus here that I'm way off the mark and there is no radiation at all in the rain. Yiks! Folks check out his channel...His avatar is of Bertrand Russell, a eugenicist amongst other things... His videos express doubts as to whether nuclear weapons ever worked. Need I say more. This guy is into NWO. This too much fun! LOL
electrosyl 6 months ago
@electrosyl
I just reread your post... "Presumably that meter will show a high reading if the charge gets discharged slowly by e.g. dust in the atmosphere."
Either you're trying to confuse people, or you're confused yourself... This is a Geiger Mueller tube, not an electrometer type instrument. Unless I have moisture in the wiring and get coronal discharge, this Geiger tube is NOT, I repeat NOT affected by ambient electrostatic charge. Ever hear of a Faraday cage?
Folks, this guy is a trol...
electrosyl 6 months ago
holy fuck thats high!
aegirer 6 months ago
@aegirer
That's what I think too...
electrosyl 6 months ago
Here's Half-Life 3!
MrDarkTides 6 months ago
you're really not messing with us? cause that would be really cruel.
dieselphiend 6 months ago
@dieselphiend
Oh no, I wouldn't do that. It's way to much work to put up a video and respond to messages just for a prank.
I know this will cause anxiety in some people. But maybe, just maybe that will motivate them to research and verify things a bit for themselves. Knowledge is empowering and that's the cure to anxiety.
I've been detecting radiation in the rain (snow) since last March 21st. So this isn't a one of type occurrence, like a small burp from a nuke plant.
No, this is real.
electrosyl 6 months ago
@electrosyl well thanks very much for the post, though it's very disconcerting. next time, just for the sake of comparison, can you test the paper towel first?
dieselphiend 6 months ago
We are all toast.
yaplonglong 6 months ago
@yaplonglong
I wouldn't say that, but I would start looking at avoiding this crap. The levels are no where near glow in the dark levels (Cherenkov blue glow). But a lot of research point that all things being equal, long term low level exposure is far worse than short bursts of high radiation. It's not a linear thing, as it was once thought of.
So keep your immune system strong and eat healthy (organic).
electrosyl 6 months ago
@electrosyl indeed, and lots of anti-oxidents...
dieselphiend 6 months ago
how can we avoid it? won't it be transferred to anything that takes on water, i,e. vegetables, milk, drinking water, juice, soda, grains, etc?
what isotope do you suspect, and what's it half-life?
dieselphiend 6 months ago
@dieselphiend
I believe them to be Radon daughters with a variable decay rate half life measured to be from 33-45 minutes depending on selective wash out in the atmosphere. It varies from storm to storm and varies from sample taken at the beginning and at the end of the storm. I found the range to be always in the 33-45 minutes. I Once saw 50 minutes, but I got distracted during the observation so I could have been wrong by 5 minutes or so. It decays so quick that I doubt it's a hazard in food.
electrosyl 6 months ago
@electrosyl so glad you're measuring the hl.
dieselphiend 6 months ago
@electrosyl You mean the "organic" that's grown outside getting the same radiation rain water, sounds yummy.
lostinthemix 6 months ago
@lostinthemix
I'm building a green house for myself, need I say more?
electrosyl 6 months ago
@electrosyl Greenhouse is a great idea but it won't be 100% take some readings after you have it built.
lostinthemix 6 months ago
hi, damn thats not normal 20.000 cpm only seen it that high when 3 ppl from safecast went to fukushima look for :How I spent my Sunday in Fukushima real nice report and scary numbers.
i dont think it from geo-engineering but cant be sure ofcoz but we are beeing sprayed 2-3 times a day here in holland/europe and we dont see those jumps in CPM or μSv/h, before fuku we had 13-20 cpm as normal background rad. and now its 30-45 avarage and jumps when it rains to 60-70 cpm.
SoSanl76 6 months ago
@SoSanl76
Yeah, I think it high too that's why I posted my vid. If numbers don't mean anything to some of you, just listen to the speaker fry like popcorn! It's not right... Something is up and it's big and pretty much everywhere. The silence from our governments is deafening.
Having a Geiger counter really makes you appreciate the reality of it all. Otherwise, it just another interesting YouTube Video... Get your own counter and start measuring folks! It will be worth your while.
electrosyl 6 months ago
thanks for making this info available...i also live in north Toronto...i saw this link from the Jeff Rense Program...i also shared the link on my Facebook page...but i bet most of my 'friends' will disregard it as just another one of my crazy conspiracy stories...by the way, how much does one of those probes cost?...i wonder if we could make an i-phone application that measures radiation...peace
simonrolo 6 months ago
@simonrolo
Yeah, some people will never wake up. It's their choice... Shop around on ebay, you can find some pretty good deals. Make sure you get a pancake type tube, otherwise the old civil defense meters aren't sensitive enough with the hot dog type tubes. When I got mine the tube was punctured, I replaced it with one from LND inc. and it works great. The probes are typically interchangeable between units if they have a BNC connectors. I'm partial to older instruments but digital is fine too.
electrosyl 6 months ago
One possibility lightning generated photo-fission interacting with high atomic weight Fukushima fallout; the stronger the storm the higher the reach. see my blog spot for more info
pissinontheroses.blogspot.com/2011/07/unresearched-threat-of-fukushima-photo.html
potrblog 6 months ago
@potrblog
Very interesting... Mains stream science is not very progressive and I've done quite a bit of research on this, ie. Hutchinson effdect, Tesla, John Bedini home made transistors transmuting elements etc...
There appears to be something going on with quick high voltage discharges that transmutes elements. ZPE or resonances with "ether" appears to do what sciences says is impossible, causing decay or changing the rate of decay of elements without neutrons bombardment.
electrosyl 6 months ago
@potrblog
Dang, I wished we weren't limited to this 500 characters or less thing...
To finish my point, I think it's very likely that some strange physics could be going on here. I noticed that the worse the storm is, the higher they are(30 000-50 000 feet), the worse the radiation fallout tends to be in my area. That is why I don't agree that's it's local Radon gas seeping from the mines and rock formations. It's just too much radioactivity in my humble opinion. By hey, someone prove me wrong.
electrosyl 6 months ago
@electrosyl Supposedly the Sun is mutating matter, according the NASA. It is something they have never seen or known about before, supposedly. I wonder if this might be affecting the readings, and producing ; like you say, some strange new physics we just dont know about? I tend to believe its more nefarious in Nature, and what is going on is from Humans, but then again, that is just my conspiratorial mindset.
rea1001 6 months ago
@rea1001
Yep , its all valid conjecture at this point as far as I'm concerned. The answer might prove to be much simpler in the end. So for now, I absorb it all and we'll see what comes out at the other end. This ain't normal for sure...
electrosyl 6 months ago
@electrosyl That's exactly the same as I have noted in my findings, stronger storms pull fallout from higher in the atmosphere; The EXCEPTION is tropical storms blowing in from AFRICA, I have measured ZERO radioactivity in those storms watch?v=NbdYM2PuDgk. The EPA Radnet data censoring also correlates well to the strongest storms watch?v=2EXAqDWVYyg.
potrblog 6 months ago
@potrblog
Very interesting... That is another point I forgot to make about an earlier post. I read that Radon does not leach out of the oceans. So if it were ground Radon that was washing out, it wouldn't care whether the clouds formed over the Atlantic or over the main land, it would always be there. You're saying Tropical storms don't bring radiation... So, I conclude that it must be coming from the jet stream blowing from west to east here in North America... Fukushima, Chem trails? Dunno...
electrosyl 6 months ago
thanks, this is the first reading I've seen from my general area of the world.
manekinekotattoo 6 months ago
@manekinekotattoo
I'm the kind of guy that believes only what he see's for himself.
If I saw a YouTube video of what I posted, I would want to try it for myself before I believed it.
This is real folks! There is no trick in what I videoed. My equipment is working fine.
I didn't spike the wipe with anything. I strongly urge people to buy a good used pancake type Geiger meter on ebay and see things for yourselves. Reality is much more interesting than TV. At least to me it is...
electrosyl 6 months ago
I grew up in a village just north of Toronto & they instructed us in school, during the early sixties, not to eat the snow, when Hanford WA had dangerous releases. There were times when we were warned not to drink local milk, or eat local leafy vegatables & THE GOVERNMENT COLLECTED OUR BABY TEETH! I bet you never heard about that. The ill winds have always blown your way.
willsirotak 6 months ago
@willsirotak
How times have changed. Now they manage public opinion instead. No no evil, hear no evil...
electrosyl 6 months ago
You mention a quarry nearby? Is that a granite quarry? Might explain some of this.
mauibrad 6 months ago
@mauibrad
You're very astute! The quarry is a sand and gravel quarry. The formation was caused by the last ice age when all the ground up rocks in the ice flows melted out and collected here. 12 000 -14 000 years ago, this area was under something like 3km of ice! The formation under the sand and gravel is limestone (dolostone) left over from an ancient ocean. There is very little granite here, except the odd erratic boulder or pebbles carried over by the ice. This area is not known for Radon.
electrosyl 6 months ago
@electrosyl You've got a bunch of granite quarries in your area close enough to be causing most of this reading. See "List of Mining and Mineral Processing Operations in Canada - Granite" at mmsd(dot)mms(dot)nrcan(dot)gc(dot)ca
mauibrad 6 months ago
@mauibrad
Thanks for the link. I just checked and it's all listed as sand and gravel in my area. The closest granite mines are at least 100 km away or there about.
If it was Radon from granite or uranium mines, it would be a ground effect Radon. Radon is 8x as heavy as air and collects in the first 100 meters of atmosphere. The rain would wash it all out after 15 minutes or so. That is not what I'm seeing, if it rains all day, it increases right up until the rain stops. So I tend to disagree.
electrosyl 6 months ago
@electrosyl 100 km is not too far away for the granite quarries. More likely to be getting high CPM from there than from 1000's of km away. Don't get me wrong, I think at least 100 CPM of that is from Fukushima.
mauibrad 6 months ago
I've noticed lately that on days when there exceptionally high levels of moisture in the air ie; fog or rain, my eyes get sore and burn. I too live just north of Toronto and would really like to know what is in this precipitation. Let me know if you find out anymore about this. Thx.
nsnwac 6 months ago
@nsnwac
Ah ha! So I'm not the only one... It's not my imagination or the power of suggestion on my part. I noticed that too. When the radioactivity is high, my throat feels scratchy, it always goes away a few hours latter as soon as the radiation dies down. If there is lots of fog or rain but the radiation is normal, I don't seem to get this effect.
Strange...So, could it be the ionizing particles inhaled in the lungs causing irritation?
electrosyl 6 months ago
@electrosyl I am so happy that you are confirming my physical symtoms! I too get that scratchy throat feeling, burning eyes, feeling like I'm gonn'a come done with something and then "pouff" it goes away? Maybe some of us are more succeptable and physically feel this irridation more than others? I would definatley confirm your hypotheses that these particles are lung irritatants and reacking havock upon us! Peace & love to you & yours!
nsnwac 6 months ago
@nsnwac
Yeah, my thoughts too. But the doctor says its all in your head.... ;o)
I'm amazed at the response I got from everyone and it's not even been 48 hrs yet since I posted... Over 1000 plus views! I hit a nerve... It this video going viral or what?
Now I wish I had done a better job with the audio and the video. Maybe some music and graphics to dress it up a bit... Maybe the realism would have been lost. Oh well, next time it rains I try and do better...
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