Bottom Deal - JOEYFX

[CyrilTakayama1973]

i hope u use Bicycle .tally ho like this kind deck because got white border

ur camera angle also hide ur skill ,if we can see it clearly ,i think we can get u more feedback and suggestion

[BnibroC69]

Hi Joey,

The deal looks good. A tip that really helped me with my finger flash is to hold the fingers lower on the deck, as if you were holding half a deck.

Sometimes I will curl the third finger so that the tip of it is pressing against the bottom card, almost like for a push out deal (I use a strike though). This greatly reduces it, but the grip looks a bit more awkward.

I'm sure you already know of this one, but you can also try holding the fingers flatter.

Good luck!

[denkste144]

@BnibroC69 thanks for the tips

although I already gave up on the move :P

[BnibroC69]

@denkste144 Oh, that's too bad. I stopped practicing it for a while too.

As far as real games go it is getting more and more limited in application. I pretty much only practice it with about 3/4 of a deck or less now. It's a good move for Omaha but for hold 'em you kind of need to do it with a full deck.

Pretty frustrating move... Everytime I try to correct something with it I end up messing something else up.

[elcartomago]

Nice bottom deal man , its funny cos I actually use the same grip as you I actually find your bottom deal really alike mine and I also have the same problem with the mechanics grip ! Keep it up man !

[theadvocate1000]

Looks good for me. The way I learned bottom is I'm adding this neck tie movement, so its not too expose mostly when you have a player on your left. And I'm also trying to sail all cards in a consistent pattern mostly when I'm getting the card at the bottom.

[furnit]

looks ok. as a practice tip is good to sail all the cards, including the bottoms.

[TheJaybobStrett44]

Damm i wouldn't want to play poker against you! :P

[DeckDudes]

is this a strike or do you use some kind of buckling action? either way it's really good, keep it up!

[Buddyvision2010]

oooo that's nice.

what was the source?

[kingarthurlove]

It looks good; I am also working on my bottoms =)

But the way I do it is to turn my wrist down when you deal the cards, so that people cannot see you deal the card from the bottom.

In "Fast Company", the person said that it is better to turn your wrist down so that the card is above the deck when it takes out from bottom.

Oh well, Idk --- thsi is what I learn about bottom and so just share with you =)

- Arthur

[denkste144]

@kingarthurlove Hey man thanks alot for sharing your experience :)

when I practised dealing bottoms to different "seats" (like to the third player), I kept doing this wrist turn and so it looked really obvious because you could tell that I just dealt a bottom because of the wrist turn ( hope that just made sense :D )

so I guess thats why I stopped doing it

but its definitely something I could start to experiement again, so thanks alot for mentioning :)

[kingarthurlove]

@denkste144 OHHH, I get what you mean~

I also noticed that problem too, and so I DO MY WRIST TURN to any seat --- to make each "deal" looks identical.

O well, I know that it will make it SOOO different of my second deals and top deal.

But then, I just care not to flash my bottom deal first.

If I really need to makes the usage of my second deal and bottom deal in the future,

then I will try to find other ways to get around the "dealing" motion =\

[cardfreakable]

almost invisible just need the make your shuffle a bit more clean

[denkste144]

@cardfreakable just wondering, whats not clean about my shuffles?

[cardfreakable]

@denkste144 just the slight throwing of te last packet but like i said in beuty of shuffles that was the reasons i subscribed

[TheBradTobin]

I think the deal looks great, my only critique is that you place the deck into position for the deal, if your using this for magic and your pattering try squaring the deck on the table with one hand when you pick it up, in that action its very easy to get into the right position for the deal. The erdnase grip looks very natural in your hands but anyone whos doing it feels it looks strange in their own hands even though it doesnt.

[denkste144]

@TheBradTobin thanks for the comment, I'll watch your video again ( the one with the bottom deal tip )

cause your doing it great

[VTMB2]

Perfect @@

[FrankysMagicStuff]

Niice bottom deal! It isn't bad!

[UnknownMagician93]

This actually looks very good man. My only critique is that you need to go right from the shuffle/cut to the deal. dont take time to reposition the deck in your hand. work on picking up and dealing.

Are you doing the erdnase deal or is it a variation using erdnase grip?

[denkste144]

@UnknownMagician93 yeah that huge delay and grip adjustment is one of my biggest problems along with the rythm

its a variation on the erdnase grip

I hate it actually, but the master grip or the mechanics grip don't work for me as the deck always keeps sliding out of my hand

thanks for the feedback

[UnknownMagician93]

@denkste144 I think I have something you will like;) pm me.

[shr4yas]

Damn nice.

Love the slow motion from 0:08, its so surreal !

is that a plugin ? Or is it just the time remapping ?

[WhiteTigerMagician]

The ring finger extends out a bit (finger flash). work on that and keep a steady rhythm and pace. A lot of people who bottom deal hesitate that they arent going to do it well so their rhythm and flow is thrown off. Think that you are going to do the best bottoms ever and you will start to see that it will build up (rhythm and flow). Keep it up!

[ShudiniMagic]

I think it is pretty smooth. But maybe you could shorten the break after each round of dealing to make it a bit more fluent.

[BCardician]

You modest son of a *%^&#.I think you made a typing mistake.You've written "bad" instead of "badASS".

[denkste144]

@BCardician lol, nah I just think the erdnase grip doesn't look right in my hands, but sadly its the only grip that works for me and the rythm doesn't look natural either

[TheMovingBones]

Where is the sound?

[denkste144]

@TheMovingBones like always I made a video edited to music and then youtube just muted it -_-

Im using this audioswap thing so there should be another track soon

[DEFThands08]

it's funny how the experienced think they are terrible and the rest of us who know little about this are like holy shit ;)

[4L3X101]

if this is pretty bad so how bout my bottom deal? worst. -_-

[codecrt321]

nice stuff man