Dawkins, you are right on. Catholics teach that if one gives the child to the church for the first five years of their life, the child will remsin Catholic all their life. I was raised such. The good Chistians of the world have cured me of Christianity. D. Alexandr D'Maddalena
Once again I think Richard Dawkins was hit on the head what an idiot, let Dawkins teach your kid with his religious hating atheistic ideology oh yea thats a lot better than religion RIGHT!
@glendaweil he said teach kids every religion goods and bads not just good parts and than kids make their own decisions as to what they wish to believe in , he didnt say teach them religion is bad and that they should not be religious
@ianul28 He said religion was wicked what are you hard of hearing. He has no right to tell parents what to teach there kids if thats what he wants to teach his kids thats fine but he needs to but out of other peoples business on how and what they teach there children.
@glendaweil he spoke his point of view ? i dont see anything wrong with that or i dont see how that teaches kids something bad , unlike religion he spoke his point of view didnt try to force people into believing the same thing as him , im pretty sure religios people are trying to force religios onto people thats why downtown everycity you hear praise jesus or allah will save you and not religious is wicked you shall do what richard dawkins says or you die, no thats religion
@ianul28 First of all religion is not being forced on anybody relgious people are supposed to try to convert people but no one forces anyone into a religion that is baseless and ignorent, if I come up to you and say I want to talk about my saviour you have every right to say no thanks.
@glendaweil no but it is forcing when they do it everyday to everyone on the street saying they will end up in hell unless they accept god into their heart
@ianul28 What world are you living in I hear nothing of the sort if you do not wish to participate ignore it if you are approached or hear it I ignore stupid things I hear from idiot atheist you can do the same.
@glendaweil go down town any big city you will see people saying join our saviour jesus christ who died for you , anyone on his side will go to heaven the rest will suffer forever in hell =.=
@ianul28 People trying to help people what an outrage who are these people geez. Come on people have preached on street corners as long as there have been street corners and you say thats a bad thing well you are wrong but I expect nothing less from an ignorent atheist.
@glendaweil exactly you think your helping people by putting nonesense in their mind and scaring them , thinking your religion is much better and anyone else beneath it will die in hell. If you saw athiests on the street saying religion is wrong we are here to help you see the right choice you would think exactly like i do right now. if you see people preach about a different god other than yours you would think it is outragous and wrong just like i think it is with every religion
@ianul28 Look you idiot we have something called freedom in this country it mean you are free to think act or follow which ever religion or idiology you choose it is a choice you apparently have problems with people having there own choice about what they believe so maybe you would be more comfortable in a socialist country where freedoms are not so abundant so get a passport and haul ass good luck and farwell.
@glendaweil there is also freedom to not have to listen to dumbasses like u everyday in the morning to accept god in our hearts , i have also freedom to say that i believe religion is wicked and so does richard dawkins so you shouldn't be talking he has the freedom to do say what ever he wants and when did i say you have no freedom ? why do you keep switching the subject each time ? stick to one subject
@ianul28 You have the freedom to express whatever idiotic bs you want, and unlike you I can follow more than one subject and discuss it at one time and you calling someone dumbass is rich try looking in the mirror and you will see what dumbass really looks like.
@glendaweil sorry i dont see any christians in the mirror lets say im the dumbass , explain how did moses get in an ark over 3000000 insects , animals etc , how did they survive after the flood with no plants since it would take a long time to survive and how in hell did they manage to repopulate the whole world back to about 6 billion people from 2 persons and be different races =.= tell me the smart answer for that question =.= since im the dumbass and my dumbass answer is never happened
I agree with dawkins hear shut up christians muslims he's totally right.
I'm a christian brought up by christians but trust me it's not because i;m in that family that i'm a christian they gave me total freedom for what i wanted to choose JESUS !:)
What about pre-Christian English culture and Royals? There is a very rich pre-Chrsitian culture that needs to be taken into account instead of just the exclusively sell-out historic point of view.
@thatamazinggeek I am talking about objective morality. Anyone can decide what they think is moral, but to suppose there are objective moral values assumes a higher power that imposes them on us. Christians don't surrender moral judgment to a deity. It is the deity that defines morality. From an evolutionary point of view, how is our composition of matter more important than a rock, plant, or animal? Why should destroying a human be any worse than destroying a plant?
Dawkins, the great intellectual imbecile, calls teaching religion wicked, but what is he basing this on? He can be no means define wicked or good from the atheistic world view. Of course, I understand that in order for an atheist to exist in society they cannot take their beliefs seriously. I don't think I'll ever meet a consistent atheist.
@YHWHisSovereign It might be difficult to wrap your head around morality without god, but there are billions of people who live great lives without god. Your inability to understand it does not have any bearing on its validity. To your specific point, Sam Harris (an atheist) doesn't even ascribe to subjective morality. Try watching one of his TED talks and then tell me atheists can't define wicked or good objectively. We don't need a god to know slavery is wrong (your god seems to favor it).
@PointLarusso Are you in favor of enslaving animals in order to use them for food, transportation, or just simply as a pet? What principles do you use to say whether or not Hilter's morality was any better or worse than yours?
@YHWHisSovereign If you were honestly sincere about your question, I hope you follow through with my answer. In regards to using animals as food/transportation, I would recommend you watch "Peter Singer - the Genius of Darwkin, The Uncut Interviews". In regards to why Hitler's morality was worse than mine "Sam Harris - Why Science Can Determine Human Values." Both atheists, both on youtube, both answer your question, both free on youtube. Cheers.
Well its easy for Dawkins to argue against Muslim and Catholic faith considering they are just wrong. But if he would look into Christian Protestant Reformed Theology. And Dawkins might not even know he is advocating his own faith. I men this well educated man is foolish enough to say that we came from aliens.
On the final point; It doesn't matter where you are on the globe. Killing is wrong and child abuse is wrong. Geography doesn't make it okay to kill your children.
Christianity also has penalties, typical a form of exile not death, but lets not forget the threat of an eternity of torture in hell.
Dawkins was surely wrong, it is only that Christianity has become very liberal and forbidden to exercises many of the scriptural laws by the secular Constitution of America. As many unorthodox Christian which escaped religious prosecution in Europe, only to do the same to those which denied their beliefs in the Americas
I love it when Richard Dawkins kicks the ass of that fucking ugly dirty islamic missionary by asking him " What is the penalty for apostasy ? What do you teach the children will happen to them if they give up their muslim faith ? " It is funny the islamic missionary notices that he is getting fucked up so he replies " Well, let's bring the debate back to Britain ". Dodging always works even in Islam !
I wonder if Dawkins would support raising a child in a gender neutral environment so that he or she isn't influenced by others as to which gender he/she should assume. Perhaps children should be kept separated from any possible influence that would taint their purity of mind until such age as they can successfully defend that purity against the encroachment of others. Or does Dawkins just hate religion with the fervor of a fundamentalist?
@motomambo You are an idiot. Dawkins is against pigeonholing children into your own religion before they are able to know what you are getting them into.
@Sirstingray Well if gender roles are imposed on children by their parents and society then are we not abusing children by forcing them to adopt roles they didn't choose and may not be suitable for?
Well gender roles aren't as imposed, they are more reinforced I would say, seems that gender differences are innate, natural and necessary.
And in fact you are highlighting a good point... You should tell kids: "you are a boy" or "you are a girl". You shouldn't however tell them "you can't act like that because you are a boy". Enforcing your beliefs on how boys should behave is the same as enforcing your religious beliefs on a child.
@motomambo He'd rather children of muslims weren't told they'd be hunted down and murdered for leaving islam. or if they speak ill of mohammed (piss be upon him).
if he did hate religion- which he does- what has that to do with the validity of his statements?
You constantly hear our leaders telling us that Islam is a religion of peace and there you have it. They force their children to join there religion and kill them if they ever leave. The Quran also taches they can not mix with non Muslims or take them as friends. They are training there children to hate us.
Notice how the muslims did not want to answer the question of what is the penalty for leaving the religion.
Religion is based on control and manipulation as well as threats of death / torture.
I honestly feel the only reason Christians are not torturing people like they did during the inquistions is the United States was not founded on Christianity or any religion.
When religion runs government slavery and torture are common place.
Muslims are subhuman. A religion of fathers who murder their own daughters and women regarded as livestock. Allowing their filthy kind to live in the West was a sore mistake. Honour killings have happened in the UK, Canada, and the US. Capital punishment ror apostacy is NOT limited to islamic countries. It should be though. Lets exile these desert rats!
I love how Mukadam asks the woman, in a sarcastic tone of course, whether or not the father who murdered his daughter because of a stupid Muslim religious thing attented a Muslim school. This is completely irrelevant, and she should've chosen to point that out. She was using an example of how women are degraded, not what goes on in Muslim schools. And yet, he fails to see the relevance in Dawkins' question, which he avoids answering for a good seven minutes. Total hypocrisy, of course.
Dawkins: What is the penalty for leaving the muslim faith?
Dr Mukhardan: "If its an Islamic country, then the Shariah is very clear, apostasy is dealt with the death penalty....Whats the relevence between whats happens in an Islamic country and Great Britain? I fail to see the connection."
Islam is a religion of peace and Scientology is a religion of milk and cookies.
09:30 "What's the relevance... I fail to see the connection"
The relevance, my friend, is that you're Muslim, and so you probably condone Sharia Law (If you don't, why the hell are you a member of Islam?). Islam is growing in the UK, I don't want to find out what happens to this country when there're mad men with horrific ideals roaming around the place. Don't get me wrong, there already are horrible people here, but Muslim's are not needed here. I want rid of Islam. Now.
It is better to don't teach children religion, only science, and let them choose when they are older. I was not contaminated by any religion as I grew :)
@superCatia you're lucky, it took me years to detatch the burden of guilt of sin for example. Religion is brainwashing that I unfortunately was part of when I was a child thanks to my parents.
Yes, I have always felt lucky. Religion is anti-life, it is good that you have liberated yourself. Just take the good things with you, and leave the bad behind.
@superCatia "religion is anti-life" I couldn't agree more. They focus so much on the after life that this life is seemingly meaningless. They waste their once chance, their one opportunity to have a happy successful life on their "God." Suppressing themselves emotionally, feeling guilty about their alleged sins. Its a shame really, a psychological ball and chain that I am glad to be rid of.
@Pyroman162 i totally agree, i have been out of religion for years now but that guilt still creeps in. its terrible they brainwash people so bad it just sticks with you for years.
i grew up in a religious school, and was a deception, lucky me my mother gave me other introduce me with the world of DESMOND MORRIS: the naked ape. i could't believe in those stupid nuns and their lies my pther friends and i saw them having sex with the driver or the gardener,people haven't reach the age of reason. is full of dogma religion drugs t.v.media consumerism, and garbage.where is the people's faith?if they breaktheir own morals and laws.bunch of lies religion. there is no proof of god
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i wouldn't raise my children to reject all faith and become a confused and wicked like Dawkins. Richard is eloquent i appreciate that but he is too blunt too understand the sincerity of personal faith and values of people. He may propagate the idea of "god delusion" but he cant prove the non-existence of God either.
Proving the non-existance of something is an impossibility. The burden of proof is on the people asserting the claim. Religious people have to prove the existance of god; until existance is proven, I will remain a person who lacks belief in a diety.
There are many things for which we can't prove non-existence. Immaterial goblins in my garden, Russels tea pot, FSM, Unicorns, Yeti, Odin, Shiva, and any of the millions of other fantasies that have ever existed are all simularily unfalsifiable. That does NOT mean that we teach them as true. It means that we have no evidence for them and therefor must dismiss them as representative of the truth. For if you accept one thing with is without support, you must accept them all.
There is one thing in common: God. People and Nations interpret God in different ways. And that is the reason why I say that No Religion Is Wrong. You, atheists, just don't understand that...
Every religion is wrong. That's what you people just don't understand. Most religions have caused deaths at one time or another in history, and they spawn fundamentalists who take it too far. People and nations choose to interpret what they want, and that's a terrible thing because it allows them to do whatever they want as long as they slap a god's name in front of their intentions. Explain to me what makes my opinion wrong but your opinion about religion right.
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Dawkins at 4.45 come on now are you saying that you have a moral standard without being tolerant to your claim.... what has graven image got to do with it, I am sure you know the answer stop struggling with the truth.
Can anybody help me, I want to deny religion. But God existence is very difficult for me to deny. I like the idea of there is no God and religion, and then I can do everything that I like. But then which one is absolute? I am confused. Shouldn't be there is a certainty. I feel like being rebellious only, without being honest to my intelligence.
You can't do anything you like even if there is no god. There isn't punishment in afterlife, but you still have to face earthly consequences for your actions. Having said that, you have denounced god and religion every day of your life, but you probably just don't think about it this way. I will assume that you are Christian. If that is so, you have denied Islam every day of your life. So denying god isn't hard, as long as it isn't the god you were indoctrinated into initially.
"Can anybody help me, I want to deny religion. But God existence is very difficult for me to deny. I like the idea of there is no God and religion, and then I can do everything that I like."
Its quite simple, invent a religion, and claim that god is speaking to you and supports your agenda/claims/lifestyle. If you are really lucky, and you get followers, you could get tax breaks!
religion has its place in the world but anyone with half an ounce of common sense can see that the islamic faith is extremely backwards and more often than ignorant see the way the man dodges the question?
just another example of how backwards and ignorant the islamic faith is if a child grows up and decides Islam is not for them they are to be killed? and they say people who beleieve otherwise are the infidels? wake up its the 21st century
The Muslim has it backwards: raising children is not a right, it is a responsibility. We don't let parents raise their kids to think incest is okay. We intercede if it turns out they're keeping their kids in cages or pooping on them. Kids aren't property over which you have rights; they are growing human beings for which you have responsibility, and nobody has the right to sew another person's mind shut with superstition and prejudice and psychosis.
Jesus followed the standard the Father laid before Him, this is Love. I say also that Jesus is alive to day and changing lives. I rather tell a child, that it is wrong because Jesus said so and why, than to say that it is wrong without direction.
Harmonyww Yes you are right " X " is wrong because it is selfish...etc.
And it is every parents responsibility to make there children aware. I believe we need all families to unit to work together and we need a force to unit us together. To have order we need order. And the only reference to this I have found in the bible (The Father Son and Holy spirit).
Read the standard God laid down. Read Deuteronomy. If you teach your child to do any of the things God command, I'm calling child services on you, seeing how absolutely wicked God is.
You seem to be lose in the old testimony teach your children about Jesus. God sent His Son into the world not to condemn the world. The Old testimony is the path to the cross and is life. You missed the point I was making about Love between the Father & Son. Plus read Isaiah & other scriptures many stating the coming of Christ. And U missed the point how God delivered many from the hands of the enemies (& how wicked they are). I say this when I died I will face a God who is real not a wimp.
You are funny there was the OLD book and then along came some guy who created the NEW. SO GOD EVOLVED! Odd that we are supposedly gods children and yet god made a son. WOW guess that means god made a mistake and therefore is certainly not perfect. Jesus is definately the downfall of christian beliefs, it contradicts itself and proves god with your belief is not perfect.
Yes we are all children of God if you read the bible we all inherit a share of the Kingdom through what Jesus did for us. And to say God created a Son and to think who are we( children of God) that sounds contradictory, looking into it the way your seeing it "yes" it would , rather look with the truth (Eyes of God) we all fall short of God's glory Jesus did not. God is a God of order.
*I* do. But no need to, to make the point. My vegetarian question was to PottersBass, who is wrong in stating that Jesus followed the 'standard' of the Father before him. Jesus is a clear improvement on the 'old man', but still has no qualms about defenseless animals dying so he can stuff his beardy face.
I'm not preaching that people become vegetarians, I'm merely stating that I have a better moral compass than the golden child. And I got that from me, myself and I - not bible required.
Yeah, with the Greeks, a girl who fooled around could just say, "Uh, yeah...mom, dad? I was walking to get water the other day, and Zeus appeared as a glowing orb. Anyway, long story short--I'm pregnant."
I have three children. I'm an atheist and my husband is a christian. I want my children to make their own decisions about what they want to believe. I've told them that. However, I draw the line at religious jerks trying to pass off their lies and bullshit as science. Religious beliefs are NOT science and it never will be.
my mum is christian and my dad athiest, i went to a christian school (it was just one of the best around) and i am now an athiest - I was never baptised or anything and i was shown the different belief systems but was allowed to choose - good choice :)
That muslim guy in the interview tried to slink of Dawkins question first, but thanks to the muslims lower-ranked human being *choufh* the girl helped a bit later, he finally had to say death. Applause to Richard Dawkins!
Teaching kids that sky daddy exists without one speck of evidence, is simply child abuse. We teach our children not to lie but then practice extreme hypocrisy in telling them that this supernatural being watches everything you do, knows what you are doing, saying and thinking, knows what you will do next and will damn you to a nasty place if you disobey the rules. Once they get to school and learn about truth(like science teaches) they are conflicted and angry that they were lied to. It's abuse
alyssa0089, but you're also suggesting that parents should have the right to "enforce" any of thier beliefs upon thier children? I see children of 8 years old growming up with racists attitudes, purely because thier parents have those values. Is that correct too? It' like saying because a parent believes 100% in the BNP - it's fair game for them to bring thier children up as BNP members. It's ludicrous, and indicates (to me at least), a distinct lack or respect for the child.
There was a similar case recently in Canada of neo-Nazi parents who carved Swastikas on their children and taught them their racist propaganda.
It raises a lot of issues as to what one can teach one's child. I think many religions walk the line of what is acceptable and what isn't. Look at Fred Phelps and his anti-gay propaganda. How is that any different from neo-Nazis who say that Jews/blacks/immigrants are evil?
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I'm an atheist, but I diagree with Dawkins. If a religious person is certain that his/her religion is the true one, then it would only make sense that he/she would want to enforce that truth upon their children. If they waited for their children to decide for themselves, they would be in some sense admitting that their views might be incorrect, which would not make sense, given that they believe 100% that their religion is right.
That is the psychology of a religious person, but that does not mean that it is not wrong. If their religion is indeed correct they should let the child decide for themeless rather than forcing it upon them.
(Why has my comment been deleted? Because people didn't agree with me?)
Yes that is the psychology of a religious person. It makes complete sense that they'd tell their children God exists. 'Right' and 'wrong' are subjective, so it wasn't 'wrong' for them to tell their children God exists. That's all I'm saying.
Instead of thinking, why don't I just write "They're so stupid! There is no God!" and get +20 thumbs up.
I don't know why you got 7 thumbs down, what you said made sense, from the perspective of a religious person. However, indoctrination of children, into a religion, is somewhat immoral.
Okay thanks. To the parents it is not immoral, but it definatly does seem to me and to most people here that they shouldn't be doing it. So I'm not sure what is 'right.'
What makes me laugh is when he says apostasy doesnt happen in britain! so, basically, screw the islamic countries where it does happen! what a hypocrit
Richard owns. That's what happens when you keep putting conversational pressure on religious people. They will eventually concede the barbarism of religion. He exposed every television viewer there, and internet viewer, to the fact that the Koran teaches you should be murdered if you leave Islam. Now people can judge Islam for themselves.
I always fear that Dawkins is suddently going to f..k up in these situations.
Like asking the little girl about the penalty for apostasy in Islam... hahaha luckily he reconsidered and ask the muslim guy (who couldn't duck in time an had to respond HAHA).
That being said, Dawkins' the god delusion is the reason I declared my atheism.
The muslim character failed to see the connection between Sharia law in an Islamic country with regard to apostasy and the muslims in the UK ... the muslims in the UK want Sharia law and there are already cases of honour killing in the UK by muslim parents ... and it's always the killing of girls/women. What a surprise.. Next, death and more death. It is the muslim way.
This reminds me of Christopher Hitchens saying that he would dream of telling his children about his ideas on religion, that they have to make up their own minds
Dawkins, you are right on. Catholics teach that if one gives the child to the church for the first five years of their life, the child will remsin Catholic all their life. I was raised such. The good Chistians of the world have cured me of Christianity. D. Alexandr D'Maddalena
douglasmatley 3 weeks ago
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Dead-to-the-spirit deluded "God Delusion" author & blithering fool scientist goon Richard Dawkins another "leader" given 2 the profane masses is another useful idiot 4 Jesuit machinations
Jesuitical; pertaining to the Jesuits or their principals; designing; cunning; deceitful; prevaricating
The Jesuit Order completely altered the education system 2 suit their Evo-Hoax Agenda to discredit the Bible
Papal Rome cant have their Counter Reformation 2nd Dark Age DESPOTISM until Bible is destroyed
SpencerBenedict2nd 3 months ago
Once again I think Richard Dawkins was hit on the head what an idiot, let Dawkins teach your kid with his religious hating atheistic ideology oh yea thats a lot better than religion RIGHT!
glendaweil 3 months ago
@glendaweil he said teach kids every religion goods and bads not just good parts and than kids make their own decisions as to what they wish to believe in , he didnt say teach them religion is bad and that they should not be religious
ianul28 3 months ago
@ianul28 He said religion was wicked what are you hard of hearing. He has no right to tell parents what to teach there kids if thats what he wants to teach his kids thats fine but he needs to but out of other peoples business on how and what they teach there children.
glendaweil 3 months ago
@glendaweil he spoke his point of view ? i dont see anything wrong with that or i dont see how that teaches kids something bad , unlike religion he spoke his point of view didnt try to force people into believing the same thing as him , im pretty sure religios people are trying to force religios onto people thats why downtown everycity you hear praise jesus or allah will save you and not religious is wicked you shall do what richard dawkins says or you die, no thats religion
ianul28 3 months ago
@ianul28 First of all religion is not being forced on anybody relgious people are supposed to try to convert people but no one forces anyone into a religion that is baseless and ignorent, if I come up to you and say I want to talk about my saviour you have every right to say no thanks.
glendaweil 3 months ago
@glendaweil no but it is forcing when they do it everyday to everyone on the street saying they will end up in hell unless they accept god into their heart
ianul28 3 months ago
@ianul28 What world are you living in I hear nothing of the sort if you do not wish to participate ignore it if you are approached or hear it I ignore stupid things I hear from idiot atheist you can do the same.
glendaweil 3 months ago
@glendaweil go down town any big city you will see people saying join our saviour jesus christ who died for you , anyone on his side will go to heaven the rest will suffer forever in hell =.=
ianul28 3 months ago
@ianul28 People trying to help people what an outrage who are these people geez. Come on people have preached on street corners as long as there have been street corners and you say thats a bad thing well you are wrong but I expect nothing less from an ignorent atheist.
glendaweil 3 months ago
@glendaweil exactly you think your helping people by putting nonesense in their mind and scaring them , thinking your religion is much better and anyone else beneath it will die in hell. If you saw athiests on the street saying religion is wrong we are here to help you see the right choice you would think exactly like i do right now. if you see people preach about a different god other than yours you would think it is outragous and wrong just like i think it is with every religion
ianul28 3 months ago
@ianul28 Look you idiot we have something called freedom in this country it mean you are free to think act or follow which ever religion or idiology you choose it is a choice you apparently have problems with people having there own choice about what they believe so maybe you would be more comfortable in a socialist country where freedoms are not so abundant so get a passport and haul ass good luck and farwell.
glendaweil 3 months ago
@glendaweil there is also freedom to not have to listen to dumbasses like u everyday in the morning to accept god in our hearts , i have also freedom to say that i believe religion is wicked and so does richard dawkins so you shouldn't be talking he has the freedom to do say what ever he wants and when did i say you have no freedom ? why do you keep switching the subject each time ? stick to one subject
ianul28 3 months ago
@ianul28 You have the freedom to express whatever idiotic bs you want, and unlike you I can follow more than one subject and discuss it at one time and you calling someone dumbass is rich try looking in the mirror and you will see what dumbass really looks like.
glendaweil 3 months ago
@glendaweil sorry i dont see any christians in the mirror lets say im the dumbass , explain how did moses get in an ark over 3000000 insects , animals etc , how did they survive after the flood with no plants since it would take a long time to survive and how in hell did they manage to repopulate the whole world back to about 6 billion people from 2 persons and be different races =.= tell me the smart answer for that question =.= since im the dumbass and my dumbass answer is never happened
ianul28 3 months ago
@ianul28 Well progress finally acceptance of your condition is the first step.
glendaweil 3 months ago
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@glendaweil you still did not answer my question =.=
ianul28 3 months ago
@glendaweil soo have you thought of an answer yet its been 4 days and you still got nothing
ianul28 3 months ago
He's spot on, as usual, but how do you get through to these people?
123barriejohn 4 months ago
I agree with dawkins hear shut up christians muslims he's totally right.
I'm a christian brought up by christians but trust me it's not because i;m in that family that i'm a christian they gave me total freedom for what i wanted to choose JESUS !:)
07cartlidgej 5 months ago
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And THAT, is all we needed to hear.
Applemangh 6 months ago
let's free the Islamic women .. there must be some damn fine looking moisties under those hoods
JCmultiverse 7 months ago
this shit is edited
cruisemissle2012 7 months ago
What about pre-Christian English culture and Royals? There is a very rich pre-Chrsitian culture that needs to be taken into account instead of just the exclusively sell-out historic point of view.
jaymthegenius 7 months ago
U don't need faith to teach humanity, actually it harms it!
taegello 8 months ago
@thatamazinggeek Another one! You're getting better!
solpapisolmook 8 months ago
@thatamazinggeek Congratulations on having used proper spelling and grammar in your last comment.
solpapisolmook 8 months ago
@thatamazinggeek Which is ironic, seeing as how there is no need for the apostrophe you placed in "idiots."
Idiot.
solpapisolmook 8 months ago
@thatamazinggeek
I can agree on that.
Fastlan3 8 months ago
@thatamazinggeek I am talking about objective morality. Anyone can decide what they think is moral, but to suppose there are objective moral values assumes a higher power that imposes them on us. Christians don't surrender moral judgment to a deity. It is the deity that defines morality. From an evolutionary point of view, how is our composition of matter more important than a rock, plant, or animal? Why should destroying a human be any worse than destroying a plant?
YHWHisSovereign 8 months ago
Dawkins, the great intellectual imbecile, calls teaching religion wicked, but what is he basing this on? He can be no means define wicked or good from the atheistic world view. Of course, I understand that in order for an atheist to exist in society they cannot take their beliefs seriously. I don't think I'll ever meet a consistent atheist.
YHWHisSovereign 8 months ago
@YHWHisSovereign idiot...
Hermoor 6 months ago
@YHWHisSovereign It might be difficult to wrap your head around morality without god, but there are billions of people who live great lives without god. Your inability to understand it does not have any bearing on its validity. To your specific point, Sam Harris (an atheist) doesn't even ascribe to subjective morality. Try watching one of his TED talks and then tell me atheists can't define wicked or good objectively. We don't need a god to know slavery is wrong (your god seems to favor it).
PointLarusso 3 months ago
@PointLarusso Are you in favor of enslaving animals in order to use them for food, transportation, or just simply as a pet? What principles do you use to say whether or not Hilter's morality was any better or worse than yours?
YHWHisSovereign 3 months ago
@YHWHisSovereign If you were honestly sincere about your question, I hope you follow through with my answer. In regards to using animals as food/transportation, I would recommend you watch "Peter Singer - the Genius of Darwkin, The Uncut Interviews". In regards to why Hitler's morality was worse than mine "Sam Harris - Why Science Can Determine Human Values." Both atheists, both on youtube, both answer your question, both free on youtube. Cheers.
PointLarusso 3 months ago
3:01 - Jay Lakhani only wore those glasses to take them off mid-sentence.
ambiamusic 8 months ago
Well its easy for Dawkins to argue against Muslim and Catholic faith considering they are just wrong. But if he would look into Christian Protestant Reformed Theology. And Dawkins might not even know he is advocating his own faith. I men this well educated man is foolish enough to say that we came from aliens.
MrFisher210 9 months ago
@MrFisher210 lol aliens...idiot.
Hermoor 6 months ago
Who is the chick talking at 7:00?
Skillbus 9 months ago
On the final point; It doesn't matter where you are on the globe. Killing is wrong and child abuse is wrong. Geography doesn't make it okay to kill your children.
TheCraich 10 months ago
"What is the penalty for apostasy!"
DEATH!
Christianity also has penalties, typical a form of exile not death, but lets not forget the threat of an eternity of torture in hell.
Dawkins was surely wrong, it is only that Christianity has become very liberal and forbidden to exercises many of the scriptural laws by the secular Constitution of America. As many unorthodox Christian which escaped religious prosecution in Europe, only to do the same to those which denied their beliefs in the Americas
Fastlan3 1 year ago
I love it when Richard Dawkins kicks the ass of that fucking ugly dirty islamic missionary by asking him " What is the penalty for apostasy ? What do you teach the children will happen to them if they give up their muslim faith ? " It is funny the islamic missionary notices that he is getting fucked up so he replies " Well, let's bring the debate back to Britain ". Dodging always works even in Islam !
ag36694 1 year ago 3
What is the penalty for apostrophe's...?
TungstenV 1 year ago 3
At 51 seconds. Thats a mean glare that girl is giving.
Winterwolf00 1 year ago
Dawkins owned the muslim dude with that apostasy comment.
TheAlphaPyro 1 year ago 6
Dawkins does'nt want Parents to have a say in what if any, Religion that child might accept.
Be warned Parents, Daffy Dick does'nt want you to raise your children as you see fit.
53dumey 1 year ago
That is how countries should solve theyr differences
mewsic156 1 year ago
I wonder if Dawkins would support raising a child in a gender neutral environment so that he or she isn't influenced by others as to which gender he/she should assume. Perhaps children should be kept separated from any possible influence that would taint their purity of mind until such age as they can successfully defend that purity against the encroachment of others. Or does Dawkins just hate religion with the fervor of a fundamentalist?
motomambo 1 year ago
@motomambo You are an idiot. Dawkins is against pigeonholing children into your own religion before they are able to know what you are getting them into.
ThePsychoReturns 1 year ago
@motomambo
That's a ridiculous suggestion. Those two things are nothing alike.
Sirstingray 1 year ago
@Sirstingray Well if gender roles are imposed on children by their parents and society then are we not abusing children by forcing them to adopt roles they didn't choose and may not be suitable for?
motomambo 1 year ago
@motomambo
Well gender roles aren't as imposed, they are more reinforced I would say, seems that gender differences are innate, natural and necessary.
And in fact you are highlighting a good point... You should tell kids: "you are a boy" or "you are a girl". You shouldn't however tell them "you can't act like that because you are a boy". Enforcing your beliefs on how boys should behave is the same as enforcing your religious beliefs on a child.
Sirstingray 1 year ago
@motomambo He'd rather children of muslims weren't told they'd be hunted down and murdered for leaving islam. or if they speak ill of mohammed (piss be upon him).
if he did hate religion- which he does- what has that to do with the validity of his statements?
fragman08 1 year ago 3
Dawkins owns once again... these slimey religous leaders have nothing backing their claims but empty rehtoric.
ChoasTheory2000 1 year ago 11
You constantly hear our leaders telling us that Islam is a religion of peace and there you have it. They force their children to join there religion and kill them if they ever leave. The Quran also taches they can not mix with non Muslims or take them as friends. They are training there children to hate us.
WillShakespeare2007 1 year ago
Notice how the muslims did not want to answer the question of what is the penalty for leaving the religion.
Religion is based on control and manipulation as well as threats of death / torture.
I honestly feel the only reason Christians are not torturing people like they did during the inquistions is the United States was not founded on Christianity or any religion.
When religion runs government slavery and torture are common place.
MrGoodNKinky 1 year ago
islam is worth faith...on second place is christianity and judaism...the girls in the audience are sick...and so is that muslim fool...
Hermoor 1 year ago
islam is the ultimate evil
diabloblanco0819 1 year ago
Nailed him right to the cross. So to speak. :D
Elvisdogg 1 year ago
Religious schools? Damn talk about oxymoron.
HybridD91 1 year ago 3
Muslims are subhuman. A religion of fathers who murder their own daughters and women regarded as livestock. Allowing their filthy kind to live in the West was a sore mistake. Honour killings have happened in the UK, Canada, and the US. Capital punishment ror apostacy is NOT limited to islamic countries. It should be though. Lets exile these desert rats!
CanadiaNecro1 1 year ago
''What is the penalty for apostacy?'' - ''...Rather not answer that''
adamscott 1 year ago 4
that muslim dude needs a bullet in his head as do ALL that kill children or ANYONE just on the basis that they left the religion
patrickledford420 1 year ago 5
Once again, Richard Dawkins hits the nail on the head.
gir908922 1 year ago 24
Sweden is prodominantly Atheist,
correct?
They have some of the highest test scores out of any country in the world,
does this say anything?
Hah!
TheTrentle 1 year ago 8
@TheTrentle and they are really safe i mean the crime rate is lower but of course that applys to people beleiving evolution also
patrickledford420 1 year ago
I love how Mukadam asks the woman, in a sarcastic tone of course, whether or not the father who murdered his daughter because of a stupid Muslim religious thing attented a Muslim school. This is completely irrelevant, and she should've chosen to point that out. She was using an example of how women are degraded, not what goes on in Muslim schools. And yet, he fails to see the relevance in Dawkins' question, which he avoids answering for a good seven minutes. Total hypocrisy, of course.
AMadMick7 1 year ago 3
We need to bust down a few more doors into these muslim countries and clean up the place
Darklordabc 1 year ago
My whole life my parents raised me as a christian, I am and always was an atheist. Religion is torture for the logical.
slverfish 1 year ago 5
Dawkins: What is the penalty for leaving the muslim faith?
Dr Mukhardan: "If its an Islamic country, then the Shariah is very clear, apostasy is dealt with the death penalty....Whats the relevence between whats happens in an Islamic country and Great Britain? I fail to see the connection."
Islam is a religion of peace and Scientology is a religion of milk and cookies.
TurboDally 1 year ago 3
"Whats the relevence between whats happens in an Islamic country and Great Britain? I fail to see the connection."
He fails to see the connection? How about making sure that bullshit doesn't happen in this country?
Birdieupon 1 year ago 5
You can't debate stupid.
Richard Dawkins is the man.
ChiNoRondoX 1 year ago 4
09:30 "What's the relevance... I fail to see the connection"
The relevance, my friend, is that you're Muslim, and so you probably condone Sharia Law (If you don't, why the hell are you a member of Islam?). Islam is growing in the UK, I don't want to find out what happens to this country when there're mad men with horrific ideals roaming around the place. Don't get me wrong, there already are horrible people here, but Muslim's are not needed here. I want rid of Islam. Now.
sfurner 1 year ago 4
Let's all get organized and make this a reality.
ChiNoRondoX 1 year ago
@grunn45
oh please, the boy who cried wolf is a much greater source of morals. bet she didnt read you sermon on the mount
types10000 1 year ago
It is better to don't teach children religion, only science, and let them choose when they are older. I was not contaminated by any religion as I grew :)
superCatia 2 years ago 8
@superCatia you're lucky, it took me years to detatch the burden of guilt of sin for example. Religion is brainwashing that I unfortunately was part of when I was a child thanks to my parents.
Pyroman162 2 years ago 2
Yes, I have always felt lucky. Religion is anti-life, it is good that you have liberated yourself. Just take the good things with you, and leave the bad behind.
superCatia 2 years ago 2
@superCatia "religion is anti-life" I couldn't agree more. They focus so much on the after life that this life is seemingly meaningless. They waste their once chance, their one opportunity to have a happy successful life on their "God." Suppressing themselves emotionally, feeling guilty about their alleged sins. Its a shame really, a psychological ball and chain that I am glad to be rid of.
Pyroman162 2 years ago 4
@Pyroman162 i totally agree, i have been out of religion for years now but that guilt still creeps in. its terrible they brainwash people so bad it just sticks with you for years.
kingjosh87 1 year ago
What's more wicked--no morlas, or moals that the parents think is best. Chilldren CAN"T work it out, they are too young. you have to teach them.
DryBONESreborn 2 years ago
9:21 OWNED
jpc08109 2 years ago
2:50 PWNED
vava54own 2 years ago
i grew up in a religious school, and was a deception, lucky me my mother gave me other introduce me with the world of DESMOND MORRIS: the naked ape. i could't believe in those stupid nuns and their lies my pther friends and i saw them having sex with the driver or the gardener,people haven't reach the age of reason. is full of dogma religion drugs t.v.media consumerism, and garbage.where is the people's faith?if they breaktheir own morals and laws.bunch of lies religion. there is no proof of god
ilikeyouallot 2 years ago
Wow. If you leave the Muslim faith the penalty is DEATH.
What does that say about the close-mindedness of religion?
drche420 2 years ago 3
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i wouldn't raise my children to reject all faith and become a confused and wicked like Dawkins. Richard is eloquent i appreciate that but he is too blunt too understand the sincerity of personal faith and values of people. He may propagate the idea of "god delusion" but he cant prove the non-existence of God either.
danzinde 2 years ago
Proving the non-existance of something is an impossibility. The burden of proof is on the people asserting the claim. Religious people have to prove the existance of god; until existance is proven, I will remain a person who lacks belief in a diety.
KyleMc2009 2 years ago 6
He can't prove the non-existence of God. What a load of bullshit. If that is your argument, you should not raise a children.
yourhighest 2 years ago
well said
poopslogi 2 years ago
There are many things for which we can't prove non-existence. Immaterial goblins in my garden, Russels tea pot, FSM, Unicorns, Yeti, Odin, Shiva, and any of the millions of other fantasies that have ever existed are all simularily unfalsifiable. That does NOT mean that we teach them as true. It means that we have no evidence for them and therefor must dismiss them as representative of the truth. For if you accept one thing with is without support, you must accept them all.
Peace
AtheistEvolution 2 years ago 6
@AtheistEvolution
Well said. What religious peoples don't seem to understand is that all of their Gods are equally unfalsifiable and ridiculous.
drche420 2 years ago 4
True. VERY true and sad that religion holds people under such blinding sway.
Peace and happy holidays!
AtheistEvolution 2 years ago 4
There is one thing in common: God. People and Nations interpret God in different ways. And that is the reason why I say that No Religion Is Wrong. You, atheists, just don't understand that...
Airbus112 2 years ago
May be we understand , but it is just too stupid of an idea to accept.
cheburashka1326 2 years ago
Every religion is wrong. That's what you people just don't understand. Most religions have caused deaths at one time or another in history, and they spawn fundamentalists who take it too far. People and nations choose to interpret what they want, and that's a terrible thing because it allows them to do whatever they want as long as they slap a god's name in front of their intentions. Explain to me what makes my opinion wrong but your opinion about religion right.
AMadMick7 1 year ago 2
If Odin does not exist, then who brings you all the presies at Yule?
LiberdadeHedonista 2 years ago
True! Isn't that Odin who does that? Or is it Batman, or Frodo? Ugh it is hard keeping all the myths straight.
lol
Peace
AtheistEvolution 2 years ago
@danzinde
The burden of proof belongs to the one who claims something exist. See the teapot between Earth and Mars argument.
somewhatchewy 2 years ago 3
"confused and wicked like Dawkins."
How is Dawkins wicked? The fact that he gets his morals other than scripture? The fact that he questions what people believe?
"sincerity of personal faith and values of people."
I'm sure he understands it well :)
"he cant prove the non-existence of God either."
You can't prove the non-existance of Peter Pan, Odin, Krishna, the teapot oribiting Saturn.
TurboDally 2 years ago
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Dawkins at 4.45 come on now are you saying that you have a moral standard without being tolerant to your claim.... what has graven image got to do with it, I am sure you know the answer stop struggling with the truth.
PottersBass 2 years ago
parents should not have the right to put ridiculous beliefs that fly in the face of reality into their children's heads. That is indoctrination abuse!
It should be illegal to let people under the age of 18 into churches / religious schools
vinbuik 2 years ago 4
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PottersBass 2 years ago
read the god delusion
thebattleforX9 2 years ago
Can anybody help me, I want to deny religion. But God existence is very difficult for me to deny. I like the idea of there is no God and religion, and then I can do everything that I like. But then which one is absolute? I am confused. Shouldn't be there is a certainty. I feel like being rebellious only, without being honest to my intelligence.
hadynu 2 years ago
an objective human morality exists out there. It is up to rationalists to identify it and inform the world of it.
Living without rules, or principles, as a hedonist, has repercussions.
vinbuik 2 years ago 5
You can't do anything you like even if there is no god. There isn't punishment in afterlife, but you still have to face earthly consequences for your actions. Having said that, you have denounced god and religion every day of your life, but you probably just don't think about it this way. I will assume that you are Christian. If that is so, you have denied Islam every day of your life. So denying god isn't hard, as long as it isn't the god you were indoctrinated into initially.
stylovore 2 years ago 4
Maybe you should worry less about metaphysics and more about grammar and semantics.
LiberdadeHedonista 2 years ago
"Can anybody help me, I want to deny religion. But God existence is very difficult for me to deny. I like the idea of there is no God and religion, and then I can do everything that I like."
Its quite simple, invent a religion, and claim that god is speaking to you and supports your agenda/claims/lifestyle. If you are really lucky, and you get followers, you could get tax breaks!
TurboDally 2 years ago
"I fail to see the connection". Sure you do, you fucking LIAR!
Aaberg123 2 years ago
Wow. I loved loved LOVED when Dawkins asked about the consequences of apostasy and he didn't want to answer.
Stick it to him!!
jordanromaker 2 years ago
religion has its place in the world but anyone with half an ounce of common sense can see that the islamic faith is extremely backwards and more often than ignorant see the way the man dodges the question?
SterlingJd 2 years ago
islam is evil
Jtking3000 2 years ago 2
No it's not, it's just religion.
Christianity was just as bigoted and potentially violent when the the christian world was less secular.
MaxSafeheaD 2 years ago
all religion is evil but especially islam. in the words of geert wilders islam is retarded!
Jtking3000 2 years ago
Rubbish, religion is only as evil as it's followers. It can be equally a force for great good as it can for evil.
Ideally we would not need religion to organise and motivate people but .. well people are pretty fucking stupid.
In an ideal world of corse religion would not be desireable but with what we have I thnk the best we can hope for is a refinement.
After all if you strip away everything all you get is nihilism.
MaxSafeheaD 2 years ago
Evil is defined as anything immoral, or something harmful, hurtful, painful, disgusting etc. Calling religion evil is like called drugs evil.
Nashy119 2 years ago
or Domokun
MaxSafeheaD 2 years ago
just another example of how backwards and ignorant the islamic faith is if a child grows up and decides Islam is not for them they are to be killed? and they say people who beleieve otherwise are the infidels? wake up its the 21st century
SterlingJd 2 years ago
Just as people who turn their backs on "Jesus" burn for eternity in hell?
ezelouie 2 years ago
No it's not like that really. Ex-Christians do not believe in hell, Christians appreciate this and most importantly don't kill them.
Nashy119 2 years ago
How amusing - 2min10: "Until they are old enough to understand the issues, we shall tell them what to think."
Widgetas 2 years ago
The Muslim has it backwards: raising children is not a right, it is a responsibility. We don't let parents raise their kids to think incest is okay. We intercede if it turns out they're keeping their kids in cages or pooping on them. Kids aren't property over which you have rights; they are growing human beings for which you have responsibility, and nobody has the right to sew another person's mind shut with superstition and prejudice and psychosis.
johnclavis 2 years ago 37
Jesus followed the standard the Father laid before Him, this is Love. I say also that Jesus is alive to day and changing lives. I rather tell a child, that it is wrong because Jesus said so and why, than to say that it is wrong without direction.
PottersBass 2 years ago
Why don't you just say "X is wrong because it is selfish and harms innocent people"?
Harmonyww 2 years ago 3
Harmonyww Yes you are right " X " is wrong because it is selfish...etc.
And it is every parents responsibility to make there children aware. I believe we need all families to unit to work together and we need a force to unit us together. To have order we need order. And the only reference to this I have found in the bible (The Father Son and Holy spirit).
This is Love
PottersBass 2 years ago
No offense, but you're talking gibberish.
johnclavis 2 years ago 3
Read the standard God laid down. Read Deuteronomy. If you teach your child to do any of the things God command, I'm calling child services on you, seeing how absolutely wicked God is.
Aaberg123 2 years ago
You seem to be lose in the old testimony teach your children about Jesus. God sent His Son into the world not to condemn the world. The Old testimony is the path to the cross and is life. You missed the point I was making about Love between the Father & Son. Plus read Isaiah & other scriptures many stating the coming of Christ. And U missed the point how God delivered many from the hands of the enemies (& how wicked they are). I say this when I died I will face a God who is real not a wimp.
PottersBass 2 years ago
You are funny there was the OLD book and then along came some guy who created the NEW. SO GOD EVOLVED! Odd that we are supposedly gods children and yet god made a son. WOW guess that means god made a mistake and therefore is certainly not perfect. Jesus is definately the downfall of christian beliefs, it contradicts itself and proves god with your belief is not perfect.
Funmakinmoney 2 years ago
Yes we are all children of God if you read the bible we all inherit a share of the Kingdom through what Jesus did for us. And to say God created a Son and to think who are we( children of God) that sounds contradictory, looking into it the way your seeing it "yes" it would , rather look with the truth (Eyes of God) we all fall short of God's glory Jesus did not. God is a God of order.
PottersBass 2 years ago
god is a societal control mechanism for savage, irrational people.
vinbuik 2 years ago 5
Was Jesus a vegetarian?
aiyic 2 years ago
Depends if you count fish, I suppose.
Widgetas 2 years ago
*I* do. But no need to, to make the point. My vegetarian question was to PottersBass, who is wrong in stating that Jesus followed the 'standard' of the Father before him. Jesus is a clear improvement on the 'old man', but still has no qualms about defenseless animals dying so he can stuff his beardy face.
I'm not preaching that people become vegetarians, I'm merely stating that I have a better moral compass than the golden child. And I got that from me, myself and I - not bible required.
aiyic 2 years ago
Not wrong. In a similar way, Mohammed ain't the best person to follow.
Widgetas 2 years ago
Absolutely. Look at his followers!
aiyic 2 years ago
The Bible states clearly that the children will walk with the tigers and the cattle and lions etc will eat together as before the flood.
PottersBass 2 years ago
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MaxSafeheaD 2 years ago
good question!
MaxSafeheaD 2 years ago
Children need examples not critics......
PottersBass 2 years ago
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PottersBass 2 years ago
Hey a very important piece got cut out at 2:58
BaileysBeads 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
"The God Debate" is on my channel.
atheistfriends 2 years ago
Yeah, with the Greeks, a girl who fooled around could just say, "Uh, yeah...mom, dad? I was walking to get water the other day, and Zeus appeared as a glowing orb. Anyway, long story short--I'm pregnant."
wingedhorses 2 years ago
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Tisk Tisk Dawkins. You don't believe that there is truly such a thing as "wicked".
chriswnorris7 2 years ago
I have three children. I'm an atheist and my husband is a christian. I want my children to make their own decisions about what they want to believe. I've told them that. However, I draw the line at religious jerks trying to pass off their lies and bullshit as science. Religious beliefs are NOT science and it never will be.
wingedhorses 2 years ago
my mum is christian and my dad athiest, i went to a christian school (it was just one of the best around) and i am now an athiest - I was never baptised or anything and i was shown the different belief systems but was allowed to choose - good choice :)
procrastinating2007 2 years ago
That muslim guy in the interview tried to slink of Dawkins question first, but thanks to the muslims lower-ranked human being *choufh* the girl helped a bit later, he finally had to say death. Applause to Richard Dawkins!
TheFightingEgg 2 years ago 9
Teaching kids that sky daddy exists without one speck of evidence, is simply child abuse. We teach our children not to lie but then practice extreme hypocrisy in telling them that this supernatural being watches everything you do, knows what you are doing, saying and thinking, knows what you will do next and will damn you to a nasty place if you disobey the rules. Once they get to school and learn about truth(like science teaches) they are conflicted and angry that they were lied to. It's abuse
saxmanchiro 2 years ago 2
good video. but there were some parts cut out, got the complete version?
region1111 2 years ago
alyssa0089, but you're also suggesting that parents should have the right to "enforce" any of thier beliefs upon thier children? I see children of 8 years old growming up with racists attitudes, purely because thier parents have those values. Is that correct too? It' like saying because a parent believes 100% in the BNP - it's fair game for them to bring thier children up as BNP members. It's ludicrous, and indicates (to me at least), a distinct lack or respect for the child.
martinjamesdaley 2 years ago 5
There was a similar case recently in Canada of neo-Nazi parents who carved Swastikas on their children and taught them their racist propaganda.
It raises a lot of issues as to what one can teach one's child. I think many religions walk the line of what is acceptable and what isn't. Look at Fred Phelps and his anti-gay propaganda. How is that any different from neo-Nazis who say that Jews/blacks/immigrants are evil?
Narwal88 2 years ago
It might be objectivelly wrong to if you believe in God, and think that there is such a thing as objective write and wrong, which you apparently do.
alyssa0089 2 years ago
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I'm an atheist, but I diagree with Dawkins. If a religious person is certain that his/her religion is the true one, then it would only make sense that he/she would want to enforce that truth upon their children. If they waited for their children to decide for themselves, they would be in some sense admitting that their views might be incorrect, which would not make sense, given that they believe 100% that their religion is right.
alyssa0089 2 years ago
Believing you are 100% right about anything is a sign of insanity.
stratelite 2 years ago 6
That is the psychology of a religious person, but that does not mean that it is not wrong. If their religion is indeed correct they should let the child decide for themeless rather than forcing it upon them.
pookiehohn 2 years ago
(Why has my comment been deleted? Because people didn't agree with me?)
Yes that is the psychology of a religious person. It makes complete sense that they'd tell their children God exists. 'Right' and 'wrong' are subjective, so it wasn't 'wrong' for them to tell their children God exists. That's all I'm saying.
Instead of thinking, why don't I just write "They're so stupid! There is no God!" and get +20 thumbs up.
alyssa0089 2 years ago
I don't know why you got 7 thumbs down, what you said made sense, from the perspective of a religious person. However, indoctrination of children, into a religion, is somewhat immoral.
pookiehohn 2 years ago
Okay thanks. To the parents it is not immoral, but it definatly does seem to me and to most people here that they shouldn't be doing it. So I'm not sure what is 'right.'
alyssa0089 2 years ago
those faith schools got reemed, dodging questions chatting shite.
IrishMarc1 2 years ago
If she is suppose to always have the vale on, and their god made them, why didn't their god create women with vales from birth?
JupiterRoom 2 years ago 9
Although important for debate to continue, I must say that they never seem to establish anything. No one leaves with a different viewpoint.
But I applaud Richard Dawkins for puting up with this mess.
kwolf71 2 years ago 8
What makes me laugh is when he says apostasy doesnt happen in britain! so, basically, screw the islamic countries where it does happen! what a hypocrit
klawl1 2 years ago 4
That guy is straight evil.
strattgatt 2 years ago
Richard owns. That's what happens when you keep putting conversational pressure on religious people. They will eventually concede the barbarism of religion. He exposed every television viewer there, and internet viewer, to the fact that the Koran teaches you should be murdered if you leave Islam. Now people can judge Islam for themselves.
ArgoSG 2 years ago 6
This is really great, I've wanted to see Richard at the center of a circle of believers duking it out forever.
yomomtubes2 2 years ago 5
I always fear that Dawkins is suddently going to f..k up in these situations.
Like asking the little girl about the penalty for apostasy in Islam... hahaha luckily he reconsidered and ask the muslim guy (who couldn't duck in time an had to respond HAHA).
That being said, Dawkins' the god delusion is the reason I declared my atheism.
cthulhex 2 years ago 3
The muslim character failed to see the connection between Sharia law in an Islamic country with regard to apostasy and the muslims in the UK ... the muslims in the UK want Sharia law and there are already cases of honour killing in the UK by muslim parents ... and it's always the killing of girls/women. What a surprise.. Next, death and more death. It is the muslim way.
Wake up UK!!!
draagon66 2 years ago 9
he is so right...i am an atheist, i wouldnt tell my kids to be atheists..its up to them pick what they want to do...the muslim is an idiot...
tinacharlieok 2 years ago 8
This reminds me of Christopher Hitchens saying that he would dream of telling his children about his ideas on religion, that they have to make up their own minds
cthulhex 2 years ago 2
this is what i call "self-exposed". im especially pointing in the direction of the muslim uncle...
pikechris1 2 years ago