I cannot figure why they runied the Steve Andropolus character. He was the show's central character then he turned into a loser and Craig became the hero.
@jvarela965 Without him Betsy was adrift and eventually the youngest Stewarts were reduced to just Emily. But there was definitely room for Craig & Steve to be rivals for years like Kim & Susan or Bob & John.
@Oakdalian I imagine Frank Runyon must have had a falling out with the show's producers. Usually when something like this happens that is the reason. Case in point Genie Francis.
Watching this just points out how much of a travesty it was that they did not ask Martha Byrne back to finish out LIly's time on the show... I give Noelle Beck so much credit for offering to step down but it's a shame Martha was not there when Lily and Holden talked about the day they met and Jon Hensley started sobbing. Lily and Holden were my favorite couple on the show and next to Luke were the ones I was the most invested in.
The Finale aired today. God I wish Martha had been there. It was so sad to see Holden w/that new Lily :( They'll never be another storyline like this one. What happened to all the good writers?
wow, i rememeber this sooooooooooooo well! Was mucho impressed with martha, she really pulled me into this series. Was hooked from this time on. Loved margo, and Lucinda, and CRAIG AND Sierra. And Caseyyyyyyyyyyyy! God, ATWT was sooo good back then!
OMG I remember all these characters...and, yes, Craig's mom was the original Cougar on ATWT because of her way younger lover, Casey....I love it...Ooo I hope soap nets picks it up and shows it over again...i would to see it again from the beginning or as far back as I can remember lol
I remember the writers soon after rewriting Snyder family history to make it okay for Lily and Holden to happen. And for Lily not be have parents who are first cousins. Because Josh Snyder (Rod Landry) and Ava Snyder were her parents, they had to make them not be blood related. So Josh (Rod) reminded a Snyder cousin and Iva turned out to adopted.
Because the woman was hysterical, and it was all her fault. She jumped to the conclusion that Lilly was being attacked and it was just funny. Over acting on LB's part if you ask me.
Lily (Martha Byrnes) was A fucking good actress. Too bad she ain't part of this anymore!!
Wow. But I was wondering... now she did found out about her adoption... How come they don't talk about her twin sisters. I mean, Iva was rapped and had 2 girls right? Lily and Rose! Where is she in this?
Lisa Brown was a big loss too, if this episode is any indication. She rips your heart out, stomps all over it and leaves you hoping she'll do it again.
Thanks SO much for uploading this videos! I was wondering, do you have the video that Lily founds out that Josh raped Iva? I mean, she founds out they are her parents in this video, but did she found out about the rape then too? If so, I must have missed it!
Actually that bit of news would come out and Lily would find out while she was in Montana. Lily would also find out that Iva was adopted at the same time, I think Holden told her, so Lily still would know it would be okay to pursue a relationship with Holden instead of having it be an uncle/niece relationship.
Seriously if this is what was on before I was born ('89), the talent pool has seriously fallen. I mean I love atwt today because I didn't even know it was this good back then. Please writers, review what you write because we need to see more of this!! And please give Martha Byrne whatever she wants in order to stay.
It was pretty amazing from 1985-1993 when it was written by Doug Marland. I used to run home from school to watch it and something major happened every day.
Could you PLEASE, PLEASE (yes, I am begging) add "William Fichtner" (Josh) to the tags (part 1, 2 and 7)? There are so many people here dying to see him in those scenes and simply can't find it!
Superb acting on all parts !
gralou1000 7 months ago
I cannot figure why they runied the Steve Andropolus character. He was the show's central character then he turned into a loser and Craig became the hero.
jvarela965 1 year ago
@jvarela965 Without him Betsy was adrift and eventually the youngest Stewarts were reduced to just Emily. But there was definitely room for Craig & Steve to be rivals for years like Kim & Susan or Bob & John.
Oakdalian 1 year ago
@Oakdalian I imagine Frank Runyon must have had a falling out with the show's producers. Usually when something like this happens that is the reason. Case in point Genie Francis.
jvarela965 1 year ago
Watching this just points out how much of a travesty it was that they did not ask Martha Byrne back to finish out LIly's time on the show... I give Noelle Beck so much credit for offering to step down but it's a shame Martha was not there when Lily and Holden talked about the day they met and Jon Hensley started sobbing. Lily and Holden were my favorite couple on the show and next to Luke were the ones I was the most invested in.
jaxduckie 1 year ago
The Finale aired today. God I wish Martha had been there. It was so sad to see Holden w/that new Lily :( They'll never be another storyline like this one. What happened to all the good writers?
daytimesdramaqueen 1 year ago
Oh look. Its Nora Buchanan.
EmmieClassix 1 year ago
wow, i rememeber this sooooooooooooo well! Was mucho impressed with martha, she really pulled me into this series. Was hooked from this time on. Loved margo, and Lucinda, and CRAIG AND Sierra. And Caseyyyyyyyyyyyy! God, ATWT was sooo good back then!
dutchnukelover 1 year ago
Or I thought she had.
METerrell 1 year ago
OMG I remember all these characters...and, yes, Craig's mom was the original Cougar on ATWT because of her way younger lover, Casey....I love it...Ooo I hope soap nets picks it up and shows it over again...i would to see it again from the beginning or as far back as I can remember lol
alexanderdiaz1 1 year ago
@alexanderdiaz1 SoapNet? Not in this lifetime.
Oakdalian 1 year ago
I remember the writers soon after rewriting Snyder family history to make it okay for Lily and Holden to happen. And for Lily not be have parents who are first cousins. Because Josh Snyder (Rod Landry) and Ava Snyder were her parents, they had to make them not be blood related. So Josh (Rod) reminded a Snyder cousin and Iva turned out to adopted.
Richieygrl 1 year ago
You knew eachother, you didn't know her Josh you raped her
Rain89Sweed 2 years ago
lol @ Iva Crying LOL!!!
wantsvictory 3 years ago
Why?
Oakdalian 3 years ago
Because the woman was hysterical, and it was all her fault. She jumped to the conclusion that Lilly was being attacked and it was just funny. Over acting on LB's part if you ask me.
wantsvictory 3 years ago
Lily (Martha Byrnes) was A fucking good actress. Too bad she ain't part of this anymore!!
Wow. But I was wondering... now she did found out about her adoption... How come they don't talk about her twin sisters. I mean, Iva was rapped and had 2 girls right? Lily and Rose! Where is she in this?
benefit1984 3 years ago 3
Rose was created by a different writer years later. Nobody knew about her until Lily found her in Atlantic City.
Oakdalian 3 years ago 4
I'm your father??lol oh my fitchner!! XD
akghddl 3 years ago
LOL Lily sure overacts here lol.
WCWite 3 years ago 2
At 6:15 when she pulls her hair back she looks just like Kristen Alderson who plays starr on OLTL
Mzbball 3 years ago
jesus martha byrne really knows how to act!
She was my favourite atwt actress anyway, but after this clip.. wow, she's so good!
such a pity she left!
elinedejong26 3 years ago 10
Lisa Brown was a big loss too, if this episode is any indication. She rips your heart out, stomps all over it and leaves you hoping she'll do it again.
Oakdalian 3 years ago
@elinedejong26 Best ever!!!!!!!!
DVROFFMAN 1 year ago
Thanks SO much for uploading this videos! I was wondering, do you have the video that Lily founds out that Josh raped Iva? I mean, she founds out they are her parents in this video, but did she found out about the rape then too? If so, I must have missed it!
JasonsLea 3 years ago
The rape was explained later. I posted a video from that autumn when Lily and Iva discuss it, so it must have happened during the nest few months.
Oakdalian 3 years ago
Actually that bit of news would come out and Lily would find out while she was in Montana. Lily would also find out that Iva was adopted at the same time, I think Holden told her, so Lily still would know it would be okay to pursue a relationship with Holden instead of having it be an uncle/niece relationship.
Yesimustbestupid2 3 years ago
Seriously if this is what was on before I was born ('89), the talent pool has seriously fallen. I mean I love atwt today because I didn't even know it was this good back then. Please writers, review what you write because we need to see more of this!! And please give Martha Byrne whatever she wants in order to stay.
NukeLoah 3 years ago
It was pretty amazing from 1985-1993 when it was written by Doug Marland. I used to run home from school to watch it and something major happened every day.
InfoEd 3 years ago 2
Better acting than the soaps now
hianda 4 years ago
And more specifically, better WRITING.
allychick6677 2 years ago
For his first gig, Fichtner was really very good
He's one of the most underrated actors today, along with Peter Gallagher and Bruce Greenwood
krystlerita 4 years ago 8
i sooo totally agree with tamaryna07.. i will beg too i really wanna see more of him!!!
michelle1321 4 years ago 2
OMG. Great video. :D
Could you PLEASE, PLEASE (yes, I am begging) add "William Fichtner" (Josh) to the tags (part 1, 2 and 7)? There are so many people here dying to see him in those scenes and simply can't find it!
tamaryna07 4 years ago
That's a great idea. I forgot that he was successful too, and not just Julianne Moore.
Oakdalian 4 years ago
Thank you.
tamaryna07 4 years ago
is it me or is Josh/Rod laughing in the background when Lily tells Iva "don't touch me"?(6:25)
JBREN215 4 years ago
It looked like he was about to laugh. I think Martha Byrne hammed it up toward the end, but he should have stayed in character.
Oakdalian 4 years ago