@blackadam06 I SEE NOTHING BAD ABOUT HIS SEASONAL PRODUCTION! KOBES BEEN THE BEST PLAYER (EVERY)) YEAR SINCE THE 4TH QTR OF 2000! PLUS YOU HAVE TO BE CONSISTANTLY HAVING PRODUCTION TO HAVE ALMOST EVERY SCORING CATERGORY OF ALL THE GREAT LAKERS PLAYERS! ((SO WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT))? EVEN AFTER 16 YEARS HE STILL LEADS THE LEAGUE IN SCORING AFTER 20 GAMES! TWO BLOCKS LAST NIGHT AND 35 PT'S! AND HIS GAMES REFLECT'S HIS GREATNESS AND WE CAN SEE THEM! JORDAN IS A PAPER GOAT! PERIOD!
Not if your judging him on his own merit, but this is a comparison to MJ and with that being said, his seasonal production falls WOEFULLY SHORT when measured against what #23 did...especially in the playoffs.
"KOBES BEEN THE BEST PLAYER (EVERY)) YEAR SINCE THE 4TH QTR OF 2000!"
That's a lie LOL!!
"EVEN AFTER 16 YEARS HE STILL LEADS THE LEAGUE IN SCORING"
He's only done it TWICE & the season isn't over yet fool...SMH
@blackadam06 did u do your google search? tell me what did google show u? LOL. stupid homer. draft class 92 was shaq not 93. lets see how well u know your hero, what draft class is your hero michael jordan? and which draft class is the best ever?
"Kobe is on pace to [break] John Havlicek's [record] for [most missed shots] in a [career] by early 2014, according to John Hollinger at ESPN. There's a [97%] chance of him setting the mark which essentially means that [barring injury], he'll [hold the record]. His [current] rate is [866 misses a season], which puts him only 2,204 misses short of the record."
-- E. Carchia: "Kobe to Break The Record For Most Missed Shots in a Career"; Jan 20, 2011
@blackadam06 thats all u guys can talk about. kobe being a volume shooter. i agree compared to jordan he is. but jordan did his thing vs mediocre competition.
"thats all u guys can talk about. kobe being a volume shooter"
Because it exposes in GREAT DETAIL "HOW" he accomplishes his offensive feats.
If U took 2 snipers & compared how many kills they get per 10 tries and U see that Sniper A gets 1 kill per 1-2 shots, whereas it takes Sniper B 6-7 shots just to do the same thing, would U continuously claim that he's "as good" as Sniper A?
No!!
Why do U kobe homers have such a hard time accepting the reality of the situation?!!
@blackadam06 great detail? no theyre not the same. just because they play the same position dont mean they have the same game.shaq and hakeem r both centers. but theyre offense are not the same type. hkeem shot a career .512 fg while shaq has a .582fg. do u want me to define their respective games to u? why the other shoots at a higher percentage?
@bruc3b1tch When you get done talking to yourself and finish your eyeliner.....go look up the general consensus on the GOAT player in the NBA, and let me know what you find, LOL!!!!!!!!!
ANALYST SAID KOBE FAILED TO SHOW UP! THAT'S WHAT I MEAN BY STUPID & NOT KNOWING THE GAME! SOME ANALYST SAID LEBRON WAS BETTER THAN JORDAN & HE PLAYED WITH HIM, MANY SAID LEBRON WAS BETTER THAN KOBE, MANY SAY MAGIC IS GREATEST LAKER, & FROM MY FACTUAL POST BELOW ABOUT KOBE IN THE 4TH QTR OF GAME SEVEN & HIM SAYING KOBE DIDN'T EVEN SHOW UP MAKES HIM ON OF THE STUPIDEST ANALYST EVER, WORST THAN BARKLEY ONE WEEK SAID KOBE WAS TOP TEN EVER THEN THE NEXT TOP 5! THE ANALYST NOW SAY KB TOP 7 NOW! PD!
I FIGURED YOU WERE SMART ENOUGH TO GET OUT OF THAT ONE! BUT I'M WATCHING KOBE BUST UP THE BUCKS END OD THE 1ST QTR KOBE 6 MORE POINT'S CLOSER TO THE (((TAKEOVER)) OF JORDANS CAREER PT TOTAL! PERIOD!
ESPN analyst: "do you think kobe should've won finals MVP?"
Bill Plashcke: "No! I'm still trying to figure out who voted for that. Absolutely not! Pau Gasol showed that he was the [heart & soul] of [that team] last night. Kobe didn't even [show up]. Just because a guy scores the most points [shouldn't] make him the MVP. They won [in spite of] kobe bryant. Pau had [1 bad game] in the series."
/watch?v=UlotKqzsUjg
It took kobe 24 FGA's just avg 28ppg that series LOL!!
@tiger1649 Yeah a bunch of layins, jumpers, FT's etc... etc....BORING! Where was this GOAT range you speak of. All I saw was 1-5 from the 3-point line. Oh yeah, Lakers lost by double digits, so don't even talk about this game since it's an asterick game by your standards
"Both have a [good] shooting touch. Some people say Kobe is a better shooter, but I don't know if Kobe is a [better shooter] than Michael was [at his best]."
-- Tex Winter: "Tex Winter Compares Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan"; True Hoop, Mar 29, 2007
"KOBES RANKED 7TH THIS YEAR"
So what?
Why do U ALWAYS try to make the comparison about a season or a game or 2?
@MegaSplash1 NOW YOU SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WATCHING FROM THE OUTSIDE! SEE HOW THEY SOUND IN THESE (((((LAST 2 PAGES)))) OF POST! I KNOW YOU HAVE TO SUPPORT THEM BUT I JUST WANTED YOU TO SEE HOW PREPARED YOU HAVE TO BE TO CHALLENGE ME ! BUT I TRULY ADMIRE YOUR COURAGE! LOL! PERIOD
@blackadam06 WHAT I EXPECTED YOU TO SAY, BUT I KNOW YOU ARE INTELLEGENT BECAUSE I SEEN YOUR POST! BUT IN THIS DEBATE YOU CAN'T WIN BECAUSE STAT'S ARE NOT THE DETERMINING FACTOR! IT'S WHAT WE CAN SEE AND YOU AND I KNOW BY NOW INSIDE WHO'S THE BETTER PLAYER! I KNOW YOU CAN'T SAY KOBE BUT IT'S OKAY AS LONG AS THE DEBATES ARE SEEN BY OBJECTIVE NBA FANS! I'M ON MJ SITES NOW AND ONE MJ FAN SAID INSTEAD OF (DEBATING) HE WISH I WOULD DIE! IT' HURTS HIM THAT MUCH! I GET A LOT OF CURSING! PD
@bwink23 SO WHAT JORDAN IS STILL ASSUMED AS THE GOAT NOW? MAGIC WAS GOAT UNTIL 1990 AND CLEARLY JORDAN WAS A BETTER PLAYER IN 1986, 87,89 & 90! PLUS JORDAN HAD THE BETTER STAT'S AND JUST LIKE MAGIC WHEN HE RETIRED IT WENT TO JORDAN, AND THE SAME WILL HAPPEN TO JORDAN WITH KOBE BECAUSE KOBE WAS CLEARLY BETTER THAN JORDAN IN THIER PRIME AND THE VIDS SHOW IT! IT WILL BE A HUMBLING & SAD DAY FOR YOU WHEN 95% OF THE NET SAY KOBES THE GOAT! I WON'T FIND ANY OF YOU NOWHERE BEFORE THAT! PERIOD!
@sopa71479 TO SHOW YOU HOW STUPID AND HARD IT IS TO TELL THE TRUTH, THOSE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAY JORDAN IS THE GREATEST SAY MAGIC IS THE GREATEST LAKER! NOW HOW STUPID IS THAT? PERIOD!
If it were ALL about just "seeing" them play, kobe would STILL lose because guys like LBJ, V.C. & MJ's highlights ALONE puts him to shame..
We BOTH know your ((SEEING)) argument is bullsh*t, because if it were true, U wouldn't be consistently throwing out "12 3ptrs...81 pts...62 pts in 3 qtrs" every damn time when talkin' about kobe!
Those are called stats dummy!!
So how the hell can stats prove what kobe did in those games, but not prove what MJ consistently did in his career?!!
@blackadam06 LBJ, VC OR JORDAN'S ARCHIVE IS WEAK COMPARED TO KOBES, ALSO THOSE GAMES I ALWAYS MENTION ARE GREAT AND CAN BE SEEN AS THAT! WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO PUT UP HIS BAD GAMES! THEY ((((ALL))) HAVE PLENTY OF THOSE! PERIOD!
@sopa71479 stupid. stupid.stupid. :) ray allen is a batchmate of bryant. so he belongs to this era. ray allen played only two seasons against jordan (bulls on a uniform). bird is a SF magic is a PG. who did michael beat? how many sg from mj era made top 5 scoring 3 seasons in a row? who mitch rihmond? then who?
@bruc3b1tch a batchmate who beat him for a title and tied and broke the finals record for most 3 pointers? MJ was the one defending Magic for the majority of the finals
Name me superstar SG Kobe has faced in the Playoffs?
@sopa71479 yes ray allen beat kobe. but kobe beat allen too. btw the topic here is dot include allen to jordans weak ass competition. ok? jordans best competition were clyde and reggie miller. both are inferior to the likes of wade ai and tmac (not injured). miller is inferior to allen. he brokes reggies record. NO COMPETITION.
@bruc3b1tch MJ faced him in 12 games and was held to 16 ppg try again moron, funny how you dont want to include him because he kills your whole arguement
@blackadam06 yea so i guess kobe played two seasons vs jordan makes him a 90s player too. lol. and i bet u guys include dr as one of jordan greatest competition because jordan played against a prime 36yo julius erving. how desperate..and tmac played against jordan for 1 season. he was still on the bench learning the game. he a competition too? LOL a prime tmac lead the league in scoring. what did a prime drxler do?
@bruc3b1tch : OMG..yeah good comeback....scoring title or no scoring tile what's the difference still couldn't get out of the first round
speaking of scoring can anyone explain why kobe is leading the league in scoring & yet his team is 20th in offense & has gone 13 straight games without cracking 100 pts?
@imsljr420 do i have to explain erything to u? uh uh not this time aound. do some research yourself. damn u jordan fags. one said i was making up a fact when i told him magic had the finals record for most TO. when he couldnt find it i had to link him to it. :( do some research before u argue.
You're the LAST person that needs to say that to anyone..
And speaking of finals records, why don't U refute the FACT that kobe's TWICE set the record for the most missed shots in a finals or that he's shot 40% or LOWER in 5 career finals..
How about U "try" to do that and then argue cakeboy...
Well that and the fact that MJ consistently put up BETTER #s in EVERY FACET of the game (save for reg season 3pt shooting...and that's barely) in the reg season, playoffs & finals, and did so in a much more physically demanding (and defensive) era..
@blackadam06 better #s vs who? all season long he played against who? tell me who r the great sg he faced. wade, tmac & ai> drexler > ray allen>reggie miller..
"better #s vs who? all season long he played against who?"
Why don't U go ask your pal KobeConfidence, seeing as how he posted thise GREAT #s of all of those great scoring perimeter players MJ competed against?
LOL!!
His comment ALONE owns your dumb implications LOL!!
@imsljr420 if thats the reason then the coach should make adjustments. maybe he should make kobe take only 15-18 fga per game. but thats the coachs decision. what can we (as fans) do? u think we can influence coach brown to do something like that?
@sopa71479 hilarious how bryant is so much better according to these guys because he has had more success in the postseason,but the same doesnt apply when they are pulling their moronic "competition" card.
@netcap001 no whats hilarious and sad, is that people say kobe is better than jordan....when kobe says himself "MJ is the greatest to play the game." I like them both the torch was passed from MJ to Kobe.
@1017Wildcat GOOGLE : KOBE ON BEING THE GREATEST EVER IT'S IMPOSSIBLE! I BET JORDAN AT ONE TIME SAID MAGIC WAS THE GREATEST! THE GREATEST PLAYER GAME ARCHIVE MAKES JORDANS GAMES LOOK LIKE CHILDS PLAY IN EVERY ERA THAT CAN BE PROVED ON VIDS! JORDANS A PAPER GOAT AND SECOND RATE WHEN IT COMES TO PERFORMANCES VS KOBE! BUT IF YOU CAN ((SHOW)) NOT ((READ)) JORDAN DOING ((ANYTHING)) BETTER THAN KOBE PROVE ME WRONG ON EITHER SIDE OF THE BALL! BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BE ((SAD))! PERIOD!
@tiger1649 watch the video kobe calls jordan a goat, what do you need performance for if Kobe says himself that Michael is the best player to play the game?
@1017Wildcat MY VID SHOWED KOBES LAST STATEMENT IN OCT! YOU ARE USING OLD QUOTES! HAVE YOU (((((SEEN MY CHANNEL SITE))))) YOU CAN GET A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT JORDANS ERA & COMPETITION WAS LIKE COMPARED TO KOBE'S! PERIOD!
@imsljr420 tiger likes it when a guy jacks up 3 after 3....Kobe's one of the worst 3-point shooters of all time..Only Antoine Walker carries a worse 3-point % than Kobe for guys with 4,000 career attempts.....FACT
and yes tiger, he has games where it hits many, and games where he misses many....that's what happens when your a glory hound chucking for spectacle instead of efficiency.
@bwink23 CHUCKING FOR A SPECTACLE? WHAT DO YOU THINK FANS WANT TO SEE? WHEN I GO TO A GAME I WANT TO SEE A EXTRAORDINARY SHOW! NO A AVG SHOW! SOMETHING SPECIAL I CAN REMEMBER THAT NOBODY EVER DID IN THE NBA! NOT A PLAYER WHO MAKES AROUND 30,000,000 A YEAR PASSING TO A 8 MILLION DOLLAR PLAYER! I WOULD WANT MY MONEY BACK IF DID THAT TO MUCH PERIOD!
"WHEN I GO TO A GAME I WANT TO SEE A EXTRAORDINARY SHOW!"
Lemme get this straight: you'd deem a guy as "better" because he had 1 or a few great moments/games/plays, than the guy who CONSISTENTLY gives U MUCH SUPERIOR play & production over the long haul?
Is that what you're saying?
40+ pt PLAYOFF games during title seasons from highest to lowest
They want to see CONSISTENTLY good/great play from their team, not just a FEW "shining moments"...SMH
It's no wonder U post the ignorant sh*t up on these boards...all U care about are highlights & spectacular (isolated) "plays", but not consistently GREAT basketball..SMH
@blackadam06 WHERE DID I SAY EXTRAORDINARY POINT'S? I SAID THINGS, LIKE WHILE SCORING THOSE POINT'S THEY WERE DONE IN SPECTACULAR FASHION! (((NOT LIKE)))) 1OO PT'S FROM PLAYERS 17 FEET AND IN, AND WILTS WAS PROBABLY 5 FEET BESIDES FT'S WHICH WAS A MILLION! A SHOW IS LIKE HOW KOBE PERFORMED VS JORDAN WHEN HE SCORED 42 IN THE FIRST HALF IN ((SPECTACULAR)) FASHION LIKE EVEN JORDAN HAS NEVER DONE OR SEEN! NOT JUST A BUNCH OF POINTS! CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? PERIOD!
Like I said, you're apparently dumb enough to deem 1 guy as "better", because he had 1 or a few great moments/games/plays, than the guy who CONSISTENTLY gives U MUCH SUPERIOR play & production over the long haul..SMH
That's fan-boyism at its best LOL!!
The rest of your comment is just the typical dumb fan-boy drivel...it's not even worth addressing..SMH
@tiger1649 your right tiger, Jordan's never scored 42 in a half against a shitty-ass team....GOOD JOB.
He only scored 37in the first half of the first game of the NBA FINALS in 1992, amist the hype of "Jordan vs. Drexler" while sinking a then-NBA record 6 3's in the first half.
But, 37 on the biggest stage isn't quite like 42 against a cellar-dwellar team who's best player was 40-years old, RIGHT??
@tiger1649 Most fans go to watch a basketball game son, and want to see their team play well and win the game. REAL fans care about the team, not just one player. Kobe chucking from 3 and going 0 for 8 isn't doing anything but hurting his team.
"BET JORDAN AT ONE TIME SAID MAGIC WAS THE GREATEST"
No......he didn't.
He only referred to him (and Bird) as the top dog(s) in the league during his formative years, because their teams were the dominant forces at that time. But he NEVER called either the "greatest of all time".
And your ((SHOW ME VIDS)) comments are bullsh*t....
@bruc3b1tch : drexler led his team to the finals twice...prime tmac is a 2nd round virgin...& the most depressing thing for him is the only time his team advances to the 2nd round is when he doesn't play.
@bruc3b1tch : kenny1984 said iverson is a 6'0" midget that plays no defense but now you say he was one of kobe's tough competition..so is he right or you?
@imsljr420 competition because u have to defrend (chase) him on the other end of the floor. do u play basketball? lookit jordans number vs ai? his fg shooting vs ai is lower than his season fg shooting.(as a bull).i dont want to include wizards years.
They act like no other player that was a dominant player (particularly scorer) in history was EVER doubled, tripled or zoned.
It's amazing that we have homers that delusional that they'd continuously try to imply that, just so they can hold on to some delusions of grandeur about their man-crush..SMH
@imsljr420 show me where i said something like this "i thought you guys said there is "zone" & double teaming"? so why not double ai? or is kobe the only player that gets doubled?"--- i never metioned any of these. just like on your private message. dont mistaken me.
@blackadam06 learn some basketball before engaging with me. shaq was first pic of class 92, cwebb was from 93, big dog 94,joe smith 95, ai 96, duncan 97, olowokandi 98..know your FUCKS. google search or something. smh
@bruc3b1tch : kobe has great competition devin brown mike miller kyle kover derek anderson wally szczerbiak antonio daniels matt carroll cuttino mobley delante west 6'3" jason terry 6"2" ben gordon 6'3" kirk hinrich 6'3" all HOFers right?
@imsljr420 oh u want to play that game. tell me who your picking kirck hinrich or viny del negro? mobley or harold miner? jason terry or john starks? craig ehlo or derek anderson? monta ellis or hawkins?
@bruc3b1tch "kirck hinrich or viny del negro?" How about Mullin > Hinrich "mobley or harold miner?" How about Richmond > Mobley "jason terry or john starks?" How about Sprewell > Terry "craig ehlo or derek anderson?" How about JR Rider > Anderson "monta ellis or hawkins?" How about Dominique > Hawkins
@bruc3b1tch : starks > terry...i would say hersey hawkins > ellis cuz ellis plays in the era that's meant for the perimeter players, if hawkins played now he be a superstar.
@imsljr420 how about if i say why would u take starks when he had the worst shooting night ever by a player in the nba finals? actually hawkins is just on the same level of eric gordon. and im being generous (its just my personal opinion). how about the others? how about the star level players. you pick drexler or wade? tmac or richmond? miller or allen? ai or spree? who u gonna match up with the likes of broy, kevin martin,and manu?
What's Manu but another version of Sarunas Marciulionis under favorable (and easier) rules that favors perimeter players?
B-Roy is a great player & it's unfortunate about his degenerative knees, but just like Manu and the new rules, what's he (Roy) but another version of Steve Smith?
What's Kevin Martin compared to a PRIME Penny Hardaway or Grant Hill?
Nothing!!
The new rules is what contributes to their SLIGHTLY BETTER #s so please!
@blackadam06 : yeah that's what i was going to say, i think they're all great drexler, wade, miller, allen, t mac, richmond etc. & i've said many time there is more stars in the perimeter now but like you said the rules help them out a lot.
"how come michael finley and eddie jones made big improvements on their scoring?"
SMH
How come in '05 & '06, 11 of the Top 20 scorers posted CAREER HIGHS in ppg avg? How come from 2002-03 there were 5 Bigs on the Top 10 scorers list but from 2005-06 (new rules), that # DROPPED to 1?
Now if your stupid a** think that's a damn coincidence, you're crazy, ESPECIALLY since this was a time of 0 tolerance hand-checking being instituted that EVERYONE benefited from LOL!!
@blackadam06 did u do your google search? tell me what did google show u? LOL. stupid homer. draft class 92 was shaq not 93. lets see how well u know your hero, what draft class is your hero michael jordan? and which draft class is the best ever? your going down old fag im going for the KO! keep dodging. keep dodging. hahaha
The new rules are "WHY" there's MORE perimeter stars today LOL!!
Guys like Joe Johnson, Steve Nash, Gilbert Arenas, hell Ricky Rubio have all ADMITTED to how the new rules have SIGNIFICANTLY impacted the production of today's perimeter players LOL!!
Rubio said it was EASIER LOL!!
Where were all of these high scoring perimeter players B4 the implementation of the new rules?
Nowhere!!
The # of 'em in the Top 20 in scoring jumped from 3 to 11 after this happened LOL!!
@blackadam06 try answering this first. did u do your google search? tell me what did google show u? LOL. stupid homer. draft class 92 was shaq not 93. lets see how well u know your hero, what draft class is your hero michael jordan? and which draft class is the best ever?
@blackadam06 did u do your google search? tell me what did google show u? LOL. stupid homer. draft class 92 was shaq not 93. lets see how well u know your hero, what draft class is your hero michael jordan? and which draft class is the best ever?
@imsljr420 because blckadm said shaq was from 93 draft class. and defends his claim by saying it was 92-93 season. so by his logic mj was 85 drftclass. because he played 84-85 season. how stupid can your friend be? he cant even acknowledge his own mistake. LOL
@blackadam06 mj was from class 85? because he was drafted 84. but it was 84-85 season right? great. now we know jordan was from 85 draft class. LOL.. hahaha.. stupid jordan fan. doesnt even know what draft class jordan was. GTFOH! LMAO
@blackadam06 mj was from class 85? because he was drafted 84. but it was 84-85 season right? great. now we know jordan was from 85 draft class. LOL.. hahaha.. stupid jordan fan. doesnt even know what draft class jordan was. GTFOH! LMAO
@blackadam06 mj was from class 85? because he was drafted 84. but it was 84-85 season right? great. now we know jordan was from 85 draft class. LOL.. hahaha.. stupid jordan fan. doesnt even know what draft class jordan was. GTFOH! LMAO this is the reason why BWINK is dodging. he always ends up having his butt kicked! hahaha
@blackadam06 mj was from class 85? because he was drafted 84. but it was 84-85 season right? great. now we know jordan was from 85 draft class. LOL.. hahaha.. stupid jordan fan. doesnt even know what draft class jordan was. GTFOH! LMAO this is the reason why BWINK is dodging. he always ends up having his butt kicked! butt unlike him, u seem 2 b enjoying it! hahaha
@imsljr420 because blckadm said shaq was from 93 draft class. and defends his claim by saying it was 92-93 season. so by his logic mj was 85 drftclass. because he played 84-85 season. how stupid can your friend be? he cant even acknowledge his own mistake. LOL
@bruc3b1tch TRANS-boy, you have literally re-posted "Shaq's draft class" 15 damn times. YOU SOUND LIKE AN ELEMENTARY TRANS-school boy when you debate....DRAFT CLASS = IRRELEVANT....Shaq played in 1993, and that's the POINT that was being made.
You have a habit of taking meaningless points and running away with them, stuff that's irrelevant and a waste of time, just cuz it wasn't worded EXACTLY right...
my 11-year old has more sense than you do...and he doesn't wear eye shadow.
I'll take Chris Mullin, Mitch Richmond, Latrell Sprewell, Glen Rice & Dominique Wilkins over Hinrich, Mobley, J. Terry, D. Anderson & M. Ellis any day of the week, and I'm sure any reputable NBA prognosticator would too..
It's sad that U think U can just make claims that MJ competed against nobodies, and that'll magically make it so, just so U can prop kobe up over him...SMH
Morons like U are a joke, because any novice fan could QUICKLY debunk your ignorant ass claims..
@blackadam06 did u do your google search? tell me what did google show u? LOL. stupid homer. draft class 92 was shaq not 93. lets see how well u know your hero, what draft class is your hero michael jordan? and which draft class is the best ever?
@tiger1649 : i watched kobe's greatest games & they are WEAK....i was just laughing at the weak defense jalen rose had to play on him. backing away so they don't call a ticky tack foul on him.
@imsljr420 I DIDN'T MATTER WHO WAS ON HIM THAT NIGHT, WHEN YOU ARE SHOOTING WITH THE RANGE HE WAS SHOOTING IT WOULDN'T MATTER! LIKE WHAT ((DIRK SAID))) WHEN KOBE KILLED THEM, HE SAID WE PUT (((EVERY)) BODY ON HIM BUT (((IT WASN'T NOTHING WE COULD DO)))! HE'S THE GREATEST PERFORMER AND SCORER IN HISTORY AND YOU KNOW IT! PERIOD!
@blackadam06 YOU GO AND TELL THE 2010 CELTS KOBE SHOT 6/ 24! BUT (((AFTER THINKING)) ABOUT THE 4TH QTR WHEN KOBE CLOSED THEM OUT , THEY WOULD TELL YOU TO SHUT UP, PLEASE WITH ALL THAT ((STATICAL)) GARBARGE! PERIOD!
@blackadam06 SO WHO WAS GOAT BEFORE JORDAN? AND IN GAME 7 WHEN THE SCORE WAS 64/64 KOBE HAD 5 STRAIGHT RBS NOT PAU, KOBE SCORED THE NEXT 4 POINTS, NOT PAU, ((GAVE )) PAU A ASIST FOR TWO MORE POINTS AND LAKERS 70/64, THEN THE CLINCHER ASIST TO ARTEST GAME OVER, AND KOBE SCORED 10 PT'S IN THE 4TH QTR! NOT PAU! PLUS PAU MISSED THE FT'S AT CRUNCHTIME, THEY GAVE HIM A BASKET WHEN HE MADE THAT SHOT LATE IN THE GAME! SO GO LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT BB BEFORE YOU THINK ABOUT DEBATING ME! PERIOD
You'll find on MANY b-ball forums that most other NBA fans REALLY don't care for the average kobe fan, because of the juvenile "cult of ignorance" they OFTEN exhibit.
There's a strain of anti facts/evidence/intellectualism that runs DEEP throughout their cliques, and their sentiments are nurtured by this childish notion of "my ignorance is just as good as your intelligence" or facts.
MANY are seriously put off by it and find offensive, and is why most fans are hostile towards 'em..
@blackadam06 DAM!! THAT'S SOME DEEP INTELLECTUAL SHIT! WHAT'S YOUR PROFESSION? ARE YOU A PHYCHOLOGIST? WHERE YOU GO WRONG IS FACTS,INTELLECTUALISM AND DEFINATELY EVIDENCE! BUT YOU WOULD HAVE MORE CREDIBILITY IF YOU COULD ((SHOW)) ALL THIS TO BE TRUE! SO HOLD OFF WITH ALL THE PSYCH HYPE TALK AND SHOW WHAT YOU MEAN! MAKE IT EASIER FOR THE FANS WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND LIKE ME! NOW YOU CAN PUT THE PIN DOWN AND GET OUT THE PROJECTOR AND DEMONSTRATE! LET'S START WITH MJ'S BETTER DPOY,D !PD
@tiger1649 Kobe has never even averaged 2 steals per game dumbass,let alone 1 block.
Jordan has done both,and then some! Eat it! The stats and videos show,Michael was not only offensively better (Maybe With the exception of Threes) but is defensively better as well. MJ is the complete package.
@MegaSplash1 WHEN YOU PLAY SOLID MAN DEFENSE THE WAY KOBE DID IN HIS PRIME HE DIDN'T NEED TO ROME OFF HIS MAN! WHEN YOU CHECK TOP SCORERS LIKE A AI OR T MAC LEADING SCORERS YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO ROME, BUT WHEN YOU CHECK WEAK OFFENSIVE PLAYERS YOU CAN, LIKE JORDAN! SHOW ME A GAURD WHERE JORDAN CHECKED A PLAYER FOR AT LEAST A QTR MONO TO MONO! COACHES DON'T TEACH STEALING THE BALL BECAUSE IT'S NOT SOLID DEFENSE BECAUSE YOU GET BURNED LIKE (((KOBE DID TO JORDAN)) ON THIS VID! PERIOD!
@MegaSplash1 THE DUMBASS IS THE ONE WHO CAN'T (((SHOW ANYTHING))) AND WE KNOW THE REAL JACKASS! LOOK SOME OF YOUR WORST MAN DEFENDERS HAVE MANY STEALS THE BEST EXAMPLE WAS THE ALLTIME LEADING STEAL PLAYER JOHN STOCKTON! ((PITIFUL MAN DEFENDER)))! SO THIS IN ITSELF SHOW YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT! WAS STOCKTON A BETTER DEFENDER THAN KOBE? PERIOD!
@tiger1649 I don't have to show you anything,you never show me anything other than your biased reasoning,you don't even bother to look at the whole picture. You really contradict,how is it that some so called 'pitful' defender comes up with so many steals huh?
I guess he would have to be good at 'stealing' in order to do so! face it! stockton managed to rack up more steals than Kobe and MJ. But 1 thing that separates MJ from stockton is blocks. Same with Kobe.
@tiger1649 It would be impossible for a 'pitful' man defender,to come up with so many steals. Stockton was exploited sometimes yes,but who isn't? You see players blowing by just about anyone. I guess that makes them 'pitful' man defenders too.
Really though,someone with 'pitful' man defense manages to rack so many steals? In that case they must not even be 'pitful' to begin with!
QUOTE:"Stockton was known for his unassuming, no-nonsense approach to the game, hard-nosed defense."
@tiger1649 It must be so PAINFUL for a kobetard to admit someone bests their hero kobe bryant at ANYTHING.
Even though,the evidence is RIGHT IN YOUR FUCKING FACE.
Stockton leads in steals,I'm not afraid to say he was the better at coming up with steals. But YOU KOBETARDS on the other hand,would rather come up with a million excuses as to why he managed so many.
@MegaSplash1 THIS IS WHAT I JUST RESEARCHED KOBE VS JORDAN 6 GAMES HEAD TO HEAD KOBE SCORED MORE POINTS , WON MORE GAMES, KOBE BLOCKED, STOLE THE BALL,AND DUNKED ON JORDAN! EVEN AT 18 HE SCORED 53 POINT'S PLAYING OFF THE BENCH AND FAR LESS MINUTES THAN JORDAN, BUT THE GAME THAT WILL BE ETCHED IN STONE WAS THE 55 POINT HUMILIATION AND EMBARRASSMENT AT STAPLES AT JORDANS OWN RETIRMENT PARTY! HEAD TO HEAD KOBE KILLED JORDAN! AND PIPPEN HIS WHOLE CAREER! TWO MORE NOTCHES ON HIS BELT!PD
@tiger1649 What I researched was OVERALL IN THEIR MATCHUPS MJ scored 196 points > Kobe scored 182 COUNTING EVERY matchup,except all star games I believe. Even then the gap got a little BIGGER.
MJ vs KOBE MJ as a bull vs Kobe when scoring is 124 > 63. AS an OLD ASS WIZARD.
Jordan scored 72 points(MORE THAN YOUNG KOBE) Kobe scored 119 points,against an OLD MJ. But EVEN THEN 124 > 119 LMAO!
@tiger1649
tiger1649: "kobe's the GOAT! Just ((LOOK)) at his play!"
fan: "Well where's your proof of this'?
tiger1649: "Just ((LOOK)) at his play..he's the most skilled player ever!"
fan: "Then why isn't it constantly reflected in his seasonal production?"
tiger1649: "Because his skill is so great that the stats can’t reflect it..PERIOD!"
fan: "What? He constantly leads or is in the Top 3 in FTA’s, FGA’s & Usage rate."
tiger1649: Uhhh..((SHOW ME)) anyone who looks better in HD..PERIOD!!"
LOL!!
blackadam06 12 hours ago
@blackadam06 LOL...he's got a sickness, and it's called GAYNESS.
bwink23 12 hours ago
@blackadam06 I SEE NOTHING BAD ABOUT HIS SEASONAL PRODUCTION! KOBES BEEN THE BEST PLAYER (EVERY)) YEAR SINCE THE 4TH QTR OF 2000! PLUS YOU HAVE TO BE CONSISTANTLY HAVING PRODUCTION TO HAVE ALMOST EVERY SCORING CATERGORY OF ALL THE GREAT LAKERS PLAYERS! ((SO WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT))? EVEN AFTER 16 YEARS HE STILL LEADS THE LEAGUE IN SCORING AFTER 20 GAMES! TWO BLOCKS LAST NIGHT AND 35 PT'S! AND HIS GAMES REFLECT'S HIS GREATNESS AND WE CAN SEE THEM! JORDAN IS A PAPER GOAT! PERIOD!
tiger1649 23 minutes ago
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@tiger1649
"I SEE NOTHING BAD ABOUT HIS SEASONAL PRODUCTION"
Not if your judging him on his own merit, but this is a comparison to MJ and with that being said, his seasonal production falls WOEFULLY SHORT when measured against what #23 did...especially in the playoffs.
"KOBES BEEN THE BEST PLAYER (EVERY)) YEAR SINCE THE 4TH QTR OF 2000!"
That's a lie LOL!!
"EVEN AFTER 16 YEARS HE STILL LEADS THE LEAGUE IN SCORING"
He's only done it TWICE & the season isn't over yet fool...SMH
blackadam06 18 minutes ago
@tiger1649
"TWO BLOCKS LAST NIGHT AND 35 PT'S! AND HIS GAMES REFLECT'S HIS GREATNESS"
In the words of Dave Chappelle: "got'cha bitch" LOL!!
See I knew if given enough time you'd contradict yourself..SMH
What happened to:
"stats mean/prove nothing..stats are too confusing & complicated"?!!
How is it that those stats PROVE his greatness & what he did vs MIN last night, but MJ's allegedly don't, thus make him as U call it: "a paper champ"?
How does this hypocrisy work?!!
blackadam06 12 minutes ago
@tiger1649 Or course, everything on paper backs up what Jordan did on the court....
chucking a bunch of 3's while being almost the worst 3-pointer shooter in NBA history isn't necessary to becoming a GOAT.
12 3's in a game? A chucking record SHARED with Donyell Marshall....LOL
Call me when Kobe can score 1 50-point game in the playoffs that didn't go into overtime...
bwink23 7 minutes ago
@tiger1649 Michael Jordan never missed 11 3's in a one game.
Kobe was 2 for 13 in a game..funny how no one uploads that so we CAN SEE IT....
But do i really need to SEE IT for it to be the SMOKING GUN?? LOL!
bwink23 5 minutes ago
"BET JORDAN AT ONE TIME SAID MAGIC WAS THE GREATEST"
Jordan doesn't believe in a GOAT
ClipCoug 13 hours ago
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@bruc3b1tch
"were the bulls NO.1 on offense during mj scoring reign?"
They were in '91, '92, and '96. And in '98, they BARELY were Top 10 in Ortg (#9).
But notice in the 2 season he wasn't there ('94 & '95), they ranked #14 & #10 in Ortg.
Gee I wonder why that is?
And from his rookie season thru 1990, they NEVER ranked #1 in Ortg.
It makes no difference...MJ was able to lead the league in scoring whether his team was #1 in Ortg or not, so what's your point?
blackadam06 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch
The only thing U could EVER school me on is how to properly apply & wear women's makeup LOL!!
blackadam06 1 day ago
@blackadam06 did u do your google search? tell me what did google show u? LOL. stupid homer. draft class 92 was shaq not 93. lets see how well u know your hero, what draft class is your hero michael jordan? and which draft class is the best ever?
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
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@imsljr420
"kenny1984 said iverson is a 6'0" midget that plays no defense but now you say he was one of kobe's tough competition..so is he right or you?"
Hey bro kenny1984 = bruc3b1tch
He's been posting under his new alias every since I exposed his comments about him loving to wear women's makeup & finding it relaxing LOL!!
blackadam06 1 day ago
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Jordan is 7-1 against AI as a Bull. Jordan played against and beat more 60-win teams in the playoffs than Kobe. So who had the tougher competition?
TheGodOfBasketball1 1 day ago
Jordan is 7-1 against AI. Jordan played against and beat more 60-win teams in the playoffs than Kobe. So who had the tougher competition?
TheGodOfBasketball1 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch
Speaking of broken records:
"Kobe is on pace to [break] John Havlicek's [record] for [most missed shots] in a [career] by early 2014, according to John Hollinger at ESPN. There's a [97%] chance of him setting the mark which essentially means that [barring injury], he'll [hold the record]. His [current] rate is [866 misses a season], which puts him only 2,204 misses short of the record."
-- E. Carchia: "Kobe to Break The Record For Most Missed Shots in a Career"; Jan 20, 2011
LOL!!
blackadam06 1 day ago
@blackadam06 thats all u guys can talk about. kobe being a volume shooter. i agree compared to jordan he is. but jordan did his thing vs mediocre competition.
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch
"thats all u guys can talk about. kobe being a volume shooter"
Because it exposes in GREAT DETAIL "HOW" he accomplishes his offensive feats.
If U took 2 snipers & compared how many kills they get per 10 tries and U see that Sniper A gets 1 kill per 1-2 shots, whereas it takes Sniper B 6-7 shots just to do the same thing, would U continuously claim that he's "as good" as Sniper A?
No!!
Why do U kobe homers have such a hard time accepting the reality of the situation?!!
blackadam06 1 day ago
@blackadam06 great detail? no theyre not the same. just because they play the same position dont mean they have the same game.shaq and hakeem r both centers. but theyre offense are not the same type. hkeem shot a career .512 fg while shaq has a .582fg. do u want me to define their respective games to u? why the other shoots at a higher percentage?
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
@bwink23 scared homer. Did lebitch numbers dropped 06-07 season vs 10-11 season when he had a better team? Idiot
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch SCARED?? a little, i'm not comfortable conversing with trans-genders....creeps me out. LOL.
bwink23 1 day ago
@bwink23
Transgenders LOL!!
blackadam06 1 day ago
@bwink23 i guess youre conceding? ok. NEXT.
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch When you get done talking to yourself and finish your eyeliner.....go look up the general consensus on the GOAT player in the NBA, and let me know what you find, LOL!!!!!!!!!
bwink23 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch
"i'm not comfortable conversing with trans-genders....creeps me out"
--bwink23
Hahahahaha***wiping my eyes***Hahahahaha
That's a good one LOL!!
blackadam06 1 day ago
@blackadam06 its simple. u fags dont have answers. guess i wont be talking to bwink anymore. he already conceded.lol do u wnt to concede too?
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
ANALYST SAID KOBE FAILED TO SHOW UP! THAT'S WHAT I MEAN BY STUPID & NOT KNOWING THE GAME! SOME ANALYST SAID LEBRON WAS BETTER THAN JORDAN & HE PLAYED WITH HIM, MANY SAID LEBRON WAS BETTER THAN KOBE, MANY SAY MAGIC IS GREATEST LAKER, & FROM MY FACTUAL POST BELOW ABOUT KOBE IN THE 4TH QTR OF GAME SEVEN & HIM SAYING KOBE DIDN'T EVEN SHOW UP MAKES HIM ON OF THE STUPIDEST ANALYST EVER, WORST THAN BARKLEY ONE WEEK SAID KOBE WAS TOP TEN EVER THEN THE NEXT TOP 5! THE ANALYST NOW SAY KB TOP 7 NOW! PD!
tiger1649 1 day ago
@tiger1649 Yet, universally Michael Jordan is regarded as the greatest player to ever play the game. No matter what or who your talking about...
AINT THAT A BITCH!!!
bwink23 1 day ago
@tiger1649
He DIDN'T show up!
Hell he's shot 40% or LOWER in 5 career finals LOL!!
MJ & kobe vs their teammates in career finals FG%
MJ: 443-911 (49%) > his teammates: 865-1990 (45%)
KB: 333-808 (41%) < his teammates: 1041-2161 (48%)
Now what's wrong with this picture?
Even Magic said during the pre-game show B4 they played the Heat, that kobe's "only as good as his Bigs" LOL!!
It's like Bill Plashcke said, they consistently win their big games in spite of (not because of) him LOL!!
blackadam06 1 day ago
I FIGURED YOU WERE SMART ENOUGH TO GET OUT OF THAT ONE! BUT I'M WATCHING KOBE BUST UP THE BUCKS END OD THE 1ST QTR KOBE 6 MORE POINT'S CLOSER TO THE (((TAKEOVER)) OF JORDANS CAREER PT TOTAL! PERIOD!
tiger1649 1 day ago
@tiger1649
ESPN analyst: "do you think kobe should've won finals MVP?"
Bill Plashcke: "No! I'm still trying to figure out who voted for that. Absolutely not! Pau Gasol showed that he was the [heart & soul] of [that team] last night. Kobe didn't even [show up]. Just because a guy scores the most points [shouldn't] make him the MVP. They won [in spite of] kobe bryant. Pau had [1 bad game] in the series."
/watch?v=UlotKqzsUjg
It took kobe 24 FGA's just avg 28ppg that series LOL!!
MVP my ass LOL!!
blackadam06 1 day ago
@tiger1649 Yeah a bunch of layins, jumpers, FT's etc... etc....BORING! Where was this GOAT range you speak of. All I saw was 1-5 from the 3-point line. Oh yeah, Lakers lost by double digits, so don't even talk about this game since it's an asterick game by your standards
TheGodOfBasketball1 1 day ago
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@tiger1649
"Both have a [good] shooting touch. Some people say Kobe is a better shooter, but I don't know if Kobe is a [better shooter] than Michael was [at his best]."
-- Tex Winter: "Tex Winter Compares Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan"; True Hoop, Mar 29, 2007
"KOBES RANKED 7TH THIS YEAR"
So what?
Why do U ALWAYS try to make the comparison about a season or a game or 2?
"JORDAN SAID HE'S ONLY A TOP TEN GAURD"
To which even kobe himself AGREED LOL!!
"DO YOU BELIEVE THEM?"
I believe kobe LOL!!
blackadam06 2 days ago
He talks about Kobe shutting down Billups,but wait by kobetard logic,Chauncey is a midget! That's not fair! lmao!
MegaSplash1 2 days ago
@MegaSplash1 NOW YOU SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WATCHING FROM THE OUTSIDE! SEE HOW THEY SOUND IN THESE (((((LAST 2 PAGES)))) OF POST! I KNOW YOU HAVE TO SUPPORT THEM BUT I JUST WANTED YOU TO SEE HOW PREPARED YOU HAVE TO BE TO CHALLENGE ME ! BUT I TRULY ADMIRE YOUR COURAGE! LOL! PERIOD
tiger1649 2 days ago
@tiger1649
"I JUST WANTED YOU TO SEE HOW PREPARED YOU HAVE TO BE TO CHALLENGE ME!"
Hahahahahahahahahaha***wiping my eyes***Hahahahahahahahahaha
Oh shit LOL!!
blackadam06 2 days ago
@blackadam06 WHAT I EXPECTED YOU TO SAY, BUT I KNOW YOU ARE INTELLEGENT BECAUSE I SEEN YOUR POST! BUT IN THIS DEBATE YOU CAN'T WIN BECAUSE STAT'S ARE NOT THE DETERMINING FACTOR! IT'S WHAT WE CAN SEE AND YOU AND I KNOW BY NOW INSIDE WHO'S THE BETTER PLAYER! I KNOW YOU CAN'T SAY KOBE BUT IT'S OKAY AS LONG AS THE DEBATES ARE SEEN BY OBJECTIVE NBA FANS! I'M ON MJ SITES NOW AND ONE MJ FAN SAID INSTEAD OF (DEBATING) HE WISH I WOULD DIE! IT' HURTS HIM THAT MUCH! I GET A LOT OF CURSING! PD
tiger1649 2 days ago
@tiger1649 "UT IN THIS DEBATE YOU CAN'T WIN BECAUSE STAT'S ARE NOT THE DETERMINING FACTOR! IT'S WHAT WE CAN SEE "
Samething with analysts and experts and guess what the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY SAY: MJ IS BETTER
sopa71479 2 days ago
@sopa71479
MJ is over rated and over hyped by all of you MJ stans.
fact.
Kobe is under rated and over hated by almost everybody.
you need to see the light and the truth behind the curtain kids.
Kobe > MJ
nyelement007 2 days ago
@nyelement007 Feel free to Google all GOAT lists you can find on the internet and Youtube...95% of them have Jordan at number one...CLUELESS TERD
NEXT
bwink23 2 days ago
@bwink23 SO WHAT JORDAN IS STILL ASSUMED AS THE GOAT NOW? MAGIC WAS GOAT UNTIL 1990 AND CLEARLY JORDAN WAS A BETTER PLAYER IN 1986, 87,89 & 90! PLUS JORDAN HAD THE BETTER STAT'S AND JUST LIKE MAGIC WHEN HE RETIRED IT WENT TO JORDAN, AND THE SAME WILL HAPPEN TO JORDAN WITH KOBE BECAUSE KOBE WAS CLEARLY BETTER THAN JORDAN IN THIER PRIME AND THE VIDS SHOW IT! IT WILL BE A HUMBLING & SAD DAY FOR YOU WHEN 95% OF THE NET SAY KOBES THE GOAT! I WON'T FIND ANY OF YOU NOWHERE BEFORE THAT! PERIOD!
tiger1649 1 day ago
@tiger1649 try again dumb fuck
sopa71479 1 day ago
@sopa71479 TO SHOW YOU HOW STUPID AND HARD IT IS TO TELL THE TRUTH, THOSE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAY JORDAN IS THE GREATEST SAY MAGIC IS THE GREATEST LAKER! NOW HOW STUPID IS THAT? PERIOD!
tiger1649 1 day ago
@tiger1649 Magic 5 rings, 3 league MVPs and 3 Finals MVPs
get back to me when Kobe gets close to this
sopa71479 1 day ago
@tiger1649
"MAGIC WAS GOAT UNTIL 1990"
Magic has NEVER been regarded as the GOAT at ANY point in his career, so WTF are U talkin' about?!!
That just FURTHER lets me know that U don't know what you're talkin' about, and didn't even see that era...SMH
"WHEN HE RETIRED IT WENT TO JORDAN"
MJ was considered the "best" player in the league as early as '87, despite the fact that his team hadn't won a title yet.
The only time kobe's EVER been better than MJ was when he was a Wizard LOL!!
blackadam06 1 day ago
@nyelement007 you mean the curtain of stupidity you and tiger try to place on everyon?
try again hypocrite
sopa71479 2 days ago
@tiger1649
It's NOT ENTIRELY about what we see! How f*ckin' retarded is that?!!
That doesn't even make any sense!
What one sees varies for from fan-2-fan. People can watch a game & see something TOTALLY DIFFERENT!
That's WHY empirical evidence & on-court production is used to either VALIDATE or INVALIDATE one's claims.
Watching the game is just witnessing the "act", but their stats will give U the consistent RESULTS "of that act".
That's the PROOF of they've actually DONE & consistently DO!
blackadam06 2 days ago
@tiger1649
If it were ALL about just "seeing" them play, kobe would STILL lose because guys like LBJ, V.C. & MJ's highlights ALONE puts him to shame..
We BOTH know your ((SEEING)) argument is bullsh*t, because if it were true, U wouldn't be consistently throwing out "12 3ptrs...81 pts...62 pts in 3 qtrs" every damn time when talkin' about kobe!
Those are called stats dummy!!
So how the hell can stats prove what kobe did in those games, but not prove what MJ consistently did in his career?!!
blackadam06 2 days ago
@blackadam06 LBJ, VC OR JORDAN'S ARCHIVE IS WEAK COMPARED TO KOBES, ALSO THOSE GAMES I ALWAYS MENTION ARE GREAT AND CAN BE SEEN AS THAT! WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO PUT UP HIS BAD GAMES! THEY ((((ALL))) HAVE PLENTY OF THOSE! PERIOD!
tiger1649 1 day ago
@tiger1649 Trust me the MJ archive is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better
Kobe has more than enough bad games to show for his career
try again dumb fuck
sopa71479 1 day ago
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@sopa71479 "Trust me the MJ archive is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better
Kobe has more than enough bad games to show for his career
try again dumb fuck" ---way better? right.while playing against nobodys. LOL
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch well if bird, Ray allen, kobe are nobodies huh
sopa71479 1 day ago
@sopa71479 stupid. stupid.stupid. :) ray allen is a batchmate of bryant. so he belongs to this era. ray allen played only two seasons against jordan (bulls on a uniform). bird is a SF magic is a PG. who did michael beat? how many sg from mj era made top 5 scoring 3 seasons in a row? who mitch rihmond? then who?
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch a batchmate who beat him for a title and tied and broke the finals record for most 3 pointers? MJ was the one defending Magic for the majority of the finals
Name me superstar SG Kobe has faced in the Playoffs?
sopa71479 1 day ago
@sopa71479 yes ray allen beat kobe. but kobe beat allen too. btw the topic here is dot include allen to jordans weak ass competition. ok? jordans best competition were clyde and reggie miller. both are inferior to the likes of wade ai and tmac (not injured). miller is inferior to allen. he brokes reggies record. NO COMPETITION.
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch why doesnt it include Ray allen, MJ played against him on a few occasion so why is he excluded?
sopa71479 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch MJ faced him in 12 games and was held to 16 ppg try again moron, funny how you dont want to include him because he kills your whole arguement
sopa71479 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch
"dot include allen to jordans weak ass competition"
He was DRAFTED in '96 U ignorant bastard!
" jordans best competition were clyde and reggie miller. both are inferior to the likes of wade ai and tmac (not injured)"
Prime Clyde is EVERY BIT as good as either, and T-Mac is nothing bit a shoot 1st version of Penny Hardaway..
And what does breaking someone's record have to do with how good they were?
That doesn't even make any damn sense!!
SMH...
blackadam06 1 day ago
@blackadam06 yea so i guess kobe played two seasons vs jordan makes him a 90s player too. lol. and i bet u guys include dr as one of jordan greatest competition because jordan played against a prime 36yo julius erving. how desperate..and tmac played against jordan for 1 season. he was still on the bench learning the game. he a competition too? LOL a prime tmac lead the league in scoring. what did a prime drxler do?
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch he played 3 seasons in the 90s
sopa71479 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch A prime drexler did something Tmac was never able to do, lead a team past the first round
sopa71479 1 day ago
@sopa71479 first round or finals whats the difference? still NO RING.
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch : OMG..yeah good comeback....scoring title or no scoring tile what's the difference still couldn't get out of the first round
speaking of scoring can anyone explain why kobe is leading the league in scoring & yet his team is 20th in offense & has gone 13 straight games without cracking 100 pts?
imsljr420 1 day ago
@imsljr420 do i have to explain erything to u? uh uh not this time aound. do some research yourself. damn u jordan fags. one said i was making up a fact when i told him magic had the finals record for most TO. when he couldnt find it i had to link him to it. :( do some research before u argue.
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch
"do some research yourself"
You're the LAST person that needs to say that to anyone..
And speaking of finals records, why don't U refute the FACT that kobe's TWICE set the record for the most missed shots in a finals or that he's shot 40% or LOWER in 5 career finals..
How about U "try" to do that and then argue cakeboy...
blackadam06 1 day ago
@blackadam06 wow again the fg% kobe volume shooter. agreed. now what? is that your only reason why jordan is better? better FG vs nobodys?smh
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch
Well that and the fact that MJ consistently put up BETTER #s in EVERY FACET of the game (save for reg season 3pt shooting...and that's barely) in the reg season, playoffs & finals, and did so in a much more physically demanding (and defensive) era..
blackadam06 1 day ago
@blackadam06 better #s vs who? all season long he played against who? tell me who r the great sg he faced. wade, tmac & ai> drexler > ray allen>reggie miller..
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
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@bruc3b1tch
"better #s vs who? all season long he played against who?"
Why don't U go ask your pal KobeConfidence, seeing as how he posted thise GREAT #s of all of those great scoring perimeter players MJ competed against?
LOL!!
His comment ALONE owns your dumb implications LOL!!
blackadam06 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch : i did do research & found that kobe's shot jacking is hurting his team...now i want to hear what his fans have to say.
imsljr420 1 day ago
@imsljr420 if thats the reason then the coach should make adjustments. maybe he should make kobe take only 15-18 fga per game. but thats the coachs decision. what can we (as fans) do? u think we can influence coach brown to do something like that?
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch : but i thought kobe was this great scorer so shouldn't his scoring help his team & make them the #1 ranked offense.
imsljr420 1 day ago
@imsljr420 tell me were the bulls NO.1 on offense during mj scoring reign?
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
@sopa71479 hilarious how bryant is so much better according to these guys because he has had more success in the postseason,but the same doesnt apply when they are pulling their moronic "competition" card.
netcap001 1 day ago
@netcap001 no whats hilarious and sad, is that people say kobe is better than jordan....when kobe says himself "MJ is the greatest to play the game." I like them both the torch was passed from MJ to Kobe.
1017Wildcat 1 day ago in playlist Kobe vs Jordan 09
@1017Wildcat GOOGLE : KOBE ON BEING THE GREATEST EVER IT'S IMPOSSIBLE! I BET JORDAN AT ONE TIME SAID MAGIC WAS THE GREATEST! THE GREATEST PLAYER GAME ARCHIVE MAKES JORDANS GAMES LOOK LIKE CHILDS PLAY IN EVERY ERA THAT CAN BE PROVED ON VIDS! JORDANS A PAPER GOAT AND SECOND RATE WHEN IT COMES TO PERFORMANCES VS KOBE! BUT IF YOU CAN ((SHOW)) NOT ((READ)) JORDAN DOING ((ANYTHING)) BETTER THAN KOBE PROVE ME WRONG ON EITHER SIDE OF THE BALL! BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BE ((SAD))! PERIOD!
tiger1649 22 hours ago
@tiger1649 watch the video kobe calls jordan a goat, what do you need performance for if Kobe says himself that Michael is the best player to play the game?
1017Wildcat 21 hours ago
@1017Wildcat MY VID SHOWED KOBES LAST STATEMENT IN OCT! YOU ARE USING OLD QUOTES! HAVE YOU (((((SEEN MY CHANNEL SITE))))) YOU CAN GET A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT JORDANS ERA & COMPETITION WAS LIKE COMPARED TO KOBE'S! PERIOD!
tiger1649 16 hours ago
@tiger1649 : can you show kobe being better than jordan at anything?...kobe's greatest games look weak vs jordan's greatest games and you know it!
imsljr420 21 hours ago
@imsljr420 tiger likes it when a guy jacks up 3 after 3....Kobe's one of the worst 3-point shooters of all time..Only Antoine Walker carries a worse 3-point % than Kobe for guys with 4,000 career attempts.....FACT
and yes tiger, he has games where it hits many, and games where he misses many....that's what happens when your a glory hound chucking for spectacle instead of efficiency.
bwink23 20 hours ago
@bwink23 CHUCKING FOR A SPECTACLE? WHAT DO YOU THINK FANS WANT TO SEE? WHEN I GO TO A GAME I WANT TO SEE A EXTRAORDINARY SHOW! NO A AVG SHOW! SOMETHING SPECIAL I CAN REMEMBER THAT NOBODY EVER DID IN THE NBA! NOT A PLAYER WHO MAKES AROUND 30,000,000 A YEAR PASSING TO A 8 MILLION DOLLAR PLAYER! I WOULD WANT MY MONEY BACK IF DID THAT TO MUCH PERIOD!
tiger1649 16 hours ago
@tiger1649
"WHEN I GO TO A GAME I WANT TO SEE A EXTRAORDINARY SHOW!"
Lemme get this straight: you'd deem a guy as "better" because he had 1 or a few great moments/games/plays, than the guy who CONSISTENTLY gives U MUCH SUPERIOR play & production over the long haul?
Is that what you're saying?
40+ pt PLAYOFF games during title seasons from highest to lowest
MJ: 56, 55, 55, 54, 46, 46, 46, 46, 45, 45, 44, 44, 43, 42, 42, 41, 41
kobe: 48, 45, 41, 40, 40, 40, 40
Care to ((SHOW ME)) anything better?
blackadam06 14 hours ago
@tiger1649
"WHAT DO YOU THINK FANS WANT TO SEE?"
They want to see CONSISTENTLY good/great play from their team, not just a FEW "shining moments"...SMH
It's no wonder U post the ignorant sh*t up on these boards...all U care about are highlights & spectacular (isolated) "plays", but not consistently GREAT basketball..SMH
God U are such an idiot...
blackadam06 14 hours ago
@blackadam06 WHERE DID I SAY EXTRAORDINARY POINT'S? I SAID THINGS, LIKE WHILE SCORING THOSE POINT'S THEY WERE DONE IN SPECTACULAR FASHION! (((NOT LIKE)))) 1OO PT'S FROM PLAYERS 17 FEET AND IN, AND WILTS WAS PROBABLY 5 FEET BESIDES FT'S WHICH WAS A MILLION! A SHOW IS LIKE HOW KOBE PERFORMED VS JORDAN WHEN HE SCORED 42 IN THE FIRST HALF IN ((SPECTACULAR)) FASHION LIKE EVEN JORDAN HAS NEVER DONE OR SEEN! NOT JUST A BUNCH OF POINTS! CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? PERIOD!
tiger1649 14 hours ago
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@tiger1649
"WHERE DID I SAY EXTRAORDINARY POINT'S?"
Like I said, you're apparently dumb enough to deem 1 guy as "better", because he had 1 or a few great moments/games/plays, than the guy who CONSISTENTLY gives U MUCH SUPERIOR play & production over the long haul..SMH
That's fan-boyism at its best LOL!!
The rest of your comment is just the typical dumb fan-boy drivel...it's not even worth addressing..SMH
blackadam06 13 hours ago
@tiger1649 your right tiger, Jordan's never scored 42 in a half against a shitty-ass team....GOOD JOB.
He only scored 37in the first half of the first game of the NBA FINALS in 1992, amist the hype of "Jordan vs. Drexler" while sinking a then-NBA record 6 3's in the first half.
But, 37 on the biggest stage isn't quite like 42 against a cellar-dwellar team who's best player was 40-years old, RIGHT??
(SARCASM)
bwink23 12 hours ago
@bwink23 : actually it was 35 at half.
imsljr420 12 hours ago
@imsljr420 MY BAD.....still greater game though.
bwink23 11 hours ago
@tiger1649 Most fans go to watch a basketball game son, and want to see their team play well and win the game. REAL fans care about the team, not just one player. Kobe chucking from 3 and going 0 for 8 isn't doing anything but hurting his team.
bwink23 12 hours ago
@tiger1649
"BET JORDAN AT ONE TIME SAID MAGIC WAS THE GREATEST"
No......he didn't.
He only referred to him (and Bird) as the top dog(s) in the league during his formative years, because their teams were the dominant forces at that time. But he NEVER called either the "greatest of all time".
And your ((SHOW ME VIDS)) comments are bullsh*t....
blackadam06 16 hours ago
@bruc3b1tch : drexler led his team to the finals twice...prime tmac is a 2nd round virgin...& the most depressing thing for him is the only time his team advances to the 2nd round is when he doesn't play.
imsljr420 1 day ago
@imsljr420 read my comment to sopa
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch : kenny1984 said iverson is a 6'0" midget that plays no defense but now you say he was one of kobe's tough competition..so is he right or you?
imsljr420 1 day ago
@imsljr420 competition because u have to defrend (chase) him on the other end of the floor. do u play basketball? lookit jordans number vs ai? his fg shooting vs ai is lower than his season fg shooting.(as a bull).i dont want to include wizards years.
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch : i thought you guys said there is "zone" & double teaming"? so why not double ai? or is kobe the only player that gets doubled?
imsljr420 1 day ago
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@imsljr420
" is kobe the only player that gets doubled?"
To let their ignorant ass tell it he is..SMH
They act like no other player that was a dominant player (particularly scorer) in history was EVER doubled, tripled or zoned.
It's amazing that we have homers that delusional that they'd continuously try to imply that, just so they can hold on to some delusions of grandeur about their man-crush..SMH
blackadam06 1 day ago
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@imsljr420 show me where i said something like this "i thought you guys said there is "zone" & double teaming"? so why not double ai? or is kobe the only player that gets doubled?"--- i never metioned any of these. just like on your private message. dont mistaken me.
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch
"lookit jordans number vs ai?"
Still trying to push that bullsh*t huh?
In his last 3 yrs in CHI, MJ shot 126-252 (50%) and avg'd 28ppg in only 34 mpg (less than 3 qtrs of play) vs A.I. and the 76ers.
And he was ages 33-35 LOL!!
Not to mention he led CHI to a 6-1 record vs A.I. and PHI during those seasons and did so while only playing 30 mins or less in 3 of 'em.
So please take your ignorant ass somewhere with this bullsh*t U transgender, women's makeup wearin' ass cake boy..
blackadam06 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch
"ray allen is a batchmate of bryant. so he belongs to this era"
U f*ckin' idiot....U "belong" to the era that you're drafted in!
Would U call Shaq a Y2K player, despite the fact that he was drafted in '93?!!
Besides dumb ass, most players careers span into 2 decades..SMH
blackadam06 1 day ago
@blackadam06 oh stupid mother fucker! lol shaq was drafted 92.smh
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch
"oh stupid mother fucker! lol shaq was drafted 92"
Shaq was drafted the SAME SEASON MJ won his 3rd title.
So genius, what season was that?
blackadam06 1 day ago
@blackadam06 learn some basketball before engaging with me. shaq was first pic of class 92, cwebb was from 93, big dog 94,joe smith 95, ai 96, duncan 97, olowokandi 98..know your FUCKS. google search or something. smh
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch
"shaq was first pic of class 92"
1992-93 season U fuckin' idiot!!
SMH
basketball-reference . com/players/o/onealsh01 . html
There's the link to his professional bio.
Now what year does it say is his rookie season?!!!
I know when the f*ck he was drafted! It was my senior year of high school!
blackadam06 1 day ago
@blackadam06 thats right u fucking moron 92., google search type "draft class 92" lets see what will come out. stupid jordan fag.
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch
SMH..wow
blackadam06 1 day ago
@blackadam06 now u had enuf? told u il school u. lol
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
imsljr420 1 day ago
@imsljr420 oh u want to play that game. tell me who your picking kirck hinrich or viny del negro? mobley or harold miner? jason terry or john starks? craig ehlo or derek anderson? monta ellis or hawkins?
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
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blackadam06 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch : starks > terry...i would say hersey hawkins > ellis cuz ellis plays in the era that's meant for the perimeter players, if hawkins played now he be a superstar.
imsljr420 1 day ago
@imsljr420 how about if i say why would u take starks when he had the worst shooting night ever by a player in the nba finals? actually hawkins is just on the same level of eric gordon. and im being generous (its just my personal opinion). how about the others? how about the star level players. you pick drexler or wade? tmac or richmond? miller or allen? ai or spree? who u gonna match up with the likes of broy, kevin martin,and manu?
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch
"he (starks) had the worst shooting night ever by a player in the nba finals?"
This is a another CLASSIC example of how kobe's VOLUME shooting once again masks his shortcomings.
Yes Starks only made 2 shots, but he only took 18 of 'em.
Kobe took 6 more shots than Starks, thus giving him the opportunity to score (and make) more shots.
So was his performance really all that much better than Starks, considering he tied his own record for the most MISSED shots in finals history?
No..
blackadam06 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch
And U can keep B-Roy, Kevin Martin & Manu.
What's Manu but another version of Sarunas Marciulionis under favorable (and easier) rules that favors perimeter players?
B-Roy is a great player & it's unfortunate about his degenerative knees, but just like Manu and the new rules, what's he (Roy) but another version of Steve Smith?
What's Kevin Martin compared to a PRIME Penny Hardaway or Grant Hill?
Nothing!!
The new rules is what contributes to their SLIGHTLY BETTER #s so please!
blackadam06 1 day ago
@blackadam06 : yeah that's what i was going to say, i think they're all great drexler, wade, miller, allen, t mac, richmond etc. & i've said many time there is more stars in the perimeter now but like you said the rules help them out a lot.
imsljr420 1 day ago
@imsljr420 rules again?LOL then how come michael finley and eddie jones made big improvements on their scoring?
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch
"how come michael finley and eddie jones made big improvements on their scoring?"
SMH
How come in '05 & '06, 11 of the Top 20 scorers posted CAREER HIGHS in ppg avg? How come from 2002-03 there were 5 Bigs on the Top 10 scorers list but from 2005-06 (new rules), that # DROPPED to 1?
Now if your stupid a** think that's a damn coincidence, you're crazy, ESPECIALLY since this was a time of 0 tolerance hand-checking being instituted that EVERYONE benefited from LOL!!
blackadam06 1 day ago
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@blackadam06 did u do your google search? tell me what did google show u? LOL. stupid homer. draft class 92 was shaq not 93. lets see how well u know your hero, what draft class is your hero michael jordan? and which draft class is the best ever? your going down old fag im going for the KO! keep dodging. keep dodging. hahaha
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
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@imsljr420 rules again?LOL then how come michael finley and eddie jones made big improvements on their scoring?
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
@imsljr420
The new rules are "WHY" there's MORE perimeter stars today LOL!!
Guys like Joe Johnson, Steve Nash, Gilbert Arenas, hell Ricky Rubio have all ADMITTED to how the new rules have SIGNIFICANTLY impacted the production of today's perimeter players LOL!!
Rubio said it was EASIER LOL!!
Where were all of these high scoring perimeter players B4 the implementation of the new rules?
Nowhere!!
The # of 'em in the Top 20 in scoring jumped from 3 to 11 after this happened LOL!!
blackadam06 1 day ago
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@blackadam06 try answering this first. did u do your google search? tell me what did google show u? LOL. stupid homer. draft class 92 was shaq not 93. lets see how well u know your hero, what draft class is your hero michael jordan? and which draft class is the best ever?
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch
And U can also keep your Eric Gordon's of the world as well, because I'll take a prime Gary Payton ANY DAY over him.
He's gonna give me about the SAME amount of pts, plus better apg, rpg & spg #s, not to mention he was more efficient & a MUCH BETTER defender..
He was simply just a more well rounded player...
blackadam06 1 day ago
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@blackadam06 did u do your google search? tell me what did google show u? LOL. stupid homer. draft class 92 was shaq not 93. lets see how well u know your hero, what draft class is your hero michael jordan? and which draft class is the best ever?
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
@imsljr420 hey dude can i ask u something. what draft class was michael jordan? i want to know how well u know your hero.
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch : 84...& how is he "my hero"? im a fan & he is my favorite player but that doesn't make him my hero
imsljr420 1 day ago
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@bruc3b1tch : 84...& how is he "my hero"? im a fan & he is my favorite player but that doesn't make him my hero.
imsljr420 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch : 84..how is he "my hero"?
imsljr420 1 day ago
@imsljr420 ok good. last question, what draft class was shaq?
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
@imsljr420 because blckadm said shaq was from 93 draft class. and defends his claim by saying it was 92-93 season. so by his logic mj was 85 drftclass. because he played 84-85 season. how stupid can your friend be? he cant even acknowledge his own mistake. LOL
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch
Once again...Shaq's rookie season was the SAME season MJ & CHI won their 3rd consecutive title.
So please genius, please enlighten us as to what season that was...
blackadam06 1 day ago
@blackadam06 mj was from class 85? because he was drafted 84. but it was 84-85 season right? great. now we know jordan was from 85 draft class. LOL.. hahaha.. stupid jordan fan. doesnt even know what draft class jordan was. GTFOH! LMAO
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch HEYY!!! WHAT YEAR WAS SHAQ DRAFTED, GOT YOU!!!!! HA HAH!!!!!
A DERRRR!!! A DERRRR!!!!
bwink23 23 hours ago
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@bruc3b1tch
"stupid jordan fan. doesnt even know what draft class jordan was"
I know what class he's from moron....now answer my question: what "season" was Shaq's rookie season?
I'm still waiting for answer...
blackadam06 16 hours ago
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@blackadam06 mj was from class 85? because he was drafted 84. but it was 84-85 season right? great. now we know jordan was from 85 draft class. LOL.. hahaha.. stupid jordan fan. doesnt even know what draft class jordan was. GTFOH! LMAO
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
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@blackadam06 mj was from class 85? because he was drafted 84. but it was 84-85 season right? great. now we know jordan was from 85 draft class. LOL.. hahaha.. stupid jordan fan. doesnt even know what draft class jordan was. GTFOH! LMAO this is the reason why BWINK is dodging. he always ends up having his butt kicked! hahaha
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
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@blackadam06 mj was from class 85? because he was drafted 84. but it was 84-85 season right? great. now we know jordan was from 85 draft class. LOL.. hahaha.. stupid jordan fan. doesnt even know what draft class jordan was. GTFOH! LMAO this is the reason why BWINK is dodging. he always ends up having his butt kicked! butt unlike him, u seem 2 b enjoying it! hahaha
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
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@imsljr420 because blckadm said shaq was from 93 draft class. and defends his claim by saying it was 92-93 season. so by his logic mj was 85 drftclass. because he played 84-85 season. how stupid can your friend be? he cant even acknowledge his own mistake. LOL
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch TRANS-boy, you have literally re-posted "Shaq's draft class" 15 damn times. YOU SOUND LIKE AN ELEMENTARY TRANS-school boy when you debate....DRAFT CLASS = IRRELEVANT....Shaq played in 1993, and that's the POINT that was being made.
You have a habit of taking meaningless points and running away with them, stuff that's irrelevant and a waste of time, just cuz it wasn't worded EXACTLY right...
my 11-year old has more sense than you do...and he doesn't wear eye shadow.
bwink23 23 hours ago
@imsljr420
" if hawkins played now he be a superstar."
Exactly...
He managed to make the All Star Team (in a defensive era) and he wasn't even the primary (or secondary) scorer for his team LOL!!
blackadam06 1 day ago
@bruc3b1tch
I'll take Chris Mullin, Mitch Richmond, Latrell Sprewell, Glen Rice & Dominique Wilkins over Hinrich, Mobley, J. Terry, D. Anderson & M. Ellis any day of the week, and I'm sure any reputable NBA prognosticator would too..
It's sad that U think U can just make claims that MJ competed against nobodies, and that'll magically make it so, just so U can prop kobe up over him...SMH
Morons like U are a joke, because any novice fan could QUICKLY debunk your ignorant ass claims..
blackadam06 1 day ago
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@blackadam06 did u do your google search? tell me what did google show u? LOL. stupid homer. draft class 92 was shaq not 93. lets see how well u know your hero, what draft class is your hero michael jordan? and which draft class is the best ever?
bruc3b1tch 1 day ago
@tiger1649 : i watched kobe's greatest games & they are WEAK....i was just laughing at the weak defense jalen rose had to play on him. backing away so they don't call a ticky tack foul on him.
imsljr420 1 day ago
@imsljr420 I DIDN'T MATTER WHO WAS ON HIM THAT NIGHT, WHEN YOU ARE SHOOTING WITH THE RANGE HE WAS SHOOTING IT WOULDN'T MATTER! LIKE WHAT ((DIRK SAID))) WHEN KOBE KILLED THEM, HE SAID WE PUT (((EVERY)) BODY ON HIM BUT (((IT WASN'T NOTHING WE COULD DO)))! HE'S THE GREATEST PERFORMER AND SCORER IN HISTORY AND YOU KNOW IT! PERIOD!
tiger1649 1 day ago
@tiger1649
" I DIDN'T MATTER WHO WAS ON HIM"
Go tell that to the 2008-10 Celtics LOL!!
blackadam06 1 day ago
@blackadam06 YOU GO AND TELL THE 2010 CELTS KOBE SHOT 6/ 24! BUT (((AFTER THINKING)) ABOUT THE 4TH QTR WHEN KOBE CLOSED THEM OUT , THEY WOULD TELL YOU TO SHUT UP, PLEASE WITH ALL THAT ((STATICAL)) GARBARGE! PERIOD!
tiger1649 1 day ago
@tiger1649
Kobe didn't close shit out in the 4th qtr U moron...Pau did!
Kobe was a COMBINED 11-36 (30%) in ALL of the 4th qtrs that series, so GTFOH with that bullsh*t LOL!!
blackadam06 1 day ago
@blackadam06 SO WHO WAS GOAT BEFORE JORDAN? AND IN GAME 7 WHEN THE SCORE WAS 64/64 KOBE HAD 5 STRAIGHT RBS NOT PAU, KOBE SCORED THE NEXT 4 POINTS, NOT PAU, ((GAVE )) PAU A ASIST FOR TWO MORE POINTS AND LAKERS 70/64, THEN THE CLINCHER ASIST TO ARTEST GAME OVER, AND KOBE SCORED 10 PT'S IN THE 4TH QTR! NOT PAU! PLUS PAU MISSED THE FT'S AT CRUNCHTIME, THEY GAVE HIM A BASKET WHEN HE MADE THAT SHOT LATE IN THE GAME! SO GO LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT BB BEFORE YOU THINK ABOUT DEBATING ME! PERIOD
tiger1649 1 day ago
@tiger1649
"SO WHO WAS GOAT BEFORE JORDAN?"
1st of all there's NO SUCH THING as the GOAT, only the best at their respective position(s).
But the 1 guy who was considered that at that time, was Kareem.
"GO LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT BB BEFORE YOU THINK ABOUT DEBATING ME!"
Hahahahahahaha***wiping my eyes***Hahahahahahaha
That's a good one LOL!!
blackadam06 1 day ago
@tiger1649 : i was also referring to your kobe "lockdown" defense videos that you always recommend, they're pathetic.
imsljr420 1 day ago
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@tiger1649
"LBJ, VC OR JORDAN'S ARCHIVE IS WEAK COMPARED TO KOBES"
Nope...
"THOSE GAMES I ALWAYS MENTION ARE GREAT AND CAN BE SEEN AS THAT!"
Nope...
blackadam06 1 day ago
Kobe's Best defensive year was in 2002/03 smh not 08
MegaSplash1 2 days ago
you're*
MegaSplash1 2 days ago
Wupps Did I say Scoring? I meant 'Stealing' Let me say that again.
Kobe is ranked 17th on the all-time steals list. MJ and 2nd Stockton at 1st.
MegaSplash1 2 days ago
@MegaSplash1
You'll find on MANY b-ball forums that most other NBA fans REALLY don't care for the average kobe fan, because of the juvenile "cult of ignorance" they OFTEN exhibit.
There's a strain of anti facts/evidence/intellectualism that runs DEEP throughout their cliques, and their sentiments are nurtured by this childish notion of "my ignorance is just as good as your intelligence" or facts.
MANY are seriously put off by it and find offensive, and is why most fans are hostile towards 'em..
blackadam06 3 days ago
@blackadam06 DAM!! THAT'S SOME DEEP INTELLECTUAL SHIT! WHAT'S YOUR PROFESSION? ARE YOU A PHYCHOLOGIST? WHERE YOU GO WRONG IS FACTS,INTELLECTUALISM AND DEFINATELY EVIDENCE! BUT YOU WOULD HAVE MORE CREDIBILITY IF YOU COULD ((SHOW)) ALL THIS TO BE TRUE! SO HOLD OFF WITH ALL THE PSYCH HYPE TALK AND SHOW WHAT YOU MEAN! MAKE IT EASIER FOR THE FANS WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND LIKE ME! NOW YOU CAN PUT THE PIN DOWN AND GET OUT THE PROJECTOR AND DEMONSTRATE! LET'S START WITH MJ'S BETTER DPOY,D !PD
tiger1649 3 days ago
@tiger1649 try again dumb fuck your stupidity knows no bounds
sopa71479 3 days ago
@tiger1649 Kobe has never even averaged 2 steals per game dumbass,let alone 1 block.
Jordan has done both,and then some! Eat it! The stats and videos show,Michael was not only offensively better (Maybe With the exception of Threes) but is defensively better as well. MJ is the complete package.
Kobe's highs are 1.9 and 0.9
Mj's highs are 3.2 and 1.6 (steals,blocks)
MegaSplash1 3 days ago
@MegaSplash1 WHEN YOU PLAY SOLID MAN DEFENSE THE WAY KOBE DID IN HIS PRIME HE DIDN'T NEED TO ROME OFF HIS MAN! WHEN YOU CHECK TOP SCORERS LIKE A AI OR T MAC LEADING SCORERS YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO ROME, BUT WHEN YOU CHECK WEAK OFFENSIVE PLAYERS YOU CAN, LIKE JORDAN! SHOW ME A GAURD WHERE JORDAN CHECKED A PLAYER FOR AT LEAST A QTR MONO TO MONO! COACHES DON'T TEACH STEALING THE BALL BECAUSE IT'S NOT SOLID DEFENSE BECAUSE YOU GET BURNED LIKE (((KOBE DID TO JORDAN)) ON THIS VID! PERIOD!
tiger1649 2 days ago
@tiger1649 Your a dumbass,look on youtube. Plenty of videos for you to watch.
MegaSplash1 2 days ago
@MegaSplash1 THE DUMBASS IS THE ONE WHO CAN'T (((SHOW ANYTHING))) AND WE KNOW THE REAL JACKASS! LOOK SOME OF YOUR WORST MAN DEFENDERS HAVE MANY STEALS THE BEST EXAMPLE WAS THE ALLTIME LEADING STEAL PLAYER JOHN STOCKTON! ((PITIFUL MAN DEFENDER)))! SO THIS IN ITSELF SHOW YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT! WAS STOCKTON A BETTER DEFENDER THAN KOBE? PERIOD!
tiger1649 2 days ago
@tiger1649 Your a dumbass. Stockton was just better at coming up with steals,obviously.
MegaSplash1 2 days ago
@tiger1649 I don't have to show you anything,you never show me anything other than your biased reasoning,you don't even bother to look at the whole picture. You really contradict,how is it that some so called 'pitful' defender comes up with so many steals huh?
I guess he would have to be good at 'stealing' in order to do so! face it! stockton managed to rack up more steals than Kobe and MJ. But 1 thing that separates MJ from stockton is blocks. Same with Kobe.
MegaSplash1 2 days ago
@tiger1649 It would be impossible for a 'pitful' man defender,to come up with so many steals. Stockton was exploited sometimes yes,but who isn't? You see players blowing by just about anyone. I guess that makes them 'pitful' man defenders too.
Really though,someone with 'pitful' man defense manages to rack so many steals? In that case they must not even be 'pitful' to begin with!
QUOTE:"Stockton was known for his unassuming, no-nonsense approach to the game, hard-nosed defense."
MegaSplash1 2 days ago
@tiger1649 It must be so PAINFUL for a kobetard to admit someone bests their hero kobe bryant at ANYTHING.
Even though,the evidence is RIGHT IN YOUR FUCKING FACE.
Stockton leads in steals,I'm not afraid to say he was the better at coming up with steals. But YOU KOBETARDS on the other hand,would rather come up with a million excuses as to why he managed so many.
MegaSplash1 2 days ago
@MegaSplash1 THIS IS WHAT I JUST RESEARCHED KOBE VS JORDAN 6 GAMES HEAD TO HEAD KOBE SCORED MORE POINTS , WON MORE GAMES, KOBE BLOCKED, STOLE THE BALL,AND DUNKED ON JORDAN! EVEN AT 18 HE SCORED 53 POINT'S PLAYING OFF THE BENCH AND FAR LESS MINUTES THAN JORDAN, BUT THE GAME THAT WILL BE ETCHED IN STONE WAS THE 55 POINT HUMILIATION AND EMBARRASSMENT AT STAPLES AT JORDANS OWN RETIRMENT PARTY! HEAD TO HEAD KOBE KILLED JORDAN! AND PIPPEN HIS WHOLE CAREER! TWO MORE NOTCHES ON HIS BELT!PD
tiger1649 2 days ago
@tiger1649 2 of those games Kobe is not responsible for (When he scored merely 5 points lmao)
55 points vs an old person going into retirement isn't an amazing feat dumbass..fap to that video all you want though.
Jordan and Kobe played 8 games against each other btw. lmao You not counting the first 2? typical!
And at age 18/19 Kobe met the jazz and got SWEPT TWICE. Guess who won the finals?
Oh and they are 3-3 if you don't count the 2 that Kobe FAILED in. (Back to back 5 points)
MegaSplash1 2 days ago
@tiger1649 What I researched was OVERALL IN THEIR MATCHUPS MJ scored 196 points > Kobe scored 182 COUNTING EVERY matchup,except all star games I believe. Even then the gap got a little BIGGER.
MJ vs KOBE MJ as a bull vs Kobe when scoring is 124 > 63. AS an OLD ASS WIZARD.
Jordan scored 72 points(MORE THAN YOUNG KOBE) Kobe scored 119 points,against an OLD MJ. But EVEN THEN 124 > 119 LMAO!
MegaSplash1 2 days ago
@tiger1649 But I'm using Kobetard logic,and am going to act as if every point was scored against kobe. lmao! That sounds accurate right? lol!
MegaSplash1 2 days ago
@tiger1649 Did I mention at age 18 Kobe did nothing in the playoffs? Wait I did? Oh yeah,they got swept the fuck out.
MegaSplash1 2 days ago