American football - Never meant

[loejewis]

Yeah this isn't even the start of a music video. It's a guy sitting down, walking, then talking on the phone, then walking a bit more.

[deathcabpickups]

this is deep stoner, relax, have sex on the beach music... emo has been ruined by black hair and makeup and screaming.. so now this is called "deep stoner, relax, have sex on the beach music"

[BusquedaBlues]

@deathcabpickups

"ruined by lack hair and make up"

I agree.

"and screaming"

Nah, have you listened to emo other than American Football?

[TNTcOOl78]

Emo use to be soooooooo cool until now :(

[thelivingsped]

Why are you wearing a hat in the summer?

[cludo88]

id say its math rock

[bowiediamond]

DID YOU MAKE IT HOME IN TIME FOR DINNER? HOPE SO COZ YR MOM WOULD HAVE BEEN PISSED HAR HAR HAR

[nlo13]

It's either 6/4 or 12/4. take your pick.

[FIRETHESAURUSMUSIC]

6/4

[Snodgers3rdclass]

the old camera gives it class

[jakekarlson]

way to steal the name of a good song and put it as the name of your crappy video

[gomashedpotatoes]

balls-we trip them

[NoImNotDown]

one of the most beautiful songs of all time, in my book anyway.

[pslopez7]

the beat sounds like 4/3 (is that possible?) seems like it goes to 4/4 at 2:14

[BohemianAle]

@pslopez7 i think its in 3/4

[zekiel777]

@pslopez7 from what i gathered it was in 3 counts of 4 (12/4) thats just me though

[pslopez7]

@zekiel777 yeah something like that i think. lets see if i know how to explain myself.

its like 1-2-3-4, 1-2-3-4, 1-2-3-4, and then again the same process. so it would be 3 counts of 4 instead of the usual 4 times 4.

'i could juuust forgeeeeeeet' = 1-2-3-4, 1-2-3-4, 1-2-3-4.

'everything saaaiiiiid' = 1-2-3-4, 1-2-3-4, 1-2-3-4.

hahah i might be making a fool of myself.

im guessing the drum beat also makes it harder to analyse.

[Cryokidd]

@pslopez7 4/3? By that I'm going to assume you mean something like 4 beats per measure, dotted quarter/half note gets the beat - and if so, yeah it's possible, although it's really just a matter of phrasing when you get that specific (like dividing 6/8 into a sort of "2 / dotted quarter note" time)

I'd call it 6/4 (grouped as 4+2/4), with the occasional common time.

[sizzlacir]

@thisdisease777

this is really emo, this band is considered "emo" along with cap'n jazz, sunny day real estate and many other sick bands, emo now is just shit.

[notyoursavior78]

@sizzlacir

Yeah just because emo is a mainstream slur word now that equates a lot to its awful fashion, many of us do remember when emo (emocore) wasn't about dressing one way. It was just expressing the way you felt in a deeper and honest way. The screaming was also often more measured.

[JennVOGUE]

so enjoyable, this band. by golly.

[EddieUV777]

Just so everyone knows. I will be getting a new camera soon. I will make a new rendition of this video. As well as others. I plan to do a video for "Sharks Keep Moving - Join Up".

[thisdisease777]

everyone thinks this is really emo cuz the kid in the vid dresses like it kinda but whatever you wanna call it i like, it reminds me of die radio die [:

[EddieUV777]

@thisdisease777 Good point, look I don't get on here and post much. I have to say, Don't let the guy in the video discourage you from it being an Emo. I was in a band with him and it was a metal band. We are all people and chose to dress how we want. How we dress shouldn't come in to play for anything. Certainly should not be a deciding factor in the music we chose to like.

[xBillyTheKidx]

@EddieUV777 not to be a dick, but that kid, judging by the way he dresses here, looks like he listens to like coal chamber and system of a down and shit.

im just saying, the kids where i went to school who listened to those bands, dressed like that. there's nothing wrong with the way a person dresses, but look it's just a fact, if you pay attention, you can figure out what a person is probably into for the most part just by how they dress.

this band is amazing though.

[thecomfortisnow]

@thisdisease777  i love die radio die. :(

[garrettgleason]

ohmygod everyone should shut up about whether this is emo or indie.

both are underground and for the most part not really radio-friendly or popular. whatever THEY consider THEMSELVES to be, it's phenomenal. love this mathy indie movement that's going on

[benaltdrum]

Hey everyone, i did a drum cover of this song, just put it up recently, have a gander if youve got afew spare seconds!

[noobz0r]

VeryLowBudgetFilms is an idiot, this is probably the most influential emo band of their day. beautiful stuff.

[Br1ga]

for all u stupid ppl out there this is not EMO ....emo music has no talent ...they are Indie Rock they have talent and if u think diffrent u shuold go hang yourself becuz u have no clue

[TheJohnnyGoldman]

It's beautiful, simply beautiful. Everything is magnificently written, you can call it as you want it but I think that it's just music.

[YouGotSandInYoVagina]

Even then, scene kids have moved on from the false emo. They now listen to deathcore. Anyway, I loved S. D. R. E.'s "Diary", "Flatland Spider", and "Thief...". I'm listening to this song now and I love it. Is this American Football's best album?

[laxwarrior64]

yes it is. and have you listened to the song Seven by SDRE?

[YouGotSandInYoVagina]

@laxwarrior64 Of course! The singles are back to back to in the beginning, to get you familiar with their style, I think. You listen to "Flatland Spider"? It's like hardcore S. D. R. E.

[nwcrouch]

It's the only one they ever made, sadly! They had a three track e.p as well that's worth grabbing, they're both on amazon last I checked and if you're a fan of this song then it would be ridiculous not to snap them both up. Listening to the album front to back when you're in a chillout mood, for me at least, is just ultimate win : )

[YouGotSandInYoVagina]

@nwcrouch The album was great. I'm still listening to it, actually. Definite purchase. I'll be sure to check out the E. P., bro.

[nwcrouch]

@YouGotSand That's awesome, man! If you're interested in anything more, you should look up "Owen", if you haven't heard of it it's the pseudonym for the solo work of AM's lead singer, Mike Kinsella, who's still active. Without the drums and bass of AM reigning him in his songwriting isn't always as focused, but still the next best thing.

[iTzShakenJoE]

i love this song, i think this band has song great songs....i listen to u guys alot

[Ibanez2546]

6/4? cant u count the riff that repeats in 6 quarter notes. hmm i dont even know but i love this song

[geoffcabforcutie]

I think the guitar riff is in 12/8, the drums are doing a swing-type thing approaching 3/8, but the entire thing is pretty much in 12/8

[butterskotchgeetar18]

ya neil young is EMO in a sense and if this is EMO then i like it but that gay ass shits GOTTA go aka pink hair primped to perfection and eye liner

[geoffcabforcutie]

there's a difference between scene and emo.

[thinedoor2]

This song stuns me every time I hear it. Something must have happened at the time of this recording that helped make it such a poignant distillation of life's tender, aching mysteries.

[SelfRevolution37]

lol

[GoblueStoll]

i wish EMO would have stayed this way....instead of turning into a fashion statement...and yes this is emo......this is the type of music that bred gay EMO

[BleedingSunday]

how is this hardcore?

[GoblueStoll]

i didnt say anything about hardcore son

[BleedingSunday]

Then tell me, how is this emo?

Or am i talking to one who thinks emo stands for emotionaL?

[nwcrouch]

"Emo" as a genre means a lot of different things to a lot of different people, the term's been around since the late 80's when it originally described a form of hardcore punk that turned the rage and fury inwards, making it less anger at the world and more introspective, personal, 'emotional' (although really all music conveys an emotion innit). Since then, emo has come to be used, never by the artists themselves, to cover many different scenes. Have a butcher's at wikipedia for more : )

[BleedingSunday]

well thank you sherlock..

[nwcrouch]

You're welcome, dear watson. I sort of figured that "how is this emo?" wasn't a rhetorical question, sorry if it was.

[BleedingSunday]

It was, but im sure other people will read it, might help them :)

[RockingChicken]

Finally a person that knows exactly what theyre talking about

[shizzle31]

@GoblueStoll no, your fucking EMO, if you think this is EMO, faggot.

[Snodgers3rdclass]

@shizzle31 kinda is lol idiot its 90's emo

[unicornfears]

@shizzle31 fuck you homophobe

[VeryLowBudgetFilms]

@unicornfears fuck faggots, this isnt emo its fuckin indie rock u fudgepackers

[unicornfears]

@VeryLowBudgetFilms I do not give a fuck if you think this is emo or indie rock. You are a homophobe and you should fuck off. I'm sure no decent indie or emo band would want support from an asshole like you.

[VeryLowBudgetFilms]

@unicornfears i dont give a fuck if your name is unicornfears XD dude calm down, just pull the dick out of your asshole and you wont be pissed off anymore. Seriously just cause i say faggot doesnt mean im a homophobe. enjoy the music. It's indie by the way

[unicornfears]

@VeryLowBudgetFilms First of all, I am a girl. Secondly, there are no dicks making me pissed off here apart from you. Faggot is a homophobic word. Stop using homosexuality as an insult. I do enjoy the music, I just don't enjoy you putting your hate speech all over it.

[allansak]

@GoblueStoll Im with you Man!!

[deezstack]

@GoblueStoll "gay"

[leberjr]

its not 5/4

[ninjafrank1337]

Oh man, that 5/4 time signature. :D

[metalcore929]

It's in 4/4. Some of the syncopation and accents give it a different feel though.

[ninjafrank1337]

Ah, yeah. Listening to it again, I have no idea why I thought it was 5/4. xD

[SelfRevolution37]

because you wanted to be pretentious. no one ever does a 5/4 beat ever. ever.

[charlieenders]

yeah because odd time signatures are so gay and pretentious. suck a dick.

[ninjafrank1337]

Well technically speaking, nobody wants to be pretentious, it's what they seem to be when they try to be intelligent.

And bull fucking shit, I use 5/4 all the time.

It's my favorite time signature as a matter of fact.

[cardarmed]

i take it you've never heard of the song take five by paul desmond

[ashoema0]

Can't forget Dave Brubeck in there, son!

[BoratBastard]

I think it's 12/8. Or 6/8. Even listen to the count in: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 drumsticks.

[ccolestameyy]

Love this not going to lie

[stoplying]

Great song. I wish I could have jammed with these cats.

[backseatdriversyo]

"you cant miss what you forget"

one of the best songs ever made

[miguelgiorgis]

Hey, this album is great. Every song is meaningful. I love these guys.

[eagledynasty81]

this is actually not that bad.

[notyoursavior78]

not that, bad? Infact it is that good ;)

[backseatdriversyo]

not that bad?, its fucking fantastic

[TwilyXD]

I like the instrumental side, but after when the vocals kick in it kind of kills it for me. For some reason the singer reminds of someone with a lisp.

[guitarplayingcat]

lol i have heard very many people say that the singer sounds like he has a lisp. Regardless, I think American Football was a success, and I will continue to listen and appreciate their music throughout the years.

[andrewjrus]

If you guys like this you shoud check out Appleseed Cast. They sound similar and are really good. My buddy interned for their label down in Orange County.

[emmerton]

man, everyone who watch this videos knows them

[GMRghost]

The Appleseed Cast are really good but they sound nothing like American Football. If you like these guys, check out other Kinsella stuff...Owls/Cap'n Jazz/Joan of Arc.

[MadmanAcrossTheWater]

i don't think you know what pretentious means.

[ilovethesechords]

Taking it upon yourself to assume we'd find you pretentious, and then taking action based on your assumption, is pretentious. For some one to make a show of their knowledge, that would make them a pedant. (like me ;)

[crassisdead]

What you just said is pretentious.

[ilovethesechords]

damn.. I hate trying to sound educated lol

[stringsnreflections]

finished or not, this thing SUCKS

[caseydarko]

it saddens me that most the guys my age can't appreciate music like this.

they seem to think it's "pussy shit," and then they compare it to dashboard confessional's "stolen."

if only I could find a guy who listened to REAL music, like american football and cap'n jazz, instead of trying to be all hard and ..manly (?)

;(

[y2jayjk]

Well..you have found me :)

[bbeaup]

Agreed. Don't worry man, it's just a defense mechanism for most guys.

[posc323]

i agree with you

i used to listen to old school emo music like sunny day real estate and 1.6 band

im more into hardcore punk rock but 90's emo music was pretty good if u ask me

i still like this song and i do have a sensitive side

just had to stop listening to this type of music cuz i got too soft and sensitive

[EddieUV777]

You guys couldn't be more right. I love this kind of music. It's a softer side of music. But, oh well...

[notyoursavior78]

I listen to harder music, but this is softer music that you can't be embarrassed to like. I proudly support this band and similar ones.

[bbeaup]

dude, i've seen your name on youtube recently, I swear!! I wanna say an underoath vid?

[jontronhaha]

the guitar is way too inticing to turn down.

[VeryLowBudgetFilms]

@posc323 k this isnt fuckin emo, its 90's indie

[xBillyTheKidx]

@posc323 1.6?

that a band? is there a link?

[posc323]

@xBillyTheKidx Oh you can check em out on myspace or itunes

they're not well known

they're more like hardcore punk

[beppe77a]

i just think it's best

cause you can't miss what you forget

[robs70986987]

I always thought this was an emosideproject song, it turns out he just covered it

I have heard his version a million times

its strange to hear the full version

its an awesome song

[sonnyjimsonnjim]

i wish these guys were still around. better than that slut whore miley cyrus or those biblebashing faggot boys jonas brothers any day.

[jesuslivesinmytoilet]

Jesus man, chill the fuck out haha

[StandardofPurity]

Dont you mean biblethumping

[sonnyjimsonnjim]

nar mate its called biblebashing in england.

[StandardofPurity]

Oh my bad

[ctdjazz]

Yeah but good luck getting the kids to buy into it. I love the LP too, it is astounding. I used to listen to it in the stock room at my old job (working at a clothing store with late teen-20 something females abound) and usually the comments I got were things like "...so when are they going to sing?" It doesn't really compute.

And as we all know, popular music is up to girls.

Everyone here needs to grab this album... forget downloads, order it from Polyvinyl. You'll want the tangible copy.

[GeorgeMellllow]

Haha American Football's a bad name for a band, it took me forever to get here :p

[BinkyStalls]

ROFL! I know what you mean. I found these dudes by accident. Good song too.

[notyoursavior78]

On the contrary the name helped me get into the band because I love "American" football haha I'm big on sports and music!

[sonnyjimsonnjim]

lol. so true.

[6epeiii]

thanks! one of my favorite tracks, one of my favorite bands, nice work !

[modestmm]

Oh and there s "Motorpsycho - Jane" from Norway and "beezewax - In the stands " also from Norway

and "Starmarket - Losing" from Sweden , and "Revolvo - Silver streak" from Sweden might also wanna check out bad cash quartett from sweden and kung fu girls from norway , think you can buy kung fu girls' album on itunes (not to be mistaken by kung fu girls from usa )

[brootalbreakdown93]

thank you pete!

[GRIMISING]

OO MAN THESE GUYS ARE GOOD WOO!! just makes me want to chill out

[caliboy230]

if you liked this check out "minus the bear", "the fire theft", "sunny day real estate", and anything by jeremy enigk

[EddieUV777]

+1 on Minus The Bear

[notyoursavior78]

+1 on Sunny Day Real Estate

[deadtoof]

where are you getting these bands from... love them all... how are they connected in any way...

[caseydarko]

there's a huge connection with '90s emo bands. especially because of tim and mike kinsella

[cooperl24]

look mexico is similar to these guys too

[deriik2020]

Always really liked this song. Good mood music I guess.

[Eziobooga]

great band! you should try out 'this town needs guns', similar band

[Pinchoro]

where can I get this album? any torrents?

[modestmm]

anyone know of any great bands like this that are hard to comeby ? , love this sound , send me a msg

[thylich]

try "toe" from japan

[ganstamannirvana93]

Sunny Day Real Estate, Christie Front Drive, Mineral, Jejune, Owen, Cap'n Jazz, The Appleseed Cast for classic Post-Emo that is similar to this. For new bands check out Empire! Empire! (I was a Lonely Estate), Moving Mountains, Algernon Cadwallader(sory of like a more up-beat version of this band), Joie De Vivre and This Town Needs Guns.

[notyoursavior78]

Empire Empire is awesome! I'll vouch for that. Sunny Day Real Estate (with Bad Religion) are my favorite bands of all time!

[ganstamannirvana93]

Yeah SDRE is actually my favourite band of all time, The Rising Tide and LP2 are AMAZING. For a band that sounds like Empire! Empire! check out Joie De Vivre they're awesome.

[notyoursavior78]

Dude you rock! Yeah SDRE is incredible! I love the LP2 , I really love Diary since it has some of the best songs ever!

"How it Feels to be Something On"

Ok we now covered thier albums!

[fishniw]

thx for the list. i found one a band that sounds more like american football than anyone i've ever heard. penpalmusic com. let me know what you think

[TomReeseqazwsx]

Rites Of Spring?

[ganstamannirvana93]

What about them, they don't sound like this band, although they are awesome.

[TomReeseqazwsx]

lol, you were naming bands so i thought i might as well throw them in there

[ganstamannirvana93]

Oh ok haha, Not really the same type of music though haha.

[fishniw]

oh, you didn't think penpal sounded like them? huh, i thought it was very similar

[ganstamannirvana93]

Oh, shit man I forgot about your comment. I loved that Penpal band, very similar indeed. It sucks though because after I downloaded the album, I listened to one track and really liked it so I tried to listen to more and it wouldn't let me for some reason. If the rest of the songs were as or almost as good as the first song I would proabaly buy that album.

I was actually talking about Rites of Spring, and I think we can both agree that they don't sound much like American Football.

[fishniw]

yeah for sure lol. yeah the whole cd is great that's weird the download didn't work for you. i dont think its on itunes or anything i'd just try downloading it again but i can upload it to mediafire or something if it doesn work

[notyoursavior78]

I think sometimes I find some pretty obscure music but I just downloaded that Penpal album off the website which is basically just one picture and it says "click here to download."

I'm only on the second song, but it's cool. How does somebody find a band like this? ;)

[guitarplayingcat]

I found this band a long long time ago, while looking at a guitar forum... Been in love with them ever since. Never met anyone who has heard of them besides from me. best band ever.

[1223dude1223]

yeah im realy liking that penpal band too. its unfortunte for us i cant upload it to youtube. heck maybe even unfortunet for them. its good publicity/

[notyoursavior78]

Maybe I'll upload a song from it sometime.

[jontronhaha]

i dont know many bands like this, but..iffins i were you id definately check out this town needs guns, their alot more upbeat in comparison, but the guitars.woah.

[ninjafrank1337]

Tubelord is good too. They may not have as complex melodies, but they're really catchy and energetic.

[mwmalecky]

Algernon is pretty much Cap'n Jazz if Mike did more songwriting than Tim. It's perfect.

[LoveRooster]

what a great song, great band, really wish i had discovered them years ago!! Unreal

[tjforizzleyeeeeah]

ha is the rest of this alum this good?

[Guitarist132]

yes

[notyoursavior78]

This is a great song and a cool start to the video. I coulda sworn, I commented in here before, but I didn't. I absolutely love this band and just played this cd less than a hour ago.

[cesareo12]

Thanks for upload the best American Football song. If only the guy of the video didnt look like an ..emo..

[EddieUV777]

Wow this guy is a jackass.

[toymachinesk83r]

youre fucking retarded.

never open your mouth ever

[XCRunner88]

This song is so sad. I love it, though.

[Emanusmell123]

Yes THank you!

[sonnyjimsonnjim]

god i wish they were still about. theyd kick jonas brothers ass any day.....

[toymachinesk83r]

You dont deserve to be on the internet

[solemnpears]

HAHA what a funny comment.

LOVE this band.

[cesareo12]

You doesnt deserve to be on the planet earth if you really think what you wrote

[computernerddd]

What??? Music video that YOU are making??

[eld4nt3]

Let's just forget

That American Football broke up.

[worldsocialismdotorg]

because you cant miss what you forget.

[carlellement]

so true

[kevin04scotland]

I've got that down as my favourite quote!

So sad and true at the same time.

American Football, 10 years since they broke up :(

[GayOTKSpankFest]

Zzz uper!

[Spiritualizedr]

久しぶりに聞きました。

やっぱりいいですね。

[StzaCrizzack]

i know right?

i totally agree

[toymachinesk83r]

thats what i was thinking