As a former catholic & now completely converted to nothing, I know that the church still counts me as an adherent somewhere in thr statistics. Mildly annoying, but I think they might be starting to figure out that all those believers out there r no longer out there as churches start to shut down & the remaining flock dies off. I dont have an axe to grind with the church, but RCs r required to believe in far too much magic, none of which makes any sense in hindsight.
@atheistrocker100 He probably didn't debate him because he believes that the creationist mind will not take on board any scientific explanations or reasoning. Trying to reason with a creationist is like trying to reason with a cat.
@atheistrocker100 Ok whatever you win, I don't really know enough about William Lane Craig to be able to say anything. But I think that debating at a religious level can be really tedious because many theists (and Atheists) simply won't accept the other view no matter how much reasoning is pumped into it. Put simply, the fight against irrational theistic reasoning is an un-winnable fight, one that Dawkins decided not to partake in on a debating level. Does that make him a coward?
It has been proven over & over again to be impossible and not a single piece of evidence for evolution has ever been presented that wasn't later dis proven by honest uncorrupted science.
Real scientists have been trying to prove the theory of evolution & after 140 yrs they are still trying.
They are like a blind man in a dark basement looking for a black cat - that isn't there.
Evolution is dead
It's death just hasn't been reported to the obituary section yet.
I'd like to think that we are born good and innocent and somehow society fucks us up or pushes our buttons by the absence of a healthy economy or education., that its more nurture than nature, though I do not deny a minimum involvement in the latter. But to assert that nature, that is to say, that we are born damned, and the absence of a curing god or baptism, is responsible for all the evil in the world, is such an inhumane, absurd, medieval, archaic, ignorant, suffering perpetuating nonsense.
Would Hitler have rose to power if everyone was christian.. No. Ratzingers point is that when humanity looses touch with love and peace then terrible things can happen. I havent heard the speech myself but im guessing the pope didnt literally say "becuse of atheists, hitler happened."
@soOodAkAh I didnt say that. My point is that if everyone lived by christian morals then we would not have this kind of problem. Love and peace are central parts of christianity, im not saying that atheists dont know what love and peace are but most atheists dont put their knowledge into pracice very well.
@sksk1995 Well, let me tell you that "most religious people don't put their knowledge into practice very well" either. Christians, if you want to go there, have killed and slaughtered anyone that didn't have the same beliefs (even other christians), persecuted artists, scientifics, anyone that didn't fit in their ideals of "love and peace"... I never said atheism makes you good or bad, you did. You have a blind faith, my friend, to still believe that christianism makes people good and tolerant.
@sksk1995 And if you look it up in some History books, you'll see that a lot of christians helped Hitler to get to power. In a 90% catholic country like Spain, Franco stayed as dictator for 40 years, and every girl that was born had to be called "Maria". Chile, Argentina, Uruguay, Brazil, all very christian dictatorships, all the generals going to church and stuff, look up for how many deaths. So I don't think you're being relevant here. Christians are people, and the world is not black & white
@soOodAkAh Wouldnt you say that a lot of the votes for a dictator are based on fear and not agreement. And these are christians that are not practicing what they preach, my point is that it is dangerous for humanity to lose touch with the values that christianity is based on. I accept that lots of christians are bad.
sksk1995 ASKS, "Are you saying the catholic church is responsible for the holocaust ?"
>Not exactly, but allow me to be blunt in sharing historical fact and universal truth.
The Vatican led papal Caesar dynasty Crusades ("heretic" burning religious genocide/inquisitions) of the papacy's (biblical anti-christ) Dark & Middle Ages have never ceased. They are still being carried out under the guise of "War".
So-called "Holocaust" was orchestrated by Rome's Jesuit Order secret military.
@SpencerBenedict2nd I agree that the church has done some terrible things, i do not agree that the holocaust was orchestrated by rome. As for the inquisitions, they were greatly exagerated, there have been many non-catholic tv programmes and books that support this. Even people such as st.john of the cross were brought before inquisitions,they were found inocent of heresy and left alone, which is opposite to the populag belief that people were simply captured and tortured.
Dead-to-the-spirit deluded "God Delusion" author & blithering fool scientist goon Richard Dawkins another "leader" given 2 the profane masses is another useful idiot 4 Jesuit machinations
Jesuitical; pertaining to the Jesuits or their principals; designing; cunning; deceitful; prevaricating
The Jesuit Order completely altered the education system 2 suit their Evo-Hoax Agenda to discredit the Bible
Papal Rome cant have their Counter Reformation 2nd Dark Age DESPOTISM until Bible is destroyed
@SpencerBenedict2nd So multi-award winning research scientist Richard Dawkins, professor of biology at one of the world's greatest universities is a blithering fool, based purely on your authority? And who are you exactly?
teehee1604 SAYS, "So... Dawkins... is a blithering fool, based purely on your authority?"
>No, not just mine, but on the authority of all enlightened to what creeps and hides under his sheep's clothing that's pulled the wool over your eyes and likely countless millions. So, though been fooled, find solace and take comfort in knowing you are not alone.
Are you not aware, the jesuit false-science evolution hoax is a product of Rome's Council of Trent and a Counter Reformation tool?
teehee1604 SAYS, "So multi-award winning research scientist Richard Dawkins, professor of biology at one of the world's greatest universities is a blithering fool, based purely on your authority? And who are you exactly?"
>You must not have any idea about the Counter Reformation agenda that Vatican Rome set about accomplishing, as formulated in their Councils at Trent or have any clue as to the machinations of the world you live in nor the entity in control of these, do you? sigh
"Dead-to-the-spirit deluded "God Delusion" author & blithering fool scientist goon Richard Dawkins another "leader" given to the profane masses is another useful idiot for Jesuit machinations"-C.O.
Jesuitical: pertaining to the Jesuits or their principals; designing; cunning; deceitful; prevaricating
The Jesuits completely altered the education system to suit their evolution agenda to discredit the Bible. They cant have a Satanic society of 'Do as Thou Wilt' if people still follow the Bible.
I am not actually an atheist per se, but I think the main arguments that atheists have are:
One, if the universe couldn't have been created without a God, then what created God?
Two, the burden of proof is on those who insist there is God, not on those who do not.
Three, not only do most believers simply state that God exists, but that they know what he wants/thinks/commands and that their faith is the one and only truth.
No one has killed in the name of godlessness. Many kill for power and/or expansion (same thing really). No one has been killed in masses because they had a god. Hitler killed in the name of religion. (next...) Dawkins had debated Catholics a long time ago, but won't now since they don't deserve to stand on equal ground with him. He moved past talking to such stupidly. It's understandable. Religion is stupid
Respond to this video... There are also deep reasons on the church teachings of condoms, if you cared to google "why" the church teaches this you would know. When the pill and condoms became mass produced and easily accessed, Pope John 23rd stated that this would increase unwanted pregnancy, abortion, std's and divorce rates. People laughed at him but every one of his predictions came true. That was over 50 years ago! But he's just a silly old man isn't he.
@ThePolishAtheist No where in Catholic faith are we told that babies are sinfull?? As a matter of fact Church teaching is that unbaptized babies and aborted babies go straight to heaven. Maybe you need to educate yourself on Church teachings and stop reading and listening to anti-catholic lies. "Baptism does not exist to wipe away the "stain" of original sin, but to initiate one into the Church," quote from Fr Richard McBrien, professor of theology at the University of Notre Dame.
@ThePolishAtheist It's a shame to hear this from a Pole. Pope John Paul was 2 one of the greatest people who ever came out of Poland. You should read his work, it might wake you up to the truth.
@trifulquita15 Atheism cannot by definition kill anyone, it is simply a lack of beliefs in something. Do not get a political ideology containing anti-theism (a very different thing) with what atheism is. The killings on Mexico, like any killings of one group by another group, are due to a need for power and dehumanisation. Atheism, by definition, cannot cause that, unless the examination of events is mind-numbingly simplistic.
@trifulquita15 You probably didn't understand that. Basically, you can't go from "I don't believe in any gods" to "I'm going to kill everyone". You have to add other more sadistic beliefs into your mind, like maybe believing everyone is evil filth undersereving of life, which has nothing to do with atheism.
@TheGoopyGloop I guess authors and educated atheists are non-violent people, but I dont think atheists peasents, uneducated, ignorants, living in poverty and angry, i.e. Khmer Rouge will just write books or speechs.
@trifulquita15 Of course not, but that applies to everyone. And like I said, if you got an atheist serial killer hobo, it doesn't necessarily mean it was his atheism that drove him to murder. Atheism is just simply the lack of belief in gods and carries nothing else in it that could drive someone to murder, but that's not to say there aren't any evil people that happen to be atheists.
@trifulquita15 No atheist has ever killed in the name of atheism. Unlike those who (have always) killed in the name of God. I can't wait to see Prof. Dawkins speak next month!!!
Oh, you're Christian, ok. So you support slavery and the killing of homosexuals just like it's written in your good book. Ya real nice .... NOT. Your bible is full of hatred and immoral conduct. You should read it some time.
@osityan pls read the bible, u are embarrasing urself. The OT was a punishment!!! the NT is the real word of Him... ugggh Jesus stoped an execution, read the end of slavery on the bible!!
Oh, you're Christian, ok. So you support slavery and the killing of homosexuals just like it's written in your good book. Ya real nice .... NOT. Your bible is full of hatred and immoral conduct. You should read it some time.
@trifulquita15 No, you're actually just a FAN of Jesus Christ, if you were a christian you'd follow ALL of Christs teachings and behave entirely different. Hey, but that's ok.
@Cryo2005 like Katy Perry parents? They are modern christians, very tolerant, open minded, they have tatoos n everything. Now their daughter is a bisexual celebrity. The bible says don't even speak to those people or eat among apostates.
@trifulquita15 When things like this are done by Christians, they are usually done "for god." They are doing it _because_ of their religion. Atheists are incapable of doing something like this. You cant kill someone "for not god."
@BenHighley atheists killed PRIESTS in France, Spain, Colombia, etc. and many other wars, that is killing in the name of atheism, you may call it "for not god", i prefer "in the name of atheism"
Finishing my 3 part comment series I'd like to say that religion is nothing but a 3,000 year ongoing game of 'telephone' mixed in with poor translation and self righteous editing. If you know anything about those things then you know that they are alone recipes for failing to conceive a meaningful or proper message. Its silly to believe in religion because it was conceived by mankind, and mankind does not yet have the mind of god. <For this comment i wont credit him by capitalizing his name.
@CBSINDAHOUSE As for your remarks on survival of the fittest, evolution does work by process of eliminating the bad genes, yes. Its foolish to say that you reject that truth because it is a harsh reality and therefor you go to God for comfort. Comfort doesn't change truth it just makes you ignorant to the truth. Fortunately, research (like stem cell research) is allowing us to aid those with bad genes in survival because we are creatures with good intentions. NO BIBLE NEEDED..
@CBSINDAHOUSE occult theory or practice : belief in or study of the action or influence of supernatural or supernormal powers. (Defined by merrian webster.) That definition alone rules out your first claim of atheists being occultists seeing as we reject the belief of anything supernatural. Stem cell research does not require killing infants, there are many ways of obtaining stem cells and it is a very beneficial practice. From stem cells we can grow organs for transplants and fix nerve damage.
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Funny how Dawkins interviews cretionists, Muslims and extreme fundamentalists but never CATHOLIC theologines? Because the arrogant little prick knows that he would be made look a fool!!! Its also funny that this little bunch of atheists gathered together to attack the Pope when they were surrounded by hundred's of thousands of people who were there to greet the Pope!!! In protestant Britain! what does that tell you?
As an ex Catholic myself, I am yet to meet one not dumber than a bag of hammers, theologians included, this was the main reason I turned to reality rather than fairy stories.
@mrgodbehere LOL Really, watch "Richard Dawkins interview with Fr George Coyne" . Its the only interview with a catholic that I could find. He diddn't show it in his tv programme though because he prefers to interview ignorant people so he can make himself and his argument seem stronger. Just watch it and eat your words. You are a clearly ignorant baboon as some of the greatest minds in history have been Catholics.
@mrgodbehere one not dumber than a bag of hammers? Really they have done much more than athiest to improve this world you idiot im a Orthadox but my moms a Catholic.
@CaptHandsome42 Yes but why are they so hard to find? only one I can find is Dawkins interview with Fr George Coyne and he omitted that from his programme for obvious reasons. It's easy to make creationist fundamentalists look like fools but not so easy with Catholics. In-fact Fr George Coyne made Dawkins look like a rebellious schoolboy.
@ubiquitousdiabolus point is hitler preached hate, the Pope preaches love. Point is there are over a billion catholics in the world. Point is if people like you listened to what the Pope actually says or read his speeches instead of listening to lies about him from people like Dawkins you would get the point.
I didn't even think of this, you are so right! I notice he will engage in conversations with lowly priests or crack smoking homosexuals like Ted Haggard....yeah what a debate that is!
Professor Dawkins, please debate a person who is actually intelligent. I am beginning to think behind all of his purple prose he is a scared little boy.
@damienbrennan1 er, not to defend or endorse mr dawkins' brand of atheist hubris, but he has several interviews with bishops and arch bishops and he seems to rather like them, since most of those catholic theologians believe in the findings of science, as is the official church stance of believing in the age of the universe and the earth...
In the beginning there was nothing, and nothing happened to nothing, until nothing exploded, and created everything. Then, the nothing that became everything magically rearranged itself for no reason into self-replicating complex life forms, that became intelligent beings that believed in God. Makes perfect sense. LOL.
Christianity. God created the heavens and the earth. And this isn't opposed to evolution as evolution is simply a theory or vague insight into how God chose to form life
@damienbrennan1 Not ONE educated atheist on earth believes in Creation ex-Nihilo. Nor was the Big Bang an explosion. And the arrangement in self replication wasn't magic, we know how it happened almost entirely. Scientific Theories are not 'vague insights'.
You have made it abundantly clear you know nothing at all about any of the subjects you are talking about. Please read some philosophy of science, then some real science, then come back with the ignorance.
@mrgodbehere Being close minded and arrogant is in my opinion ignorant. If you have watched "richard Dawkins interview with fr George Coyne" in it's entirety, im sure even you realize he is much more intelligent than you or Dawkins. Simply because someone disagree's with you does not make them ignorant. Fair enough, creationists are quite an ignorant bunch but you can't tarnish all believers with that brush. Good for you if you are so convinced in your beliefs, but for me they are ignorant.
@mrgodbehere Being close minded and arrogant is in my opinion ignorant. If you have watched "richard Dawkins interview with fr George Coyne" in it's entirety, im sure even you realize he is much more intelligent than you or Dawkins. Simply because someone disagree's with you does not make them ignorant. Fair enough, creationists are quite an ignorant bunch but you can't tarnish all believers with that brush. Good for you if you are so convinced in your beliefs, but for me they are ignorant.
Your version of Christianity might not be opposed to evolution, but many Christians (and Muslims and Jews) routinely state that they do not "believe" in evolution.
@ubiquitousdiabolus Yes this is unfortunately true, however my version of Christianity is indisputably the original and by far the largest Christian denomination in the world. Which is why tarnishing all Christians with the same brush as creationists as many atheist's do is wrong.
y do atheist and some christens think that all priest are pedofile rapist? i have met like 5 priest and none show any sighns of any type of sexual love for kids.
@twittermonz - It is not that anyone thinks they are all pedophiles but it is clear that the Catholic church protected pedophile priest and there was child abuse on a massive scale. The Catholic church has paid out 1 billion in compensation in the U.S. alone. They also threatened to excommunicate anyone that exposed the pedophiles allowing them to continue to rape children. On a separate note how could you tell if these priest abused children?
@WillShakespeare2007 well my 8th grade Math teacher was a Pedophile... long story... and he would show vary little interest for Women. he had lots of pictures of the Virgin Mary in his class room and most had a picture of Jesus as a child and a baby. he would walk down the kids hall ways every day to lunch when most teachers took the main hall way. so my theory is that they will try to get as close to kids as possible without getting to close. oh and kids thoughout the years that have said stuff
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@donroche ALL Christians are occultist. What could be more occultic than pouring water over an infant to save it from being tortured for eternity? What could be more occultic than eating a bad tasting thin piece of bakery, handed to you by a man, who is wearing a dress, to make some "holy spirit" enter your body and enable you to be a good person? What could be more occultic than a Cult that doesn't allow wemon to be priests?
@o0Loucypher0o All Atheist are occultist. What could be more sadistic than using a microscopic needle and killing an infant for stem cell research? I take the water any day. What could be more horrible than to tell a child that all the world goes by interest and only the fittest survive? is your child an animal? Dawkin's believes so! What could be more "evil" than to tell the Son that gave his life for his friends, that his sacrifice was a joke because evolutionist believe in genetics!
@o0Loucypher0o Don't generalize. Your description doesn't describe ALL Christians; it describes MANY Catholics but not all of them either. I consider myself a Christian because I try to adhere to the teachings of Jesus Christ. No water was sprinkled on me as a baby and I've never taken Matzo crackers or bread from any man in a dress.
Dawkins is intellectually despicable - his atheistic pride blinds him to even the most obvious counterarguments to, say, Hitler being Catholic. Clearly people can use religion, have perverse understandings of it, and drift away entirely from it when they are older! Dawkins doesn't want commonsense to get in the way of his intellectual pride. He can rightly take pride in his work as a biologist, but why must he mar it with such rubbish?
@TheA1b2j9 He must go there because the religious have time and time again brought up the weak argument that Hitler and Stalin were Atheists, so Atheists must be like them. The religious have perverted the word common sense and cite it has the basis of their beliefs. There is no counterargument because in FACT religions, today and in the past, have used THEIR RELIGION as the justification for horrific acts.
"and drift away entirely from it when they are older!" - one word... facilitation
@donroche Catholic Church is occultist. Graven images are prayed to, sex crimes are covered up to free the perpetrator and shame the victim. Who are the catholics really praying to? A cruel god who forgives paedophile priests but never their victims. If you look at creeds and how the CC perceives other religions they have an elitist attitude and can the laws of their god to suit themselves at the time. Hiding documents from the masses to keep information only for themselves.
He pushes away the religious and demonises himself and those that follow him. He represents Atheism as a religion you subscribe to, and people dive into it without ever criticising their own beliefs. By even classing it as a collective group of people alienates those that aren't a member.
Oh, and he classes all religious people as conspiring and deliberate. They obviously aren't.
The man isn't necessarily wrong. But my God does he approach things the wrong way.
sorry, I am an atheist and Dawkins has some GREAT points, but he isnt really that good. In one debate he showed that he dont even know what the argument from ignorance is, which if he did, could have ended the entire debate. I mean, he is right on allot of things, but he seems to be a bit crazy.
@donroche Hitler was baptised a Roman Catholic, FACT. He may have diverted but he used the already held anti- semitic beliefs in Europe and within the Church. It was the Christian church who gave Europes anti-semitic feelings.
The question is if even Stalin was an atheist. If my memory is correct from what i've read, before the russian revolution he was studying to become a priest...
The 1st thing that should be done, in my humble opinion, is to audit all religions so the "followers' know where the money is going.
The second thing they (Government with balls that is) is arrest this bastard the current pope and put him on trial....is there nobody with the courage that can do this?....I don't get it.
Hitler was never married in a Catholic church and never attended Sunday mass. Hitler killed many Catholic priests for standing up to him and many chruches were even closed down under the Nazi occupation. Richard Dawkins only says he was a Roman Catholic because he was baptised a Catholic, Mr Dawkins Himself was baptised anglican but he's call himself an Athiest. Joseph Stalin in the early 19th centuary had 130,000 Orthodox priests were arrested. Of these, 95,000 were put to death.
Adolf Hitler was baptised a Roman Catholic, at the age of nine he even spoke about becoming a monk. in th 1970s an interview of one of Hitler's workers at bertesgarten spoke of a conversation he had with him of his tactics of winning the vote of the decent christian majority of German people in the late 1920s and early 1930s. He gave anti-semetic and pro christian speeches as a means of winning their vote. He wasn't a Catholic, as chancellor he closed down churches and stopped the priesthood.
Really? That is exactly why Hitler made numerous references to the Christian God in nearly every one of his personal writings? You may want to actually read before speaking such complete nonsense such as "Hitler was an occultist. Not a Christian". He was a Christian who just like every other dangerous fundamentalist on the planet thinks they are on a special mission mandated by an all powerful deity that gives them the right to kill, torture and maim if disagreed with.
The inquisition didn't work. The Crusades didn't work. Even fighting with the Protestants didn't work. The Catholics just don't have the stuff it takes to take over the world, so instead, they go to rape children to prove how powerful they are.
Way to go Catholics. You sure taught your sons a lesson by handing them over to get raped. And now, the Pope insults the only people who dared to stand up for your children and demand justice.
@ArgueExplain What the fuck you talking about? Go home and think about this world a little more, because the Crusades were led by Christians not Catholics and America, the greatest country to ever exist, is predominantly Christian, and always will be.
Ha ha ha ha! You're such a moron that it amuses me. You obviously don't know anything about world history. Just read the wikipedia page about the crusades and you'll see that the majority of the Crusading forces were Catholic. Maybe it's that you don't know that Catholics are Christians just as squares are rectangles. Your USA has a quickly expanding atheist demographic.
Maybe you need to do more than think about the world, maybe you need to gain knowledge.
@ArgueExplain Actually if you knew anything at all, you would know that Chatholicism is not the exact same as Christianity. Sure they have the same basic beliefs in some areas, but in many other areas there is a greatly substantial difference in more specific areas in our religion.
Christianity: Protestants, Lutherans, Mormons, Catholics etc.
Catholicism: Catholics (just Catholics, Roman Catholic and Orthodox: Eastern/ Russian, Greek)
There isn't a significant difference. All of those groups believe in an invisible man in the sky who sends invisible souls to an invisible place called hell because of an invisible thing called sin or the invisible man sends those invisible souls to an invisible place called heaven because of an invisible thing called faith which must be placed in a missing man named Jesus.
You're drawing lines where they don't exist. If they believe in Christ, they are Christian.
@ArgueExplain Of course, but Christians ARE NOT Catholics. Case and Point. He is only "invisible" to those who can't see, or more everyone has the ability TO see God is the only truth, but many choose foolishly not to out of skeptic pride. When you die, you believe you will go back to the "nothingness" you came from, when I die I believe I will go to the only exisence possible in your "nothingnes" if I am truly faithful and obedient to my Lord.
I see. You're so closed minded you can't even allow another group of Christians into the Christian group. You're so deep in the dogma that you can't imagine that there is a real world outside of the fantasy of religion that you've bought into.
You're right. I can't see invisible gods, but neither can you. You are dishonest in saying that your viewpoint is the only viewpoint, especially when it is wrong.
You're acting like I see some deity but refuse to acknowledge it, as if there was an elephant in the road and I decide to keep driving at it. Meanwhile, you don't see an elephant, but you decide to swerve to avoid it anyway and then mock everyone that doesn't swerve to avoid it.
But you're not talking about elephants. You're talking about a nonexistent deity who pardons murder, rape, theft, and other sins but the one crime that is unforgivable is to not blindly believe in the supernatural.
@GrungeGodThenNIRVANA You all worship the same book. You know, its probably the only book you have read, and it belongs in the fiction section of the library. Who said nothingness, our energy is dispersed into everything, which is so small we havent found a way to quantify it, yet. As Richard Dawkins say "the mind is extremely susceptable to hallucination" thats how i would describe you. Have fun with your fairy tales.
@MrKGatl Of course it is extremely susceptible to hallucination. I don't think it was the first time anyone had ever noticed that when dawkins said it. Second, who says the real hallucination isn't atheism anyway, it could be solely incapability of finding love and union through God's grace which is noone but your fault, or it could also be a perspective of destructive pride and fear. You can argue this all day long. Have fun with your contradictory flies around bull shit.
@GrungeGodThenNIRVANA If there is a god, why would it be the Christian god? Isnt it just as likely to be Allah, Mithra, Ra? Christians seem so sure of themselves. I have lots of love in my life. Atheists, like myself, believe that life is meaningful and we can have love and compasion without a god religion. The idea that Christians have a monopoly on humanity is insulting. Atheist deal in the real world, and theists deal with fairy tales.
@MrKGatl No.You are missing the whole point. Jesus was a real man, and we hold true as the apostles taught that He was the Christ and saviour of humanity, the true Son of God. Christianity is not Christianity without Jesus Christ, and that is the reason we BELIEVE we are right and the other religions are wrong. If there is a God,why couldn't it be the Christian?The apostles,twelve of them mind you, all saw Jesus after He had died.I don't think they were crucified for a hallucinated "fairytale."
@GrungeGodThenNIRVANA Yes, Jesus was a real man, a man of extrodianary morals, but a man no less. He was not divine, thats what make his actions more impressive. How arrogant to believe that other religions are wrong and Christians are the only ones who have it right. Sure Jesus might have been crucified, but to believe in a resurrection is a fairy tale, just like believing in a virgin birth or immaculate conception. If there is a god, it is most likely not the christian god
The problem is that religions are extremely self-centered and the idea of the ultimate God of the universe catering to a paltry number of people on a speck of cosmic dust is just absurd. While not impossible, the probability of it being true is incredibly low, just like the Jewish or Muslim God. 2,000 years ago, a meteorite was probably interpreted as a displeased God sending fireballs to punish his creations, so how can you be so sure about the interpretation of Jesus?
@donroche But it is still documented that the RCC did give sanctuary to some Nazi war criminals, and they were quiet about Hitler's actions, and they did not utter a word despite their full knowledge of what was going on.
Furthermore, in 1943, in the middle of the war, they even wished Hitler a Happy Birthday, showing that they still had friendly, though non-explicit, relations despite their knowledge of what was going on.
@donroche He still used the words of the bible to justify his dirty work. And furthermore, the Roman Catholic Church supported them, by doing nothing and even giving immunity and sanctuary to many Nazi war criminals.
@maserati1990 I don't have to look into it, I'm a historian. Hitler was NOT an atheist. He was a strange occultist/deist but by no means an atheist. He believed in a personal God- maybe not a standard god, but he certainly was sure of a higher power whose work he thought he was doing. His speeches and his writings are littered with it, as are many of his actions.
Normally i agree wholeheartedly with Richard Dawkins, but on this occasion i must point out that Just the way Adolf Hitler committed his atrocities not in the name of Athesm,Catholic Priest do not bugger boys in the name of Catholicism. There have been many travesties that were and will continue to be committed in the name of Catholicism, such as hangings, burnings, e.t.c.
The problem isn't the motivation behind buggering children - it's the fact that once they have done it the Church then hushes it up and protects the priest. What should happen is that the church should hand over any evidence they have to the police, and then offer counselling to the victims. If there was negligence on the part of the church, it should pay compensation also.
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@1BustedMyth Research Jeffrey Long and NDE (near death experience) over 1000 documented cases where people who have been clinically declared dead, experience heaven and hell... Even people who have been blind from birth can see what is going on in the hospital room when their spirits leave their body.. There are thousands of similiar experiences... Muslims turn into christians after their NDE too. Atheists become believers after their NDE... God, Jesus, heaven and hell are all real !!
@heightboosting Actually. That is not accurate, and Jeffrey Long is is far too inductive, putting the cart before the horse as he does. Although NDEs are similar, we all have the same chemistry and so the tunnel etc are likely natural phenomena. The experiences DO vary from culture to cultre (look up Hindu NDE's).
Also, I am privy to some 'real' empirical research that has taken decades on NDE and what they 'see' in the hospital room, and it does not corroborate your assertions at all.
@mrgodbehere How do do you explain this one case where a girl talked about leaving her body and going to the top roof of the hospital where she noticed a tennis shoe laying there. When she came back to life she told the nurses about it and they went up to check and found the tennis shoe this young girl was talking about and exactly how it looked like.... How can NDE patients know whats going on in completely different rooms separated with great distance in the hospital ?
@heightboosting A roof of a large building with a tennis shoe on it. Wow, how rare. it must be supernatural [sarcasm].
On analysis they almost never know any specifics of what is going on, and the 'observations' are no better than guesses: trust me, I've seen (and understand) the stats on this. Believe what you want, but I prefer to look at the 'real' data first, then draw my conclusions from attempts at its falsification, rather than the other way around.
@mrgodbehere This little girl has never been on this roof top, nor would her parents let her go up there... The only time she visited the roof top was when she was clinically declared dead. I do check out real data from researchers who actucally perform these studies and not from someone who just has an opinion about these cases of NDE...
@heightboosting But you don't, because you have already decided the answer. I can tell you now the the roof of the NAB at my Uni, a roof I have never been close to, probably has a shoe on it. And a traffic cone.
I do not see corroboration in the data with your view in the slightest BUT would concede the point, and shake the hands of the noble prize winner who made it, if it did.
You also discount the tens of thousands of cases where the predictions were plain wrong.
@mrgodbehere She fully described how the shoe looked like and what color it was.. It was a detailed description.. There are plenty of cases of NDE where patients can listen into conversations being carried out in separate rooms of the hospital far down the hallway... This is impossible unless your spirit is separated from your body during a NDE... Some people talk about NDE as an event where they almost died but were not clinically declared dead.. That type of NDE is completely different !
@heightboosting, Really!, I read another document, that said Christains and Muslims turn into Athiests at the time of death and for a split second realise they have wasted their entire lives
@mrgodbehere Research Jeffrey Long and NDE (near death experience) over 1000 documented cases where people who have been clinically declared dead, experience heaven and hell... Even people who have been blind from birth can see what is going on in the hospital room when their spirits leave their body.. There are thousands of similiar experiences... Muslims turn into christians after their NDE too. Atheists become believers after their NDE... God, Jesus, heaven and hell are all real !!
As a former catholic & now completely converted to nothing, I know that the church still counts me as an adherent somewhere in thr statistics. Mildly annoying, but I think they might be starting to figure out that all those believers out there r no longer out there as churches start to shut down & the remaining flock dies off. I dont have an axe to grind with the church, but RCs r required to believe in far too much magic, none of which makes any sense in hindsight.
Clichyabarbes22 1 month ago
Dawkins is a coward
atheistrocker100 2 months ago 6
@atheistrocker100 What the fuck makes you say that?
TonneofAsh 2 months ago
@TonneofAsh He refused to debate William Lane Craig
atheistrocker100 2 months ago
@atheistrocker100 He probably didn't debate him because he believes that the creationist mind will not take on board any scientific explanations or reasoning. Trying to reason with a creationist is like trying to reason with a cat.
TonneofAsh 1 month ago
@TonneofAsh He's not a creationist.
atheistrocker100 1 month ago
@atheistrocker100 Ok whatever you win, I don't really know enough about William Lane Craig to be able to say anything. But I think that debating at a religious level can be really tedious because many theists (and Atheists) simply won't accept the other view no matter how much reasoning is pumped into it. Put simply, the fight against irrational theistic reasoning is an un-winnable fight, one that Dawkins decided not to partake in on a debating level. Does that make him a coward?
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@TonneofAsh Evolution is dead
It has been proven over & over again to be impossible and not a single piece of evidence for evolution has ever been presented that wasn't later dis proven by honest uncorrupted science.
Real scientists have been trying to prove the theory of evolution & after 140 yrs they are still trying.
They are like a blind man in a dark basement looking for a black cat - that isn't there.
Evolution is dead
It's death just hasn't been reported to the obituary section yet.
SpencerBenedict2nd 1 month ago
6:40 HAHA I'm having that tattooed on my ass.
PhotoShopChannel 3 months ago
The 'Bible'…..Are people really still reading that old thing?
newbeats4 3 months ago
@newbeats4 No. What ever gave you that idea? You can go back to sleep.
SpencerBenedict2nd 2 months ago
I'd like to think that we are born good and innocent and somehow society fucks us up or pushes our buttons by the absence of a healthy economy or education., that its more nurture than nature, though I do not deny a minimum involvement in the latter. But to assert that nature, that is to say, that we are born damned, and the absence of a curing god or baptism, is responsible for all the evil in the world, is such an inhumane, absurd, medieval, archaic, ignorant, suffering perpetuating nonsense.
kvlo1986 3 months ago
Would Hitler have rose to power if everyone was christian.. No. Ratzingers point is that when humanity looses touch with love and peace then terrible things can happen. I havent heard the speech myself but im guessing the pope didnt literally say "becuse of atheists, hitler happened."
sksk1995 4 months ago
@sksk1995 So, if you didn't believe in god, you would forget all of a sudden what love and peace are? Are you serious?
soOodAkAh 3 months ago
@soOodAkAh I didnt say that. My point is that if everyone lived by christian morals then we would not have this kind of problem. Love and peace are central parts of christianity, im not saying that atheists dont know what love and peace are but most atheists dont put their knowledge into pracice very well.
sksk1995 3 months ago
@sksk1995 Well, let me tell you that "most religious people don't put their knowledge into practice very well" either. Christians, if you want to go there, have killed and slaughtered anyone that didn't have the same beliefs (even other christians), persecuted artists, scientifics, anyone that didn't fit in their ideals of "love and peace"... I never said atheism makes you good or bad, you did. You have a blind faith, my friend, to still believe that christianism makes people good and tolerant.
soOodAkAh 3 months ago
@sksk1995 And if you look it up in some History books, you'll see that a lot of christians helped Hitler to get to power. In a 90% catholic country like Spain, Franco stayed as dictator for 40 years, and every girl that was born had to be called "Maria". Chile, Argentina, Uruguay, Brazil, all very christian dictatorships, all the generals going to church and stuff, look up for how many deaths. So I don't think you're being relevant here. Christians are people, and the world is not black & white
soOodAkAh 3 months ago
@soOodAkAh Wouldnt you say that a lot of the votes for a dictator are based on fear and not agreement. And these are christians that are not practicing what they preach, my point is that it is dangerous for humanity to lose touch with the values that christianity is based on. I accept that lots of christians are bad.
sksk1995 3 months ago
@sksk1995
sksk1995 SAYS, "I havent heard... but im guessing the pope didnt literally say "becuse of atheists, hitler happened."
NEWS YOU (and anyone else clueless) CAN USE
Adolph Hitler was a frontman for Papal Rome's 20th Century (un)Holy Inquisition dubbed "The Holocaust" and Crusade of european jewry.
Cardinal Eugenio Pacelli (future Pope Pius XII) saw Hitler to power w/majority vote of Catholic Zentrum Party.
unHoly Vatican Rome's religious genocide of Middle East Shia Crusade current.
SpencerBenedict2nd 2 months ago
@SpencerBenedict2nd Are you saying the catholic church is responsible for the holocaust ?
sksk1995 2 months ago
@sksk1995
sksk1995 ASKS, "Are you saying the catholic church is responsible for the holocaust ?"
>Not exactly, but allow me to be blunt in sharing historical fact and universal truth.
The Vatican led papal Caesar dynasty Crusades ("heretic" burning religious genocide/inquisitions) of the papacy's (biblical anti-christ) Dark & Middle Ages have never ceased. They are still being carried out under the guise of "War".
So-called "Holocaust" was orchestrated by Rome's Jesuit Order secret military.
SpencerBenedict2nd 2 months ago
@SpencerBenedict2nd I agree that the church has done some terrible things, i do not agree that the holocaust was orchestrated by rome. As for the inquisitions, they were greatly exagerated, there have been many non-catholic tv programmes and books that support this. Even people such as st.john of the cross were brought before inquisitions,they were found inocent of heresy and left alone, which is opposite to the populag belief that people were simply captured and tortured.
sksk1995 2 months ago
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@sksk1995
sksk1995 SAYS, "i do not agree that the holocaust was orchestrated by rome."
>Of course you do not agree. It's a given most catholics don't.
"Non semper ea sunt quae videntur; prima facie multos incautos seducit; pauca illa quae intelligentiae diligenter absconditur."-Phaedrus
Translation:
"Things are not always what they seem; the first appearance deceives many; the intelligence of a few perceives what has been carefully hidden."
--Phaedrus (c. 15 BC – c. AD 50), Roman fabulist
SpencerBenedict2nd 1 month ago
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Dead-to-the-spirit deluded "God Delusion" author & blithering fool scientist goon Richard Dawkins another "leader" given 2 the profane masses is another useful idiot 4 Jesuit machinations
Jesuitical; pertaining to the Jesuits or their principals; designing; cunning; deceitful; prevaricating
The Jesuit Order completely altered the education system 2 suit their Evo-Hoax Agenda to discredit the Bible
Papal Rome cant have their Counter Reformation 2nd Dark Age DESPOTISM until Bible is destroyed
SpencerBenedict2nd 4 months ago
@SpencerBenedict2nd So multi-award winning research scientist Richard Dawkins, professor of biology at one of the world's greatest universities is a blithering fool, based purely on your authority? And who are you exactly?
teehee1604 2 months ago
@teehee1604
teehee1604 SAYS, "So... Dawkins... is a blithering fool, based purely on your authority?"
>No, not just mine, but on the authority of all enlightened to what creeps and hides under his sheep's clothing that's pulled the wool over your eyes and likely countless millions. So, though been fooled, find solace and take comfort in knowing you are not alone.
Are you not aware, the jesuit false-science evolution hoax is a product of Rome's Council of Trent and a Counter Reformation tool?
SpencerBenedict2nd 2 months ago
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@teehee1604
teehee1604 SAYS, "So multi-award winning research scientist Richard Dawkins, professor of biology at one of the world's greatest universities is a blithering fool, based purely on your authority? And who are you exactly?"
>You must not have any idea about the Counter Reformation agenda that Vatican Rome set about accomplishing, as formulated in their Councils at Trent or have any clue as to the machinations of the world you live in nor the entity in control of these, do you? sigh
SpencerBenedict2nd 2 months ago
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"Dead-to-the-spirit deluded "God Delusion" author & blithering fool scientist goon Richard Dawkins another "leader" given to the profane masses is another useful idiot for Jesuit machinations"-C.O.
Jesuitical: pertaining to the Jesuits or their principals; designing; cunning; deceitful; prevaricating
The Jesuits completely altered the education system to suit their evolution agenda to discredit the Bible. They cant have a Satanic society of 'Do as Thou Wilt' if people still follow the Bible.
SpencerBenedict2nd 4 months ago
I am not actually an atheist per se, but I think the main arguments that atheists have are:
One, if the universe couldn't have been created without a God, then what created God?
Two, the burden of proof is on those who insist there is God, not on those who do not.
Three, not only do most believers simply state that God exists, but that they know what he wants/thinks/commands and that their faith is the one and only truth.
ubiquitousdiabolus 5 months ago
No one has killed in the name of godlessness. Many kill for power and/or expansion (same thing really). No one has been killed in masses because they had a god. Hitler killed in the name of religion. (next...) Dawkins had debated Catholics a long time ago, but won't now since they don't deserve to stand on equal ground with him. He moved past talking to such stupidly. It's understandable. Religion is stupid
WHATxIxTHINK 5 months ago
Respond to this video... There are also deep reasons on the church teachings of condoms, if you cared to google "why" the church teaches this you would know. When the pill and condoms became mass produced and easily accessed, Pope John 23rd stated that this would increase unwanted pregnancy, abortion, std's and divorce rates. People laughed at him but every one of his predictions came true. That was over 50 years ago! But he's just a silly old man isn't he.
damienbrennan1 5 months ago
@ThePolishAtheist No where in Catholic faith are we told that babies are sinfull?? As a matter of fact Church teaching is that unbaptized babies and aborted babies go straight to heaven. Maybe you need to educate yourself on Church teachings and stop reading and listening to anti-catholic lies. "Baptism does not exist to wipe away the "stain" of original sin, but to initiate one into the Church," quote from Fr Richard McBrien, professor of theology at the University of Notre Dame.
damienbrennan1 5 months ago
@ThePolishAtheist It's a shame to hear this from a Pole. Pope John Paul was 2 one of the greatest people who ever came out of Poland. You should read his work, it might wake you up to the truth.
damienbrennan1 5 months ago
Nazi Ratzinger needs a slap in the face. The catholic church is near it end! its currently in full damage control.
halflifeproductionz 5 months ago
5:10 Very Nice =)
phoenix3brian 5 months ago
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Actually, atheists does killed in the name of atheism.
Im sure Dawkins is proud of the Atheist Mexican Regime during the Cristero War, christians persecuted and executed BY ATHEISTS.
trifulquita15 5 months ago
@trifulquita15 Atheism cannot by definition kill anyone, it is simply a lack of beliefs in something. Do not get a political ideology containing anti-theism (a very different thing) with what atheism is. The killings on Mexico, like any killings of one group by another group, are due to a need for power and dehumanisation. Atheism, by definition, cannot cause that, unless the examination of events is mind-numbingly simplistic.
mrgodbehere 5 months ago 22
@trifulquita15 You probably didn't understand that. Basically, you can't go from "I don't believe in any gods" to "I'm going to kill everyone". You have to add other more sadistic beliefs into your mind, like maybe believing everyone is evil filth undersereving of life, which has nothing to do with atheism.
TheGoopyGloop 5 months ago
@TheGoopyGloop I guess authors and educated atheists are non-violent people, but I dont think atheists peasents, uneducated, ignorants, living in poverty and angry, i.e. Khmer Rouge will just write books or speechs.
trifulquita15 5 months ago
@trifulquita15 Of course not, but that applies to everyone. And like I said, if you got an atheist serial killer hobo, it doesn't necessarily mean it was his atheism that drove him to murder. Atheism is just simply the lack of belief in gods and carries nothing else in it that could drive someone to murder, but that's not to say there aren't any evil people that happen to be atheists.
TheGoopyGloop 5 months ago
@trifulquita15 No atheist has ever killed in the name of atheism. Unlike those who (have always) killed in the name of God. I can't wait to see Prof. Dawkins speak next month!!!
gbrownstrat 5 months ago
@trifulquita15 where r u getting ur info?
shanabell420 5 months ago
@shanabell420 wikipedia. I didnt mention the Spanish Civil War, atheists executed thousands of catholics even a catholic statue
trifulquita15 5 months ago
@trifulquita15
I guess you've never heard of the Crusades? Or the Spanish and Portuguese inquisition? The burning people of a different faith was the norm.
osityan 4 months ago
@osityan yes, that's why im a christian, not catholic or protestant.
trifulquita15 4 months ago
@trifulquita15
Oh, you're Christian, ok. So you support slavery and the killing of homosexuals just like it's written in your good book. Ya real nice .... NOT. Your bible is full of hatred and immoral conduct. You should read it some time.
osityan 4 months ago
@osityan pls read the bible, u are embarrasing urself. The OT was a punishment!!! the NT is the real word of Him... ugggh Jesus stoped an execution, read the end of slavery on the bible!!
trifulquita15 4 months ago
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@trifulquita15
Oh, you're Christian, ok. So you support slavery and the killing of homosexuals just like it's written in your good book. Ya real nice .... NOT. Your bible is full of hatred and immoral conduct. You should read it some time.
osityan 4 months ago
@trifulquita15 No, you're actually just a FAN of Jesus Christ, if you were a christian you'd follow ALL of Christs teachings and behave entirely different. Hey, but that's ok.
Cryo2005 4 months ago
@Cryo2005 like Katy Perry parents? They are modern christians, very tolerant, open minded, they have tatoos n everything. Now their daughter is a bisexual celebrity. The bible says don't even speak to those people or eat among apostates.
hey, but that's ok if you like them
trifulquita15 4 months ago
@trifulquita15 When things like this are done by Christians, they are usually done "for god." They are doing it _because_ of their religion. Atheists are incapable of doing something like this. You cant kill someone "for not god."
BenHighley 3 months ago
@BenHighley atheists killed PRIESTS in France, Spain, Colombia, etc. and many other wars, that is killing in the name of atheism, you may call it "for not god", i prefer "in the name of atheism"
trifulquita15 3 months ago
@trifulquita15 retard
PhotoShopChannel 3 months ago
Finishing my 3 part comment series I'd like to say that religion is nothing but a 3,000 year ongoing game of 'telephone' mixed in with poor translation and self righteous editing. If you know anything about those things then you know that they are alone recipes for failing to conceive a meaningful or proper message. Its silly to believe in religion because it was conceived by mankind, and mankind does not yet have the mind of god. <For this comment i wont credit him by capitalizing his name.
ninjake889 5 months ago
@CBSINDAHOUSE As for your remarks on survival of the fittest, evolution does work by process of eliminating the bad genes, yes. Its foolish to say that you reject that truth because it is a harsh reality and therefor you go to God for comfort. Comfort doesn't change truth it just makes you ignorant to the truth. Fortunately, research (like stem cell research) is allowing us to aid those with bad genes in survival because we are creatures with good intentions. NO BIBLE NEEDED..
ninjake889 5 months ago
@CBSINDAHOUSE occult theory or practice : belief in or study of the action or influence of supernatural or supernormal powers. (Defined by merrian webster.) That definition alone rules out your first claim of atheists being occultists seeing as we reject the belief of anything supernatural. Stem cell research does not require killing infants, there are many ways of obtaining stem cells and it is a very beneficial practice. From stem cells we can grow organs for transplants and fix nerve damage.
ninjake889 5 months ago
Dawkins IS God.
anna2124 5 months ago
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Funny how Dawkins interviews cretionists, Muslims and extreme fundamentalists but never CATHOLIC theologines? Because the arrogant little prick knows that he would be made look a fool!!! Its also funny that this little bunch of atheists gathered together to attack the Pope when they were surrounded by hundred's of thousands of people who were there to greet the Pope!!! In protestant Britain! what does that tell you?
damienbrennan1 5 months ago
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@damienbrennan1 Why don't you shut the fuck up.
ajrk95 5 months ago
@damienbrennan1 Please read my previous comment.
As an ex Catholic myself, I am yet to meet one not dumber than a bag of hammers, theologians included, this was the main reason I turned to reality rather than fairy stories.
mrgodbehere 5 months ago 19
@mrgodbehere LOL Really, watch "Richard Dawkins interview with Fr George Coyne" . Its the only interview with a catholic that I could find. He diddn't show it in his tv programme though because he prefers to interview ignorant people so he can make himself and his argument seem stronger. Just watch it and eat your words. You are a clearly ignorant baboon as some of the greatest minds in history have been Catholics.
damienbrennan1 5 months ago
@mrgodbehere one not dumber than a bag of hammers? Really they have done much more than athiest to improve this world you idiot im a Orthadox but my moms a Catholic.
dragonsfoe99 3 months ago
@damienbrennan1 Dawkins has interviewed Catholic priests and bishops.
CaptHandsome42 5 months ago
@CaptHandsome42 Yes but why are they so hard to find? only one I can find is Dawkins interview with Fr George Coyne and he omitted that from his programme for obvious reasons. It's easy to make creationist fundamentalists look like fools but not so easy with Catholics. In-fact Fr George Coyne made Dawkins look like a rebellious schoolboy.
damienbrennan1 5 months ago
@damienbrennan1
hundreds of thousands of people were there to greet Hitler. What's your point?
ubiquitousdiabolus 5 months ago
@ubiquitousdiabolus point is hitler preached hate, the Pope preaches love. Point is there are over a billion catholics in the world. Point is if people like you listened to what the Pope actually says or read his speeches instead of listening to lies about him from people like Dawkins you would get the point.
damienbrennan1 5 months ago
@damienbrennan1
I wasn't comparing the Pope to Hitler. Just saying that having lots of followers doesn't automatically mean a person is benevolent or truthful
ubiquitousdiabolus 5 months ago
@damienbrennan1
I didn't even think of this, you are so right! I notice he will engage in conversations with lowly priests or crack smoking homosexuals like Ted Haggard....yeah what a debate that is!
Professor Dawkins, please debate a person who is actually intelligent. I am beginning to think behind all of his purple prose he is a scared little boy.
LightRevealsDark 4 months ago
@damienbrennan1 er, not to defend or endorse mr dawkins' brand of atheist hubris, but he has several interviews with bishops and arch bishops and he seems to rather like them, since most of those catholic theologians believe in the findings of science, as is the official church stance of believing in the age of the universe and the earth...
jamesedwardtheobald 4 months ago
@damienbrennan1 he has other things to do :D
Paremias 3 months ago
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Atheism:
In the beginning there was nothing, and nothing happened to nothing, until nothing exploded, and created everything. Then, the nothing that became everything magically rearranged itself for no reason into self-replicating complex life forms, that became intelligent beings that believed in God. Makes perfect sense. LOL.
Christianity. God created the heavens and the earth. And this isn't opposed to evolution as evolution is simply a theory or vague insight into how God chose to form life
damienbrennan1 5 months ago
@damienbrennan1 Not ONE educated atheist on earth believes in Creation ex-Nihilo. Nor was the Big Bang an explosion. And the arrangement in self replication wasn't magic, we know how it happened almost entirely. Scientific Theories are not 'vague insights'.
You have made it abundantly clear you know nothing at all about any of the subjects you are talking about. Please read some philosophy of science, then some real science, then come back with the ignorance.
mrgodbehere 5 months ago
@mrgodbehere Being close minded and arrogant is in my opinion ignorant. If you have watched "richard Dawkins interview with fr George Coyne" in it's entirety, im sure even you realize he is much more intelligent than you or Dawkins. Simply because someone disagree's with you does not make them ignorant. Fair enough, creationists are quite an ignorant bunch but you can't tarnish all believers with that brush. Good for you if you are so convinced in your beliefs, but for me they are ignorant.
damienbrennan1 5 months ago
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@mrgodbehere Being close minded and arrogant is in my opinion ignorant. If you have watched "richard Dawkins interview with fr George Coyne" in it's entirety, im sure even you realize he is much more intelligent than you or Dawkins. Simply because someone disagree's with you does not make them ignorant. Fair enough, creationists are quite an ignorant bunch but you can't tarnish all believers with that brush. Good for you if you are so convinced in your beliefs, but for me they are ignorant.
damienbrennan1 5 months ago
@damienbrennan1
Your version of Christianity might not be opposed to evolution, but many Christians (and Muslims and Jews) routinely state that they do not "believe" in evolution.
ubiquitousdiabolus 5 months ago
@ubiquitousdiabolus Yes this is unfortunately true, however my version of Christianity is indisputably the original and by far the largest Christian denomination in the world. Which is why tarnishing all Christians with the same brush as creationists as many atheist's do is wrong.
damienbrennan1 4 months ago
Dawkins is my new hero xD
TRYCLOPS1 5 months ago
Man, Dawkins is a brave man speaking out against the single most powerful and well funded mafia on the planet.
torontoBluejays87 5 months ago
Great Speech
bmehoota 6 months ago
y do atheist and some christens think that all priest are pedofile rapist? i have met like 5 priest and none show any sighns of any type of sexual love for kids.
twittermonz 6 months ago
@twittermonz - It is not that anyone thinks they are all pedophiles but it is clear that the Catholic church protected pedophile priest and there was child abuse on a massive scale. The Catholic church has paid out 1 billion in compensation in the U.S. alone. They also threatened to excommunicate anyone that exposed the pedophiles allowing them to continue to rape children. On a separate note how could you tell if these priest abused children?
WillShakespeare2007 6 months ago
@WillShakespeare2007 well my 8th grade Math teacher was a Pedophile... long story... and he would show vary little interest for Women. he had lots of pictures of the Virgin Mary in his class room and most had a picture of Jesus as a child and a baby. he would walk down the kids hall ways every day to lunch when most teachers took the main hall way. so my theory is that they will try to get as close to kids as possible without getting to close. oh and kids thoughout the years that have said stuff
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TheServiceWeb 6 months ago
@donroche ALL Christians are occultist. What could be more occultic than pouring water over an infant to save it from being tortured for eternity? What could be more occultic than eating a bad tasting thin piece of bakery, handed to you by a man, who is wearing a dress, to make some "holy spirit" enter your body and enable you to be a good person? What could be more occultic than a Cult that doesn't allow wemon to be priests?
o0Loucypher0o 6 months ago 28
@o0Loucypher0o All Atheist are occultist. What could be more sadistic than using a microscopic needle and killing an infant for stem cell research? I take the water any day. What could be more horrible than to tell a child that all the world goes by interest and only the fittest survive? is your child an animal? Dawkin's believes so! What could be more "evil" than to tell the Son that gave his life for his friends, that his sacrifice was a joke because evolutionist believe in genetics!
CBSINDAHOUSE 5 months ago
@o0Loucypher0o All good points, although fundamentalist Christianity does not believe in infant baptism.
DowntownCanon 5 months ago
@o0Loucypher0o it isnt some holy spirit, its the flesh and blood of Jesus. You will know the truth when you die.
damienbrennan1 5 months ago
@o0Loucypher0o Don't generalize. Your description doesn't describe ALL Christians; it describes MANY Catholics but not all of them either. I consider myself a Christian because I try to adhere to the teachings of Jesus Christ. No water was sprinkled on me as a baby and I've never taken Matzo crackers or bread from any man in a dress.
thedexterbros 3 months ago
Dawkins is intellectually despicable - his atheistic pride blinds him to even the most obvious counterarguments to, say, Hitler being Catholic. Clearly people can use religion, have perverse understandings of it, and drift away entirely from it when they are older! Dawkins doesn't want commonsense to get in the way of his intellectual pride. He can rightly take pride in his work as a biologist, but why must he mar it with such rubbish?
TheA1b2j9 7 months ago
@TheA1b2j9 He must go there because the religious have time and time again brought up the weak argument that Hitler and Stalin were Atheists, so Atheists must be like them. The religious have perverted the word common sense and cite it has the basis of their beliefs. There is no counterargument because in FACT religions, today and in the past, have used THEIR RELIGION as the justification for horrific acts.
"and drift away entirely from it when they are older!" - one word... facilitation
ludogogo 6 months ago
1:29 WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU CLAPPING ABOUT?! HUH?! Why would ANYONE clap to a pure statement of fact? I don't get it.
ImAnotherZang 7 months ago
"Enemy of the Anglican church" nothing, he's in a way an enemy of even the Catholic church itself, by damaging its reputation in the long run.
neoYTPism 8 months ago
"He's an enemy of women, barring them from the priesthood, as though a penis were an essential tool for pastoral duties."
SCAAAAATHING!!!
furyofbongos 8 months ago
Atheism vs Christianity = Idiots vs Retards
blueeagleTFL 8 months ago
@blueeagleTFL
You mean,
Common Sense vs. Brain Washed
ludogogo 6 months ago
@donroche Catholic Church is occultist. Graven images are prayed to, sex crimes are covered up to free the perpetrator and shame the victim. Who are the catholics really praying to? A cruel god who forgives paedophile priests but never their victims. If you look at creeds and how the CC perceives other religions they have an elitist attitude and can the laws of their god to suit themselves at the time. Hiding documents from the masses to keep information only for themselves.
JubblyJack 8 months ago
He's talking like Atheists are a fucking army.
This man does so much harm for the cause of Atheism.
molewizard 8 months ago
@molewizard What are you talking about? Have you ever attended a speech or a rally before?
This man is the fucking leader for the cause of Atheism; have you even listened to any of his many speeches and debates?
ludogogo 6 months ago
@ludogogo Nobody elected him.
He pushes away the religious and demonises himself and those that follow him. He represents Atheism as a religion you subscribe to, and people dive into it without ever criticising their own beliefs. By even classing it as a collective group of people alienates those that aren't a member.
Oh, and he classes all religious people as conspiring and deliberate. They obviously aren't.
The man isn't necessarily wrong. But my God does he approach things the wrong way.
molewizard 6 months ago
sorry, I am an atheist and Dawkins has some GREAT points, but he isnt really that good. In one debate he showed that he dont even know what the argument from ignorance is, which if he did, could have ended the entire debate. I mean, he is right on allot of things, but he seems to be a bit crazy.
gulbirk 8 months ago
@donroche Hitler was baptised a Roman Catholic, FACT. He may have diverted but he used the already held anti- semitic beliefs in Europe and within the Church. It was the Christian church who gave Europes anti-semitic feelings.
MrKGatl 8 months ago
The question is if even Stalin was an atheist. If my memory is correct from what i've read, before the russian revolution he was studying to become a priest...
lasseplatburk 9 months ago
dawkins is the walking real more of a honest teacher than jesus ever could be
starscreamdkmo 9 months ago
@donroche there´s no diference, both magisteria are BS.
wirikuta14 9 months ago
hitler also used science as a justification for the holocaust. should we ban science?
MattHXIV 10 months ago
@MattHXIV
He was also a vegetarian. Should we also ban vegetables?
ArgueExplain 9 months ago
@ArgueExplain no of course not. excellent point i always love it when people further my point
MattHXIV 9 months ago
@ArgueExplain He wasn't, actually, but good well made point none-the-less.
mrgodbehere 5 months ago
The 1st thing that should be done, in my humble opinion, is to audit all religions so the "followers' know where the money is going.
The second thing they (Government with balls that is) is arrest this bastard the current pope and put him on trial....is there nobody with the courage that can do this?....I don't get it.
bermudaguy1 10 months ago
Hitler was never married in a Catholic church and never attended Sunday mass. Hitler killed many Catholic priests for standing up to him and many chruches were even closed down under the Nazi occupation. Richard Dawkins only says he was a Roman Catholic because he was baptised a Catholic, Mr Dawkins Himself was baptised anglican but he's call himself an Athiest. Joseph Stalin in the early 19th centuary had 130,000 Orthodox priests were arrested. Of these, 95,000 were put to death.
deadmanschest99 10 months ago
@deadmanschest99 Very true man. I am proud to see that someone else understands what Hitler REALLY was.
GrungeGodThenNIRVANA 9 months ago
Adolf Hitler was baptised a Roman Catholic, at the age of nine he even spoke about becoming a monk. in th 1970s an interview of one of Hitler's workers at bertesgarten spoke of a conversation he had with him of his tactics of winning the vote of the decent christian majority of German people in the late 1920s and early 1930s. He gave anti-semetic and pro christian speeches as a means of winning their vote. He wasn't a Catholic, as chancellor he closed down churches and stopped the priesthood.
deadmanschest99 10 months ago
@donroche
Really? That is exactly why Hitler made numerous references to the Christian God in nearly every one of his personal writings? You may want to actually read before speaking such complete nonsense such as "Hitler was an occultist. Not a Christian". He was a Christian who just like every other dangerous fundamentalist on the planet thinks they are on a special mission mandated by an all powerful deity that gives them the right to kill, torture and maim if disagreed with.
Sn4pDr4gon 10 months ago
The inquisition didn't work. The Crusades didn't work. Even fighting with the Protestants didn't work. The Catholics just don't have the stuff it takes to take over the world, so instead, they go to rape children to prove how powerful they are.
Way to go Catholics. You sure taught your sons a lesson by handing them over to get raped. And now, the Pope insults the only people who dared to stand up for your children and demand justice.
Religion at its worst.
ArgueExplain 10 months ago
@ArgueExplain What the fuck you talking about? Go home and think about this world a little more, because the Crusades were led by Christians not Catholics and America, the greatest country to ever exist, is predominantly Christian, and always will be.
GrungeGodThenNIRVANA 9 months ago
@GrungeGodThenNIRVANA
Ha ha ha ha! You're such a moron that it amuses me. You obviously don't know anything about world history. Just read the wikipedia page about the crusades and you'll see that the majority of the Crusading forces were Catholic. Maybe it's that you don't know that Catholics are Christians just as squares are rectangles. Your USA has a quickly expanding atheist demographic.
Maybe you need to do more than think about the world, maybe you need to gain knowledge.
ArgueExplain 9 months ago
@ArgueExplain Actually if you knew anything at all, you would know that Chatholicism is not the exact same as Christianity. Sure they have the same basic beliefs in some areas, but in many other areas there is a greatly substantial difference in more specific areas in our religion.
Christianity: Protestants, Lutherans, Mormons, Catholics etc.
Catholicism: Catholics (just Catholics, Roman Catholic and Orthodox: Eastern/ Russian, Greek)
THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE.
GrungeGodThenNIRVANA 9 months ago
@GrungeGodThenNIRVANA
There isn't a significant difference. All of those groups believe in an invisible man in the sky who sends invisible souls to an invisible place called hell because of an invisible thing called sin or the invisible man sends those invisible souls to an invisible place called heaven because of an invisible thing called faith which must be placed in a missing man named Jesus.
You're drawing lines where they don't exist. If they believe in Christ, they are Christian.
ArgueExplain 9 months ago
@ArgueExplain Of course, but Christians ARE NOT Catholics. Case and Point. He is only "invisible" to those who can't see, or more everyone has the ability TO see God is the only truth, but many choose foolishly not to out of skeptic pride. When you die, you believe you will go back to the "nothingness" you came from, when I die I believe I will go to the only exisence possible in your "nothingnes" if I am truly faithful and obedient to my Lord.
GrungeGodThenNIRVANA 9 months ago
@GrungeGodThenNIRVANA
I see. You're so closed minded you can't even allow another group of Christians into the Christian group. You're so deep in the dogma that you can't imagine that there is a real world outside of the fantasy of religion that you've bought into.
You're right. I can't see invisible gods, but neither can you. You are dishonest in saying that your viewpoint is the only viewpoint, especially when it is wrong.
ArgueExplain 9 months ago
You're acting like I see some deity but refuse to acknowledge it, as if there was an elephant in the road and I decide to keep driving at it. Meanwhile, you don't see an elephant, but you decide to swerve to avoid it anyway and then mock everyone that doesn't swerve to avoid it.
But you're not talking about elephants. You're talking about a nonexistent deity who pardons murder, rape, theft, and other sins but the one crime that is unforgivable is to not blindly believe in the supernatural.
ArgueExplain 9 months ago
@GrungeGodThenNIRVANA You all worship the same book. You know, its probably the only book you have read, and it belongs in the fiction section of the library. Who said nothingness, our energy is dispersed into everything, which is so small we havent found a way to quantify it, yet. As Richard Dawkins say "the mind is extremely susceptable to hallucination" thats how i would describe you. Have fun with your fairy tales.
MrKGatl 8 months ago
@MrKGatl Of course it is extremely susceptible to hallucination. I don't think it was the first time anyone had ever noticed that when dawkins said it. Second, who says the real hallucination isn't atheism anyway, it could be solely incapability of finding love and union through God's grace which is noone but your fault, or it could also be a perspective of destructive pride and fear. You can argue this all day long. Have fun with your contradictory flies around bull shit.
GrungeGodThenNIRVANA 8 months ago
@GrungeGodThenNIRVANA If there is a god, why would it be the Christian god? Isnt it just as likely to be Allah, Mithra, Ra? Christians seem so sure of themselves. I have lots of love in my life. Atheists, like myself, believe that life is meaningful and we can have love and compasion without a god religion. The idea that Christians have a monopoly on humanity is insulting. Atheist deal in the real world, and theists deal with fairy tales.
MrKGatl 8 months ago
@MrKGatl No.You are missing the whole point. Jesus was a real man, and we hold true as the apostles taught that He was the Christ and saviour of humanity, the true Son of God. Christianity is not Christianity without Jesus Christ, and that is the reason we BELIEVE we are right and the other religions are wrong. If there is a God,why couldn't it be the Christian?The apostles,twelve of them mind you, all saw Jesus after He had died.I don't think they were crucified for a hallucinated "fairytale."
GrungeGodThenNIRVANA 8 months ago
@GrungeGodThenNIRVANA Yes, Jesus was a real man, a man of extrodianary morals, but a man no less. He was not divine, thats what make his actions more impressive. How arrogant to believe that other religions are wrong and Christians are the only ones who have it right. Sure Jesus might have been crucified, but to believe in a resurrection is a fairy tale, just like believing in a virgin birth or immaculate conception. If there is a god, it is most likely not the christian god
MrKGatl 8 months ago
@GrungeGodThenNIRVANA
The problem is that religions are extremely self-centered and the idea of the ultimate God of the universe catering to a paltry number of people on a speck of cosmic dust is just absurd. While not impossible, the probability of it being true is incredibly low, just like the Jewish or Muslim God. 2,000 years ago, a meteorite was probably interpreted as a displeased God sending fireballs to punish his creations, so how can you be so sure about the interpretation of Jesus?
ludogogo 6 months ago
@donroche But it is still documented that the RCC did give sanctuary to some Nazi war criminals, and they were quiet about Hitler's actions, and they did not utter a word despite their full knowledge of what was going on.
Furthermore, in 1943, in the middle of the war, they even wished Hitler a Happy Birthday, showing that they still had friendly, though non-explicit, relations despite their knowledge of what was going on.
1234yersiman 11 months ago
@donroche He still used the words of the bible to justify his dirty work. And furthermore, the Roman Catholic Church supported them, by doing nothing and even giving immunity and sanctuary to many Nazi war criminals.
1234yersiman 11 months ago
I love how Dawkins uses facts not fiction.
Stevoukos 11 months ago
@donroche Indeed he was. But that is not Dawkin's point.
mrgodbehere 11 months ago 6
@mrgodbehere
Well, it was one of them wasn't it!
Thirdoptionisthename 10 months ago
@mrgodbehere Actually, I think it was. It just wasn't the ONLY point.
molewizard 8 months ago
hitler was an athiest. look into it. but other than that dawkins is good
maserati1990 11 months ago
@maserati1990 I don't have to look into it, I'm a historian. Hitler was NOT an atheist. He was a strange occultist/deist but by no means an atheist. He believed in a personal God- maybe not a standard god, but he certainly was sure of a higher power whose work he thought he was doing. His speeches and his writings are littered with it, as are many of his actions.
mrgodbehere 11 months ago
@maserati1990 Hitler spoke of Jesus in many of his speeches my friend.
shawndimery 11 months ago
As someone who's learning American Sign Language, I LOVED the look on the translator's face when he said the word "ignominious."
(Although, I guess she would be speaking British Sign Language, no?)
bacofishtaco 11 months ago
Normally i agree wholeheartedly with Richard Dawkins, but on this occasion i must point out that Just the way Adolf Hitler committed his atrocities not in the name of Athesm,Catholic Priest do not bugger boys in the name of Catholicism. There have been many travesties that were and will continue to be committed in the name of Catholicism, such as hangings, burnings, e.t.c.
NorgithDemonrace 11 months ago
@NorgithDemonrace
The problem isn't the motivation behind buggering children - it's the fact that once they have done it the Church then hushes it up and protects the priest. What should happen is that the church should hand over any evidence they have to the police, and then offer counselling to the victims. If there was negligence on the part of the church, it should pay compensation also.
AnonEyeMouse 11 months ago
@Rouseyre Except Hitler really was religous, and over history the religous have done a lot of assinine things that parallel what Hitler did.
Evnyofdeath 1 year ago
I've just uploaded a debate between Richard Dawkins and John Lennox! Check out my channel or search for -> "Has Science Buried God?" - Richard Dawkins vs John Lennox debate (1/8)
jonflatmo 1 year ago
Probably the best speach I have heard from Richard
1BustedMyth 1 year ago
@1BustedMyth Research Jeffrey Long and NDE (near death experience) over 1000 documented cases where people who have been clinically declared dead, experience heaven and hell... Even people who have been blind from birth can see what is going on in the hospital room when their spirits leave their body.. There are thousands of similiar experiences... Muslims turn into christians after their NDE too. Atheists become believers after their NDE... God, Jesus, heaven and hell are all real !!
heightboosting 11 months ago
@heightboosting Actually. That is not accurate, and Jeffrey Long is is far too inductive, putting the cart before the horse as he does. Although NDEs are similar, we all have the same chemistry and so the tunnel etc are likely natural phenomena. The experiences DO vary from culture to cultre (look up Hindu NDE's).
Also, I am privy to some 'real' empirical research that has taken decades on NDE and what they 'see' in the hospital room, and it does not corroborate your assertions at all.
mrgodbehere 11 months ago
@mrgodbehere How do do you explain this one case where a girl talked about leaving her body and going to the top roof of the hospital where she noticed a tennis shoe laying there. When she came back to life she told the nurses about it and they went up to check and found the tennis shoe this young girl was talking about and exactly how it looked like.... How can NDE patients know whats going on in completely different rooms separated with great distance in the hospital ?
heightboosting 11 months ago
@heightboosting A roof of a large building with a tennis shoe on it. Wow, how rare. it must be supernatural [sarcasm].
On analysis they almost never know any specifics of what is going on, and the 'observations' are no better than guesses: trust me, I've seen (and understand) the stats on this. Believe what you want, but I prefer to look at the 'real' data first, then draw my conclusions from attempts at its falsification, rather than the other way around.
mrgodbehere 11 months ago
@mrgodbehere This little girl has never been on this roof top, nor would her parents let her go up there... The only time she visited the roof top was when she was clinically declared dead. I do check out real data from researchers who actucally perform these studies and not from someone who just has an opinion about these cases of NDE...
heightboosting 11 months ago
@heightboosting But you don't, because you have already decided the answer. I can tell you now the the roof of the NAB at my Uni, a roof I have never been close to, probably has a shoe on it. And a traffic cone.
I do not see corroboration in the data with your view in the slightest BUT would concede the point, and shake the hands of the noble prize winner who made it, if it did.
You also discount the tens of thousands of cases where the predictions were plain wrong.
mrgodbehere 11 months ago
@mrgodbehere She fully described how the shoe looked like and what color it was.. It was a detailed description.. There are plenty of cases of NDE where patients can listen into conversations being carried out in separate rooms of the hospital far down the hallway... This is impossible unless your spirit is separated from your body during a NDE... Some people talk about NDE as an event where they almost died but were not clinically declared dead.. That type of NDE is completely different !
heightboosting 11 months ago
@heightboosting Could you please point to a newspaper or article that talked about this subject?I really want to check it for myself.
Stevoukos 11 months ago
@heightboosting, Really!, I read another document, that said Christains and Muslims turn into Athiests at the time of death and for a split second realise they have wasted their entire lives
1BustedMyth 11 months ago
Adolf hitler was an occultist.
majewskproductions 1 year ago
@majewskproductions read meine kampf and you will learn his first influence was his parish priest
LCHC1 1 year ago
It staggers me that so many people are completely missing the point of what Dawkins has to say on this.
mrgodbehere 1 year ago
@mrgodbehere Research Jeffrey Long and NDE (near death experience) over 1000 documented cases where people who have been clinically declared dead, experience heaven and hell... Even people who have been blind from birth can see what is going on in the hospital room when their spirits leave their body.. There are thousands of similiar experiences... Muslims turn into christians after their NDE too. Atheists become believers after their NDE... God, Jesus, heaven and hell are all real !!
heightboosting 11 months ago
yeah yeah yeah...
Hitler was a true cahtolic who once decided to replace all the crosses in churches svastica!
oleh2007 1 year ago
this shit is ridiculous. nothing will be solved if atheists and creationists keep on fighting.
StevenConcrete 1 year ago
Hitler was a catholic as much as I am Spider Man.
Teltaminoru 1 year ago
@Teltaminoru Cool, Spidey.
gamekidillon12 1 year ago
I love this man. Omgg <3
xMikanNamix 1 year ago