This is fantastic. I never would have associated Charles Rosen with Moriz Rosenthal. I would expect Rosen to stick to classical repetiore but I'm evidently quite wrong. he seems very much at home with the "Golden Age"
To be fair, Rosenthal never called this the "Minute Waltz in Thirds" -- that's just it's popular nickname. He titled it "Etude on the Minute Waltz of Chopin".
The Himy-Michalowski-Rosenthal transcription is much more fun to listen to and less "bulky" (for lack of a better word). Not generally a fan of these "show off" transcriptions, the above one always delights me - and will bring a smile to anyone's face.
I have been reading all the comments on this video and I feel I just have to add my tuppence worth. I absolutely adore Chopin's music. It is a delight to play and I have been learning the original version of this waltz and when i sit at the piano to play it I never want to stop. This is the first time I've hear it in thirds and I think it is absolutely beautiful and entertaining. I'm think Chopin might have written it like this himself. The style has lost nothing. Thanks for posting this.
In a live performance by Hofman he starts this piece and plays it straight as in a 'normal' recital but in the repeat he switches to this Rosenthal arrangment. What a delicious bit of surprise for the audience and, unfortunately, what an unimaginable occurance in a modern day program.
Jeez, is the piano banned from being fun? Once you lose a love for playing and enjoying your chops, you might as well pack up and become a plumber. Lighten up a bit and revel in your own badness. This kinda thing is extremely fun to play and good for picking up members of the opposite sex. And if you don't like that, heaven help you!
It's such an insubstantial piece. Rosenthal took it in hand and made some delicious fun out of it. No harm done and I for one am glad that he left us this doctored-up......paraphrase(?)
@alienalienss haha angry is definitely not the right word. i've noticed the internet has a strange way of intensifying bland emotions. i agree that this waltz is particularly lighthearted, but I can't help but think that this is just another's obnoxious attempt to show off. i compose myself, and i'd be particularly frustrated if someone did this to my compositions. im sure rosenthal ( a composer i really enjoy) meant no disrespect, however accidental rudeness is common.
To be honest I find this somewhat vulgar. The thirds are simply an attempt to show off the pianists ability, rather than pay homage to the composer. Some of the textures generated are admittedly interesting, but I find the majority of the time the added notes are merely cloying what was originally a masterpiece. Chopin's waltz needs nothing more, in the same way a Beethoven Sonata (which have in the past been altered to fit the ego of the pianist, most notably Liszt) needs no altercations.
Thanks for posting this with the score. I've had the LP for years and had scratching my head about how to load it up on YT--so, thanks again! Are you familiar with CR's early 50's recordings of the Debussy etudes?
This is insane!! In Thirds!
avb20540 2 days ago
Amazing - makes most people's fingers seem like thumbs or toes!
JOHNBFROMQEEP 3 weeks ago
I'm also shocked to hear of Mr. Rosenthal spoken of an a 'kindly" man/ But i'm delighted to hear it.
lunchmind 3 weeks ago
This is fantastic. I never would have associated Charles Rosen with Moriz Rosenthal. I would expect Rosen to stick to classical repetiore but I'm evidently quite wrong. he seems very much at home with the "Golden Age"
lunchmind 3 weeks ago
To be fair, Rosenthal never called this the "Minute Waltz in Thirds" -- that's just it's popular nickname. He titled it "Etude on the Minute Waltz of Chopin".
BofferBings 3 weeks ago
This is gold
Jim341046 4 weeks ago
chopin has been drinking lately....
gsarci2011 1 month ago
The Himy-Michalowski-Rosenthal transcription is much more fun to listen to and less "bulky" (for lack of a better word). Not generally a fan of these "show off" transcriptions, the above one always delights me - and will bring a smile to anyone's face.
MrNimblefingers36 3 months ago
very impressive technically, but i personally find it a little ridiculous.
kyleclef 4 months ago
Hopelessly difficult. How on earth does he sweep down those keys at the end???
Jim341046 6 months ago
techniquement intéressant mais musicalement sans intérêt ...
benpin31 6 months ago
I have been reading all the comments on this video and I feel I just have to add my tuppence worth. I absolutely adore Chopin's music. It is a delight to play and I have been learning the original version of this waltz and when i sit at the piano to play it I never want to stop. This is the first time I've hear it in thirds and I think it is absolutely beautiful and entertaining. I'm think Chopin might have written it like this himself. The style has lost nothing. Thanks for posting this.
rubendow 7 months ago
this piece is insane
SatanPanda 7 months ago
Anyone who wants to play this Chopin valse in thirds and fifths is absolutely insane... :)
chobeethaninov 7 months ago
In a live performance by Hofman he starts this piece and plays it straight as in a 'normal' recital but in the repeat he switches to this Rosenthal arrangment. What a delicious bit of surprise for the audience and, unfortunately, what an unimaginable occurance in a modern day program.
aardvaark069 8 months ago
I lost my shit at 0:42 !
GavMasterD 8 months ago
Whoa! Is this the original, extremely difficult version or something? I've never heard it like this before..
hayazi95 9 months ago
Jeez, is the piano banned from being fun? Once you lose a love for playing and enjoying your chops, you might as well pack up and become a plumber. Lighten up a bit and revel in your own badness. This kinda thing is extremely fun to play and good for picking up members of the opposite sex. And if you don't like that, heaven help you!
kuckorama 11 months ago
even schoenberg would turn his nose up at this
rattyboydave 1 year ago
O.O
That is hard.
LordCalvinHastings 1 year ago
It's such an insubstantial piece. Rosenthal took it in hand and made some delicious fun out of it. No harm done and I for one am glad that he left us this doctored-up......paraphrase(?)
aardvaark069 1 year ago
@alienalienss haha angry is definitely not the right word. i've noticed the internet has a strange way of intensifying bland emotions. i agree that this waltz is particularly lighthearted, but I can't help but think that this is just another's obnoxious attempt to show off. i compose myself, and i'd be particularly frustrated if someone did this to my compositions. im sure rosenthal ( a composer i really enjoy) meant no disrespect, however accidental rudeness is common.
airbornertb 1 year ago
Beautiful!
OldRabit 1 year ago
Naughty [but nice] !
gerardbedecarter 1 year ago
Pretty 'fat' textures here. This needs to be as lite as goosedown because it's just wonderful fluff.
aardvaark069 1 year ago
To be honest I find this somewhat vulgar. The thirds are simply an attempt to show off the pianists ability, rather than pay homage to the composer. Some of the textures generated are admittedly interesting, but I find the majority of the time the added notes are merely cloying what was originally a masterpiece. Chopin's waltz needs nothing more, in the same way a Beethoven Sonata (which have in the past been altered to fit the ego of the pianist, most notably Liszt) needs no altercations.
airbornertb 1 year ago
This is as enchanting as Godowsky's transcription. How fortunate you must have been to have known this great man!
sgivas 1 year ago
dude, WTF..........wow
chutdigadut 1 year ago
That would make a great encore! Great novelty
thisismymoniker 1 year ago
Thanks for posting this with the score. I've had the LP for years and had scratching my head about how to load it up on YT--so, thanks again! Are you familiar with CR's early 50's recordings of the Debussy etudes?
drzlecuti 2 years ago
Beautiful
vincefesalbon 2 years ago
Love the anecdote, and hearing the waltz in thirds, which makes for some strange overtone harmonics
cpanati 2 years ago
This is weird! I like it.
emilygclarinet 2 years ago
An amazing New Year's Day tonic! Thanks for posting the Charles Rosen notes.
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hbawayne 2 years ago 2