kurt is one of the modern classics! my personal all time favorite improviser would have to be holdsworth. i'm not being superior or anything, but the guy just has skills that people aren't supposed to have. both players are masters of their sub-genre.
another tiresome pattern filled note fest--sorry but this type of playing,pattern then cliche is old and silly regardless of the players ability and education.
@fodera6 probably one of the funniest comments ive read. but thats not to say that metallica is not good. they are musical geniuses in their own right.
i love math metal and most hardcore music but there is something about jazz and blues that im drawn to.. it's complex timings and free range of never really being sure what comes next is very refreshing. as a guitarist i feel like this is where things started in a way. unfortunately i never took the time to learn the classic music roots.... :(, but im not dead yet
I never liked this guy...and i am not too sure about his music too.I don't know it just seems to me his playing has no "Balls".The king is John Scofield for me and he is just such a great improviser that i cannot even express it with words.Don't lynch me i said i don't like him not that he sucks.
If anyone out there would like the full head trnscription as played on the album (including all chord melody, not one from compositions book) let me know and ill email it through.
sorry my comment was pretty stupid. but i do like sam rivers, eric dolphy and some of the more free jazz stuff, as well as the old school jazz like king oliver and johnny dodds, charlie parker, up through thelonius and miles and whatnot. then for other genres i like berio, xenakis, matmos, squarepusher, animals as leaders, behold the arctopus, and a bunch of other shit but yeah sorry about the dumb comment fellas. i usually dont leave comments like that.
octipi.. dude if you are boring here just go somewhere else . what are negative comments about..? peace brother.. open your heart.. this music is beautiful.. be honest. and go find some music you can enjoy if you dont like this.. kurt is doing his best, try the same..
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this shizznazy is wak!! makes me want to skip down the yellowbrick road on acid. 3/4 is wack, they should have done it in 7 like all the other jazzers love to do!
im a guitarist and ive been trying to get into this kind of music for some time but its just so boring. these guys put so much work into their instruments but the end result just sounds like an old man whispering a boring story in my ear, or something id hear in a waiting room at a clinic, or in the soundtrack to a cheap porno. either way its lame.
ROFL wow im 21 and i go to the same school kurt went to so you couldnt have been more wrong there buddy. and i do happen to know my lydian b7s and my altered scales and all those other random chordscales and use them in my music all the time. but anyways, this jazz is outdated. sam rivers was far beyond this in the 60s, that tone is generic, improving over lame choruses is generic. its all generic wankery.
@octipi dude, there are tons of guitar players at berkley, and 90% of them will be working in a local guitar shop. Also, how is this boring? its fine if you dont like it but dont call it generic. dont call it lame.
@octipi Lol there is something wrong with you... To be fair I cluldn't get into kurt for aaaages. I hope one day you get it. Cause when you do you'll be thankful for this amazing music!
@Hoopermazing I transcribed a bunch of Kurt. he plays 90% diatonic. And the notes that he chooses out of that diatonic scale end up being pentatonic. Pentatonic scales are the ones to use. I used to think that people that used a lot of penta tonics are amateur. But as one of Kurts friends told me. Pentatonic scales is where its at. If your not p,laying pentatonic something is wrong with you. It always made me think of the shitty guitar players in guitar center. But then i transcribed.
@octipi Yes! I agree! Don't let these youTube Jazz goons make you feel stupid (notice how they all come out of the woodwork as soon as you have an opinion that's less than worshipping their idol).... Sam Rivers, Muhal Richard Abrams, Joe Henderson, John Coltrane...the list goes on of great improvisers who played at the highest of levels. Kurt is pretty good, but you're right, most of these guys music (especially Fly and groups like that) is boring and sounds like over-grown college kids
What I love about kurt is his ability to take stuff from all genres of music like Keith Jarret, Marbin and Q-Tip and blend it seamlessly into his own unique style.
p.s
If you want to check out my music it's on myspace / carpimusic
please....I know It could be difficult for some people but,I suggest you to try to listen "carefully" "some" other music before writing or sayings thins like that!
@fodera6 Thats a Sheraton II Korean made, cause it has that brownish look (tobacco sunburst i think), i have Chinese one and its classic vintage sunburst,thats how i know
yeah don't worry he doesn't have any mechanical finger replacement, I should know i've studied at the man's house and this guy kicked my butt; i'm talking about mark turner
Lincoln High School in Portland OR. We don't have a really good jazz program or anything, we just have a really motivated, awesome teacher who does what ever possible to get some really hip players in the school.
OK...ZORRO..you are certainly welcome to yer opinion,but in this case,you are just plain WRONG.I just came back from hearing 2 KILLin' sets by him..and he is STUNNing,one of the best guitarists in Jazz right now..Metheny, Scofield, Martino, you name 'em,Kurt is on par with all of them.
Great chops, terrific compositions, AWEsome band, he has it ALL. You cannot POSSibly say
he is "not good" and expect to be taken seriously.. I mean come AWNN!!!
Seems really silly to debate whether one player is better than another- and don't get me wrong, Metheny IS great. I love the guy and his music; been following him for a Lonnng time... and he is a Brilliant composer- all I was trying to say was that
IMHO, Rosenwinkel is right up there as an Improviser- on a technical level, he is as good as anyone out there.
he also commented on how much he dislikes Coltrane and digs Kenny G @ Coltrane Alabama video. He just doesn't like jazz. Just a troll/jerk... Just don't comment his opinion...
Kurt's Great... I can't believe there would be argument about that. I don't know how anyone would say that this tune is 'Static' in any way. To the contrary... this tune sounds like it would be a bitch to blow over.
For Sure, I like Turner better though... Just My preference... The two remind me of Trane and Sonny. Turner being more like Trane to me at least. But Sounds nothing Like Joshua Redman though.
Not comparable with Redman. Turner is a beast and not a show man like Redman. This guys can swing like nobody! My favorite is Kenny Garrett though not Gorelick obviously:)
kurts one of the best out there who dares to go and insult him, its funny cause i know none of you could play as good as kurt hes like a lethal weapon
Look kids, if you can't see the beauty in this tune, you have no business listening to it. Compositions don't have to be great in order to be enjoyed. Try telling the people who actually like this tune (listeners like myself) that it is not a great composition.
definitly the next generation of jazz in the best form, although to mytaste it got abit too complicated and hence too much "thinking" involved and less "soul" ...
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I think that we didn't need to hear the head twice at the beginning. Once is enough for this tune, then solos, then head again. It's just not strong enough a composition to make the listener sit through it that many times. Otherwise, great playing.
have you heard the album version of this song ? i think its a masterpiece this version has skipped about 2 mins ahead , the intro is one of the best parts , it just bothered me that one would say anything negative about this tune
Since when do people get all up in arms when somebody offers an opinion about something? You might think of it as negativity, but part of a good conversation is contrasting view points. I'm not saying it's a poor composition and I'm not saying it's the best, but it is helpful to hear what people think of it. Be it "good" or "bad".
have you considered the rhythmic devices they are using in this tune? they're quite cool. tell me, do you think this song is in 3/4 or 4/4? the fact that they are implying two time signatures at the same time throughout makes this song great for me.. let alone the beautiful and original improvisation of Rosenwinkel's aswell.
Okay, Now I feel bad, and I'm sorry for all the pessimism. Yes, boo to me. I do think Kurt is an amazing player and I need to look at more of music. The improvisation here is world-class.
I'm sorry man, I shouldn't have replay the way I did. It just seems so ugly to me when people are too critical and cannot appreciate artists like Kurt. sorry again.
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Wow this is amazing this is the first time I've heard this song properly; he sounds so at home playing this song. what an absolute gift to all of us Kurt Rosenwinkel is. thanks for everything Kurt
What are you all talking about he doesnt sound like pat, he sounds like himself. Im a fan of them both and Pat is great, but Kurt is much more progressive with his solos and compositions. Of course he's influenced by metheny, everyone is but he sounds nothing like him. The lick after 5 mins is all kurt, it sounds nothing like a pat metheny lick. Their guitar tones sound nothing alike and their approach to music is not the same. And no, he doesnt use a goddamn blues scale the whole time!! Jesus!
That needed to be said! Agree 110%! This sounds not like Metheny at all. He clearly found his own voice that can be distinguished from other guitarists. Metheny sounds so much different to me... I wouldn't know how one could come up with comparing the two. Besides this: Never compare Jazz musicians and NEVER EVER tell a jazz musician he sounds like some other jazz musician, even if he does. Such a statement does hurt most jazz musicians badly... It is like saying: Your life has failed.
This is the first time I've ever heard this guy, so I can't speak objectively. But my first impression is that, yes, he is a great player. But this composition (if you're comparing KR to PM, forget the playing style) is not that interesting. I know that I need to listen to more of his work, and I wll. But I will never listen to this piece again - quite boring. I could listen to Pat Metheny all day, everyday, for the rest of my life. His composition are masterful.
I think Kurt's been on the scene long enough to say he sounds like Kurt Rosenwinkel. Metheny is his own animal, which I prefer. Metheny never fails to put me in a better mood, just don't get that from Kurt. Very interesting player though.
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well.. he is very influenced by metheny, this tune is very methney-esque (aside the acoustic-ness) and although he has an original sound, still can hear metheny very clearly in his playing, like listen to just after 5 mins. Oh well, still like Kurt's music a lot, but no match, sorry!
omfg. I can hear tosin's playing in this
oviefofah 2 months ago
the bass makes this so good
imrhyswatson 3 months ago
12 people are deaf !!!
9AMrecords 3 months ago
kurt is one of the modern classics! my personal all time favorite improviser would have to be holdsworth. i'm not being superior or anything, but the guy just has skills that people aren't supposed to have. both players are masters of their sub-genre.
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this solo alone would suffice to grant him a place in jazz history
mdudekm 5 months ago
tasteful song
dfairbanks06 5 months ago
that download link is down. can I get this any other way? Thx
elherna262 5 months ago
@elherna262 Why don't you save up ,99 cents and purchase it from Amazon?
mstott25 4 months ago
@mstott25 Because I'm not in the us and I don't have a credit card
elherna262 4 months ago
@elherna262 Oh I had no idea how hard your situation was, by all means rip Rosenwinkel off
mstott25 4 months ago
another tiresome pattern filled note fest--sorry but this type of playing,pattern then cliche is old and silly regardless of the players ability and education.
miklos379 6 months ago
THumbs up if you got here from Tosin Abasi
TheWezel1995 6 months ago
@Metallica4Ever93 Clearly a comparison to be taken seriously from someone with a username such as yours.
fodera6 8 months ago 14
@fodera6 probably one of the funniest comments ive read. but thats not to say that metallica is not good. they are musical geniuses in their own right.
4stringFanatico 7 months ago
this guy is great, but he plays to complex stuff for my taste. im sure zakk wylde can play this stuff even better than this guy
Metallica4Ever93 9 months ago
@Metallica4Ever93 Seriously, shut the fuck up
GuyKornowski 8 months ago
@Metallica4Ever93
lol
Gui222Gui 8 months ago
@Metallica4Ever93 lol
chabstickss 6 months ago
@Metallica4Ever93 haha thats cute.
str4to 4 months ago
@Metallica4Ever93 not sure if srs..
SRStrollisSRS 4 months ago
@Metallica4Ever93 i bet you're a comedian. that's hysterical!
geetar76 2 months ago
@Metallica4Ever93 it doesn't matter what you can play, its what you can create. and zakk wylde is such a gimmicky player
nickfizzle1212 2 months ago
@Metallica4Ever93 AUHEUAHEUAH
DarthBond11 4 weeks ago
TOSIN ABASI sent me here. Were you?
roseking900 9 months ago 35
@roseking900 Yes Sir !
DiminishedTB 4 months ago
i love math metal and most hardcore music but there is something about jazz and blues that im drawn to.. it's complex timings and free range of never really being sure what comes next is very refreshing. as a guitarist i feel like this is where things started in a way. unfortunately i never took the time to learn the classic music roots.... :(, but im not dead yet
burtonkid0012 10 months ago 2
@burtonkid0012 Sounds like your on an exciting journey. It's fun when the rubber hits the road.
4578a 8 months ago
I never liked this guy...and i am not too sure about his music too.I don't know it just seems to me his playing has no "Balls".The king is John Scofield for me and he is just such a great improviser that i cannot even express it with words.Don't lynch me i said i don't like him not that he sucks.
PetarAtanasov87 10 months ago
please check out my videos. Young jazz guitarist playing all or nothing at all off of east coast love affair.
maximillianayer 1 year ago
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please check out my videos. Young jazz guitarist covering some stuff off of east coast love affair.
maximillianayer 1 year ago
does anybody know a good place to find a lead sheet for this with correct voicings--as in a chord diagram with the ones he plays?
wholelottaled231 1 year ago
Hey he's not wearing a cap here =D
Vayshen 1 year ago 3
I just saw Rosenwinkel last night at the BPC playing his songs with big band arrangement. It was wicked
Minilamppost 1 year ago
what a group!
kmbackid 1 year ago
yes!!!! i always enjoy jeff ballard
mermeladadecacahuate 1 year ago
Jeff Ballard is the best drummer Rosenwinkel has ever had on this piece..
carlolaurenzi 1 year ago 3
He's not wearing his hat here.
4578a 1 year ago 2
Best time sense on the planet these three.
StKittsDave 1 year ago
Excellent demonstration Simple and too the point..
amazingguitar20 1 year ago
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sparkinup33 1 year ago
If anyone out there would like the full head trnscription as played on the album (including all chord melody, not one from compositions book) let me know and ill email it through.
Tim
notout37 1 year ago
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i do! machinewebuilt @ yahoo. c om
machinewebuilt 1 year ago
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@notout37 i would love it if youl send me the transcription!
my email is yglick1@gmail.com
thanks in advance.
yishay.
yishaiglick 1 year ago
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@notout37 i would love it if youl send me the transcription!
my email is yglick1@gmail.com
thanks in advance.
yishay.
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@notout37 That would be sweet! cheeseyburgerboy@hotmail.com send it there please! Its my old one so i dont mind spam/ giving it out here.
hartery5 1 year ago
sorry my comment was pretty stupid. but i do like sam rivers, eric dolphy and some of the more free jazz stuff, as well as the old school jazz like king oliver and johnny dodds, charlie parker, up through thelonius and miles and whatnot. then for other genres i like berio, xenakis, matmos, squarepusher, animals as leaders, behold the arctopus, and a bunch of other shit but yeah sorry about the dumb comment fellas. i usually dont leave comments like that.
octipi 1 year ago
octipi.. dude if you are boring here just go somewhere else . what are negative comments about..? peace brother.. open your heart.. this music is beautiful.. be honest. and go find some music you can enjoy if you dont like this.. kurt is doing his best, try the same..
Nu9v9 1 year ago
Pentatonic scales aren't really monotonous. you can do almost anything with them, including outside stuff. You just have to use them with open ears
wondolf 2 years ago 4
Hey koonseypoo, what the hell do you know about jazzers?
alldaytoobin 2 years ago
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this shizznazy is wak!! makes me want to skip down the yellowbrick road on acid. 3/4 is wack, they should have done it in 7 like all the other jazzers love to do!
koonseypoo1 2 years ago
You sir are an idiot.
StringTheoryMusic409 2 years ago
Awesome!
thechallengeresponse 2 years ago
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im a guitarist and ive been trying to get into this kind of music for some time but its just so boring. these guys put so much work into their instruments but the end result just sounds like an old man whispering a boring story in my ear, or something id hear in a waiting room at a clinic, or in the soundtrack to a cheap porno. either way its lame.
octipi 2 years ago
@octipi ROFL, stupid kids never fail to amuse me. Keep playing your monotonous pentatonic bullshit, kid.
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ROFL wow im 21 and i go to the same school kurt went to so you couldnt have been more wrong there buddy. and i do happen to know my lydian b7s and my altered scales and all those other random chordscales and use them in my music all the time. but anyways, this jazz is outdated. sam rivers was far beyond this in the 60s, that tone is generic, improving over lame choruses is generic. its all generic wankery.
octipi 2 years ago
Hi octipi, can you post some videos of your playing so we can all see how it's supposed to be done?
Thanks!
thechallengeresponse 2 years ago 6
@octipi dude, there are tons of guitar players at berkley, and 90% of them will be working in a local guitar shop. Also, how is this boring? its fine if you dont like it but dont call it generic. dont call it lame.
-you mock what you dont understand-
Bhab667 1 year ago 4
@octipi Lol there is something wrong with you... To be fair I cluldn't get into kurt for aaaages. I hope one day you get it. Cause when you do you'll be thankful for this amazing music!
spongey222 9 months ago
but with that being said i do love kurts work with q-tip
octipi 2 years ago
i'm sure not everyone who reads your comments only want to disaprove.
you mentionned sam rivers but you dont seem to like his style. what do YOU listen to?
gentilguy 2 years ago
@Hoopermazing I transcribed a bunch of Kurt. he plays 90% diatonic. And the notes that he chooses out of that diatonic scale end up being pentatonic. Pentatonic scales are the ones to use. I used to think that people that used a lot of penta tonics are amateur. But as one of Kurts friends told me. Pentatonic scales is where its at. If your not p,laying pentatonic something is wrong with you. It always made me think of the shitty guitar players in guitar center. But then i transcribed.
shawn195 9 months ago 3
you dont know NOTHING of music........
raikonomicron 2 years ago
@octipi Yes! I agree! Don't let these youTube Jazz goons make you feel stupid (notice how they all come out of the woodwork as soon as you have an opinion that's less than worshipping their idol).... Sam Rivers, Muhal Richard Abrams, Joe Henderson, John Coltrane...the list goes on of great improvisers who played at the highest of levels. Kurt is pretty good, but you're right, most of these guys music (especially Fly and groups like that) is boring and sounds like over-grown college kids
KingKarolus222 1 year ago
Great piece, great musicians
Marcialdrums 2 years ago 2
What I love about kurt is his ability to take stuff from all genres of music like Keith Jarret, Marbin and Q-Tip and blend it seamlessly into his own unique style.
p.s
If you want to check out my music it's on myspace / carpimusic
1983carpi 2 years ago
4:22-4:37 is the most awe-inspiring piece of music I have ever heard.
lrishmarine 2 years ago 2
Not a fucking race! this music !IDIOTS!!! THIS ART!!!
hexaphonic08 2 years ago
Deep men!!!
elboy71 2 years ago
esta banda suena sensacional!
floffunk 2 years ago
3:07-3:15 sick phrase!
jazzisforzombies 2 years ago 2
he plays somewhat of the same phrase on the album,
djmystic58 2 years ago
these arguments are stupid bullshit!!! just listen to the music and shut the fuck up!!!
mrgone78 2 years ago 6
kurt wears really funny looking pants. check out 3:57
bayc908 2 years ago 4
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this is so stupid! first he cant play guitar and i dont hear one power chord!
BRTshredfish 2 years ago
Of course he can't play guitar! Because he's a saxophone player!
:))))
denjz 2 years ago
yes finally someone knows what im talking about:) he is my favorite sax player though
BRTshredfish 2 years ago 3
don't worry, there's a technique that will work for you, it's called CRI: cranial rectal inversion...
newthings158 2 years ago 3
Nice Doctor Octagon
Goodoysters 2 years ago
please....I know It could be difficult for some people but,I suggest you to try to listen "carefully" "some" other music before writing or sayings thins like that!
smoukondeuoter 2 years ago
The most very beutiful song, kurt is a genius
wykrafael 2 years ago 2
is it ust em or is this really blurry
himynameississy 2 years ago
It's just you.
Saxyman14 2 years ago 3
Awesome playing all around!
Anyone know what make guitar he's playing here?
Thanks for posting this fodera6
bedacoals 2 years ago 4
You're welcome!
He's playing an Epiphone here. Not sure if it's a Sheraton or what but it's some kind of 335 style.
He's playing a Sadowsky now.
fodera6 2 years ago 6
@fodera6 Thats a Sheraton II Korean made, cause it has that brownish look (tobacco sunburst i think), i have Chinese one and its classic vintage sunburst,thats how i know
G36n 1 year ago
@fodera6 Saw him play D'angelico a few months ago. Also heard about him using Benedetto.
Teis9574 1 year ago
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G36n 1 year ago
@fodera6 It's Sheraton II tobacco sunburst
G36n 1 year ago
@fodera6 It is indeed a sheraton
Rg1527 1 year ago
@bedacoals It looks and sounds likan Epiphone Sheraton II.. one of the better of the "late" generation of Epi..
colgatesmile123 9 months ago
hey! what happened to featuring mark turner?
by the way timjmoran, i think zorrologie is pulling our leg...
dannybari 3 years ago
What do you mean? Mark Turner is right there.
Saxyman14 3 years ago
He cut some of his fingers off.
leomcculloch 2 years ago
He's fine, I'm seeing him next month.
Saxyman14 2 years ago
well if you're seeing him next month he must be able to play again! hooray! :)
leomcculloch 2 years ago
He's been playing again for a few months.
Saxyman14 2 years ago
Did he have some kind of mechanical finger replacement?
leomcculloch 2 years ago
No, they just put em back on.
Saxyman14 2 years ago
yeah don't worry he doesn't have any mechanical finger replacement, I should know i've studied at the man's house and this guy kicked my butt; i'm talking about mark turner
alfordeliot 2 years ago
mark turner busted shit on a saw, kinda sucks, cause don't know whether he'll ever be able to play again
himynameississy 2 years ago
he's fine now
JustinPoon93 2 years ago
Yeah, hes totally fine now. He was at my school today with jeff ballard and larry grenadier (fly trio) doing a clinic.
Derpasherpala 2 years ago
sickkk what school do you go to?
TheHatersBall 2 years ago
Lincoln High School in Portland OR. We don't have a really good jazz program or anything, we just have a really motivated, awesome teacher who does what ever possible to get some really hip players in the school.
Derpasherpala 2 years ago
who do you mean? ((:
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I don't like Kurt, he is not a good guitar player, no technic
Zorrologie 3 years ago
OK...ZORRO..you are certainly welcome to yer opinion,but in this case,you are just plain WRONG.I just came back from hearing 2 KILLin' sets by him..and he is STUNNing,one of the best guitarists in Jazz right now..Metheny, Scofield, Martino, you name 'em,Kurt is on par with all of them.
Great chops, terrific compositions, AWEsome band, he has it ALL. You cannot POSSibly say
he is "not good" and expect to be taken seriously.. I mean come AWNN!!!
timjmoran 3 years ago 5
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No Way that Kurt is on par with Metheny both in playing and composing. just look at metheny playing and career.
I don't know what Martino does on your list. Great guitar player but like in the 70's, post Montgomery.
Kurt is with the Ben Monder, Mike Moreno, Adam rogers, Misja Fitzgerald-Michel. Scofield is great but has not done anything new since A gogo.
Metheny is already a legend and probably the best guitar player and guitar composer ever. full stop
Multiac 2 years ago
Seems really silly to debate whether one player is better than another- and don't get me wrong, Metheny IS great. I love the guy and his music; been following him for a Lonnng time... and he is a Brilliant composer- all I was trying to say was that
IMHO, Rosenwinkel is right up there as an Improviser- on a technical level, he is as good as anyone out there.
timjmoran 2 years ago 15
metheny is good but you need to calm down kurt is the shit
trauma15 2 years ago 3
haha.
Kapteinar 2 years ago
Hi,
he also commented on how much he dislikes Coltrane and digs Kenny G @ Coltrane Alabama video. He just doesn't like jazz. Just a troll/jerk... Just don't comment his opinion...
zynnetrix 3 years ago 2
oh damn i was thinking i gueess its possble its in an alternate tuning, but that would be crazy. the intro is crazy, if you have the cd
trauma15 3 years ago
It would've been nice to hear M.T.'s solo...
Kurt's Great... I can't believe there would be argument about that. I don't know how anyone would say that this tune is 'Static' in any way. To the contrary... this tune sounds like it would be a bitch to blow over.
Just sayin...
n72mcvey 3 years ago
is there a chance that some one could have the rest of the tune??????
qban3player 3 years ago
Or this whole show perhaps?
Putytand 3 years ago
Kurt Rosenwinkel is a german name. his roots must be in germany
guitarjoe12345 3 years ago
Not his roots... maybe his grand grand whatever parents roots. He was born in Philadelphia.
zynnetrix 3 years ago
Kurt is German
Multiac 2 years ago
is the guitar tuned down a half step? I'm learning this song but I think he uses his Bb string often...
jagpower0704 3 years ago
yeah i heard it is played in an alternate tuning
joebandana 3 years ago
tenor player sounds like joshua redman
jazzsax77 3 years ago
no its mark turner not joshua redman don't get it twisted mark turner is way different than josh
alfordeliot 3 years ago
For Sure, I like Turner better though... Just My preference... The two remind me of Trane and Sonny. Turner being more like Trane to me at least. But Sounds nothing Like Joshua Redman though.
RickyJacksonOnline 3 years ago
Not comparable with Redman. Turner is a beast and not a show man like Redman. This guys can swing like nobody! My favorite is Kenny Garrett though not Gorelick obviously:)
Multiac 2 years ago 2
maestro tocas divino !!! quiero tocar como tu
cuerdasucia 3 years ago
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weak tune ,great player
earsoup 3 years ago
yes it's like a post-metheny waltz for debby - good observation!
leomcculloch 3 years ago
kurts one of the best out there who dares to go and insult him, its funny cause i know none of you could play as good as kurt hes like a lethal weapon
jazzguitar1221 3 years ago
hey` why don`t you guys stop arguing and listen to my FART instead.. tell me if you love it.
ebutuvul 3 years ago
Look kids, if you can't see the beauty in this tune, you have no business listening to it. Compositions don't have to be great in order to be enjoyed. Try telling the people who actually like this tune (listeners like myself) that it is not a great composition.
tenneymj 3 years ago
definitly the next generation of jazz in the best form, although to mytaste it got abit too complicated and hence too much "thinking" involved and less "soul" ...
yohenson 3 years ago
I agree. Beautiful nonetheless.
Ladyson 3 years ago
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I think that we didn't need to hear the head twice at the beginning. Once is enough for this tune, then solos, then head again. It's just not strong enough a composition to make the listener sit through it that many times. Otherwise, great playing.
gtrs4life 3 years ago
not strong enough composition? lol which listeners are you speaking of??? yourself??? sorry that is ridiculous in MY opinion
venturegtr 3 years ago
Okay, I understand. But when did vapid and static jazz compositions become great? I guess along with music in all other styles. Yes?
gtrs4life 3 years ago
have you heard the album version of this song ? i think its a masterpiece this version has skipped about 2 mins ahead , the intro is one of the best parts , it just bothered me that one would say anything negative about this tune
venturegtr 3 years ago
Since when do people get all up in arms when somebody offers an opinion about something? You might think of it as negativity, but part of a good conversation is contrasting view points. I'm not saying it's a poor composition and I'm not saying it's the best, but it is helpful to hear what people think of it. Be it "good" or "bad".
P.S.
I think this is a good performance.
MontgomerylandFunk 3 years ago
have you considered the rhythmic devices they are using in this tune? they're quite cool. tell me, do you think this song is in 3/4 or 4/4? the fact that they are implying two time signatures at the same time throughout makes this song great for me.. let alone the beautiful and original improvisation of Rosenwinkel's aswell.
joebandana 3 years ago
3/4
Saxyman14 3 years ago
"Vapid and static" is a little strong, doncha think? I hear some changes. And by your logic, 'All Blues' and 'Impressions' are not great.
3shiftgtr 3 years ago
Yeah, boo to you and your comment. Boo I say.
WesMetheny 3 years ago
Okay, Now I feel bad, and I'm sorry for all the pessimism. Yes, boo to me. I do think Kurt is an amazing player and I need to look at more of music. The improvisation here is world-class.
gtrs4life 3 years ago
I'm sorry man, I shouldn't have replay the way I did. It just seems so ugly to me when people are too critical and cannot appreciate artists like Kurt. sorry again.
Putytand 3 years ago
Idiot
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sosodinos87 3 years ago
Kurt Rosenwinkel...the man from another planet
lugk14 3 years ago
Wow this is amazing this is the first time I've heard this song properly; he sounds so at home playing this song. what an absolute gift to all of us Kurt Rosenwinkel is. thanks for everything Kurt
joebandana 3 years ago 2
What are you all talking about he doesnt sound like pat, he sounds like himself. Im a fan of them both and Pat is great, but Kurt is much more progressive with his solos and compositions. Of course he's influenced by metheny, everyone is but he sounds nothing like him. The lick after 5 mins is all kurt, it sounds nothing like a pat metheny lick. Their guitar tones sound nothing alike and their approach to music is not the same. And no, he doesnt use a goddamn blues scale the whole time!! Jesus!
wawee9 3 years ago
That needed to be said! Agree 110%! This sounds not like Metheny at all. He clearly found his own voice that can be distinguished from other guitarists. Metheny sounds so much different to me... I wouldn't know how one could come up with comparing the two. Besides this: Never compare Jazz musicians and NEVER EVER tell a jazz musician he sounds like some other jazz musician, even if he does. Such a statement does hurt most jazz musicians badly... It is like saying: Your life has failed.
zynnetrix 3 years ago
This is the first time I've ever heard this guy, so I can't speak objectively. But my first impression is that, yes, he is a great player. But this composition (if you're comparing KR to PM, forget the playing style) is not that interesting. I know that I need to listen to more of his work, and I wll. But I will never listen to this piece again - quite boring. I could listen to Pat Metheny all day, everyday, for the rest of my life. His composition are masterful.
"Blues scale", that's funny.
gtrs4life 3 years ago
I think Kurt's been on the scene long enough to say he sounds like Kurt Rosenwinkel. Metheny is his own animal, which I prefer. Metheny never fails to put me in a better mood, just don't get that from Kurt. Very interesting player though.
LoveTruck 3 years ago
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well.. he is very influenced by metheny, this tune is very methney-esque (aside the acoustic-ness) and although he has an original sound, still can hear metheny very clearly in his playing, like listen to just after 5 mins. Oh well, still like Kurt's music a lot, but no match, sorry!
leomcculloch 3 years ago
love so much more than metheny..
lugk14 3 years ago
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Absolutely amazing guitar player... Truly reminds me of Metheny, and he's probably the only player I know that manages to do so
Maugister 3 years ago
In a way her reminds of him, but he has a completely different style as well...
nadavnaz2 3 years ago
WOW!!!. He's amazing!!!
xjazz1 3 years ago
beautuful
davens99 3 years ago
Take a solo Mark!
ogulkoker 3 years ago
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I love how he uses the blues scale all the way through this
Jazzboogaloo 3 years ago
haha nice one
matgelakt 3 years ago
Kurt is the greatest.
jazzcat4on6 3 years ago
wow, these guys sure know how to groove.
Dandan253 3 years ago
o man i just got this cd, never heard anything like it except for metheny maybe, man...
jazzguitar1221 3 years ago
Absolutly genious! Man this guy knows how _this_ time feels! What a great player!
zynnetrix 3 years ago
kurt entiende todo veni a argentina
estebanfreytes 3 years ago
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krimpman 4 years ago
still so fresh!
bozodam 4 years ago
god, just a god
jazzguitar1221 4 years ago
Nem tudom, miért van oda mindenki ezért... annyira nem nagy szám a csávó. Jó, nem is rossz, de nem seggeltem le.
nemesekernyo 4 years ago
kurt is awesome, ilove his compositions
sl0241 4 years ago
kurt rocks my socks!!
patfreecat 4 years ago 2
is it possible that here kurt is playing in standard tuning???? ...cause i found some chords just looking at his hands
purchi 4 years ago
i think it's drop D tuning.
trappedsoul7 4 years ago
I think its actually E flat tuning
edigiam2007 3 years ago
really I wanna see him. but fuck i'm in japan
I really am jealous ppl in US or europe.you guys are super lucky men!
takauya 4 years ago 4