Who's to blame? Fucking communists are to blame! Let's not mince words or over-analyze this. Here are two basic facts:
1) If left alone, PEOPLE WILL FEED THEMSELVES. They will do it by planting crops, hunting animals, raising chickens, pigs, cows, etc.
2) With the exception of a long term drought, mass starvation ONLY occurs when a CENTRALIZED AUTHORITY (ie government, army, gang) PREVENTS others from growing food or forces them to redistribute the food they produce.
For the russians it took almost 70 years to admitt and apologise for the Katyn massacre. In this mass murder over 20.000 thousand Polish MIlitary and Public officials were executed. If after 70 years russians admitted 25.000 victims of the Katyn, 10.000.000 victimes of holodomor genocide will never be admitted. Its just the nature of russians to not take blame and responsibilities for their horrific crime. I feel deep sympathy for Ukrainians but counting on that Russians will admitt is sensless
Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Nobel Prize winner who spent 8 years in Gulag labor camps and 3 years in exile and who is hardly a "Communist regime sympathizer" wrote about the Holodomor campaign in 2008:
"This provocateurs outcry about "genocide" began to emerge decades later - first secretly, in the musty chauvinistic minds, viciously opposed to "Muscovites" - and now ascended to government circles of today's Ukraine, to surpass even the dashing swirls of Bolshevik propaganda "
what kind of economic policy? taking away all the food from all the farmers and the people who lived in villages isn't quite economical, and ofcaurse they dind't learn in in history class, it was supposed to be hidden. Do you expect to hear any truth from a russian television station about a crime they did themselves? About the holocaust everybody talks, but no-one knows this
THESE RUSSIAN JEWS ON RT DENY THE FACT THE HOLOMODOR Was a genocide act and a crime!!!!!!!!! You stupid russian jews I hope you all are killed off you evil bastards. I don't just hope I will help get rid of you!
There never was any hollowdomore, it was disinformation by the gestapo to justifie to the rest of the world the future "liberation" of the region by Germany, a liberation for the future of the German people, as most locals where to be moved beyond the Urals, lol!
Funny that "ukrainian" pseudo-nationalists repeates the lines of a regime that considered them walking animals, as if their beloved jew-owned, banan republic "ukraine" today wasn´t enough.
@Fridaey13txhOktober Holodomor was made right in the year when Hitler camed to power. 10 million died killed by starvation, how could the nazis make this up? Even Stalin himself admited when he was asked by CHuchill. Go read some more you buttkissing commie fanatic
@siralucard19 In one of the best history documentaries ever made ''World War 2 Behind Closed Doors'' in one if the part Churchill was arquing with Stalin over some issues and one of these Churchill asked what had happened to all the peasants who refused forced collectivisation, Stalin just simply and without avoiding any inconviences answered ''We just killed them'' so Stalin himself admitted the fact of mass murder of peasants
Who is to blame? Capitalists of course. And Kulaks (Kurkuls). Don't forget Capitalists. Or maybe the plow broke. It could have been the evil priests. Or maybe all the babas were really Western spies. Perhaps Stalin was just really hungry and ate all the food. Oh well, just keep ignoring the obvious answer: Bolshevik Communists. It has worked so far. Just kidding. It was the Capitalists. And the Babas. And the rain or lack of rain. Or a flat tire. Or Trotsky.
What absolute nonsense. Stalin murdered 10 million Ukrainians. How dare you call yourself a historian. Holodomor happened. Can.t believe you lie, distort and the video is still available.
The Jews caused the famine. To the Jews farming is the lowest form of occupation and it says in their Talmud that we the Gentiles (white people) are to farm and they (the Jews) are to reap the rewards of the Gentiles. FUCK THE jEWS!!!
Wasn't the exile of the kulaks really really stupid? The wealthiest farmers would, logically, be the best farmers. Bolsheviks would say that the kulaks aren't the best and that they just took advantage of the poor farmers, right? I think that philosophy is why 20th century communism failed. In a capitalist society, the wealthiest members of a particular field tend to be the best. Communists would disagree, but I think they're just wrong.
In case this Russian "journalist" really doesn't know (which to me is simply unbelievable), here is just one name to get you started about this mass atrocity --
It's incredible that seemingly intelligent, or at least educated, people can continue to defend the indefensible, deny the undeniable, and promote the preposterous. Namely that Russians i.e. the Soviet Bolsheviks are somehow not responsible for the Holodomor specifically, and millions of other victims in general. This is beyond the pale. One must be either delusional, morally bankrupt, or demented to describe the actions of butchers with such deliberate misrepresentations (a fancy word for lies)
The Soviet Russians directed its genocide attack on these particular strata of the Ukrainian people:
1). The Ukrainian peasantry, which was to be destroyed as a "class enemy";
2) The Ukrainian intelligentsia was earmarked for destruction under the appellation of "Ukrainian bourgeois Nationalists";
3) The Ukrainian Orthodox Autocephalic Church was an obstacle in cementing the barbarous rule of Russian Communism in Ukraine, and had to be ruthlessly destroyed.
The Soviets decided to destroy a growing independent Ukraine in the 1920's under Otomon Simon Petliura, who was assasinated by Bolesheviks in Paris in 1926. The man made famine was ordered by decree to wipe out growing Ukrainian nationalism and patriotism. By order of the Soviet government, a directed genocide attack toward the extermination of a great part of the Ukrainian nation was launched in 1929-1933.
How on earth can 5 or 6 million people be starved to death not intentionally? How could it not be intentionally when the army and the NKVD were sent to quash the peasant upheavals? How could it not be deliberately, when the NKVD was in charge of collecting the grain and watching the wheat fields? The soviet power knew perfectly about the tragedy, and it continued with the same policy. So the famine was provoked intentionally.
I keep seeing the figure of 10mln Ukrainians killed by "bloody Russians"
just looked up in Wiki "Demographics of Ukraine"
According to Wiki the population of UkrSSR in 1931 was:
1931[11] 23,263,000
that means nearly every SECOND Ukrainian was "genocided" ? (a great part of the population of the Ukraine despite Bolshevik Ukrainization of the 20s was Russian too)
Do these guys who are campaigning for 'Genocide' do math at all?
Most local top Bolsheviks collecting grain were Ukrainians btw...
In 2008, the government of Ukraine, the United States, the Senate of Canada, UNESCO and the United Nations joined more than 40 jurisdictions around the world to officially condemn the famine and recognize it as genocide.
Too bad no one cares about the Holodomor even thought it murdered more than the Holocaust in ONE year. Guess the lives of Jews are worth more than Ukrainians.
JEWS COMMUNIST ARE RESPONSIBLE....JUDEO BOLSHEVICK STATE ! russian people are not responsible cause ukrainians are brothers. JEWS JEWS JEWS google it ''commie jewish killers''
To understand what really happend see plp.org slash books slash Stalin slash book dot html
Its the complete book of Ludo Martens "Another view of Stalin" . Anybody with few basic knowledge what communism really means will understand why this is true.
The reason of famine was the western supported war of Kulags and Tzarist against government. They burned down fields, killed the free communist farmers and destroyed their new acricultural machinery. Nevertheless - finally the soviets became the scientifically and economically the most developed country. During the so-called "world" economic crisis around 1929 USSR had growthrates over 20 percent for years! Despite total damage by the NAZI war the US and German capitalists organized.
socialism - in its both incernations ; national socialism (nazizm) and international one (bolshevism) were the most deadly and criminal experiments in the history of mankind.
simply because leftist "intellectuals" in the West - so called "useful idiots" - commie's crimes cannot be judged and punished
watch "YURI BEZMENOV" ON THE "ideological subverion " of the west mad eby commie propagadna - its scary how its relevant!
If u say: "there was no Holocaust- the nazis didint kill anyone" u get up to 4 YEARS of prison!
But when u say: "Stalin and Mao and Lenin etc didnt kill anyone "- it is tolerated!
Nazisms killed around 20 Mio people thats horrible
But compared to the 100 -150 Mio dead of communisms its nothing!
Even TODAY Communism mass killing continues North Korea etc still no one seems to care. but when u say something "wrong" about WW2 like Nicolson Baker or Patrik Buchanan ur screwed
The ones responsible for this deliberately killed thousands of Ukrainian intellectuals as well. This was truly a deliberate act of genocide born out of racial hatred. You don't here of it because the perpetrators were Jews.
In early 1920 , Lazare KAGANOVITCH was already nick named " the Ukrainian pest " for he perpetrated large slaughters in that country. He was born in Ukrainia and , as a Jew , seem to be hating his fellow countrymens . In 1930 , he had reach the top of soviet power , and with the help of other Jews he had promoted ( Lev Mekhlis ) he organized the final solution for his former Ukrainian fellows . World jewish Order knows well this responsability , that's why they forbid this story !
The living relatives of the Mass Murderer Jews have to pay reperations to us for what they did. They owe us so much, don't let them get away with this. When ever you hear a Jew cry about the holocaust tell them about what they did to us.
There was around 10million murdered,by the Jewish Bolshevik's in the Ukraine,how many people hear of this holocaust?no one! The Jewish controlled media would not want people to know about their despicable past.The same answer applies to your other question,Jewish controlled media is obviously going to tell the people to support Israel.
The Khazarian Jews infiltrated our European countries centuries ago,but I'm sure you know all this.
Are you sitting in Tel Aviv,getting paid for this?
The Ukrainian Government needs to hold criminal trials against the Boleshevik Russian Jews who murdered millions of innocent Ukrainians. The Jews do not want to be implicated and have skirted this devastining tragedy (their own Walter Duranty of New York Times never reported a famine to the United States). They DO CONTROL ALL OF THE MEDIA AND ARE NOW EMBARRASED THAT THEY ARE TO BLAME. UKRAINE WILL NOT REMAIN INDEPENDENT FOR TOO LONG BECAUSE OF THIS.
I watched a programme where Foxman of the ADL was having a meeting with the Ukrainian prime minister,he was essentially threatening their government to keep quiet.These Dews get away with mass murder and claim were being anti-Semites if we speak.
The thing is that they may seem very powerful,but they live in a house of cards!
THIS IS TRUE HISTORY! READ THE BOOK" Execution by Hunger~ The Hidden Holocaust" by Miron Dolot, where over 10 million Ukrainians were intentionally starved to death under the hands of STALIN, and that Ukrainians lived in the breadbasket of Europe was ironic. This was left out of history for a reason! The Russian Communist Bolesheviks are responsible for their deaths! Stop denying this happened RUSSIA, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE! This WAS A DELIBERATE CRIME! MURDERERS!
@Slavachka1 Russia !! As if Russian wher not as well and first victims of politrouks and the dread system ? It's a bit easy to kill the first dog you meet . Until mankind clears exactly the devices which led to this 74 years of human crushing , please , no one can shorten the story . The part plaid by Jews of communist nomenklatura has to be checked too , because the man who decide the slaughter was Lazare Kaganovitch : ukrainian born jew whose nick name was the "calamity of Ukrainia" .
Vsevolod Balitsky, nationality – Ukrainian, birth place – Dnepropetrovsk oblast (Ukraine). In 1932 –OGPU (KGB) special commissioner. His task was “unconditional fulfillment of state grain procurements” in Ukraine.
In 1933 – Chairman of Ukrainian GPU (KGB).
Stanislav Kosior, nationality – Jew, birth place – Sedlets oblast (Poland), First Secretary of Central Committee of Communist Party (Bolsheviks) of Ukraine (1928 – 1938), actual ruler of Ukraine.
Vlas Chubar, nationality –Ukrainian, birth place – Zaporozh`e oblast (Ukraine). Chairman of Sovnarkom (Government) of Ukraine (1923-1934). Signed ruefully famous Resolution “About struggle against sabotage in state grain procurement”.
Panas Lybchenko, nationality – Ukrainian, birth place – Kiev oblast (Ukraine).
"Ukrainization has been and will be enforced with most
decisive measures ... Whoever does not understand or does not want to understand cannot be considered by the Government anything other than a counterrevolutionary and conscious or unconscious enemy of the Soviet Power"
Mykola Skrypnyk (1872–1933) - Proponent of the Ukrainian Republic's independence, leader of the cultural Ukrainization in Soviet Ukraine. Creator of Ukrainian alphabet. Member of CHEKA Police (see Wikipedia) 1917-18
Russians: Ukrainians do not belong to you, they never have been Russians and never will be! This completely infuriates me, and I'm bloody 1/2 Polish not Ukrainian!!! I will stand up for my Ukrainian brethren against the common foe. I'm proud of being anti-Russian (not the people, just the government) because I have all the right to be. Stop being so bloody arrogant, and remember that you ruled the 2nd most evil, corrupt and destructive government in history, the Soviet Union. One word: Stalin
@VaragianPrince I hate to break this to you, but firstly the Kievan Rus elite were NOT Russian, but Scandinavians. Over a long time they gradually assimilated into the Russian mass culture.
Secondly, Ukrainians have a very strong claim to an entirely distinct "Ruthenian" branch of Slavs that NEVER linked to the "Great Russian" Slavs. Ukrainians are technically Red Ruthenians, Byellorussians are White Ruthenians.
Thirdly, Ukrainians have a completely different Unrussian culture and language.
@Xanaseb "Long" time = 2 generations at that time = 40 years. From Rurik to Oleg in 40 years. A fucking long time. And so you admit that the Varagians were assimilated into a Russian culture over todays modern Ukraine? It is all the proof i need. Bye bye.
Oh yeah, I'll give you three blatant reasons why there's little photographic evidence.: 1: The USSR is notorious for censorship and destroying documents 2: Ukrainians could not get there hands on camera equipment! They were bloody starving and impoverished for God sake! 3: Any Russian who took any evidence would have been shot for treason against the state.
Finally, does anyone think that Putin and his pals may have put false accusations of the photos being from 1921 famines?
@0775320447 read "EXECUTION BY HUNGER~THE HIDDEN HOLOCAUST" written over 25 years ago, where 10 million Ukrainians located in the breadbasket of Europe, were intentionally starved to death under the hands of RUSSIAN COMMUNIST BOLESHEVIK JEWS! THE RUSSIAN JEWS NEED TO TAKE RESPONSIBLITY FOR THEIR CRIMES AGAINST UKRAINIANS AND STAND TRIAL IN A COURT OF LAW! THERE IS PLENTY OF WITNESSES AND EVIDENCE!!
When I went to college in the early '70's I learned that communism created the worker's paradise and everyone was happy. Are these all lies? Or did my highly educated, erudite professors not have a clue what they were talking about? When I mentioned Stalin's and Mao's purges I was mocked and almost laughed out of class.
Why is it that this Jew/Communist geocide committed on the Indo-Europeans of Ukraine not deemed important enough to mention in the history books? Is the 11million that were butchered by the Jews not worthy of a mention in History?No we are only allowed to hear of the few hundred thousand Jews that died in camps in WW2 which maraculously becomes 6 million.Pathetic.Awaken from Jewish mind control!
Юридическая комиссия Парламентской Ассамблеи Совета Европы одобрила внесенные представителем Великобритании поправки к докладу и проекту резолюции о голоде в СССР, предложив признать его Голодомором и геноцидом украинского народа.
The Ukraine was the wheat growing breadbasket of Europe.but in 1932 most Ukrainian christian rebelled against the Jewish Bolsheviks for independence.The communist bolsheviks headed by Stalin sent in the red army to confiscate all the food,a nightmare ensued.The forced famine killed 10million Ukrainians.Holodomor as it is know was a Zionist controlled mass murder which many think as the real Holocaust.
What? The famine in the Ukraine was a Zionist plot? Then why did Israel ally with the west? And why are so many Christians pro-Israel? Hmmmm. Very interesting!
ok, so the historian states that the soviet authorities made a hard and conscious decision to "redistribute" food and cause starvation, yet they didnt consciously didnt cause a genocide. way to go. wow. this is kick ass top notch logics.
anyway, communists should get over the defensive attitude. this allegation makes sense, even from a commie point view. yet he tends to say that death can be beneficial. do all of the defendants of communism agree?
The Holodomor killed 6 million White Christian Ukranians. Who is to blame? Ultimately the blame can be traced to the jews, no question about it. This is precisely why they have tried so hard to hide the existence of the Holodomor all together (as opposed to the jews constantly promoting the Holocaust against them from any and every angle possible). Just typical jew business.
How is possible that all the communist are defending Stalin? Could it be that they are dishonest and unable to admit that there was anything wrong with their system? That's a first proof of dishonesty. People don't want to live in a system where you are arrested for critisizing the leader or the party. Then you are send to camps..I don't like WTO but this is shit too..
If you argue like this historican, you could also say that the Holocaust wasnt a genocide... it was a political "choice". They had to kill these people to get the money to buy oil and steel...
just propoganda? That is absurd. I am a Russian from Kuban. My parents had no reason to lie to me about this. The famine occured in the Kuban as in Ukraine. Many people died because of the evel doings by the communists. While starving and killing their people the food was shipped to India as a 'gift from Russian people' . Only mentally ill people and goverments are capable to do this.
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Why would Stalin and VKP(b) want to kill tribillions of Ukranians and Kubanoids by starving them, to death? What would be their political reasoning? To have more enemies or collect less in taxes?
The was a famine, yes, and in 1947 as well - but this happened frequently in Russia just like in Bangladesh - because of harsh climate and lack of mechanization
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10 million people is bullshit. There were 100,000,000 millions who died only in one Ukranian viullage. no surprise Ukranians fought bravely for the Soviet Union just 8 years later against Hitler
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Those Ukranians who fought against "tyranny of Stalin" in the glorious Nazi ranks were fucking Polish citizens with their unofficial capital in Lemberg - they did not starve at all sure thing.
IvanKolosnik, there is no use discussing this with you. Obviously you did not live in that time and did not suffer the wrath of Stalin and communism. The famine was not natural but man made by Stalin and the rest of he communists. Don't bother replying, I'm done saying what has to be said.
Gotta love the "american imperialism" accusers. If we're the ruthless dictators the world makes us out to be why is the USA the number one provider of food and foreign aid in the world to all countries, Has the HIGHEST immigration in the entire world and has the most recognized and exported "evil capitalist corporations" in the world? Jealousy is a horrible thing, but i welcome the criticism, when you're the most generous and powerful nation, people are gonna throw stones your way.
Billysands, do not talk as though the Russians chose the Bolsheviks. Hardly anyone in Russia even knew who they were when they mounted their German sponsored coup against the gov't. The German High Command sent Lenin in as a Quisling style stooge, so as to cause chaos behind enemy lines. That aid from the German's is the only reason the Bolsheviks had an advantage. All communists are quislings, from the beginning.
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame. "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" —Emma Lazarus, 1883
Um yyeah, they needed to fulfill contracts so they made a tough choice to do so, knowing that millions of people will die. However, it wasnt a crime, because they didn't intend to starve millions of people. What kind of fucked up logic is that? Hey, wipe off the milk off your lips, historian.
names? you pathetic shit..you cant convicen someone like you off anything you are willfully blind to obvious evidence
scholars objective scholars have prooven fairly that stalin starved about 7 million people in the ukraine and hitler killed 6 million jews these figures are widely acepted by rational minds
extremist idiots on the left and right
refuse to accept reality because it conflicts withtheir pathetic delusions
there nothing i can say or do to convince nazis or commies of their crimes
you russians really arent very bright i'm glad..your really not much of a threat to the USA your weapons are shit your army is shit yyou society is xenophobic and ruled by intimidation and fear i feel bad for you..i've met many
russian immmigrants here..almost all are very nice smart people
its an old anti semite nazi trick to accuse jews of being at the same time being responsible for communism and internationa capital which is contradictory
and non sensiscal yet feeble minds fall for it..what actualy is the case(again i'm not jewish) is that jews tended to be intellectuals basically smarter and better educated than the general population
of germany and russia
so naturally they would be over rpesented in intelelctual
Millions of Slavians died in labour/Death camps. Posessions were taken away. Priests were shot and churches were burned to the ground. People were simply executed without trial on the streets.
Stalin was born on December 18, 1878 in Gori, Georgia to a family of limited financial means in a town plagued by gang warfare and street brawls. At seven, he conducted smallpox, which permanently scarred his face. At twelve, two horse-drawn carriage accidents left his left arm permanently damaged. At ten, he began attending a church At sixteen, he received a scholarship to a Georgian Orthodox seminary, where he wrote poetry and rebelled against being forced to speak Russian.
It is a matter of honor with me to be absolutely clean and unequivocal in relation to anti-Semitism, namely, opposed to it, as I am in my writings. I have recently been persecuted with letters and Anti-Semitic Correspondence Sheets. My disgust with this party (which would like the benefit of my name only too well!) is as pronounced as possible,
anti semetic the virilent anti semitism that existed amongsts slavs is shamefull and the "genocide" commited was commited by slavs against slavs look at yugoslavia..like many ethnic groups that hate and envy people that do better than themselves(which is what jew hatred is mosty envy of crude slavs against a more intellectual sophisticated culture)it is an old story minorities in USA resent
the successfull and BLAME them for the misfortunes they bring on themseles
instead of accepting responsibility and trying to correct your own problems
all cultures do this individuals do this
but some are more guilty than others
the jews have done better than you so you envy them..solve your own problems and stop blaming the jews..its so easy to destroy and hard to build..isnt slavic culture noitroius for always hating each toehr too.. look what happened in bosnia
when The Observer contacted Sir Martin Gilbert, the eminent historian and Churchill biographer, the implication of anti-Semitism began to unravel. Gilbert, who also has a book out this summer, said the article was not written by Churchill at all, but rather his ghost writer, Adam Marshall Diston. He added that Churchill`s instructions for the article were different in both tone and content from what Diston eventually wrote,
He added that Churchill`s instructions for the article were different in both tone and content from what Diston eventually wrote, and pointed out that Diston was a supporter of Oswald Mosley, the notorious fascist and anti-Semite. Churchill had stopped its publication in a newspaper.
yeah we kicked there asses and they cry losers like you! you cry because you are the bottom if we were stupid we would care i just laugh at your backwards ass
its easier to cry than make your life better.
the whole crap about indians is exaggerated most died of diesease
in reality those savages killed more whites than we killed them
The 1866 Emancipation Manifesto proclaimed the emancipation of the serfs on private estates and of the domestic (household) serfs. By this edict more than twenty-three millions received their liberty.[1] Serfs were granted the full rights of free citizens, gaining the rights to marry without having to gain consent, to own property and to own a business. The Manifesto prescribed that peasants would be able to buy the land from the landlords.
stop blaming the jews or the turks or whoever for your problems and instead try to improve yourself go to school learn a trade..math finance..toaster repair
learn to respect other epoples culture instead of resenting and hating
i just drags your whole society down
AMERICA embraces all hard working immigrants jews and russian
Jews are great people, there is no hating at all. Jacob Schiff financed the bolshevik with millions of dollars. He even stated that the Russians should be defeated no matter what it will cost.
USA is cursed, you live on the cursed land so called of freedom. You wiped out the natives of your countries putted them in concentration and labour camps. You genocided them. Why should people get allong if muslim children are dying every day, you occupy and invade territories illegal.
The government is satanic and the land is cursed. In Europe everyone hates you.
save your bigotry and resentment fir some feebleminded fool.i know most of the "quotes" you people make are completeley fabricated the rest are teken out of context..get over it..as hegal said the history of the world is a slaughterblock every one can cry like a little girl if thats is all they want to do
the irish had the potato famine negros had slavery almost every people can cry of victimization and morons like you blame it all on the jews with your made up"facts"
No one is blaming the jewish nation. The facts aren't in history books, genocide should be recognized like the Turks should recognize the Armenian one.
lets talk about why russia has ALWAYS BEEN a backwards cruel place.your tsars and your religion your orthodox false version of christianity.nations that
were kind to jews and allowed freedom of religion and freedom to the common people like america or western europe did better your backwards tsar and orthodix church were absolutist
and repressive they created communism
not the jews.. like the british created the ira by mistreating the irish the russian
by deleiberately keeping the average russian backwards and in fuedal slavery long after the west had abolished fuedalism and embraced enlightenement values
we have resolved many of our problems all societies have ghosts slavery
native americans
but that is the past we redressed those problema long ago you still liive with your ghosts
Well that is what I call brainwashed ignorant typical american propaganda. You sure know nothing.
Russian Empire did very well the few centuries it was expanding, it had latest military technology, it fed whole Europe and even America with its grain and it had golden coin currency which was accepted in the whole wide world. Industry was growing and eventually became one of the world leading industries.
from first contact (1511) to the closing of the frontier (1890), and determined that 9,156 people died from atrocities perpetrated by Native Americans, and 7,193 people died from retaliations perpetrated by whites. Osborn defines an atrocity as the murder, torture, or mutilation of civilians, the wounded, and prisoners. Different definitions would obviously produce different totals
Slavery was abolished in the Lithuanian commonwealth in 16th century..Their form of government was your founder of democracy...Slavians were never backwards.
Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth...they formed a nation together in the 16th century...Please Rus was founded by Vikings like Kievan Rus...You are an american...fake scandinavian.
During her reign Catherine extended the borders of the Russian Empire southward and westward to absorb New Russia, Crimea, Right-Bank Ukraine, Belarus, Lithuania, and Courland at the expense, mainly, of two powers the Ottoman Empire and the PolishLithuanian Commonwealth. All told, she added some 200,000 miles² (518,000 km²) to Russian territory.
A 2004 analysis of MtDNA in a Lithuanian population revealed that Lithuanians are close to both Slavic (Indo-European) and Finno-Ugric-speaking populations of Northern and Eastern Europe. Y-chromosome SNP haplogroup analysis showed Lithuanians to be closest to Latvians and Estonians
Estonians (Estonian: eestlased, previously maarahvas) are a Finnic people closely related to the Finns and inhabiting, primarily, the country of Estonia.
The terms Finns and Finnish people (Finnish: suomalaiset, Swedish: finländare) are used in English to mean "a native or inhabitant of Finland". They are also used to refer to the ethnic group historically associated with Finland or Fennoscandia, and they are only used in that sense here
As with most ethnic groups, the definition of Finns may vary. In every definition, the term includes the Finnish-speaking population of Finland. The group can also be seen to include the Swedish-speaking population of Finland
I don't care about USA or your piece of little gun equipment, if you get agressive you come to my doorstep and I blow your head of simple as that. Or come in peace and we'll drink some vodka.
Jameson is a single-distillery Irish whiskey. The brand is today owned by the French beverage conglomerate Pernod Ricard. Unlike other blends where several whiskeys from either other distilleries or the open market are combined together to reduce costs, the Jameson distilling tradition has always insisted upon producing every component of their whiskey "from grain to glass."
Catherine the Great i bet you get a few drinks in her shed have been a hell of a time...Catherine suffered a stroke on 16 November [O.S. 5 November] 1796 and died in her bed at 9:20 the following evening without having regained consciousness,. (She did not, as the oft-repeated myth claims, die as a result of a failed attempt at having sex with a horse
Andrey Marchukov is full of shit, trying to protect Bolsheviks even today! Come on! These crimes were commited, so just have the decency to admit it!
earthanomaly 3 months ago
Andrey marchukov is full of shit, trying to protect Bolsheviks even today! Come on! These crimes were commited, so just have the decency to admit it!
earthanomaly 3 months ago
@VaragianPrince Ukraine is not Russia. There is a big difference between those 2
trypilla 5 months ago
Who's to blame? Fucking communists are to blame! Let's not mince words or over-analyze this. Here are two basic facts:
1) If left alone, PEOPLE WILL FEED THEMSELVES. They will do it by planting crops, hunting animals, raising chickens, pigs, cows, etc.
2) With the exception of a long term drought, mass starvation ONLY occurs when a CENTRALIZED AUTHORITY (ie government, army, gang) PREVENTS others from growing food or forces them to redistribute the food they produce.
Period. End of story.
utube9000 6 months ago
27 people like kissing stalinist ass
siralucard19 7 months ago
For the russians it took almost 70 years to admitt and apologise for the Katyn massacre. In this mass murder over 20.000 thousand Polish MIlitary and Public officials were executed. If after 70 years russians admitted 25.000 victims of the Katyn, 10.000.000 victimes of holodomor genocide will never be admitted. Its just the nature of russians to not take blame and responsibilities for their horrific crime. I feel deep sympathy for Ukrainians but counting on that Russians will admitt is sensless
PolishWingedHussar10 7 months ago
@PolishWingedHussar10 Not Russian, but soviet communists. i.e. NKVD, Cheka, etc.
posharow 3 weeks ago
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Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Nobel Prize winner who spent 8 years in Gulag labor camps and 3 years in exile and who is hardly a "Communist regime sympathizer" wrote about the Holodomor campaign in 2008:
"This provocateurs outcry about "genocide" began to emerge decades later - first secretly, in the musty chauvinistic minds, viciously opposed to "Muscovites" - and now ascended to government circles of today's Ukraine, to surpass even the dashing swirls of Bolshevik propaganda "
DrMundo74 8 months ago
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DrMundo74 9 months ago
How much do you think he was paid for reporting those lies ?
chemerich 9 months ago
@chemerich Russian gov't pays them very well.
preemptivestrike20 7 months ago
what kind of economic policy? taking away all the food from all the farmers and the people who lived in villages isn't quite economical, and ofcaurse they dind't learn in in history class, it was supposed to be hidden. Do you expect to hear any truth from a russian television station about a crime they did themselves? About the holocaust everybody talks, but no-one knows this
philipsthebest 9 months ago
THESE RUSSIAN JEWS ON RT DENY THE FACT THE HOLOMODOR Was a genocide act and a crime!!!!!!!!! You stupid russian jews I hope you all are killed off you evil bastards. I don't just hope I will help get rid of you!
614streets 9 months ago
There never was any hollowdomore, it was disinformation by the gestapo to justifie to the rest of the world the future "liberation" of the region by Germany, a liberation for the future of the German people, as most locals where to be moved beyond the Urals, lol!
Funny that "ukrainian" pseudo-nationalists repeates the lines of a regime that considered them walking animals, as if their beloved jew-owned, banan republic "ukraine" today wasn´t enough.
Fridaey13txhOktober 8 months ago
@Fridaey13txhOktober Holodomor was made right in the year when Hitler camed to power. 10 million died killed by starvation, how could the nazis make this up? Even Stalin himself admited when he was asked by CHuchill. Go read some more you buttkissing commie fanatic
siralucard19 7 months ago
@siralucard19 In one of the best history documentaries ever made ''World War 2 Behind Closed Doors'' in one if the part Churchill was arquing with Stalin over some issues and one of these Churchill asked what had happened to all the peasants who refused forced collectivisation, Stalin just simply and without avoiding any inconviences answered ''We just killed them'' so Stalin himself admitted the fact of mass murder of peasants
PolishWingedHussar10 7 months ago
Jews. bad people.
614streets 9 months ago
Who is to blame? Capitalists of course. And Kulaks (Kurkuls). Don't forget Capitalists. Or maybe the plow broke. It could have been the evil priests. Or maybe all the babas were really Western spies. Perhaps Stalin was just really hungry and ate all the food. Oh well, just keep ignoring the obvious answer: Bolshevik Communists. It has worked so far. Just kidding. It was the Capitalists. And the Babas. And the rain or lack of rain. Or a flat tire. Or Trotsky.
TolKOZAK 9 months ago
What absolute nonsense. Stalin murdered 10 million Ukrainians. How dare you call yourself a historian. Holodomor happened. Can.t believe you lie, distort and the video is still available.
marika19502011 10 months ago
The Jews caused the famine. To the Jews farming is the lowest form of occupation and it says in their Talmud that we the Gentiles (white people) are to farm and they (the Jews) are to reap the rewards of the Gentiles. FUCK THE jEWS!!!
aaronbrent84 10 months ago 2
Wasn't the exile of the kulaks really really stupid? The wealthiest farmers would, logically, be the best farmers. Bolsheviks would say that the kulaks aren't the best and that they just took advantage of the poor farmers, right? I think that philosophy is why 20th century communism failed. In a capitalist society, the wealthiest members of a particular field tend to be the best. Communists would disagree, but I think they're just wrong.
KayBeeEee1983 11 months ago
Marchukov, what an idiot
Xanaseb 11 months ago
RT is beginning to be as bad as American TV.
In case this Russian "journalist" really doesn't know (which to me is simply unbelievable), here is just one name to get you started about this mass atrocity --
Lazar Moiseyevitch Kaganovitch.
michaelbyrnes2012 11 months ago
He admitted that millions of Ukrainians were purposely starved to death, and yet he also claimed that was not a crime. God, I hate Russian scum!!!
Godzhur 1 year ago
@Godzhur Yes brother that is one sick russian jew
614streets 9 months ago
It's incredible that seemingly intelligent, or at least educated, people can continue to defend the indefensible, deny the undeniable, and promote the preposterous. Namely that Russians i.e. the Soviet Bolsheviks are somehow not responsible for the Holodomor specifically, and millions of other victims in general. This is beyond the pale. One must be either delusional, morally bankrupt, or demented to describe the actions of butchers with such deliberate misrepresentations (a fancy word for lies)
TolKOZAK 1 year ago
Who's to Blame? Russian Communists! They should be put on trial for the starvation of over 10,000,000 Ukrainians in the 1933 Famine!
Banderista1 1 year ago
The Soviet Russians directed its genocide attack on these particular strata of the Ukrainian people:
1). The Ukrainian peasantry, which was to be destroyed as a "class enemy";
2) The Ukrainian intelligentsia was earmarked for destruction under the appellation of "Ukrainian bourgeois Nationalists";
3) The Ukrainian Orthodox Autocephalic Church was an obstacle in cementing the barbarous rule of Russian Communism in Ukraine, and had to be ruthlessly destroyed.
Banderista1 1 year ago
The Soviets decided to destroy a growing independent Ukraine in the 1920's under Otomon Simon Petliura, who was assasinated by Bolesheviks in Paris in 1926. The man made famine was ordered by decree to wipe out growing Ukrainian nationalism and patriotism. By order of the Soviet government, a directed genocide attack toward the extermination of a great part of the Ukrainian nation was launched in 1929-1933.
Banderista1 1 year ago
How on earth can 5 or 6 million people be starved to death not intentionally? How could it not be intentionally when the army and the NKVD were sent to quash the peasant upheavals? How could it not be deliberately, when the NKVD was in charge of collecting the grain and watching the wheat fields? The soviet power knew perfectly about the tragedy, and it continued with the same policy. So the famine was provoked intentionally.
willdlp 1 year ago
I keep seeing the figure of 10mln Ukrainians killed by "bloody Russians"
just looked up in Wiki "Demographics of Ukraine"
According to Wiki the population of UkrSSR in 1931 was:
1931[11] 23,263,000
that means nearly every SECOND Ukrainian was "genocided" ? (a great part of the population of the Ukraine despite Bolshevik Ukrainization of the 20s was Russian too)
Do these guys who are campaigning for 'Genocide' do math at all?
Most local top Bolsheviks collecting grain were Ukrainians btw...
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In 2008, the government of Ukraine, the United States, the Senate of Canada, UNESCO and the United Nations joined more than 40 jurisdictions around the world to officially condemn the famine and recognize it as genocide.
macspectrum 1 year ago
Too bad no one cares about the Holodomor even thought it murdered more than the Holocaust in ONE year. Guess the lives of Jews are worth more than Ukrainians.
DISGUSTING
HokiesAndDawgs 1 year ago
Nice moustache.
LesPaul2006 1 year ago
JEWS COMMUNIST ARE RESPONSIBLE....JUDEO BOLSHEVICK STATE ! russian people are not responsible cause ukrainians are brothers. JEWS JEWS JEWS google it ''commie jewish killers''
Incogman(dot)net
antonSS88 1 year ago
To understand what really happend see plp.org slash books slash Stalin slash book dot html
Its the complete book of Ludo Martens "Another view of Stalin" . Anybody with few basic knowledge what communism really means will understand why this is true.
edgar0001 1 year ago
The reason of famine was the western supported war of Kulags and Tzarist against government. They burned down fields, killed the free communist farmers and destroyed their new acricultural machinery. Nevertheless - finally the soviets became the scientifically and economically the most developed country. During the so-called "world" economic crisis around 1929 USSR had growthrates over 20 percent for years! Despite total damage by the NAZI war the US and German capitalists organized.
edgar0001 1 year ago
Thanks for this. I was wondering what the Soviet view of this was.
They sold way to much food and said we were not there to know why they did it.
This ignores many points such as the rest of the world sending food but it was rejected.
OxAO 1 year ago
this is simply incredible.
in europe for denying the holocaust one can spend smonth in prison
Today, this Kremlin invented scum-pseudo media lies in our faces denying communistic atrocities - tool of Kremlin imperial policy
Ukrainians? Not only Russians suffered more than anyone from genocidal policy of Kremlin rules.
Degree of communism - style propaganda in this channel just killing me
cornwalley 1 year ago
@cornwalley
According to Manfred Hildermeier some 10 Million people were killed by the Bolsheviks between 1927-1939
According to Bogdan Musial some 13 Million people were killed by the Bolsheviks between 1929-1939
According to John Lewis Gaddis some 17 to 22 Million people were killed by the bolsheviks between 1929-1939
Worldwide communisms killed between 100-150 Million people.
I to dont understand why for nazi crimes denial you go to prison while for communist crime denial= nothing..
Denorius01 1 year ago
@Denorius01
100% right mate!
socialism - in its both incernations ; national socialism (nazizm) and international one (bolshevism) were the most deadly and criminal experiments in the history of mankind.
simply because leftist "intellectuals" in the West - so called "useful idiots" - commie's crimes cannot be judged and punished
watch "YURI BEZMENOV" ON THE "ideological subverion " of the west mad eby commie propagadna - its scary how its relevant!
cornwalley 1 year ago
@cornwalley
If u say: "there was no Holocaust- the nazis didint kill anyone" u get up to 4 YEARS of prison!
But when u say: "Stalin and Mao and Lenin etc didnt kill anyone "- it is tolerated!
Nazisms killed around 20 Mio people thats horrible
But compared to the 100 -150 Mio dead of communisms its nothing!
Even TODAY Communism mass killing continues North Korea etc still no one seems to care. but when u say something "wrong" about WW2 like Nicolson Baker or Patrik Buchanan ur screwed
Denorius01 1 year ago
@Denorius01
that is why i think all forms of socialisms and collectivism are leading towards genocide.
Adolf and joseph S. were best allies - Luftwaffe bombers over London used to fly on soviet oil!
Soviets and Nazis held numner of joint parades and conferences between Gestapo and NKVD supporting each other in fighting Polish resistance.
Soviets wished Germans "victory" over capitalists from UK and France
cornwalley 1 year ago
@cornwalley It were lies that made you "think" this.
edgar0001 1 year ago
I blame Stalin, Russia and piss poor economic practices (communism).
dadecountyhustler305 1 year ago
The communist Jew killed millions of Ukrainians that nobody knows about lol
NaoSouNando2006Nao 1 year ago
interesting subject, but way too high of a compression ratio lets the quality of vid suffer
josmoify 1 year ago
Lazar Kaganovich.
Ataxicabdriver 1 year ago 3
The ones responsible for this deliberately killed thousands of Ukrainian intellectuals as well. This was truly a deliberate act of genocide born out of racial hatred. You don't here of it because the perpetrators were Jews.
Ataxicabdriver 1 year ago
In early 1920 , Lazare KAGANOVITCH was already nick named " the Ukrainian pest " for he perpetrated large slaughters in that country. He was born in Ukrainia and , as a Jew , seem to be hating his fellow countrymens . In 1930 , he had reach the top of soviet power , and with the help of other Jews he had promoted ( Lev Mekhlis ) he organized the final solution for his former Ukrainian fellows . World jewish Order knows well this responsability , that's why they forbid this story !
BOOOZB 1 year ago 3
very good video! It shows the hidden Horror OF COMMUNIST Soviet union
216edu 1 year ago
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бiографiя ющенко -
Became a communist in his 23 ! (1977)
USSR State Bank - golova (1984-87)
Ukrainian Agro-Industrial Bank - golova (1987-93)
Bank Ukraina - golova (1991-93)
Governor of the National Bank of Ukraine (NBU) (1993-99)
як ви бачите, це те саме лайно
що поґрабувало наш народ
під час ґіперінфляцій.
in this time Ukraine lost 12 millions of people !
777Simsalabim 1 year ago
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бiографiя ющенко -
Became a communist in his 23 ! (1977)
USSR State Bank - golova (1984-87)
Ukrainian Agro-Industrial Bank - golova (1987-93)
Bank Ukraina - golova (1991-93)
Governor of the National Bank of Ukraine (NBU) (1993-99)
як ви бачите, це те саме лайно
що поґрабувало наш народ
під час ґіперінфляцій.
in this time Ukraine lost 12 millions of people !
777Simsalabim 1 year ago
The living relatives of the Mass Murderer Jews have to pay reperations to us for what they did. They owe us so much, don't let them get away with this. When ever you hear a Jew cry about the holocaust tell them about what they did to us.
CodexAlimentarius1 1 year ago 2
watched up to 5 min - this guys the historian, isbullshitting so much
the Holodomor occurred because of the growing nationalism in Ukrain - stalin wanted to stop it
gunforsale 1 year ago
There was around 10million murdered,by the Jewish Bolshevik's in the Ukraine,how many people hear of this holocaust?no one! The Jewish controlled media would not want people to know about their despicable past.The same answer applies to your other question,Jewish controlled media is obviously going to tell the people to support Israel.
The Khazarian Jews infiltrated our European countries centuries ago,but I'm sure you know all this.
Are you sitting in Tel Aviv,getting paid for this?
0775320447 1 year ago 3
The Ukrainian Government needs to hold criminal trials against the Boleshevik Russian Jews who murdered millions of innocent Ukrainians. The Jews do not want to be implicated and have skirted this devastining tragedy (their own Walter Duranty of New York Times never reported a famine to the United States). They DO CONTROL ALL OF THE MEDIA AND ARE NOW EMBARRASED THAT THEY ARE TO BLAME. UKRAINE WILL NOT REMAIN INDEPENDENT FOR TOO LONG BECAUSE OF THIS.
VityaHolod 1 year ago 2
I watched a programme where Foxman of the ADL was having a meeting with the Ukrainian prime minister,he was essentially threatening their government to keep quiet.These Dews get away with mass murder and claim were being anti-Semites if we speak.
The thing is that they may seem very powerful,but they live in a house of cards!
0775320447 1 year ago 3
THIS IS TRUE HISTORY! READ THE BOOK" Execution by Hunger~ The Hidden Holocaust" by Miron Dolot, where over 10 million Ukrainians were intentionally starved to death under the hands of STALIN, and that Ukrainians lived in the breadbasket of Europe was ironic. This was left out of history for a reason! The Russian Communist Bolesheviks are responsible for their deaths! Stop denying this happened RUSSIA, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE! This WAS A DELIBERATE CRIME! MURDERERS!
Slavachka1 1 year ago 22
@Slavachka1 Russia !! As if Russian wher not as well and first victims of politrouks and the dread system ? It's a bit easy to kill the first dog you meet . Until mankind clears exactly the devices which led to this 74 years of human crushing , please , no one can shorten the story . The part plaid by Jews of communist nomenklatura has to be checked too , because the man who decide the slaughter was Lazare Kaganovitch : ukrainian born jew whose nick name was the "calamity of Ukrainia" .
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Vsevolod Balitsky, nationality – Ukrainian, birth place – Dnepropetrovsk oblast (Ukraine). In 1932 –OGPU (KGB) special commissioner. His task was “unconditional fulfillment of state grain procurements” in Ukraine.
In 1933 – Chairman of Ukrainian GPU (KGB).
Stanislav Kosior, nationality – Jew, birth place – Sedlets oblast (Poland), First Secretary of Central Committee of Communist Party (Bolsheviks) of Ukraine (1928 – 1938), actual ruler of Ukraine.
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Vlas Chubar, nationality –Ukrainian, birth place – Zaporozh`e oblast (Ukraine). Chairman of Sovnarkom (Government) of Ukraine (1923-1934). Signed ruefully famous Resolution “About struggle against sabotage in state grain procurement”.
Panas Lybchenko, nationality – Ukrainian, birth place – Kiev oblast (Ukraine).
Mykola Skrypnik, nationality – Ukrainian, birth place – Donetsk oblast (Ukraine). Chairman of Gosplan (State Plannning Committee)of Ukraine (1932 – 1933).
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"Ukrainization has been and will be enforced with most
decisive measures ... Whoever does not understand or does not want to understand cannot be considered by the Government anything other than a counterrevolutionary and conscious or unconscious enemy of the Soviet Power"
Mykola Skrypnyk (1872–1933) - Proponent of the Ukrainian Republic's independence, leader of the cultural Ukrainization in Soviet Ukraine. Creator of Ukrainian alphabet. Member of CHEKA Police (see Wikipedia) 1917-18
watcherwatcher2 1 year ago
@Slavachka1 And "Harvest of Sorrow: soviet collectivisation and terror famine" by Robert Conquest!!
Xanaseb 11 months ago
Russians: Ukrainians do not belong to you, they never have been Russians and never will be! This completely infuriates me, and I'm bloody 1/2 Polish not Ukrainian!!! I will stand up for my Ukrainian brethren against the common foe. I'm proud of being anti-Russian (not the people, just the government) because I have all the right to be. Stop being so bloody arrogant, and remember that you ruled the 2nd most evil, corrupt and destructive government in history, the Soviet Union. One word: Stalin
Xanaseb 11 months ago
@Xanaseb Kievian Rus. Ukrainians are Russians.
VaragianPrince 11 months ago
@VaragianPrince I hate to break this to you, but firstly the Kievan Rus elite were NOT Russian, but Scandinavians. Over a long time they gradually assimilated into the Russian mass culture.
Secondly, Ukrainians have a very strong claim to an entirely distinct "Ruthenian" branch of Slavs that NEVER linked to the "Great Russian" Slavs. Ukrainians are technically Red Ruthenians, Byellorussians are White Ruthenians.
Thirdly, Ukrainians have a completely different Unrussian culture and language.
Xanaseb 10 months ago
@Xanaseb "Long" time = 2 generations at that time = 40 years. From Rurik to Oleg in 40 years. A fucking long time. And so you admit that the Varagians were assimilated into a Russian culture over todays modern Ukraine? It is all the proof i need. Bye bye.
VaragianPrince 10 months ago
Oh yeah, I'll give you three blatant reasons why there's little photographic evidence.: 1: The USSR is notorious for censorship and destroying documents 2: Ukrainians could not get there hands on camera equipment! They were bloody starving and impoverished for God sake! 3: Any Russian who took any evidence would have been shot for treason against the state.
Finally, does anyone think that Putin and his pals may have put false accusations of the photos being from 1921 famines?
Xanaseb 11 months ago
@Slavachka1 Im reading that book this moment and it tells of all the horrors of the USSR under Stalin.
mezquital1982 8 months ago
In other words, completely outrageous stupidity. :)
Fridaey13txhOktober 8 months ago
@0775320447 read "EXECUTION BY HUNGER~THE HIDDEN HOLOCAUST" written over 25 years ago, where 10 million Ukrainians located in the breadbasket of Europe, were intentionally starved to death under the hands of RUSSIAN COMMUNIST BOLESHEVIK JEWS! THE RUSSIAN JEWS NEED TO TAKE RESPONSIBLITY FOR THEIR CRIMES AGAINST UKRAINIANS AND STAND TRIAL IN A COURT OF LAW! THERE IS PLENTY OF WITNESSES AND EVIDENCE!!
Slavachka1 1 year ago 3
@Slavachka1 What about Jews who were not in the Ukraine or Russia at the time (the vast majority). Are all those Jews responsible in your mind?
P1B1U1H1 1 year ago
When I went to college in the early '70's I learned that communism created the worker's paradise and everyone was happy. Are these all lies? Or did my highly educated, erudite professors not have a clue what they were talking about? When I mentioned Stalin's and Mao's purges I was mocked and almost laughed out of class.
TheCannonofMohammed 2 years ago
I think each and every one who has experienced communism could answer to your question - YES THEY ARE ALL LIES
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Why is it that this Jew/Communist geocide committed on the Indo-Europeans of Ukraine not deemed important enough to mention in the history books? Is the 11million that were butchered by the Jews not worthy of a mention in History?No we are only allowed to hear of the few hundred thousand Jews that died in camps in WW2 which maraculously becomes 6 million.Pathetic.Awaken from Jewish mind control!
EddieTheDaddyHitler 2 years ago
Юридическая комиссия Парламентской Ассамблеи Совета Европы одобрила внесенные представителем Великобритании поправки к докладу и проекту резолюции о голоде в СССР, предложив признать его Голодомором и геноцидом украинского народа.
WildFey 2 years ago
not stalin's jews, stalin is to blame
lorofcb2 2 years ago
Fucking commies are to blame.
maxpower252 2 years ago
The Ukraine was the wheat growing breadbasket of Europe.but in 1932 most Ukrainian christian rebelled against the Jewish Bolsheviks for independence.The communist bolsheviks headed by Stalin sent in the red army to confiscate all the food,a nightmare ensued.The forced famine killed 10million Ukrainians.Holodomor as it is know was a Zionist controlled mass murder which many think as the real Holocaust.
0775320447 2 years ago
What? The famine in the Ukraine was a Zionist plot? Then why did Israel ally with the west? And why are so many Christians pro-Israel? Hmmmm. Very interesting!
TheCannonofMohammed 1 year ago
stalin
SlavicZoorak 2 years ago 4
Oh of course, its a good idea to ask a Russian Historian, only Russians know the truth good idea
boiscool7 2 years ago
"The truth is a bougeoisie illusion"
Statement of a lifetime
srotagadirolf 2 years ago
Iosif Djuga(Juda)shvili Stalin is to blame.
liviu6 2 years ago
who is to blame: russians!
paske2001 2 years ago
ok, so the historian states that the soviet authorities made a hard and conscious decision to "redistribute" food and cause starvation, yet they didnt consciously didnt cause a genocide. way to go. wow. this is kick ass top notch logics.
anyway, communists should get over the defensive attitude. this allegation makes sense, even from a commie point view. yet he tends to say that death can be beneficial. do all of the defendants of communism agree?
bigbagofpoo 2 years ago
What would be the purpose of Stalin and Bolsheviks to kill Ukranians just 1o years after Great War and 6 years before another Great War?
To what damn purpose???
IvanKolosnik 2 years ago
stalin was mentally ill
Drobakha 2 years ago
Oh yes, and shot 40 killion jews personally, also he wore red briefs and you were an eyewitness.
IvanKolosnik 2 years ago
The Holodomor killed 6 million White Christian Ukranians. Who is to blame? Ultimately the blame can be traced to the jews, no question about it. This is precisely why they have tried so hard to hide the existence of the Holodomor all together (as opposed to the jews constantly promoting the Holocaust against them from any and every angle possible). Just typical jew business.
StrictlyGentile 2 years ago
If Kremlin wante to kill Ukranians why then they are still alive?
If Stalin wanted to exterminate all of them he had time and resources to do that.
IvanKolosnik 2 years ago
Хохлокост - трагическая тема
IvanKolosnik 2 years ago
Ivan you are a fuckface.
Have a nice day. :-)
observationspring 2 years ago
I should mention that the comment to Ivan, the dimwit, was from my grandfather, who has starved to death in the holodomor. I am just a messenger.
observationspring 2 years ago
How is possible that all the communist are defending Stalin? Could it be that they are dishonest and unable to admit that there was anything wrong with their system? That's a first proof of dishonesty. People don't want to live in a system where you are arrested for critisizing the leader or the party. Then you are send to camps..I don't like WTO but this is shit too..
dualis777 2 years ago
How can he say its no Genocide?
If you argue like this historican, you could also say that the Holocaust wasnt a genocide... it was a political "choice". They had to kill these people to get the money to buy oil and steel...
Apparently its always a matter of perspective.
Domude 2 years ago
Holocaust apx 6 mln. WW2 - 60 mln.
golodomor - Ukr. Famine - all over SU.
People use special names for their specific political reasons.
isitmanormachine 2 years ago
There was ineed no genocide.
There was famine - in Russia before collectivization this was quite normal and frequent thing - famine 0f 1918, 1984 etc.
Holocaust is a scam to the most part, Zionist propaganda - although Nazis killed many Jews (mostly Soviet Jews)
IvanKolosnik 2 years ago
a frequent thing for 10 million people to die in one country?????? thats bullshit
Drobakha 2 years ago 2
There were not KILLIONS who died of famine.
Irt's all propaganda.
It was a famine - mind you - which happened quite often in Russia -in 1921 in Volga region, for example.
IvanKolosnik 2 years ago
IvanKolasnik, you actually think this was/is
just propoganda? That is absurd. I am a Russian from Kuban. My parents had no reason to lie to me about this. The famine occured in the Kuban as in Ukraine. Many people died because of the evel doings by the communists. While starving and killing their people the food was shipped to India as a 'gift from Russian people' . Only mentally ill people and goverments are capable to do this.
posharow 2 years ago
What you guys blame Bolsheviks for the natural disaster it is propaganda.
When New Orleans was destroyed by flood no reasonable man blamed that moron G.W.Bush or bloody capitalist system - fuck it was just a misfortune
IvanKolosnik 2 years ago
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Why would Stalin and VKP(b) want to kill tribillions of Ukranians and Kubanoids by starving them, to death? What would be their political reasoning? To have more enemies or collect less in taxes?
IvanKolosnik 2 years ago
Hmm, you are dimwitted indeed, aren't you? At first I thought you were only pretending. Do accept my apologies.
observationspring 2 years ago
When millions died in India in 1870s no on e blamed anyone for "genocide" - oh, that was act f God..sad but not specially organized by anyone
IvanKolosnik 2 years ago
10 killion Russians died in one village only.
The was a famine, yes, and in 1947 as well - but this happened frequently in Russia just like in Bangladesh - because of harsh climate and lack of mechanization
IvanKolosnik 2 years ago
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10 million people is bullshit. There were 100,000,000 millions who died only in one Ukranian viullage. no surprise Ukranians fought bravely for the Soviet Union just 8 years later against Hitler
IvanKolosnik 2 years ago
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Those Ukranians who fought against "tyranny of Stalin" in the glorious Nazi ranks were fucking Polish citizens with their unofficial capital in Lemberg - they did not starve at all sure thing.
IvanKolosnik 2 years ago
There was no Holocaust per se - it;s mostly ZIonist propaganda.
Though Nazis killed many Jews (especially Soviet Jews).
Holodomor (Hohlokost) is another scum.
IvanKolosnik 2 years ago
IvanKolosnik, there is no use discussing this with you. Obviously you did not live in that time and did not suffer the wrath of Stalin and communism. The famine was not natural but man made by Stalin and the rest of he communists. Don't bother replying, I'm done saying what has to be said.
posharow 2 years ago 22
Amazing reasoning. You lived under Stalin's opression you died in that famine like other zubillions did.
Cool. Ahue - what Russians say.
IvanKolosnik 2 years ago
@posharow rich rule the pore eat leftovers ..sad but true..
bigbigoo7 4 months ago
usa did the same but they just did it as a secret in taking money out to consolidate the rich
bigbigoo7 4 months ago
Gotta love the "american imperialism" accusers. If we're the ruthless dictators the world makes us out to be why is the USA the number one provider of food and foreign aid in the world to all countries, Has the HIGHEST immigration in the entire world and has the most recognized and exported "evil capitalist corporations" in the world? Jealousy is a horrible thing, but i welcome the criticism, when you're the most generous and powerful nation, people are gonna throw stones your way.
JonOccamBluecollar 2 years ago
Billysands, do not talk as though the Russians chose the Bolsheviks. Hardly anyone in Russia even knew who they were when they mounted their German sponsored coup against the gov't. The German High Command sent Lenin in as a Quisling style stooge, so as to cause chaos behind enemy lines. That aid from the German's is the only reason the Bolsheviks had an advantage. All communists are quislings, from the beginning.
VictorLepanto 2 years ago
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
billyysands 2 years ago
billyysands 2 years ago
Um yyeah, they needed to fulfill contracts so they made a tough choice to do so, knowing that millions of people will die. However, it wasnt a crime, because they didn't intend to starve millions of people. What kind of fucked up logic is that? Hey, wipe off the milk off your lips, historian.
Ukrainatrain 2 years ago
you murder 10 million people and thats a polcy choice not a crime? is this indicative of what sort of pigs the rulers of russia are?
billyysands 2 years ago
Who killed 10 million people, give me the names? I have those names, from commissars of labour camps to the nkvd chiefs, 90% of them are all jewish.
JackDanielsFinest 2 years ago
names? you pathetic shit..you cant convicen someone like you off anything you are willfully blind to obvious evidence
scholars objective scholars have prooven fairly that stalin starved about 7 million people in the ukraine and hitler killed 6 million jews these figures are widely acepted by rational minds
extremist idiots on the left and right
refuse to accept reality because it conflicts withtheir pathetic delusions
there nothing i can say or do to convince nazis or commies of their crimes
billyysands 2 years ago
you russians really arent very bright i'm glad..your really not much of a threat to the USA your weapons are shit your army is shit yyou society is xenophobic and ruled by intimidation and fear i feel bad for you..i've met many
russian immmigrants here..almost all are very nice smart people
the smart russians escape to america
вы жалкий
billyysands 2 years ago
its an old anti semite nazi trick to accuse jews of being at the same time being responsible for communism and internationa capital which is contradictory
and non sensiscal yet feeble minds fall for it..what actualy is the case(again i'm not jewish) is that jews tended to be intellectuals basically smarter and better educated than the general population
of germany and russia
so naturally they would be over rpesented in intelelctual
and banking circles
as the average peasent was too stupid
billyysands 2 years ago
to understand or participate in such cerebral endevors
billyysands 2 years ago
It is easy to call people anti semite...
Millions of Slavians died in labour/Death camps. Posessions were taken away. Priests were shot and churches were burned to the ground. People were simply executed without trial on the streets.
I call this genocide.
JackDanielsFinest 2 years ago
The jews...
JackDanielsFinest 2 years ago
Stalin was born on December 18, 1878 in Gori, Georgia to a family of limited financial means in a town plagued by gang warfare and street brawls. At seven, he conducted smallpox, which permanently scarred his face. At twelve, two horse-drawn carriage accidents left his left arm permanently damaged. At ten, he began attending a church At sixteen, he received a scholarship to a Georgian Orthodox seminary, where he wrote poetry and rebelled against being forced to speak Russian.
billyysands 2 years ago
I knew that already....
JackDanielsFinest 2 years ago
Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche where hitler got most of his ideas and perverted them
was actually NOT an anti semite he admired jewish intellectuals and considered the averge german to be
an oaf
billyysands 2 years ago
It is a matter of honor with me to be absolutely clean and unequivocal in relation to anti-Semitism, namely, opposed to it, as I am in my writings. I have recently been persecuted with letters and Anti-Semitic Correspondence Sheets. My disgust with this party (which would like the benefit of my name only too well!) is as pronounced as possible,
billyysands 2 years ago
There is no anti-semitism, that is what needs to be understood. There is the genocide that should be recognized by the whole world.
And that is the genocide of the slavian people.
If jewish genocide of 6 million is aknowledged why wouldn't the genocide of 20 millin slavians become a part of history.
JackDanielsFinest 2 years ago
anti semetic the virilent anti semitism that existed amongsts slavs is shamefull and the "genocide" commited was commited by slavs against slavs look at yugoslavia..like many ethnic groups that hate and envy people that do better than themselves(which is what jew hatred is mosty envy of crude slavs against a more intellectual sophisticated culture)it is an old story minorities in USA resent
the successfull and BLAME them for the misfortunes they bring on themseles
you scapegoat the jews
billyysands 2 years ago
instead of accepting responsibility and trying to correct your own problems
all cultures do this individuals do this
but some are more guilty than others
the jews have done better than you so you envy them..solve your own problems and stop blaming the jews..its so easy to destroy and hard to build..isnt slavic culture noitroius for always hating each toehr too.. look what happened in bosnia
like animals you kill each other
at least the jews stick together
billyysands 2 years ago
when The Observer contacted Sir Martin Gilbert, the eminent historian and Churchill biographer, the implication of anti-Semitism began to unravel. Gilbert, who also has a book out this summer, said the article was not written by Churchill at all, but rather his ghost writer, Adam Marshall Diston. He added that Churchill`s instructions for the article were different in both tone and content from what Diston eventually wrote,
billyysands 2 years ago
He added that Churchill`s instructions for the article were different in both tone and content from what Diston eventually wrote, and pointed out that Diston was a supporter of Oswald Mosley, the notorious fascist and anti-Semite. Churchill had stopped its publication in a newspaper.
billyysands 2 years ago
Still you can't deny what was written. Ofcourse the artical was stopped to evade political tensions.
Is it wrong to write the truth about the revolution? Of its leaders and their national origin? It is easy to call someone an anti-semite.
Our Tsar was killed personally by a jew, Sverdlov. Death labour camps were led by jewish commissars.
It is the same like Jews hated the Germans who made the concentration camps.
You can't denie what was happend.
JackDanielsFinest 2 years ago
yeah we kicked there asses and they cry losers like you! you cry because you are the bottom if we were stupid we would care i just laugh at your backwards ass
its easier to cry than make your life better.
the whole crap about indians is exaggerated most died of diesease
in reality those savages killed more whites than we killed them
most of the killing was merely self defense
besides it was done long ago
my ancestors came later poor starving
after the dirty work
billyysands 2 years ago
You are a racist yankee like your ancestors. Everyone knows there were indian concentration camps.
JackDanielsFinest 2 years ago
rofl god you are stupid! i dont care
they used to scalp people.. they were cruel and primitive the ydidnt even have the wheel or writing..they were weak and died of disease we were strong
look too bad about the indians but i dont care we wanted theyre land we took it
its over most of them are dead
i care about my own tribe
the jews arent bad people they are well educated i've never been mugged by a jew
as for the indians i never did anythng to an indian
they lost they need to get over
billyysands 2 years ago
that and move on
billyysands 2 years ago
The 1866 Emancipation Manifesto proclaimed the emancipation of the serfs on private estates and of the domestic (household) serfs. By this edict more than twenty-three millions received their liberty.[1] Serfs were granted the full rights of free citizens, gaining the rights to marry without having to gain consent, to own property and to own a business. The Manifesto prescribed that peasants would be able to buy the land from the landlords.
billyysands 2 years ago
you hate us because you envy winners
like you envy jews because they were successful while you live in shit
billyysands 2 years ago
I'm living great thanks, you can't even affort to eat in a moscow restaurant. ))
We wipe our buts with us dollars here...
JackDanielsFinest 2 years ago
it is evil to deliberalty distort the truth
and i know more history than you
billyysands 2 years ago
jews the way the soviet union turned on israel which was also founded by secular
socialist jews not religious jews
history is complex and you are an oaf
i meet so many nice russian immigrants
such noce people of all ethnicities
i pity anyone still stuck in that hellhole
are all russians pigs like you? I CANT IMAGINE a whole society of such piggish oafs
you percecuted jews in an awful way for so long what do you expect?
hateful violent people create your own mess my advice? really
billyysands 2 years ago
stop blaming the jews or the turks or whoever for your problems and instead try to improve yourself go to school learn a trade..math finance..toaster repair
learn to respect other epoples culture instead of resenting and hating
i just drags your whole society down
AMERICA embraces all hard working immigrants jews and russian
all we ask is people try to get along
and its why we did so well
and you got stalin
people get the governements they deserve
and consequntly we must accept
ours
billyysands 2 years ago
Jews are great people, there is no hating at all. Jacob Schiff financed the bolshevik with millions of dollars. He even stated that the Russians should be defeated no matter what it will cost.
The genocide should be recognized.
JackDanielsFinest 2 years ago
USA is cursed, you live on the cursed land so called of freedom. You wiped out the natives of your countries putted them in concentration and labour camps. You genocided them. Why should people get allong if muslim children are dying every day, you occupy and invade territories illegal.
The government is satanic and the land is cursed. In Europe everyone hates you.
JackDanielsFinest 2 years ago
save your bigotry and resentment fir some feebleminded fool.i know most of the "quotes" you people make are completeley fabricated the rest are teken out of context..get over it..as hegal said the history of the world is a slaughterblock every one can cry like a little girl if thats is all they want to do
the irish had the potato famine negros had slavery almost every people can cry of victimization and morons like you blame it all on the jews with your made up"facts"
your hate retards you
billyysands 2 years ago
No one is blaming the jewish nation. The facts aren't in history books, genocide should be recognized like the Turks should recognize the Armenian one.
Facts can't be made up boy..
History is to be learned from.
JackDanielsFinest 2 years ago
lets talk about why russia has ALWAYS BEEN a backwards cruel place.your tsars and your religion your orthodox false version of christianity.nations that
were kind to jews and allowed freedom of religion and freedom to the common people like america or western europe did better your backwards tsar and orthodix church were absolutist
and repressive they created communism
not the jews.. like the british created the ira by mistreating the irish the russian
aristocracy created communism
billyysands 2 years ago
by deleiberately keeping the average russian backwards and in fuedal slavery long after the west had abolished fuedalism and embraced enlightenement values
we have resolved many of our problems all societies have ghosts slavery
native americans
but that is the past we redressed those problema long ago you still liive with your ghosts
billyysands 2 years ago
Well that is what I call brainwashed ignorant typical american propaganda. You sure know nothing.
Russian Empire did very well the few centuries it was expanding, it had latest military technology, it fed whole Europe and even America with its grain and it had golden coin currency which was accepted in the whole wide world. Industry was growing and eventually became one of the world leading industries.
JackDanielsFinest 2 years ago
from first contact (1511) to the closing of the frontier (1890), and determined that 9,156 people died from atrocities perpetrated by Native Americans, and 7,193 people died from retaliations perpetrated by whites. Osborn defines an atrocity as the murder, torture, or mutilation of civilians, the wounded, and prisoners. Different definitions would obviously produce different totals
billyysands 2 years ago
you have always been behind the west..
katherine the great tried to advance you by apeing the french but you refused to listen to her..
billyysands 2 years ago
Slavery was abolished in the Lithuanian commonwealth in 16th century..Their form of government was your founder of democracy...Slavians were never backwards.
JackDanielsFinest 2 years ago
thats lithuania lithuanians are scandanavian like me
billyysands 2 years ago
Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth...they formed a nation together in the 16th century...Please Rus was founded by Vikings like Kievan Rus...You are an american...fake scandinavian.
JackDanielsFinest 2 years ago
During her reign Catherine extended the borders of the Russian Empire southward and westward to absorb New Russia, Crimea, Right-Bank Ukraine, Belarus, Lithuania, and Courland at the expense, mainly, of two powers the Ottoman Empire and the PolishLithuanian Commonwealth. All told, she added some 200,000 miles² (518,000 km²) to Russian territory.
your best ruler was a german slut! lol
and god bless the little whore she was smart!
billyysands 2 years ago
A 2004 analysis of MtDNA in a Lithuanian population revealed that Lithuanians are close to both Slavic (Indo-European) and Finno-Ugric-speaking populations of Northern and Eastern Europe. Y-chromosome SNP haplogroup analysis showed Lithuanians to be closest to Latvians and Estonians
billyysands 2 years ago
Estonians (Estonian: eestlased, previously maarahvas) are a Finnic people closely related to the Finns and inhabiting, primarily, the country of Estonia.
billyysands 2 years ago
Actually Finno-Ugrian.
JackDanielsFinest 2 years ago
The terms Finns and Finnish people (Finnish: suomalaiset, Swedish: finländare) are used in English to mean "a native or inhabitant of Finland". They are also used to refer to the ethnic group historically associated with Finland or Fennoscandia, and they are only used in that sense here
billyysands 2 years ago
As with most ethnic groups, the definition of Finns may vary. In every definition, the term includes the Finnish-speaking population of Finland. The group can also be seen to include the Swedish-speaking population of Finland
billyysands 2 years ago
i am what i am..and i could kick you ass
you dont scare me..i lived next to a housing project in californai for 10 years
i listened to automatic gun fire at night and chased drug dealers off with
a mossberg you cant scare me
billyysands 2 years ago
I don't care about USA or your piece of little gun equipment, if you get agressive you come to my doorstep and I blow your head of simple as that. Or come in peace and we'll drink some vodka.
JackDanielsFinest 2 years ago
Jameson is a single-distillery Irish whiskey. The brand is today owned by the French beverage conglomerate Pernod Ricard. Unlike other blends where several whiskeys from either other distilleries or the open market are combined together to reduce costs, the Jameson distilling tradition has always insisted upon producing every component of their whiskey "from grain to glass."
billyysands 2 years ago
you know i'd like to have had a drunk with
Catherine the Great i bet you get a few drinks in her shed have been a hell of a time...Catherine suffered a stroke on 16 November [O.S. 5 November] 1796 and died in her bed at 9:20 the following evening without having regained consciousness,. (She did not, as the oft-repeated myth claims, die as a result of a failed attempt at having sex with a horse
horny b*tch!
billyysands 2 years ago
lowlife...
JackDanielsFinest 2 years ago