Let's not fight about our styles here. Instead of self closing resistance, let us learn from each other's styles and not focus on 'this method' or 'that method' or finding out who is superior, but rather what can we do to better ourselves. After all, gentlemen, isn't that what the martial arts are all about?
Also, great video. It was nice seeing long sword techniques in action.
To be honest, Japanese Samurai are amateur compare to the rest of the world warriors. Samurai fought among themselves, and that's how all of their martial arts revolve around...fighting among themselves. Europeans fought across countries and world, their weaponry evolve to match/surpass combat effectiveness of their many opponents. Therefore, Westerns are no doubt most superior in armament. If you wanna talk about Eastern superiority...talk about Mongolian, they ruled continents! Not Japanese..
I'd like to add that I personally never knock others martial arts.If someone gets what they are seeking from it that's all that matters in a more civilised (allegedly!) period of history.
We should never forget however that our ancestors in Northern Europe were pattern welding swords and weapons of extraordinary quality and complexity.
We have played second place in our own territory for far too long and we need to reach out and show where we came from and how good we were.
@krazeedocta My hands on experience with both arts is limited, so I'll be the first to admit I might be wrong, but it seems to me that Kenjutsu is more limited in the angles of attack they use than western swordsmen. The Katana's weight is focused evenly all along the blade (and hilt), whereas the Longsword gets lighter towards the point. This results in a top-heavy Katana sword, whose trajectory cannot be altered mid-swing while retaining any cutting power. The longsword seems more agile to me.
i have a question about pell work, what i have is not much of a pell, just a 6 foot stick about 2 inches thick. sunk about a foot into the ground, my sword is a hanwei practical norman sword, heres the thing, ive been hitting the 'pell' however may its the sword but i seem to often get alot of vibration in the sword, and after only a few days after getting the sword, the guard already shifts very slightly up and down on one side. im not 100% sure how solid the guard was but it wasnt like that.
@KnightsHawk, a good point, but he is not wearing armor, which is much heavier and more restraining than that of a samurai soldier. But I have to agree with thyressarexus that the two swords were never meant to meet in battle, and therefore not easily compared. They are each good at doing what they were designed to do.
@TheSchoolWorld Not really, the most expensive yoroi armor was as heavy as European plate harness, while arguably of worse construction. The techniques of using both swords are remarkably similar and they, in fact, were meant for similar duties. Both served as a sidearm on the battlefield, as a dueling weapon and as the basis for all other combat techniques, as all European masters taught longsword combat.
@Ranziel1 that depends on the period. japanese yoroi of the time of the ren period, were fairly advanced, but the most advanced i think were partly not sure to what extent, influnced by the portuguese, but were fairly comparible to european plate armour, but the earlier O-yoroi of the time of the warring states era and mongol invasions, was armour intended largely for mounted archers.
the sword in the video seems to be an Albion Liechtenauer, for anyone who's interested. It sticks in the pell because the edge is still thin enough to split wood along the grain and because Aaron doesn't seem to be holding back much. (Not that hard to do, really.)
Great Video. Just getting into this myself, and this is something I aspire to be able to do. It's awesome exercise for the upper body and cardio. What sword is Aaron using?
I think hes using a sharp blade. From what i can see its abions talhoffer sword, and that dosn't come blunt. Also at 0:36 you see it stick in the wood
I don't think the two can be compared. Of course their main purpose is the same: killing. However their background is completely different. Neither would do well on the battlefield of the other one.
Similar, but not comparable. Length, weight, the quality of the materials that make the weapon; all these factors and more change the way a sword is used. In Medieval warfare Katanas would be too fragile to block attacks from medieval weapons or to do any damage to metal armor (Japan didn't have high enough quality iron available, FYI).
The Katana would be best compared to a rapier in purpose: a weapon of status for the elite that evolved from other, longer battlefield weapons.
@KnightsHawk, a good point, but he is not wearing armor, which is much heavier and more restraining than that of a samurai soldier. But I have to agree with thyressarexus that the two swords were never meant to meet in battle, and therefore not easily compared. They are each good at doing what they were designed to do.
@KnightsHawk I agree with you but the media has much to do with this.In my own little town we have six far eastern martial arts schools of various disciplines while the whole of my county only has two European martial arts schools.
It's my belief that our ancestors were every bit a good as hand to hand and weapon to weapon as anyone.In most cases they would have had a size advantage to eastern warriors and in a fight size does matter.
Let's not fight about our styles here. Instead of self closing resistance, let us learn from each other's styles and not focus on 'this method' or 'that method' or finding out who is superior, but rather what can we do to better ourselves. After all, gentlemen, isn't that what the martial arts are all about?
Also, great video. It was nice seeing long sword techniques in action.
hayleysfinest 1 month ago
To be honest, Japanese Samurai are amateur compare to the rest of the world warriors. Samurai fought among themselves, and that's how all of their martial arts revolve around...fighting among themselves. Europeans fought across countries and world, their weaponry evolve to match/surpass combat effectiveness of their many opponents. Therefore, Westerns are no doubt most superior in armament. If you wanna talk about Eastern superiority...talk about Mongolian, they ruled continents! Not Japanese..
akira357 3 months ago
I'd like to add that I personally never knock others martial arts.If someone gets what they are seeking from it that's all that matters in a more civilised (allegedly!) period of history.
We should never forget however that our ancestors in Northern Europe were pattern welding swords and weapons of extraordinary quality and complexity.
We have played second place in our own territory for far too long and we need to reach out and show where we came from and how good we were.
ENGLISHDOGSOLDIER 5 months ago
Awesome training!
Schattenninpo 6 months ago
@krazeedocta My hands on experience with both arts is limited, so I'll be the first to admit I might be wrong, but it seems to me that Kenjutsu is more limited in the angles of attack they use than western swordsmen. The Katana's weight is focused evenly all along the blade (and hilt), whereas the Longsword gets lighter towards the point. This results in a top-heavy Katana sword, whose trajectory cannot be altered mid-swing while retaining any cutting power. The longsword seems more agile to me.
amida41 6 months ago
i have a question about pell work, what i have is not much of a pell, just a 6 foot stick about 2 inches thick. sunk about a foot into the ground, my sword is a hanwei practical norman sword, heres the thing, ive been hitting the 'pell' however may its the sword but i seem to often get alot of vibration in the sword, and after only a few days after getting the sword, the guard already shifts very slightly up and down on one side. im not 100% sure how solid the guard was but it wasnt like that.
elgostine 10 months ago
I am all for people thinking katanas are the mystical blades of sure killing, cause with the bullets run out they are going to be sad.
jromandell 1 year ago 2
@KnightsHawk, a good point, but he is not wearing armor, which is much heavier and more restraining than that of a samurai soldier. But I have to agree with thyressarexus that the two swords were never meant to meet in battle, and therefore not easily compared. They are each good at doing what they were designed to do.
TheSchoolWorld 1 year ago
@TheSchoolWorld Not really, the most expensive yoroi armor was as heavy as European plate harness, while arguably of worse construction. The techniques of using both swords are remarkably similar and they, in fact, were meant for similar duties. Both served as a sidearm on the battlefield, as a dueling weapon and as the basis for all other combat techniques, as all European masters taught longsword combat.
Ranziel1 1 year ago
@Ranziel1 that depends on the period. japanese yoroi of the time of the ren period, were fairly advanced, but the most advanced i think were partly not sure to what extent, influnced by the portuguese, but were fairly comparible to european plate armour, but the earlier O-yoroi of the time of the warring states era and mongol invasions, was armour intended largely for mounted archers.
elgostine 10 months ago
the sword in the video seems to be an Albion Liechtenauer, for anyone who's interested. It sticks in the pell because the edge is still thin enough to split wood along the grain and because Aaron doesn't seem to be holding back much. (Not that hard to do, really.)
HappyVideoGuy 1 year ago
Great Video. Just getting into this myself, and this is something I aspire to be able to do. It's awesome exercise for the upper body and cardio. What sword is Aaron using?
iraqvet777 2 years ago
very fast great vid.
twg6669 2 years ago
I have a question doesnt that training dull or mess up the blade? If so why do you do it?
wolfmaster555 2 years ago
He is most likely using a steel blunt.
Jebbis 2 years ago
I think hes using a sharp blade. From what i can see its abions talhoffer sword, and that dosn't come blunt. Also at 0:36 you see it stick in the wood
VikingWannaBe51887 2 years ago
Why own a sword if your not going to use it? What good is it really, if all it does is hang on a wall.
FireFighter214 2 years ago
@FireFighter214 True but there are places where this is actualy a sport, and i believe there are actualy "schools" for this.
blakan3 1 year ago
And the people who over glorify the katana, say that our long swords are slow!. Good vid!.
KnightsHawk 2 years ago 9
I don't think the two can be compared. Of course their main purpose is the same: killing. However their background is completely different. Neither would do well on the battlefield of the other one.
Thyressarexus 2 years ago
And why not exactly? Swords are swords, they behave in very similar ways.
Ranziel1 2 years ago
Similar, but not comparable. Length, weight, the quality of the materials that make the weapon; all these factors and more change the way a sword is used. In Medieval warfare Katanas would be too fragile to block attacks from medieval weapons or to do any damage to metal armor (Japan didn't have high enough quality iron available, FYI).
The Katana would be best compared to a rapier in purpose: a weapon of status for the elite that evolved from other, longer battlefield weapons.
Freemont100 2 years ago
@KnightsHawk, a good point, but he is not wearing armor, which is much heavier and more restraining than that of a samurai soldier. But I have to agree with thyressarexus that the two swords were never meant to meet in battle, and therefore not easily compared. They are each good at doing what they were designed to do.
TheSchoolWorld 1 year ago
@KnightsHawk I agree with you but the media has much to do with this.In my own little town we have six far eastern martial arts schools of various disciplines while the whole of my county only has two European martial arts schools.
It's my belief that our ancestors were every bit a good as hand to hand and weapon to weapon as anyone.In most cases they would have had a size advantage to eastern warriors and in a fight size does matter.
ENGLISHDOGSOLDIER 5 months ago
Nice vid.
Last time I've been out training, police arived...
dorian26uk 2 years ago
Only two things I can say...
Hearing the ring of steel and the cadence of the warrior way is music to my ears.
That and I wouldn't want to run across you in a dark alley... unless it was really, -really- narrow. Great demonstration!
Spiritrunner6 2 years ago
Sweet. How did you make the pell stand still like that?
tiamat9989 2 years ago