Ojai Day Labor Site Protest, 3-29-08 /Immigration/ Clip 1

[tenacweride]

hey asshole thats my opinion. and america should not deny people access to our country

[tenacweride]

i find your views racist geauxnosaints

[GeauxNOSaints]

Wow, an accusation of bigotry from someone unable to make a substantively defensible argument in favor of illegal immigration. Pulling the race card when you don't like an opposing opinion.  How original!

[zakkslash81]

so are u person letting immigration let be and help our town or an asshole stopping it

[GeauxNOSaints]

What?  Write that in something resembling English.

[CLAUDIAV1]

do you know two languages? no then callate la pinche boca.

[GeauxNOSaints]

Si, con tu madre!

[tlewizan]

Long live America, and as for mexico forget them.

[CLAUDIAV1]

misbehave?? maybe shes there to support them, you are the ones that go with a camara put it in their faces ask them rude questions and expect them to ignore you right?

[GeauxNOSaints]

Ignore us? No. We expect them to behave lawfully. And you're right, she was there to "support" them, at least from her perspective.

[CLAUDIAV1]

they do behave lawfully, now we can argue back and foward about the fact that an immigrant is breaking a law by beying here, to me that law has manny flaws to begin with so if its broken it is for a good cause now dont tell me americans have never broken any laws, these ppl have very good reasons to risk their lives crossing the border but some americans have no right to break some laws and they do, so besides that law with many flaws you never see them acting like you would

[DerailAmnestydotcom]

So essentially, you're argument is that it is acceptable for foreign nationals to violate U.S. immigration laws because you don't like the law and Americans violate some of their own laws?

[CLAUDIAV1]

i never said i din't like the law did i, i said the law had flaws, even the president has acknowledged that this law needs to be modified, and yes americans violate their own laws but just because its their OWN law doesnt make it right, immigrants come here for work not to party

[DerailAmnestydotcom]

Immigrants are not the issue. Illegal aliens are. Stop attempting to justify what's wrong by pointing out other wrongs.

[ciscofuego]

im not attemting to justify anything, i know what is right and, like i said we can go back and foward on this, my point of views come from experience, where does yours? anger maybe? if the law changed allot of ppl could escape war or hunger, lets not be selfish and help ppl in need, i don't mean make a bridge from the border to here and let every one in but make it more accessible, do you know the requirements for some one to come work here? they are all poor do you think they qualify? no right.

[DerailAmnestydotcom]

My "point of view" from the law and statistics. You talk about America being "accessible" to immigrants. That's a laugh. Name a dozen countries (any 12) COMBINED that allow in as many legal newcomers as the U.S. each year, and you can then continue to talk about lack of access. You don't know what you're talking about. Be honest. You just want to let everyone in who you like. Sorry, no nation works that way, including the U.S.

[CLAUDIAV1]

and since when do immigrants kill more ppl than americans do? and since you have values, why are you not upset with americans rather thatn immigrants because americans kill more ppl than an immigrant would, immigrants are no treat to you but you are to them and you like to see them get picked on and abused by americans, nice values you have there.

[Met666]

When a mexican comes here, he gets horny too, and will find a little dog or 11 year old american girl to "use" to take care of his business. When he gets thirsty, he will crack open some beers, and then keep drinking until he is over the legal limit, and then get behind the wheel and kill an American. Their victims are never other illegal aliens, its always innocent Americans.

[CLAUDIAV1]

wow, what does a mexican have to do with this? we are talking about immigrants not mexicans, and yes like you said just like mexicans americans get horny lol, i didn't know you liked dogs or 11 year olds and i asure you their is more americans drinking and driving than their is immigrants.

[DerailAmnestydotcom]

And the fact that Americans drink and drive justifies that fact that illegal alien drunk drivers kill hundreds of U.S. citizens each year.  Claudia, you need to go get yourself a decent set of values.

[CLAUDIAV1]

and the fact that an American was driving drunk when he crashed onto me makes it ok just because hes american? you think that if an American brakes the same law as a immigrant the american should get away with it an the immigrant should not?

what makes it ok for a American to break that law, you don't see the news say it was an american citicen who did it but when 1 out of 1,000 immigrants does it its the head line of the week isnt it, why because that rarely happens.

[DerailAmnestydotcom]

No, no one said that. Are you thick or are you intentionally attempting to misrepresent the issue?

[Met666]

Hey Claudia, can I rape you because some Americans break the law, and I would be doing a job most Americans dont want to do? I can go punch an old lady and steal her purse, because some americans already break the law. Its no big deal. Think about the logic you use, before you post.

[CLAUDIAV1]

did you reed what i said or did you just post what ever you thought i said, how can you compare a killing or raping from some one comming here to work? uhhhh! so you think that if you rape me vs, killing an old lady you deserve the same punishment, is that what you are saying, if the president admits the law has flaws how can you treat them as killers and thats what im saying. i hope you don't own a dog or even worse are anywere near an 11 year old.

[Met666]

Some of these illegals have been charged with these crimes. Look'em up.

[CLAUDIAV1]

YEAH some, about how many of them? there are also americans that comit crimes, we are all humans not all of us are good ppl, what is the persantage of immigrants that commit crimes and what is the persentage of americans that commit crimes? its more likely that an american will commit the crime and i did look it up, and you are right most americans wont want to RAPE me because its a crime what point are you tring to prove?

[Met666]

You call those rude questions? Fuckin ms. sensitivity!

[wrightpaw]

reading the post its hard to determine whose the good guys. A little off message don't ya think? Ole' Soldier

[skhooll]

Another TOOL 4 ame3rica. I hope someone was there when your "heritage" immigrated.

[replay917]

This "coverage" is highly misleading. He's not showing the protest that showed up on the opposite corner, which this was a counter-protest to.

I was there that day. The cameraman's lady-friends had lots of pepper spray, and were threatening citizenry. These are not the good guys, don't be fooled.

[oldrebel]

If it is so misleading, where is your film?

[GeauxNOSaints]

Attention, High Chieftain of Misinformation: We were the protestors. Your Marxist, Anarchist and La Raza pals came to counter-protest us. And the only "citizenry" in danger of catching some pepper spray was you. And if you really don't like pepper spray, next time attack one of the male members of our group rather than trying to wrench a flag out of a woman's hand.

[replay917]

This is a lie; I never touched a single one of your members. Whispering campaigns seem to be about par for the course with your affiliated groups. Post footage of "me" grabbing the flag if you have any, which you don't.

[GeauxNOSaints]

You're right. I don't. And if I had seen you try to grab something from a woman, pepper spray would have been the least of your problems.

[replay917]

I believe you are talking about when the woman who was to threaten me with pepper spray let her flag drape over my face, I believe purposefully, to take away my vision. I brushed it away and she pulled out the pepper spray. I had every reason to believe you were planning to beat me en masse, and that the loss of my vision was a precursor to this. This is also why you have no footage of anyone "grabbing" anything, coincidentally. Now please stop spreading misinformation yourself, sir.

[GeauxNOSaints]

Stop prattling away, you loon. If you hadn't been looking for trouble, you could have walked away after our first encounter. You were shadowing our general vicinity for two hours after you blurted out your demand that I recite the names of the 50 states. Beat you "en masse"? With what? 4 middle aged women?

[replay917]

Maybe the guy with the prison tattoos who came up to me later and said "I've been in jail for five years" with a look in his eyes that suggested he would have been willing to go back that day would have done it for them? After "Susan" had pulled her flag away from where she let it drape over me to take away my vision, and sprayed me in the eyes first, of course.

You absolutely terrorized the citizenry of Ojai that day, and I will have that recorded on the comments section here. That's all.

[GeauxNOSaints]

Dude, lying doesn't make you believable, it just makes you common.

[replay917]

This "coverage" is highly misleading. He's not showing the protest that showed up on the opposite corner, which this was a counter-protest to.

I was there that day. The cameraman's lady-friends had lots of pepper spray, and were threatening citizenry. These are not the good guys, don't be fooled.

[illegaldestroyer]

We don't need no stinking day laborers. Hire an American. The govt should shut down all of these illegal alien shelters!

[linwooddeaton]

I think it's funny that the illegals and thier supporters always need someone like the blond to tell them what to do.

Illegal handlers,you see them in every bunch.

[moniecita]

She's in other videos and is a wanna be! Great job!