Pierre Boulez: Première Sonate pour Piano (Aimard) with score

[yuiop6310]

................and so the flaming war ensues, both parties never realizing that they are complementary hemispheres of each other. While the real professionals combine the two together to create masterpieces.

[MrIbanezrg550]

if you don't like it don't listen to it, IMO i think atonal music is so much more complex than the alternative, you eliminate the "need" to flow within a certain limitation of given options, more options more potential outcomes therefore more thought put into a work. but hey IMO means you don't care based on principle too. 'Merica

[blaugranadirectioner]

Damn and i need to do an assignement about this...

[flippen47]

my ears are bleeding.

[flammesombres]

@flippen47 how precious! 

[ArcangeloMassoni]

Any single bar by Bach, or by Mozart, or by Beethoven or by Brahms or by Schumann or by Telemann or by Sweelinck or by Janequin or by any first-year pupil of composition in the Academy of my town, is MUCH, much more worthy than this entire "Sonata".

Time will do justice of all this stuff, soon.

[flammesombres]

@ArcangeloMassoni Prove it.

[ArcangeloMassoni]

@flammesombres Everyone who isn't deaf or biased can realize it.

[flammesombres]

@ArcangeloMassoni ....again, prove it?

[gera1262]

@ArcangeloMassoni I find it ironic that I found one Boulez's pieces in a college textbook as an example on how to construct a good melody.

[dharmaseed]

Zappa's orchestral music was a fine precursor to this.

[enunna]

a question from a layman... I recognize this as music, but to be honest, my untrained ear only hears random notes. I feel that I could write a computer program to generate this. Can someone with more understanding explain the structure to this? I see people commenting on emotions. I hear none. Help.

[flammesombres]

@enunna computer programs have been used to write tonal music, too... so the problem is more to do with the sound. if you're unaccustomed to these sound worlds, all you can do is get yourself used to them, and the best way to do that is to listen to it lots... that's the essential thing. but personally I wouldn't start here, start with things like the Webern string trio or symphonie op 21 (sorry, I'm assuming you're not familiar with atonality - correct me if I'm wrong)

[mirrors1]

Ma qui, Pierre è addirittura commovente

[lovesGenet]

This will never fascinate me the way the second sonata and the Barraque do. It has its qualities its textures ,timings and changing meters .It's completely different world. @nd sonata even though he eschews repetition has lots of obvious congruities. I must find some explanations of these 2 sonatas.why can 4 part harmonies & so much dense incident seem worlds apart ? both have endings that r unforgettable. This z one movement . Quick fix!

[Alexjr1543]

If all of you like this, then fine, be my guest, but I really don't understand how atonality is supposed to make a piece good.

Perhaps I'm just ignorant.

[AfroDeezeeYak]

@Alexjr1543 Atonality isn't 'supposed to make a piece good'. Neither is tonality.

Now you know.

[williampiano123]

Hello!

Is there any chance you can tell me where you got the PDF score for this piece? or mail me a copy? im desperate to play it but can only find the sheet music for £65 a copy!!

Cheers

[patrickloiseleur]

@williampiano123: the score price is 13€ on di-arezzo which looks reasonable to me (indeed 65£ is outrageous)

[TheClassicalFun]

Add to my favorites

[mohamedalyfarag]

and he was only 21...

[lovesGenet]

will I ever be able to memorize this music. the textures. sounds so much changes. There is a system behind this. I'd like to read the explanation. Carl vine seems much simpler , too traditional when u compare it to this. The melodies and shapes here are just...awesome. ANOTHER WORLD!!!

[snatchingthepiano]

@lovesGenet I believe the standard practice for "new" music (especially something like this Boulez sonata) is that it need not be memorized even in performance because it's simply too complex and "strange" to memorize without an extravagant amount of work, compared to what most pianists are used to playing/memorizing.

[lovesGenet]

Wonderful to see this sonata. Is it really very diffferent really from 2nd sonata. On the page they are very different to ear maybe not. The intervallic and tine relationships seem to change more often. would like to read some essays on this piece. Def do some research.

[contemporymusicfan]

wow this piece is overwhelmingly beautiful the emotions indescribable 

[EsGeh]

sharp, wild. beautiful

[pgweeks]

Including the score along with the music is a very good idea. Alas, it seems like a lot of work.

[MarcheseCadmio88]

Thank you for submitting the score! I think it's really useful to have it in written form under the eyes (especially modern music, which cannot be fully understood with a simple listening).