Wyschnegradsky - Twenty-four Preludes in Quarter-tones; No. 3

[Kivimusic]

Thats absolutely MAGIC.

[jazzbuckeye]

tabs plz

[HerrWarja]

This is very soothing, in a weary and scary way... 

[PippiQ9]

This makes me chuckle

[17205513]

@PippiQ9 it makes me want to laugh as well. Something about is funny in an odd way.

[SteinwayArtist]

imagine if Yiruma started using quarter tones....

[DeadRavers]

sounds like every time I play Chopin on a piano at Goodwill....

[vincentizghra]

Can somebody explain how to write this music on traditional sheetpaper?

[DCioccoloni]

@vincentizghra just use half-sharps and half-flats.

[TheHeraldic]

@vincentizghra I'm srr man, but that's kind of a dumb question, you can read on the sheet music right? a regular sharp is # and you can leave one vertical line out, (I can't type it here) or add one, you can see it in the video

[vincentizghra]

@TheHeraldic Yea but I'm pretty stupid, still I'd like to know these kinds of stuff. I can read sheet music, but didn't look at the video while watching the first few times. I realize now that if I would have I would have seen it...

[GypsyPianist]

Please can someone tell me without me having to go to the piano if this piano is in tune or not?

[f1f1s]

This is a true masterpiece, but still there is much to discover in quarter-tone music. New laws to invent, new beutiful chords to discover, new scales to rush through and so on. If only building up 2 keyboards were easier...

[AmalgamOfMeat]

I didn't really like it the 1st time I heard it but it sounds kinda catchy now.

[JTylerBentley]

@AmalgamOfMeat Be Careful... The more you listen to this type of stuff, the more your brain starts to figure it out, the more you start to appreciate it. Haha. Its a good thing because it opens up a whole new world of musical possibilities. Its a bad thing because people think you are weird.

[NavidK0]

This sounds amazing. This type of music needs more composers.

[unagondolaunremo]

i fear the we, listener, correct the "mistakes" and think to hear normal notes, just not too much in tune

[nobodady1]

This is just chromaticism squared.

[yenproject]

Ripley ¡ The microtonalism was invented by a mexican, Julian Carrillo, check him in you tube,

[schumacherenator]

This is the coolest fucking piece I've ever heard.

[MrOliverKjaerulff]

This is played by having 2 pianists play 2 different pianos, where one is tuned a quarter-tone above/below the other. However, Wyschnegrady himself had a custom made piano, with 2 sets of keys (like a old cemballo) that could be tuned individually!

[pondwatcher]

@MrOliverKjaerulff I was wondering how they did it!

[qwAirGear]

I like this one, but let me say that the most accessible part seemed to be some of those chords at the end. It seems like chords incorporating microtones would be a good way to use some of these ideas in pieces that more people would appreciate.

[EdiEllerymissing]

Microtonal tonalism?

[Bongoke]

groovy

[EnterJustice]

I'm sorry, but my ears, accustomed to the 12-tone scale, percieve this as being very out-of-key and out-of-tune music.

[8bitvlad]

WOW, awesome. Another composer that goes to search piano music list, lol. Thanks for the vid

[OceansBoulevard]

Is it for a pianoforte??? Or for two???

[ThePhilAndAlexShow]

@OceansBoulevard for a custom built piano

[sutphoe]

THIS IS AMAZING!

[gymgymgymgym]

the theory of this type of music must be crazy!

[kratanuva725]

@gymgymgymgym Not really, you just add neutral intervals to your arsenal of major, minor, perfect, and augmented intervals.

[ixsetf]

@kratanuva725 it is gonna be more complicated than that, now you can have 5 new kinds of triads, I don't even think they have names, other than the neutral triad. and now you have to throw away the circle of fifths too.

[kratanuva725]

@ixsetf Well, you have major, minor, neutral, subminor, and supermajor. I guess that you could technically have more by altering the 5th degree, in which case the triads created might be called semi-augmented and semi-diminished. (and those names have been used before, just for intervals, not triads)

But the point is, quarter tones don't really functionally change much, they typically act as color. I suppose you could have root motion by quarter tones, but still...

[kratanuva725]

@ixsetf Even something like 14 tone equal isn't all that complicated. 6 fifths = an octave instead of 11. Diatonic semitones are tempered out, chromatic semitones are untempered. There's your functional difference, you can also explain it's coloristic difference by comparing cent sizes to just intonation or equal temperament (whatever floats your boat) People tend to think microtonality is more complicated, and more strange sounding than it actually is.

[ixsetf]

@kratanuva725 well, I have a question to ask you, how would you apply conventional music theory to intervals like a neutral third? The problem I see is that while we have some theory for microtonal works, there is so much more to add to it. If you add in neutral thirds the number of possible chords skyrockets. There are only 7 seventh chords that can be diatonicly constructed if you add neutral thirds to that there are 26.

[kratanuva725]

@ixsetf The thing is, I'm not using conventional music theory. I'm using general principles that I have developed on my own that apply equally to any tuning. Neutral thirds approximate 11/9, and since the ratio is a prime of 11, it's function could either be an extended consonance, or an interval simply used for color/melodic effects. See, nothing really changes much. The thing is, a lot of people intuitively understand how microtonal music works, but nobody has published those ideas.

[kratanuva725]

@ixsetf (woo, sorry about the long post) I let a friend (no knowledge of microtonality) listen to a piece of mine composed in 9 tone equal tuning, (4 fifths equals a minor third instead of a major third) and he didn't find it strange at all; he just said it was modally interesting. :)

[Icewalker]

@gymgymgymgym If you want to know about Microtonal Theory, there's no real set instructions on writing for quartertones or microtones. I know two composers who bothered to write books of theory about them are Alois Haba (24 tone Equal Temperament) and Harry Partch (43 tone Just Intonation.) I wish I could help you figure out how Wyschnegradsky works out his music but who knows.

[MagicDonDino]

extraordinary!!

It sound so strange!

Anyone can tell me what are that microtones?

[lorenzarthur91]

@MagicDonDino

it's like having an additional key between all the keys of the piano, thus, the usually smallest intervall, the minor second, is divided

[askthemailman]

thank you for this.