crob227's spiral plate cell & Battery drill trigger.

[vox1philippines]

sorry bro, what do you mean BATTERY DRILL TRIGER.... THANKZ

[m3sca1]

@vox1philippines the trigger from a cordless drill is a cheap PWM

[vox1philippines]

@m3sca1 Got it ! thankz.......

[vox1philippines]

GET REAL !

[m3sca1]

@vox1philippines what do you mean?

[vox1philippines]

@m3sca1 this are the REAL HHO CELL we need bro!  check mine too... !

[m3sca1]

@vox1philippines sorry i had to be sure of your meaning.in my country GET REAL means .wake up to yourself!its amazing how many people have made a cell like this,not even knowing about shigeta.i suppose the adaptation to the spiral is obvious.i didnt know about shigeta's 1978 patent until veiwing your video 2days ago

[vox1philippines]

@m3sca1 Sorry too bro.... this kind of cell is already in my car... as i observed, this cell is producing heat fast, so we need to control the Amps, and have a nice cooling system as i have in my HONDA CITY, the good news here is i dont nead to use any kind of electrolites that can damage my pump components for my cooling system to control the heat for my cell...check it bro..... I LOVE THIS CELL.....

[m3sca1]

@vox1philippines are you using distilled water?a PWM will help control heat problems as well as keep the amps down.

i had my cell in a diesel toyota hiace van-definatley saved fuel.

[Ace011mm]

I cant understand?? Do you increase production with battery drill trigger?

[m3sca1]

@Ace011mm the idea of the pwm is to keep gas production high and current low-there is always a trade off-if you run straight DC no pulse you will heat quick and get runaway amps-but lots of gas

with pulse you less gas but slower runaway amps and less heat-try doing it with a PWM and distilled water which is not conductive and when you still get gas you know you are already doing what Faraday said doesnt work.

[Ace011mm]

@m3sca1 Txanks! But my question is: why this cell have great production? Pwm and frequency? Or good design? Or just high amps?? :)

I think pwm alone cant increase production without toroid or bifiliar coil... or I am wrong? Also,now I experimenting with low or no current leakage cells generators and I have a problem with no heating...

[superwhiz88]

thanks crob227 for your hard work .. this stuff is worse then cocaine.. i can't quit the addition .. no food no work no sleep no wife , so long as i have my hho now..

[vox1philippines]

@superwhiz88 @superwhiz88 HEHEHE ....... NOW IM REHABILITATION CENTER HHO relate LOL !!!...... NOW a little bit slowdown bro.... still love doing HHO stuff................

[superwhiz88]

@vox1philippines i can feel it my self...

[gr8gator95]

thanks. Sorry for the misunderstanding..what I meant was the neg lead placed in the coil, and the same with the positive. I see that they are both on the outside, top and bottom, but is the negative (or positive) in series like +-+-+-+... thanks again for the response, I'll be getting a cordless drill this weekend to disassemble any suggestions, 14.4v, 18v, etc. thanks again

[m3sca1]

its a parrallel plate arrangement.

if it wasnt wound into a coil,it would be only 2 plates about 1.5 ft long each.

but since its a coil, from the outside goin in it would be +-+-+-+- etc.

and opposite if the trigger switch is reversed.

continued...

[m3sca1]

...advice on drill-dont spend too much money-its only the trigger you want and i destroyed a few before i learnt not to hook them in ways that kill them.

get a good brand one from a pawn shop cheap.

and i figure the higher the volts and amp hr rating in the batteries -the better the trigger will handle the current.

i can get the trigger ive had goin for a while now to pull so many amps the wires start smoking,and it was 18 volt drill.

cheap ones dont last.

[nickgc123]

would a 14.8v work?

[m3sca1]

yeah- just be careful not to reverse polarity the connections and blow the trigger as others have done.

i know that seems obvious....

[gr8gator95]

very nice job! I just saw this and I was curious about a few things..Where did you connect your positive and negative leads? The material you used, is it ONE coil wound and just separated or is are they tubes separated? If it's coils, where did you obtain it from? And with this video, you used a pwm from a drill and JUST water?

[m3sca1]

i built the coil from 304 stainless strip-for details see my video

Projekt HHO test cell #1

and yes tap water only with PWM from battery drill,the cell is connected as though it were the motor in the drill,attachments to the cell are top and bottom.

[Careica]

Lot of gas! I can imagine amount of those all small bubles! Thousents, eaven maybe milion.

[AerykR]

Nice amount of gas.

[HtwoOpower]

Good Job & GR-8 Idea using drill parts !

coils coils ...

you can try ignition coil may be.

if i can get my hands on a drill this weekend, than i would try too .....

[Leftwings22]

Quite impressive results, quite impressive ingenuity.

5* from me.

Lefty

[shooter001]

can you show us your lawton circuit, I understand he missed off the resonant charging choke. Have you solved this problem? Nice going. Craig.

[m3sca1]

it aint finished yet i gotta go to the shop and get some rotary switches,i will show you when its done.the choke was on the schematic i got.i wiil PM you the link if u like,or you can google

-bubbler(s) lid to be a tight push fit-

and you will find it

[energyalt56]

@m3sca1 Hello, what tool in a pawn shop come with a rotary switches ? Thank You

[pi3573]

very cool m3s! :]

[cyberscann54]

Ok so it is a PWM but we need info!!!!

Whats the voltage?

Whats the amperage?

Whats the frequency and duty cycle and wave form?

Whats the LPM with and without PWM and at different settings ?

How many amps and volts can the PWM handle?

Is it cost effective?

[m3sca1]

it was a 14.4v battery (from the drill)

it pulls up to 11.5 amps in tap water

i dont have an oscilloscope,so i cant answer freq,duty,or waveform.

i will do volumes when i get bigger leads,and weld terrminals to the cell.

as for cost $25 didnt break the bank,and i got motor, gearbox, battery,charger and a chuck.

i paid about$40 for the parts for the lawton ciruit.