The cars ARE tied down in autoracks- that's the main concern with humping loaded ones. The autos can be severely damaged (in the area of the hooks) from the jolt. It's really tough to operate a good hump yard in fine scales because, ounce for ounce, friction affects tiny cars/trucks more than big ones. you must weight all your cars and keep your axle points/truck frame sockets impeccable and lubed. wheel gauge is critical to rolling resistance, as well. P&LE had a great humper in youngstown.
do you slow them down some how? I've thought about building a hump yard some day, but always figured they would hit too hard and just cause a lot of derailments, which would take the fun out of it!!! I guess if one sat down and experimented they would find a way to do it!!! I just never spent the time thinking about it lol
Rivet Counters! :-) Just kidding. Yeah, considering that a derailment would means tons of cash going to the automobile company, I can see that. See previous reply to JohnnyNCindy comment. This is just a friend's layout. He does not quite do protoype 100%.
Actually, they don't hump the cars because they did it before and the autorack coasting down a hill and then stopping causes the cars inside to shift and the shift can cause damage.
@BigJoe6401 Hey, how did you get the cars to uncouple like that? Is there some special device you have in place, or is the design of the hump causing the cars to naturally uncouple?
I believe that they separated the cars with a bamboo skewer on the approach track prior to being seen on the video screen. Then, with all of the car couplers unlashed, the engine simply pushes the entire train to that spot where each car rolls down the slope. Kadee makes a passive track magnet to achieve this separation as well. However, I have been told that it is not always reliable because it works best if there is slack between the two car couplers: not always easy to create.
@becharger1 If that's true, then they're humping them empty. Even when empty, it's risky because the autorack is tall enough to flip over if it derails.
@diburning I worked in that yard for 9 years and currently work for RJ Corman, they hump loads. Always have, always will. It doesn't hurt the cars. The biggest concern with humping auto racks is bypassed couplers and that has nothing to do with being loaded or empty.
@becharger1 if your talking about Louisville, Ky; thats almost literally the only thing you see coming and going from Louisville are autorack trains!!!
Actually, it's bamboo skewers! They somehow have the knack to separate the couplers on the way up to keep them from re-coupling up to the apex of the ramp.
What you see is the classification bowl on John's layout. The approach has four arrival tracks that merge into the one to the ramp.
BigJoe6401 1 month ago
I couldnt tell did the hump yard tracks end or do the tracks go all the way thru to another track?
TheUnionpacific4008 1 month ago
Kewl
MrShadowknight2000 4 months ago
Very cool! This is really neat!
TheAZJacob 7 months ago
Is that "sweet Thing" by Kieth Urban, I here playing in the back ground!
bagnome 7 months ago
The cars ARE tied down in autoracks- that's the main concern with humping loaded ones. The autos can be severely damaged (in the area of the hooks) from the jolt. It's really tough to operate a good hump yard in fine scales because, ounce for ounce, friction affects tiny cars/trucks more than big ones. you must weight all your cars and keep your axle points/truck frame sockets impeccable and lubed. wheel gauge is critical to rolling resistance, as well. P&LE had a great humper in youngstown.
swimmerB0B 8 months ago
lose the camera man!
swimmerB0B 8 months ago
Be neat if I can find a way to model a hump yard, they look pretty cool!
likestallwomen 8 months ago
do you slow them down some how? I've thought about building a hump yard some day, but always figured they would hit too hard and just cause a lot of derailments, which would take the fun out of it!!! I guess if one sat down and experimented they would find a way to do it!!! I just never spent the time thinking about it lol
WorldOfNothin 8 months ago
GREAT HUMP YARD, Especially in N scale...COOL!
Trolleymoose 11 months ago
Awsome hump yard!!
Gary Barnett
Watertown, NY
Watertown Model Railroad Club
curraheewolf 1 year ago
They do hump autoracks but they have to be empty.
railfan81 1 year ago 5
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becharger1 1 year ago
Do you have problems with the speed going down the ramp? How you prevent them from derailing?
chefjavier 2 years ago
One word........WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
trainman122 2 years ago 2
awesome layout
jorgeniscool 2 years ago
They use bamboo skewers to separate the cars and move the kuckles apart. Then they slowly push the car over the hump.
BigJoe6401 2 years ago
how do u activate the uncoupling and what kind of switches are you using
trackspike64 2 years ago
Great clip.
Pac3steel 2 years ago
cool video after watchign extream trains and them uing the hump I know when I model I have to put that on my yard.
mccunecp 3 years ago
Thats totally crazy! Love it!!!
jwerren78 3 years ago
THUD! No wonder the real railroads use mechanical retarders to slow the cars down before they enter the bowl...
Neat video!
TrainManTy 3 years ago
cool! But in real life, Autoracks usually aren't humped if ever
diburning 3 years ago 6
Rivet Counters! :-) Just kidding. Yeah, considering that a derailment would means tons of cash going to the automobile company, I can see that. See previous reply to JohnnyNCindy comment. This is just a friend's layout. He does not quite do protoype 100%.
BigJoe6401 3 years ago
Actually, they don't hump the cars because they did it before and the autorack coasting down a hill and then stopping causes the cars inside to shift and the shift can cause damage.
diburning 3 years ago
See, I did not know that. I thought the cars were hooked up some way. Thanks.
BigJoe6401 3 years ago
The yard where I work, we hump anything and everything. Autos, LPG, even loads of pump. Got wheels? Over the hill it goes.
civil1guy 3 years ago
@BigJoe6401 Hey, how did you get the cars to uncouple like that? Is there some special device you have in place, or is the design of the hump causing the cars to naturally uncouple?
ZacksPlace2010 2 months ago
I believe that they separated the cars with a bamboo skewer on the approach track prior to being seen on the video screen. Then, with all of the car couplers unlashed, the engine simply pushes the entire train to that spot where each car rolls down the slope. Kadee makes a passive track magnet to achieve this separation as well. However, I have been told that it is not always reliable because it works best if there is slack between the two car couplers: not always easy to create.
MrMCBvideo 1 week ago
@MrMCBvideo Yeah, I found out about the magnets after I posted that. The electromagnets too!
ZacksPlace2010 5 days ago
@diburning I haven't seen FULL auto carriers humped, but empties I have, OAK ISLAND "NEWARK N.J."
TJBV08 1 year ago
@diburning , actually at CSX's yard in Louisville, about all they hump are autoracks.
becharger1 1 year ago
@becharger1 If that's true, then they're humping them empty. Even when empty, it's risky because the autorack is tall enough to flip over if it derails.
diburning 1 year ago
@diburning I worked in that yard for 9 years and currently work for RJ Corman, they hump loads. Always have, always will. It doesn't hurt the cars. The biggest concern with humping auto racks is bypassed couplers and that has nothing to do with being loaded or empty.
becharger1 6 months ago
@becharger1 What I said was based on an incident with CSX damaging the vehicles by humping the racks. I don't remember how long ago it was though.
diburning 6 months ago
@becharger1 if your talking about Louisville, Ky; thats almost literally the only thing you see coming and going from Louisville are autorack trains!!!
WorldOfNothin 8 months ago
@diburning- Actually, they are. Just not as much as hoppers or boxcars.
UPRR11 3 months ago
@UPRR11 They may hump the empty ones.
diburning 3 months ago
Nice, What grade are you using for the yard?
JohnnyNCindy 3 years ago
I do not know the grade used for the hump. This is at a friend's layout in the club.
BigJoe6401 3 years ago
nice video, good work!!!
BaronvonBavert 3 years ago
Actually, it's bamboo skewers! They somehow have the knack to separate the couplers on the way up to keep them from re-coupling up to the apex of the ramp.
BigJoe6401 3 years ago
pretty sweet, what releasing the couplers? magnematics i geuss?
golfingrobert 3 years ago
thats really cool! i wish i had room for all this kinda shit...
ballparkfrank10 3 years ago 2