Attraction, strength, are these things not supposed to be empowering? Of course, none of this is as important as what lies in a persons heart. That should always be the goal. But is it really that terrible to also desire (if possible) a pleasing face, a strong back, and the wisdom of Solomen to boot? These atributes are tools. The more the better. And then we must have the knowledge and strength of character to weild our tools properly.
This is the most intellectually diminished way to examine gender in media that I've ever seen. Let me guess, you're a first year in college and took a general anthropology course? I hope that's the case, because if you're anything else then this is even more pathetic than I thought.
I don't see the point of criticizing a movie made in the 1930s of gender stereotyping. That's their society back then! If you look at the evolution of Disney animations, you'd be able to see breakthroughs in different stages, like girls can independent and can fight(Mulan, Rapunzel), handsome guys can be assholes(Gaston) or lazy people(Naveen). Disney already has colored people starring in its animations, so who knows? Maybe geeks and fat girls would star in Disney's next fabulous animation~
I think it's funny how everyone wants to believe Disney are flawless, innocent, victims therefore perfect and should be free from criticism. They are a corporation, they want to make money and they write these things on purpose, nothing happens accidentally. This isn't a criticism of how good or bad the films are, they are obviously good but they endlessly churn out stereotype after stereotype and they don't tend to write strong characters.
Snow white is just being optimistic as she works. It's better than stomping around and growling. Some people like cleaning. I do. I listen to music while I clean. 2. Ariel followed her dream, and she didn't HAVE to stay with her family. Some people move far away from their parents with a boy. Plus, in the movies, she still visits her father. The witch is evil so "she who holds her tongue gets a man" is obviously her lying. 3. Jasmine was protecting Alladin. I'd do the same if it was one of the
no no no...in some movies females were the lead...and controlled the movie...like Mulan....Cinderella, etc....Now I think its rather unfair what you are saying...for example Captain Shang was "manly", yet a pretty girl like Mulan was technically more "manly"...she was the big hero...cinderella showed "guts" even though there was a male character...cinderella was obviously the champion of the film.
1:So what if she's positive? She never says it's her duty as a woman!
2: Ariel wanted to go to the surface before she met Eric! She even says in part of your world "What would I give if I could live out of these waters" She made sacrafices for her dream.
3: She KNEW he was just after her status and beauty, she did this for a man who loves her beyond that.
4: The towns people were idiots. So, if your all looks, idiots will like you.
5: The message is that girls can do whatever boys can do!
With all respect, Ursula is a saleswoman and a witch. She was trying to persuade Ariel into giving up her voice and had to come up with some "legitimate" reasons to do so. Besides, it's not like Ariel had much time to figure it out for herself what guys liked. . : /
I don't think they're forced upon us. I just think its how it always has been. I'm not saying its right, but you shouldnt judge gender roles in society. They had and have a place. Some of them are obviously extreme. But its good that were talking about this.
THE WHOLE POINT IN BEAUTY AND THE BEST IS THAT ANYONE CAN LOVE YOU KNOW MATTER HOW YOU LOOK! You clearly took the most stereotypical parts and put them together.Not to mention the time in which these movies were made was a time when women did stay home. Most of the girls in Disney played a significant role that saved lives: Pocahontas, Jasmine, Belle, the mother on dumbo, the mom on lion king, Jane ( who was the smarter one), and SEVERAL MORE! SO GIVE ME A BREAK! Like if your a disney fan! YEAH
Umm what. Yeah there are gender roles- but there are muscled men and girls who clean. Are you now condemning people who want to make the most out of doing housework. I sing when I do the dishes. Normal people. Yeah there could be more variety but how about we just make everything unisex eh
first of all i don't find this heavenly gendered at all. snow white being the good motherly woman she is she decided to clean the house because lets face it a house full of men who work the mines all day really aren't going to want to come home and clean anyway. the rest of your so called examples really don't make since. "why are we forcing these roles on our children?" pfft sorry but i don't want homosexual kids. and you wonder why chivalry is dead, news flash you equality fanatics killed it!
Yeah, yeah, Heavily masculine and violent with bulging muscles, that explains the hunchback of Notre dame. Little freaking guy with a hunchback and not much muscles to them. And I'm sure scrawny little aladdin fit that bill quite nicely as well.
the beast doesn't fit the male role either and even when he changes at the end, he looks pretty average to me, plus you only see the human form for like four minutes then the movie ends, the point is that belle fell in love with him even when he looked like a beast, and she doesn't even recognize him when he changes at first
well, kwazimodo from the hunchback of notre dame doesn't fit the typical male role and he is one of the most likable of all the disney men, he is also a main character where as most of the princes have less sceen time then many of the side characters,
@LongLiveLink3 Part of the GLBT community myself... and I generally agree that Disney is sexist. But what do people expect? If they want something LESS sexist, they need to find it or make it, if it doesn't exist. Or wait until a child is older, then let them watch the movies and explain both the good parts and the not-so-good parts. Children shouldn't be plopped in front of a TV so young anyhow.
I think people look far to into the gender roles of disney.
The example of snow white:
Should we teach children to act unhappy and angry when cleaning? To make is just another chore or show them that you can have fun while you are doing it. Yes she might be a woman but that doesn't mean that they are saying that only women work. It's just a natural thing for women. How many bachelor's keep their houses clean and organized? Now apply that to seven bachelors living in the middle of a forest mine.
@qutieyf07 As for Ariel. She is talking to the VILLAIN here! Not only is she trying to trick Arial into getting out of the way and gaining the Trident. Once on the surface the Prince tries to get her to talk wanting to get to know her. He ends up with THE VILLAIN WHO CAN TALK because she tricks him. All he wants it to have Ariel as she is. Talking singing Ariel.
@qutieyf07 As for Jasmine and Jafar. Jafar is trying desperately to get Jasmine as his queen though she refuses because she is in love with Aladdin. Aladdin shows up and she knows the only way to distract Jafar, who might I ad is in the process of trying to force Genie to use his magic powers to make her love him, by acting as if the Genie did so Aladdin can save her.
Gason goes without mention because again. He is the villian of the entire movie showing how not to act and ends up being so selfish and self centered that he gets thrown off of the roof of the castle to his death. Yea, kids wanna be like Gaston alright. no I'm pretty sure they want to be like the beast although he was scary and unappealing belle got to know him and fell in love with him.
@qutieyf07 And as for Mulan she is a WOMAN in a MANS army in CHINA! She is part of a new group of recruits who can't do a thing related to the army. Shang is mearly trying to whip them into shape, turn boys into men and make them good enough to save the empire. Mulan goes on to defeat the Hun's and save China all while being a girl disguised as a man. Once found out she continues to try to save china. In the end the emperor bows to her.
@swevixeh1 Mulan was newer and really shouldn't be listed...the "majority" of Disney films are sexist though...but during the era the "original" stories were written, society was sexist....and well, times changed...but the movies still reflect those days...Gender roles were around before Disney, letting kids watch these movies will not over ride the effect of their society...Sexism is everywhere but as a man you underest. its affect on girls and female lives around the world. Try being perfect
@kanohane "Try being perfect". Yeah, that's kind of like asking me to be Tyler Durden from fight club: Strong, intelligent, handsome and successful in general. The reason I'm not trying to be like him is that it's impossible: It's nothing but fiction. Nobody can be perfect and only the stupid turn themselves into slaves of other people's shallow opinions, trying their best to please everyone around them rather than truly living.
@swevixeh1 Because its obvious...don't even deny it. That's what boys learn through society from the day they're born. While girls learn that they have to live up to be the impossible or either be rejected.
@kanohane Because its obvious...don't even deny it. That's what boys learn through society from the day they're born. While girls learn that they have to live up to be the impossible or either be rejected.
oh please all stories a bases on the hero mythos this is just make the hero female. the problem is it's all about money.disney movies just suck because they are no longer an artful. And the people who own disney are dumb and talentless Greedy holes. that just want to reap money from movie merchandising focusing on girls as their parents statistically buy more of that junk for them..
@GlasgowPhilosipher I agree with a lot of what you said. However, I think what this person was trying to say was slighly different. Hercules WAS a protagonist and non-violent, true. But this is an example of how young boys are taught how to be, and if they are not physically powerful, they won't amount to anything. Gaston was the bad guy. But he was also the man who had all the friends and got the girls. I think the older Disney movies had a lot more blatant sexism.
@GlasgowPhilosipher Cinderella being a servan wasn't sexist in itself, but I think the overall message of the film was. If you are beautiful, that alone will solve your problems; but not based on anything you do yourself. You need someone to dress you up and then a male character to come and save you. I remember friends of mine feeling like they would never amount to anything because they were not pretty. I like most of your points, however.
@GlasgowPhilosipher If Hercules isnt violent, then how do you call act of chopping of heads and slicing monsters? He is justified by doing good for others, but it is the FACT the he was a killer. Disney has changed many of original fairy tales, and if you look closer, Snow White is young heroine who in original tale is not forced to do anything. Similarly Ursula in original tale was acting as someone to help Ariel get transformed and Disney changed her to evil witch- a lie.
@GlasgowPhilosipher also, Ariel in original tale gives up her voice for totally different reason, and Disney distorted it. And Mulan song might be ironical, but the whole film shows how much women have to do and still they are treated with disrespect. Example- how does grandma react after Mulan comes home? She sais she would prefer if girl brought back a man , not a sword!! Disney clearly enforces bad gender stereotypes and women are being put down in most of the films!
@BasiaOwczarek Most of the films are based on old fairy tales written in times when those kind of gender roles were still culturally relevant, but I'm just sick of this whole debate.
If people don't want their kids to learn bad morals, gender stereotpes or whatever, they should monitor what their kids are watching and talk to them to build an understanding of what they take from it, rather than just blaming the films and reading stuff into it that isn't there.
@GlasgowPhilosipher I totally understand your point, but I believe that videos/debates like this are brought to the audience's eye only to open eyes to those who do not get these subtle messages some cartoons may send. Of course it is up to parents to control what their kids are watching and educate them, but some parents simply cannot see the danger themselves. I am big fan of Disney animations mainly to the aesthetics they present. But fairy tales have been adapted in anti-feministic way.
And I haven't seen a man who's complaining about this movie, because it could transfer that "all man have a mess at home or too lazy making their household"...
Srsly, this is a stereotype as well, but no man is complaing.
For some men it's true, for others it's not.
I always say Snowwhite as a really nice person helping poor small men.
You. Are. So. Right. I have a personal story when it comes to the portrayal of the female princess body.
So, in 8th grade, our school does a musical, and around the last day of 7th grade, our drama teacher announced he was deciding between Aladdin and Mulan. Now, for some reason, I pictured us doing Aladdin. I thought about myself as jasmine, and I instantly thought about my figure. I thought maybe my chances would be lessened because I think of myself as chubby. That Disney portrayal made me
1) So, it's bad that Snow White decides to be happy while she cleans? Sure not everyone LIKES cleaning in particular, but isn't it a good quality to look on the brighter side of things? Would you rather her complain about life?
2) Jasmine was using what she's got to help Aladdin. It's like a partnership. As a female, we hold more cards then you'd think.
3) I hate the Gaston arguement... he wasn't the hero a he's BAD GUY! That song was to show how much of a douchebag he was.
nothing compared with the misogynist media sold on Amazon permitted by our Supreme Court and President Obama. Abort Supreme Court .. impeach Obama, man did not come from God man came from a bloody woman, you homosexuals
And GASTON. My heavens, when are you nit-picking extreame feminists going to realize that he was the VILLAN? his personality was designed so he would be hated by the audience. And finalll Mulan: Being tough in the army back then was synonymouse with SURVIVAL. If you were not strong and good with a weapon, you DIED. So shut the fuck up and enjoy the damned movie like everyone else.
The movie examples really pissed me off. I'ma woman and enjoy clean, so I OBVIOUSLY must have no self confidence! And OH, I chose a man who accepts all of me over a family who supressed my nature, so OBVIOUSLY I am totally dependant on my man. Third one: Disney was being historically correct there. In those days, women WERE quiet. He still loved her even after she started talking back. And I will have you know what being okay with you sexuality is not alwasy a bad thing. It saved her life.
Beauty and The Beast had a great message. The only thing I didn't like is that at the end Beast had to turn into the cliché handsome prince anyway. Why not live happily ever after with him looking beastly?
I don't understand the movie examples. About Snow White, you know she grew up cleaning already right? Did you ever think that, maybe, when she was cleaning the other house, for a WOMAN might I add, that in order to make her life better she would make up a song so she didn't go completely insane? Or Ariel. In the time frame of the movie, women did not speak up because it was not socially acceptable to. So, I'm assuming you want Disney to be "Kind" to women and not be historically correct?
I'm A Man an would like to combine the gender or meet in the midle I don't like the ideal of having to be A fat drunk with A job that I hate an A wife who is either A bitch or compleatly submissive to me.
parenting playes a HUGE role in all of this. When i was young there were no black princesses and I LOVED disney movies. Because my parents taught me what the POSATIVE messages of the movies were i never once saw myself as lesser than i am. My father would always tell me what a princess i was and im not a size 0 or have but length strait hair. and to be honest i still love disney movies now. u only take from them what u want, if thats the negative so b it :/
Though you made a few good points in this video, I have to disagree with the idea that all main male characters have a "alpha-male" mentallity. Gaston was the evil villan of B&B and was ment to seem like a jerk. Shang had a very kind heart and was so tough on his men because he didn't want them dead. Look at other Disney males, like Hercules, Aladen, and Tarzan. They're more like leaders than Alpha-males.
because he was singing about how great he was just made the audience dislike him
not to say he isn't a good character but he is the villain, disney just wanted to show a 'town hero' as the villain so we could see being the popular muscular good looking guy with no depth wasn't what we should aspire to as children
What do you remember about the female roles and Disney characters? Um...actually those weren't the things that stood out to me. I think you wasted a lot of time focusing on the wrong aspects of these films. If you're obsessing over someone else's appearance then that's kind of your own problem.
(CON…) They are different and have different traditional roles. It is like comparing apples to oranges, it cannot be done because they are different. How can I compare the salary of the CEO of Wal-Mart to the salary of a Neurosurgeon to see if each is making a fair wage, getting a fair shake?
Heavily gendered roles? What is your problem, the "heavily gendered roles" or the impossible idealistic standards? You make it seem it is the later, and yet you pronounce the former. If you have a problem with "gender roles" in general then I would ask you why? Are not men and women different? And, if you say because society has been unfair I ask you how can you compare? (CON…)
When i was little I never bothered too much with the bodies of the princesses, except when I wanted to dress as princess jasmine and realized that I wasn't thin enough to look pretty in her outfit. What confused me more as a child was the fact that every girl found love, even the ones that weren't looking for it. In my opinion, the implication that a woman needs a man to be happy is more harmful and lasting than the implication that she needs to be perfect.
Gaston was the bad guy. He was supposed to be stereotypically handsome and arrogant to show that it's what's on the inside that matters or some bullshit like that
The Little Mermaid is a Faustian, make a deal with the devil-type story, which her purpose isn't entirely to get her prince, she has the admirable tenacity to be an explorer. She's tired of the old ways of her society, she wants to "know what the people know" and "be a part of that world" I remember watching it when I was little and having invigorating conversations like... "mmmm.. nah I don't think I'd sell out like she did!"
Mulan - my favorite! It takes place in Ancient China.. of course there will be sexism. But a woman is the classic hero! Gaston is the VILLAIN portrayed as a gross fuckin shitbag who hunts animals and wrestles with his alcoholic friends like beasts while Belle, the intellectual book-reader falls in love with the sensitive soul residing in the ugly beast on the mountain.
I won't deny the sexism in these movies but that's because they're based on folk tales hundreds of years old.. They're in no way harmful to children or give any negative influence. Reports like these are mostly one-sided.
EXCEPT maybe Snow White only due to the senselessness of it all. I can't stand this movie! She's a dimwit with animal friends who prances around looking for peoples' houses to clean while ultimately looking for her "Handsome Prince" who will save her with a kiss!
And exactly with the mulan part, the song means the meaning, "Ill make a man out of you." AND NOTCIE THAT THEY ALL DIDNT HAVE BULGING MUSCLES OR SHAPE FACE FEAUTURES AFTER THAT WHOLE SONG! He was just singing about how to be a good man, a soldier and protecter, i have no clue who doesnt want to be that. A good man. Isnt that what every man wants to be? So I think you should read the fine print some more my friend and go towards the meaning.
In the Aladdin part. Jafar was a pervert, how else was Jasmine supposed to attract him? By singing a song? It just goes to show that a women will do anything to protect the person she loves. And as for masculinity, Aladdin doesn't have BULGING muscles or sharp facial featues, hes gangly and skinny, but he still wins. And the beauty and the beast part, Gaston was self centured and a monster, it shows in the end you have to be like beast to be a real man, while gaston died a monster
Sleeping beauty? She cleaned the house while the dwarfs went to work in the mines. Fine make a movie where she is digging dirt and rock.
Women using their gender is life. How do you think single women get men to work on their houses?
Women are physically different, should we ignore this? Women's brains are wired differently. Should we ignore what mankind has known since creation, and science has proved. Women and men are who they are for a reason, they complete each other.
Mulan is about a girl who disobeys her family by running away to join the Chinese army pretending to be a man, and ends up showing everyone that she is just as capable as any of the male soldiers. What in the world is heavily gendered about that?
Well how fun would it be to watch snow white nagging and bitching through the whole movie while she was cleaning?
And snow white is still a fucking tresspasser and a squatter, the least she could do is clean while the dwarfs works 14 hours in the mines and gets lung cancer from all the stone dust.
@kattwoman17 the fact that she has to disobey her family and disquise herself as a man in the first place. If it wasn't heavily gendered, she'd be able to join the army whether or not she is disquised as a guy.
@whiskerplot the story of mulan is set in ancient china, disney was being historicaly correct, women were not allowed in the army at the time the movie was set in. people need calm down and stop over reacting.
@kattwoman17 Although she is shown as a strong female character that wins the war in the end she goes back home to the same expectations she left for. This meant that she won the whole war for nothing. This suggests that no matter how strong a woman may be she is still expected to act like the stereotypical hyperfeminine woman society has sketched into our minds through movies some of us watched throughout childhood.
@resurectdawn People get married, settle down & have babies. Some just settle down & have babies. This is the truth for most of humanity. Of course Mulan was going to eventually settle down. They were entering peace time. Why would anyone want to go on spending their whole life fighting if it was avoidable. When she did settle down though, it was on her terms. Now, to quote Spartacus, "Anyone can learn to fight. There's a time for fighting, and there's a time for singing. Now, teach us to sing."
@kattwoman17 The idea that it'd be surprising for a woman to do that in the first place, maybe? Or maybe the stereotype falls on the men this time, that they're all silly brutes who just want to get laid. (Which is not true.) Mulan is an exception I think, though, and there are some wonderful exceptions... but the older Disney movies do rely heavily on gender stereotypes.
I don't understand the thing about Snow White. That story wasn't even written by Disney -- it's an ancient folklore from Germany. Further, women in those times actually did cook and clean, so I see nothing wrong there either. I suppose you'd prefer historical inaccuries.
alladin- shes acting to distract jafar while alladin grabs the lamp! its not sexism! also,these are childrens movies,theyre not exactly gunna go to the sexism rap! theyre happy childrens stories!
@favm360 And do nooot blame 3 year olds wanting to be pretty on Disney. There is alot more at work to that. There are MILLIONS of everyday things that affect female beauty and NONE of them include inner beauty. There are just soo many cracks in your story it's rediculous.
If they make a character that's too unique no one will relate and no one will make an emotional connection with the movie. PLUS dude, you have to remember these are older movies...times have changed. Look at the movie Tangled that came out. Much more fitted for out time. The way Snow White was betrayed was the way my grandmother acted. Happy to clean and cook and I believe that movie came out around the time my grandmother was little. So like I said, it goes with the times. Just relax.
Dude, theres nothing wrong with Disney movies. I and everyone I know grew up with them and none of my girl friends want to stay home, cook, clean and what not. Not all the guys are obsessed with looks. The reason you have characters like that in movies is cause it's a movie "formula". And when a character is made, they are generally made as a stereotype because stereotypes rule majority. And because of that, they are more relate-able.
@DarkndHeartz LOL really? Disney women have no minds or sense of self0-sufficiency. They need a man. Ariel gave up her voice for a man, hence women must be submissive and go along. Beautiful means having long hair, an unrealistic figure, young, and average height. If you are fat, ugly, short, tall, and old then you must be evil. You should read "Cinderella ate my daughter", I used to think it was bs. But it is true. Disney is sexist. Why are 3 years old so concerned about being pretty? Disney.
@favm360 Lol hoooold on there buddy. First of all, Disney doesn't depict women as if the NEED a man. They are basing the characters off of basic HUMAN emotion. There is not ONE girl who would NOT give up her voice for that one special person in there life that they love. Everyone in the world would do just about anything for the love of their life. And I'll give you that they do make villians really tall and skinny or really short and fat. But there are also loveable characters like that too.
@favm360 In hercules theres the Gospel girls, one of them his short and over weight but she's the most charasmatic one out of all of them. There's also the sultan from aladdin, he's short and round but so adorable.Plus, cinderella for the majority of the movie had short hair, snow white had short hair, Mulan cuts her hair short, Belle's hair wasn't long. I'll give it to you that OOOLD disney films were a bit stereotypical and sexist, BUT don't make it out that every Disney film is horrible.
@favm360 And I said this in my first comment, they aim for the MAJORITY of the population. Average is majority, So they have average hair, average age (which ranges from pre-teen to late 20's maybe 30's), average height. Figures aren't realistic, that's true, but it's a cartoon, it's not made to be 100% realistic. Did you not see Tarzan? His hands and feet were huge with the chin the size of a football. Either way, Disney characters are made to be looked up to.
@favm360 Why would they put an over weight person? No one WANTS to be over weight and no parent wants their child to be over weight. I'm not saying about being ugly, but no one wants their kid to be unhealthy and from what I understand being fat is another way of being unhealthy. And not all characters that were "ugly" were bad guys Quasi Moto was disfigured but was the main character.
@favm360 I don't need a college course in order to tell you exactly what I see. It's not my fault you had to take some classes and make simple movies like this all complicated. You belong right up there with the fools that keep saying that Disney has subliminal sex messages. Honestly, why do people like you have to ANALYZE everything? It ruins it for everyone else.
@favm360 Oh and also, just because someone takes a college class doesn't mean that they are automatically smarter than EVERYONE else. Anyone with common sense could tell you that.
@DarkndHeartz Hence why many people go to college and are idiots. I know that. But having a 4.0, being in the honors society, and going to Sarah Lawrance, does say that I'm smarter than you. End of the argument you are like 12. You'll understand when you are older.
@favm360 Even with a 4.0, with honors and what not still doesn't mean you're smarter than ANYONE buddy. It just definitely means you pay attention in class and probably have a good memory. And for your information I'm not 12. I'm 21. It's cute how you try and find tiny ways to belittle my intelligence. Next you'll probably say something in the realms of how i'm dumb-witted for my age and so on. Which I really don't care how dumb you think I am or how smart you feel you are.
@favm360 End of the argument is right. My point & opinion being; stop being an asshole and stop blaming movies like Disney for the insecurities of people.I've said it before, there is WAY more to that than just movies. And if you're going to make a video like this one stating this topic YOU SHOULD COVER IT ALL. Don't make one piece of media to blame.
you do realize that most of these cartoons are older, when women's roles were as they are portrayed in disney's movies. The Cult of Domesticity was extremely prominent in these time periods and women were mainly house-keepers and home-makers. It's not sexist, its just how life was when they were created. Movies today are exactly the same way. It just seems natural because thats how you experience life today.
Then, dont atack Disney... atack the writers who wrote those books because YES, several mopvies of Disney are based in books where the descriptiopn of the characters dont differ too much of what u see on screen. bUT SORRY i FORGOT THAT FAGGOTS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO BUT POST STUPID VIDEOS DONT READ.
Um Mulan is the hero and she's a girl....they have made some disney characters "normal sized".....i think people need to stop taking all of this so seriously...stop getting affended by nothing...here's an example of not getting affended: Disney made Lilo (in Lilo and Stich) a fat Hawaiian girl but no one in Hawaii is mad for steryotyping us.....jeese, give Disney a break
if you have taken any form of psychology you know that beauty is a natural want, and that you usually tend to fall for someone ranking close to you in appearance. Yes, Disney woman are exaggereated, but so are a lot of things in the world today. many of these stories are hundreds of years old "Grimms fairytales, Greek Mythology, French fairytales etc..." unless you feel like completely re-writing history there is not much to be done.
Meg was pretty much a seductris by trade, she was supposed to be suggestive. And what about Rapunzel's hair at the end of the movie? How was that long flowing locks? Gaston was a VILLAIN you were supposed to hate him, and most of the Disney Prince's DONT have bulging muscle (i.e. Aladdin, Flynn Rider...)
LOL You seem to have no sense of irony at all. The Gaston scene is pure irony. So is Ursula's statement that "only she who holds her tongue gets a man". Disney is not advocating these things, they are ridiculing them! Even the Mulan scene is highly ironic, making a man out of a woman! "Did they send me daughters, when I asked for sons?" Indeed they did! And they can do the job as well.
Well, I kind of agree. I think disney should make at least ONE movie where the girl is either the savior instead of the macho man or have the girl more, well, "normal" sized, meaning not a 00 with big boobs. I love the classic disney movies though and I wouldn't change them at all!
I actually understand where this guy is going with the video, if you think a bit about it-partly its true. But also consider this- would you put an unhealthy-looking person, with a bad attitude to be the hero that children should look up to? Dont forget about Quasimodo, he is a freak but also the main character. Most of Disney's movies are based on fairy tales and as we all know- the fairy tales are about the handsome prince and the beautiful princess. Just enjoy the movie, don't overanalyse it.
@Andragorans Nobody was talking about an unhealthy looking person, for all we know these princesses could be unhealthy as in too skinny. We are talking about normal, average people.
I get your point about not wanting to overanalyse and take away from the movies you have grown up with. But the point is simply that these type of images are everyone and they are creating the cultural atmosphere we live in. It does not represent reality and it has negative effects. I think that weighs a little more.
@jerona Since when these movies got a negative effect on society? Since the creation of youtube? Before no one gave a damn if Gaston is a bodybuilder or Sleeping Beauty is a fashion model. And this thing is not suppose to represent reality - "fairy tale", its suppose to represent a fantasy world where everything is perfect and everyone is happy, where good beats evil. I do see that they are trying to put some old-fashioned dogmas like the woman's place is in the kitchen but look when its made.
@Andragorans No not since the creation YouTube. Probably in the '70s when people started to be more interested in the reception and influence of media.
Maybe it's not supposed to represent reality but even fairytales were influenced by the main ideas of a society at that point. Just like the stories influence us.
You make a good point about the time snow white came out. And I'm not seeking out Disney. I think they have done a good job in later movies. But overall in media this is a problem.
1. The Snow White one, of course she's happy to clean up a house, they're some strange women out trying to kill her, and the dwarfs were nice enough to let her stay there, in exchange for a clean house.
2.With Jasmin and Jafar; You say that Jasim uses her 'sexual charm' well ok, maybe she did, but when you're watching this, you're probably only a little kid and of course you don't know what sex is! so that's why it's not a promblem
Maybe children are simply unaware of stuff like sex (actually, I think they are though) but they are still imprinted with these behaviors. Why do you think that our cultural attitudes towards sex are so messed up as adults?
Really, it's not about sexism or racism, it's about banality. These movies indoctrinate children with worse than hate, they indoctrinate them with mediocrity.
Disney doesn't hypergenderize their characters because they're trying to make children be those hypergenderized versions. They hypergenderize the characters because children both want and need clear representations of gender.
We're talking about a group of people who genuinely believe that if you put a dress on a boy, he becomes female.
Child psychology is actually more interesting than this video would make it out to be.
Disney has many gender stereotypes all right, but you chose the worst examples! Beauty and the Beast is about the importance of the inside over looks, and Mulan is all about fighting gender stereotypes
It is sad how few people actually understand this subject. The point of this video is to demonstrate how even 'safe' media like Disney is selling predefined gender roles to us. The responses to this video demonstrate how well they are doing. The message gets lodged so deep in our brains that we cannot even acknowledge that they are there. We simply respond as programmed. And almost all of us think that the programming is our own opinion. It is very difficult to think outside the program.
Can I just point out that Gaston wasn't the hero of Beauty and the Beast? He played the role of the pushy egotistical man that no woman wants! Thus Belle fell in love with a long-haired effeminate man who learned to be caring and not selfish. Also kissing up to Jafar in Alladin was something everyone was disgusted with. And in The Little Mermaid, it was obvious to me that the witch was talking about wrong stereotypes that aren't really true in human relations to get her evil way. I could go on..
The main problem that this video has is that all the movies chosen undermine the argument. Snow White was earliest Disney movie ever made. Of course it's like that. And Gaston is the bad guy, and Mulan is all about defying gender roles. The song in The Little Mermaid is a parody of that kind of thinking. And with Aladdin, it’s called strategy; that bit is used a lot.
@ASarneck108 I am not saying that this applies to every Disney movie or character. Quasimodo is an exception. I disagree that the movies in the video undermine the argument. Snow White's happiness to do housework was not true of women even then,though it may have been expected of women, that does not make it right. Gaston is the bad guy, but because of his looks he expects everyone to love him, even when they obviously don't, this does not change throughout the movie.
@AliB610 Quasimodo isn't just an exception, he's the star of the movie. The whole point of the movie is getting past appearances, like Beauty and the Beast; the whole point of Mulan is getting past gender roles. Gaston is a parody, as is Ursula and her song. I agree that some appearances of men and women are unrealistic, but they aren't the basis of the film's messages. Most of this is parodies taken at face value.
@ASarneck108 As for Aladdin, I don't think that just because it is used often in other movies, it is acceptable for them to use in this movie. I think that the fact that these ideas are so heavily represented in Disney movies, that are made for kids, can have a tendency to give children the wrong ideas.
@AliB610 I just don't think this tactic is as harmful as it's cut out to be. I will say that I do see the tactic used by women more in media, though. There is an overrepresentation in that case.
@ASarneck108 I do think that this tactic is definitely overrepresented in the media, and I do think it can be harmful. Obviously not all Disney movies are going to be harmful to kids, and some do have a good message. I just feel that Disney should be more aware of how these stereotypes that are portraying could affect the kids they are targeting as their audience.
@AliB610 Well Disney movies have to view as a whole though. One movie can't just be an exception. All the movies are important to the Disney mythos, within there own context. Disney has become more modern with some of its cartoons actually. Look at Kim Possible, which used to be on the Disney Channel, which had a female protagonist with a male sidekick.
@ASarneck108 I don't think you need to view all Disney movies as a whole. They are all completely different movies with different story lines and messages. Just because they are all made by the same company does not mean they all need to be viewed as one whole. Do you see all movies made by Universal studios to be parts of one whole? Not all children see all Disney movies, so they are not all seeing the overall message you are referring to.
@ASarneck108 I do agree with you that Kim Possible is a progressive cartoon when it comes to gender roles. I am glad to see Disney breaking some gender stereotypes with that cartoon.
The problem with this video is that all of it's "evidence" is either take so far out of context that you can make any claim about it or is trying to apply modern sentiments to what was acceptable in the past.
You can't just take one example for whatever movie best suits your argument, and apply it as a general trend.
To all who claim the good guys are always attractive and the bad guys are always ugly: Gaston is the perfect example of an attractive villain, you derned fools!
@bluago You are right, not all villains are ugly, but the majority of them are. My point still stands. I think it teaches kids that to be a good person you must be attractive.
@AliB610 However, if you look at Gustan in Beauty and the Beast, it shown that his outward appearance doesnt make up for his repulsive behavior. He is basically the opposite of the Beast, whose personality ultimately wins Belle over. Remember, Gustan is the villain.
The looks of the princes and princesses in Disney movies, teach kids that you nee to look a certain way. All of the "good guys" are always attractive while the bad guys are always unattractive. The princesses always begin the movies poor or in need of saving by their prince. All of the princesses seem to need their prince in order to be happy. The Little Mermaid in particular, teaches girls that it is OK to make major sacrifices and change who you are to be with a man you barley know.
You are all saying that we all would perfer someone beautiful to someone ugly. No is denying that. The question is why it is like that. Why can't Disney movies be about normal looking people, even if they are cartoons? These movies only give the message that good things only happen to pretty people. Another thing to think about is that almost always the "evil" people in children's movies are the ugly ones.
This is the classic case of a person omitting crucial data to prove a point. Don't be swayed. Notice that Gastone-doesn't get the girl, the beast does. And the princess in Aladdin was being attempting to be manipulated in that clip by the antagonists to try and give up her voice.
Yur a TURD
pfgum2 2 weeks ago
Attraction, strength, are these things not supposed to be empowering? Of course, none of this is as important as what lies in a persons heart. That should always be the goal. But is it really that terrible to also desire (if possible) a pleasing face, a strong back, and the wisdom of Solomen to boot? These atributes are tools. The more the better. And then we must have the knowledge and strength of character to weild our tools properly.
UrbanFarmboy 3 weeks ago
This is the most intellectually diminished way to examine gender in media that I've ever seen. Let me guess, you're a first year in college and took a general anthropology course? I hope that's the case, because if you're anything else then this is even more pathetic than I thought.
Sei1863 4 weeks ago
I don't see the point of criticizing a movie made in the 1930s of gender stereotyping. That's their society back then! If you look at the evolution of Disney animations, you'd be able to see breakthroughs in different stages, like girls can independent and can fight(Mulan, Rapunzel), handsome guys can be assholes(Gaston) or lazy people(Naveen). Disney already has colored people starring in its animations, so who knows? Maybe geeks and fat girls would star in Disney's next fabulous animation~
freyja4real 1 month ago 2
I think it's funny how everyone wants to believe Disney are flawless, innocent, victims therefore perfect and should be free from criticism. They are a corporation, they want to make money and they write these things on purpose, nothing happens accidentally. This isn't a criticism of how good or bad the films are, they are obviously good but they endlessly churn out stereotype after stereotype and they don't tend to write strong characters.
Pixielly 1 month ago
Snow white is just being optimistic as she works. It's better than stomping around and growling. Some people like cleaning. I do. I listen to music while I clean. 2. Ariel followed her dream, and she didn't HAVE to stay with her family. Some people move far away from their parents with a boy. Plus, in the movies, she still visits her father. The witch is evil so "she who holds her tongue gets a man" is obviously her lying. 3. Jasmine was protecting Alladin. I'd do the same if it was one of the
only1one1me 1 month ago
4:24 Im 19 but I still remember, thats not an show for 7 years old believe me
princessofDBZ 1 month ago
@princessofDBZ You were a seriously lame 7 year old then.
Sei1863 4 weeks ago
from wich disney movie is the beginning music?
princessofDBZ 1 month ago
like you all have been saying, gaston was an ass. it's quite possible i have a negative attitude towards super burly men because of that character!
juliaw4 1 month ago
no no no...in some movies females were the lead...and controlled the movie...like Mulan....Cinderella, etc....Now I think its rather unfair what you are saying...for example Captain Shang was "manly", yet a pretty girl like Mulan was technically more "manly"...she was the big hero...cinderella showed "guts" even though there was a male character...cinderella was obviously the champion of the film.
wingwaabuddha 1 month ago
1:So what if she's positive? She never says it's her duty as a woman!
2: Ariel wanted to go to the surface before she met Eric! She even says in part of your world "What would I give if I could live out of these waters" She made sacrafices for her dream.
3: She KNEW he was just after her status and beauty, she did this for a man who loves her beyond that.
4: The towns people were idiots. So, if your all looks, idiots will like you.
5: The message is that girls can do whatever boys can do!
MsLavenderdolphin 1 month ago 2
The thing you don't get that every animation must follow the five rules of anime. That includes movie and cartoon. You need six spots.
1 the leading male or female. In Aldian Aldain was the main character. And in Mulan she was the leading character.
2 main supporting character. Jasmaine for aldain. And who ever was the leader of the army in Mulan.
3 main villain: ursal in the little mermaid, Jaffar in Aldian.
4 Comic Relief Abu for Aldian, the Dragon for Mulan, and subastin for little merma
eddog6666 1 month ago
With all respect, Ursula is a saleswoman and a witch. She was trying to persuade Ariel into giving up her voice and had to come up with some "legitimate" reasons to do so. Besides, it's not like Ariel had much time to figure it out for herself what guys liked. . : /
LabyrinthZonesurf 1 month ago
The shape of the character is in reference to the style the cartoon is drawn in, is my opinion.
eppoif1 2 months ago
I don't think they're forced upon us. I just think its how it always has been. I'm not saying its right, but you shouldnt judge gender roles in society. They had and have a place. Some of them are obviously extreme. But its good that were talking about this.
bye0bye0birdy 2 months ago
THE WHOLE POINT IN BEAUTY AND THE BEST IS THAT ANYONE CAN LOVE YOU KNOW MATTER HOW YOU LOOK! You clearly took the most stereotypical parts and put them together.Not to mention the time in which these movies were made was a time when women did stay home. Most of the girls in Disney played a significant role that saved lives: Pocahontas, Jasmine, Belle, the mother on dumbo, the mom on lion king, Jane ( who was the smarter one), and SEVERAL MORE! SO GIVE ME A BREAK! Like if your a disney fan! YEAH
edinahornettesfan 2 months ago 3
Umm what. Yeah there are gender roles- but there are muscled men and girls who clean. Are you now condemning people who want to make the most out of doing housework. I sing when I do the dishes. Normal people. Yeah there could be more variety but how about we just make everything unisex eh
ArtemisMoon12 2 months ago 2
first of all i don't find this heavenly gendered at all. snow white being the good motherly woman she is she decided to clean the house because lets face it a house full of men who work the mines all day really aren't going to want to come home and clean anyway. the rest of your so called examples really don't make since. "why are we forcing these roles on our children?" pfft sorry but i don't want homosexual kids. and you wonder why chivalry is dead, news flash you equality fanatics killed it!
devinsfetish2 2 months ago
Yeah, yeah, Heavily masculine and violent with bulging muscles, that explains the hunchback of Notre dame. Little freaking guy with a hunchback and not much muscles to them. And I'm sure scrawny little aladdin fit that bill quite nicely as well.
UltimateIfrit963 3 months ago
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dagnytheartist 3 months ago
Well, to me Shang is the captain of the army and thus it is his job to make a man out of them so that shouldn't count.
SOSSonicfan 3 months ago 11
Gasp....you mean there's a difference between men and women? *slaps forehead* Imagine that.
indyracingnut 3 months ago
the beast doesn't fit the male role either and even when he changes at the end, he looks pretty average to me, plus you only see the human form for like four minutes then the movie ends, the point is that belle fell in love with him even when he looked like a beast, and she doesn't even recognize him when he changes at first
OldSemeofOz 3 months ago
well, kwazimodo from the hunchback of notre dame doesn't fit the typical male role and he is one of the most likable of all the disney men, he is also a main character where as most of the princes have less sceen time then many of the side characters,
OldSemeofOz 3 months ago
I think if parents spent more time rearing their children and less time over-analyzing children's cartoons we would all be better off.
123PSI 3 months ago
What's with all these butthurts?
I'm sure most of you are LGBTA...
So why are you disagreeing with something the gay movement ALSO rejects?
STFU and LEARN D:<
LongLiveLink3 3 months ago
@LongLiveLink3 Part of the GLBT community myself... and I generally agree that Disney is sexist. But what do people expect? If they want something LESS sexist, they need to find it or make it, if it doesn't exist. Or wait until a child is older, then let them watch the movies and explain both the good parts and the not-so-good parts. Children shouldn't be plopped in front of a TV so young anyhow.
TheSatanicPanda 3 months ago
I think people look far to into the gender roles of disney.
The example of snow white:
Should we teach children to act unhappy and angry when cleaning? To make is just another chore or show them that you can have fun while you are doing it. Yes she might be a woman but that doesn't mean that they are saying that only women work. It's just a natural thing for women. How many bachelor's keep their houses clean and organized? Now apply that to seven bachelors living in the middle of a forest mine.
qutieyf07 4 months ago
@qutieyf07 As for Ariel. She is talking to the VILLAIN here! Not only is she trying to trick Arial into getting out of the way and gaining the Trident. Once on the surface the Prince tries to get her to talk wanting to get to know her. He ends up with THE VILLAIN WHO CAN TALK because she tricks him. All he wants it to have Ariel as she is. Talking singing Ariel.
qutieyf07 4 months ago
@qutieyf07 As for Jasmine and Jafar. Jafar is trying desperately to get Jasmine as his queen though she refuses because she is in love with Aladdin. Aladdin shows up and she knows the only way to distract Jafar, who might I ad is in the process of trying to force Genie to use his magic powers to make her love him, by acting as if the Genie did so Aladdin can save her.
qutieyf07 4 months ago
@qutieyf07
Gason goes without mention because again. He is the villian of the entire movie showing how not to act and ends up being so selfish and self centered that he gets thrown off of the roof of the castle to his death. Yea, kids wanna be like Gaston alright. no I'm pretty sure they want to be like the beast although he was scary and unappealing belle got to know him and fell in love with him.
qutieyf07 4 months ago
@qutieyf07 And as for Mulan she is a WOMAN in a MANS army in CHINA! She is part of a new group of recruits who can't do a thing related to the army. Shang is mearly trying to whip them into shape, turn boys into men and make them good enough to save the empire. Mulan goes on to defeat the Hun's and save China all while being a girl disguised as a man. Once found out she continues to try to save china. In the end the emperor bows to her.
qutieyf07 4 months ago
Feminazis will always see sexism everywhere. They're paranoid like that.
swevixeh1 4 months ago
@swevixeh1 Mulan was newer and really shouldn't be listed...the "majority" of Disney films are sexist though...but during the era the "original" stories were written, society was sexist....and well, times changed...but the movies still reflect those days...Gender roles were around before Disney, letting kids watch these movies will not over ride the effect of their society...Sexism is everywhere but as a man you underest. its affect on girls and female lives around the world. Try being perfect
kanohane 4 months ago
@kanohane "Try being perfect". Yeah, that's kind of like asking me to be Tyler Durden from fight club: Strong, intelligent, handsome and successful in general. The reason I'm not trying to be like him is that it's impossible: It's nothing but fiction. Nobody can be perfect and only the stupid turn themselves into slaves of other people's shallow opinions, trying their best to please everyone around them rather than truly living.
No, I would never expect anyone to be perfect.
swevixeh1 4 months ago
@swevixeh1 you say that..but you still chase after the pretty girls and ignore the ugly ones...hypocrite...
kanohane 4 months ago
@kanohane Really? How would you know that? Have we met? Do you even know who I am? no. You're making assumptions about me based on other people.
swevixeh1 4 months ago
@swevixeh1 Because its obvious...don't even deny it. That's what boys learn through society from the day they're born. While girls learn that they have to live up to be the impossible or either be rejected.
kanohane 4 months ago
@kanohane Because its obvious...don't even deny it. That's what boys learn through society from the day they're born. While girls learn that they have to live up to be the impossible or either be rejected.
kanohane 4 months ago
oh please all stories a bases on the hero mythos this is just make the hero female. the problem is it's all about money.disney movies just suck because they are no longer an artful. And the people who own disney are dumb and talentless Greedy holes. that just want to reap money from movie merchandising focusing on girls as their parents statistically buy more of that junk for them..
knightmonx2 4 months ago
Hercules wasn't 'violent', and only used his strength to help people.
Gaston was a superficial douchebag and not portrayed as a positive role model.
Snow White was enslaved by her stepmother so housework was all she had in life.
Ursula was a VILLAIN who lied to Ariel, whose decision to give up everything for a guy was a MISTAKE.
Jasmine, to be fair could hardly have overpowered Jafar.
'Make a Man Out of You' was ironic as Mulan is shown to be the equal of her male counterparts.
GlasgowPhilosipher 4 months ago 41
@GlasgowPhilosipher HA! If Jasmine could've "overpowered Jafar", then why DIDN'T she? Why'd she resort to sexual seduction?
LongLiveLink3 3 months ago 2
@LongLiveLink3 he said that she could have HARDLY overpowered jafar....as in she couldnt/......did you actually read the comment?
Zander2566 3 months ago
@GlasgowPhilosipher Cinderella, not Snow White :P
geragna 3 months ago
@geragna Both actually, at least in the Disney versions.
GlasgowPhilosipher 3 months ago
@GlasgowPhilosipher I agree with a lot of what you said. However, I think what this person was trying to say was slighly different. Hercules WAS a protagonist and non-violent, true. But this is an example of how young boys are taught how to be, and if they are not physically powerful, they won't amount to anything. Gaston was the bad guy. But he was also the man who had all the friends and got the girls. I think the older Disney movies had a lot more blatant sexism.
manysharptongues 2 months ago
@GlasgowPhilosipher Cinderella being a servan wasn't sexist in itself, but I think the overall message of the film was. If you are beautiful, that alone will solve your problems; but not based on anything you do yourself. You need someone to dress you up and then a male character to come and save you. I remember friends of mine feeling like they would never amount to anything because they were not pretty. I like most of your points, however.
manysharptongues 2 months ago
@GlasgowPhilosipher If Hercules isnt violent, then how do you call act of chopping of heads and slicing monsters? He is justified by doing good for others, but it is the FACT the he was a killer. Disney has changed many of original fairy tales, and if you look closer, Snow White is young heroine who in original tale is not forced to do anything. Similarly Ursula in original tale was acting as someone to help Ariel get transformed and Disney changed her to evil witch- a lie.
BasiaOwczarek 3 weeks ago
@GlasgowPhilosipher also, Ariel in original tale gives up her voice for totally different reason, and Disney distorted it. And Mulan song might be ironical, but the whole film shows how much women have to do and still they are treated with disrespect. Example- how does grandma react after Mulan comes home? She sais she would prefer if girl brought back a man , not a sword!! Disney clearly enforces bad gender stereotypes and women are being put down in most of the films!
BasiaOwczarek 3 weeks ago
@BasiaOwczarek Most of the films are based on old fairy tales written in times when those kind of gender roles were still culturally relevant, but I'm just sick of this whole debate.
If people don't want their kids to learn bad morals, gender stereotpes or whatever, they should monitor what their kids are watching and talk to them to build an understanding of what they take from it, rather than just blaming the films and reading stuff into it that isn't there.
(not getting at you personally btw)
GlasgowPhilosipher 3 weeks ago
@GlasgowPhilosipher I totally understand your point, but I believe that videos/debates like this are brought to the audience's eye only to open eyes to those who do not get these subtle messages some cartoons may send. Of course it is up to parents to control what their kids are watching and educate them, but some parents simply cannot see the danger themselves. I am big fan of Disney animations mainly to the aesthetics they present. But fairy tales have been adapted in anti-feministic way.
BasiaOwczarek 2 weeks ago
Are you suggesting I could look like prince charming. I can tell without a doubt I have a great body.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
iMaDeMoN2012 4 months ago
Snow White is like a princess version of betty boop lol
vrttlesn 4 months ago
Snow White is not cleaning because she's required to.
Ariel is 16 and impulsive, and her actions have negative consequences.
I don't even get how the Aladdin thing is sexist.
Gaston is not a positive character, he's the bad guy. I'm surprised by how many people can't seem to figure that out.
Calling Mulan sexist is like calling Guess Who's Coming to Dinner racist.
In closing, you're an idiot.
gofindyourownawesome 5 months ago
People who make these vids don't want boys to become men. Go fuck yourself.
MrBastilleDay 5 months ago
back then it was considerd manly to whisle while u work,so it was also considerd rude to whisle if your a girl WTF
CrazyClara101 5 months ago
She whistles because shel likes to HELP!
And I haven't seen a man who's complaining about this movie, because it could transfer that "all man have a mess at home or too lazy making their household"...
Srsly, this is a stereotype as well, but no man is complaing.
For some men it's true, for others it's not.
I always say Snowwhite as a really nice person helping poor small men.
I never took that into a stereotype.
wieserd 5 months ago
You. Are. So. Right. I have a personal story when it comes to the portrayal of the female princess body.
So, in 8th grade, our school does a musical, and around the last day of 7th grade, our drama teacher announced he was deciding between Aladdin and Mulan. Now, for some reason, I pictured us doing Aladdin. I thought about myself as jasmine, and I instantly thought about my figure. I thought maybe my chances would be lessened because I think of myself as chubby. That Disney portrayal made me
VivaSaysHi 6 months ago
three things:
1) So, it's bad that Snow White decides to be happy while she cleans? Sure not everyone LIKES cleaning in particular, but isn't it a good quality to look on the brighter side of things? Would you rather her complain about life?
2) Jasmine was using what she's got to help Aladdin. It's like a partnership. As a female, we hold more cards then you'd think.
3) I hate the Gaston arguement... he wasn't the hero a he's BAD GUY! That song was to show how much of a douchebag he was.
gypsyzombieninja 6 months ago
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gypsyzombieninja 6 months ago
nothing compared with the misogynist media sold on Amazon permitted by our Supreme Court and President Obama. Abort Supreme Court .. impeach Obama, man did not come from God man came from a bloody woman, you homosexuals
TheAnnafisher 6 months ago
And GASTON. My heavens, when are you nit-picking extreame feminists going to realize that he was the VILLAN? his personality was designed so he would be hated by the audience. And finalll Mulan: Being tough in the army back then was synonymouse with SURVIVAL. If you were not strong and good with a weapon, you DIED. So shut the fuck up and enjoy the damned movie like everyone else.
JohariTheCrazy 6 months ago 2
The movie examples really pissed me off. I'ma woman and enjoy clean, so I OBVIOUSLY must have no self confidence! And OH, I chose a man who accepts all of me over a family who supressed my nature, so OBVIOUSLY I am totally dependant on my man. Third one: Disney was being historically correct there. In those days, women WERE quiet. He still loved her even after she started talking back. And I will have you know what being okay with you sexuality is not alwasy a bad thing. It saved her life.
JohariTheCrazy 6 months ago
Wow you must have no life if you honestly think Disney is corrupting children's minds...
lifesAdancex3 6 months ago
Beauty and The Beast had a great message. The only thing I didn't like is that at the end Beast had to turn into the cliché handsome prince anyway. Why not live happily ever after with him looking beastly?
sumguy789654 6 months ago
@sumguy789654 Beauty and the Beast is the story of a girl with Stockholm Syndrome.
FuneralPartyAudio 6 months ago 2
I don't understand the movie examples. About Snow White, you know she grew up cleaning already right? Did you ever think that, maybe, when she was cleaning the other house, for a WOMAN might I add, that in order to make her life better she would make up a song so she didn't go completely insane? Or Ariel. In the time frame of the movie, women did not speak up because it was not socially acceptable to. So, I'm assuming you want Disney to be "Kind" to women and not be historically correct?
halnum 6 months ago
I want to be A guy who can look how I want an A wife who is my equal who doe's what she want an doe's not treat me like shit.
NATIONALCOMMUNISM666 6 months ago
I'm A Man an would like to combine the gender or meet in the midle I don't like the ideal of having to be A fat drunk with A job that I hate an A wife who is either A bitch or compleatly submissive to me.
NATIONALCOMMUNISM666 6 months ago
parenting playes a HUGE role in all of this. When i was young there were no black princesses and I LOVED disney movies. Because my parents taught me what the POSATIVE messages of the movies were i never once saw myself as lesser than i am. My father would always tell me what a princess i was and im not a size 0 or have but length strait hair. and to be honest i still love disney movies now. u only take from them what u want, if thats the negative so b it :/
AtlanticaSecrets 6 months ago
Though you made a few good points in this video, I have to disagree with the idea that all main male characters have a "alpha-male" mentallity. Gaston was the evil villan of B&B and was ment to seem like a jerk. Shang had a very kind heart and was so tough on his men because he didn't want them dead. Look at other Disney males, like Hercules, Aladen, and Tarzan. They're more like leaders than Alpha-males.
IGuessIllCallUrBluff 6 months ago
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some could make sense I suppose
but when it comes to Gaston he was the bad guy
because he was singing about how great he was just made the audience dislike him
not to say he isn't a good character but he is the villain, disney just wanted to show a 'town hero' as the villain so we could see being the popular muscular good looking guy with no depth wasn't what we should aspire to as children
Decent vid though keep up the origional ideas :D
RosesnWater 6 months ago
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RosesnWater 6 months ago
What do you remember about the female roles and Disney characters? Um...actually those weren't the things that stood out to me. I think you wasted a lot of time focusing on the wrong aspects of these films. If you're obsessing over someone else's appearance then that's kind of your own problem.
terribithiajjls12 6 months ago
gaston's chin looks like balls.lol
FunnyLittleRedHead 6 months ago
(CON…) They are different and have different traditional roles. It is like comparing apples to oranges, it cannot be done because they are different. How can I compare the salary of the CEO of Wal-Mart to the salary of a Neurosurgeon to see if each is making a fair wage, getting a fair shake?
nicodemous52 6 months ago
Heavily gendered roles? What is your problem, the "heavily gendered roles" or the impossible idealistic standards? You make it seem it is the later, and yet you pronounce the former. If you have a problem with "gender roles" in general then I would ask you why? Are not men and women different? And, if you say because society has been unfair I ask you how can you compare? (CON…)
nicodemous52 6 months ago
When i was little I never bothered too much with the bodies of the princesses, except when I wanted to dress as princess jasmine and realized that I wasn't thin enough to look pretty in her outfit. What confused me more as a child was the fact that every girl found love, even the ones that weren't looking for it. In my opinion, the implication that a woman needs a man to be happy is more harmful and lasting than the implication that she needs to be perfect.
happykitty11 7 months ago
Gaston was the bad guy. He was supposed to be stereotypically handsome and arrogant to show that it's what's on the inside that matters or some bullshit like that
kuhj278 7 months ago
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The Little Mermaid is a Faustian, make a deal with the devil-type story, which her purpose isn't entirely to get her prince, she has the admirable tenacity to be an explorer. She's tired of the old ways of her society, she wants to "know what the people know" and "be a part of that world" I remember watching it when I was little and having invigorating conversations like... "mmmm.. nah I don't think I'd sell out like she did!"
delucksedition 7 months ago
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delucksedition 7 months ago
Mulan - my favorite! It takes place in Ancient China.. of course there will be sexism. But a woman is the classic hero! Gaston is the VILLAIN portrayed as a gross fuckin shitbag who hunts animals and wrestles with his alcoholic friends like beasts while Belle, the intellectual book-reader falls in love with the sensitive soul residing in the ugly beast on the mountain.
delucksedition 7 months ago
I won't deny the sexism in these movies but that's because they're based on folk tales hundreds of years old.. They're in no way harmful to children or give any negative influence. Reports like these are mostly one-sided.
EXCEPT maybe Snow White only due to the senselessness of it all. I can't stand this movie! She's a dimwit with animal friends who prances around looking for peoples' houses to clean while ultimately looking for her "Handsome Prince" who will save her with a kiss!
delucksedition 7 months ago
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delucksedition 7 months ago
Lol i ran out of letters(:
And exactly with the mulan part, the song means the meaning, "Ill make a man out of you." AND NOTCIE THAT THEY ALL DIDNT HAVE BULGING MUSCLES OR SHAPE FACE FEAUTURES AFTER THAT WHOLE SONG! He was just singing about how to be a good man, a soldier and protecter, i have no clue who doesnt want to be that. A good man. Isnt that what every man wants to be? So I think you should read the fine print some more my friend and go towards the meaning.
Dayna154 7 months ago
In the Aladdin part. Jafar was a pervert, how else was Jasmine supposed to attract him? By singing a song? It just goes to show that a women will do anything to protect the person she loves. And as for masculinity, Aladdin doesn't have BULGING muscles or sharp facial featues, hes gangly and skinny, but he still wins. And the beauty and the beast part, Gaston was self centured and a monster, it shows in the end you have to be like beast to be a real man, while gaston died a monster
Dayna154 7 months ago
Sleeping beauty? She cleaned the house while the dwarfs went to work in the mines. Fine make a movie where she is digging dirt and rock.
Women using their gender is life. How do you think single women get men to work on their houses?
Women are physically different, should we ignore this? Women's brains are wired differently. Should we ignore what mankind has known since creation, and science has proved. Women and men are who they are for a reason, they complete each other.
onemarktwoyou 7 months ago
Heavily....gendered ......roles?
Mulan is about a girl who disobeys her family by running away to join the Chinese army pretending to be a man, and ends up showing everyone that she is just as capable as any of the male soldiers. What in the world is heavily gendered about that?
kattwoman17 7 months ago 25
Well how fun would it be to watch snow white nagging and bitching through the whole movie while she was cleaning?
And snow white is still a fucking tresspasser and a squatter, the least she could do is clean while the dwarfs works 14 hours in the mines and gets lung cancer from all the stone dust.
Araben13 6 months ago 2
@kattwoman17 the fact that she has to disobey her family and disquise herself as a man in the first place. If it wasn't heavily gendered, she'd be able to join the army whether or not she is disquised as a guy.
whiskerplot 6 months ago
@whiskerplot the story of mulan is set in ancient china, disney was being historicaly correct, women were not allowed in the army at the time the movie was set in. people need calm down and stop over reacting.
awesomegeek332 5 months ago
@kattwoman17 Although she is shown as a strong female character that wins the war in the end she goes back home to the same expectations she left for. This meant that she won the whole war for nothing. This suggests that no matter how strong a woman may be she is still expected to act like the stereotypical hyperfeminine woman society has sketched into our minds through movies some of us watched throughout childhood.
resurectdawn 3 months ago
@resurectdawn People get married, settle down & have babies. Some just settle down & have babies. This is the truth for most of humanity. Of course Mulan was going to eventually settle down. They were entering peace time. Why would anyone want to go on spending their whole life fighting if it was avoidable. When she did settle down though, it was on her terms. Now, to quote Spartacus, "Anyone can learn to fight. There's a time for fighting, and there's a time for singing. Now, teach us to sing."
UrbanFarmboy 3 weeks ago
@kattwoman17 The idea that it'd be surprising for a woman to do that in the first place, maybe? Or maybe the stereotype falls on the men this time, that they're all silly brutes who just want to get laid. (Which is not true.) Mulan is an exception I think, though, and there are some wonderful exceptions... but the older Disney movies do rely heavily on gender stereotypes.
TheSatanicPanda 3 months ago
I don't understand the thing about Snow White. That story wasn't even written by Disney -- it's an ancient folklore from Germany. Further, women in those times actually did cook and clean, so I see nothing wrong there either. I suppose you'd prefer historical inaccuries.
DEBROXDEBROX 7 months ago
very nice vid! thanks!
ilovetruffles99 7 months ago
alladin- shes acting to distract jafar while alladin grabs the lamp! its not sexism! also,these are childrens movies,theyre not exactly gunna go to the sexism rap! theyre happy childrens stories!
phangirlnumber1 7 months ago
Sorry, but Jasmine has no ass. :)
dammyteo 8 months ago
You can't really use Mulan or Beauty and the best for examples of masculinity
picklesxrxkewl 8 months ago
this is nonsense. Dude, MUlan proves that women can be as strong as a man, not disprove
34RiverStone 8 months ago
you made that video bacause you are ugly right? lol
yadin513 8 months ago
@favm360 And do nooot blame 3 year olds wanting to be pretty on Disney. There is alot more at work to that. There are MILLIONS of everyday things that affect female beauty and NONE of them include inner beauty. There are just soo many cracks in your story it's rediculous.
DarkndHeartz 8 months ago
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DarkndHeartz 8 months ago
Geez Lousizz, Please//////// I'm not gonna argue this again
ginagrant1 8 months ago
If they make a character that's too unique no one will relate and no one will make an emotional connection with the movie. PLUS dude, you have to remember these are older movies...times have changed. Look at the movie Tangled that came out. Much more fitted for out time. The way Snow White was betrayed was the way my grandmother acted. Happy to clean and cook and I believe that movie came out around the time my grandmother was little. So like I said, it goes with the times. Just relax.
DarkndHeartz 8 months ago
Dude, theres nothing wrong with Disney movies. I and everyone I know grew up with them and none of my girl friends want to stay home, cook, clean and what not. Not all the guys are obsessed with looks. The reason you have characters like that in movies is cause it's a movie "formula". And when a character is made, they are generally made as a stereotype because stereotypes rule majority. And because of that, they are more relate-able.
DarkndHeartz 8 months ago
@DarkndHeartz LOL really? Disney women have no minds or sense of self0-sufficiency. They need a man. Ariel gave up her voice for a man, hence women must be submissive and go along. Beautiful means having long hair, an unrealistic figure, young, and average height. If you are fat, ugly, short, tall, and old then you must be evil. You should read "Cinderella ate my daughter", I used to think it was bs. But it is true. Disney is sexist. Why are 3 years old so concerned about being pretty? Disney.
favm360 8 months ago
@favm360 Lol hoooold on there buddy. First of all, Disney doesn't depict women as if the NEED a man. They are basing the characters off of basic HUMAN emotion. There is not ONE girl who would NOT give up her voice for that one special person in there life that they love. Everyone in the world would do just about anything for the love of their life. And I'll give you that they do make villians really tall and skinny or really short and fat. But there are also loveable characters like that too.
DarkndHeartz 8 months ago
@favm360 In hercules theres the Gospel girls, one of them his short and over weight but she's the most charasmatic one out of all of them. There's also the sultan from aladdin, he's short and round but so adorable.Plus, cinderella for the majority of the movie had short hair, snow white had short hair, Mulan cuts her hair short, Belle's hair wasn't long. I'll give it to you that OOOLD disney films were a bit stereotypical and sexist, BUT don't make it out that every Disney film is horrible.
DarkndHeartz 8 months ago
@favm360 And I said this in my first comment, they aim for the MAJORITY of the population. Average is majority, So they have average hair, average age (which ranges from pre-teen to late 20's maybe 30's), average height. Figures aren't realistic, that's true, but it's a cartoon, it's not made to be 100% realistic. Did you not see Tarzan? His hands and feet were huge with the chin the size of a football. Either way, Disney characters are made to be looked up to.
DarkndHeartz 8 months ago
@favm360 Why would they put an over weight person? No one WANTS to be over weight and no parent wants their child to be over weight. I'm not saying about being ugly, but no one wants their kid to be unhealthy and from what I understand being fat is another way of being unhealthy. And not all characters that were "ugly" were bad guys Quasi Moto was disfigured but was the main character.
DarkndHeartz 8 months ago
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DarkndHeartz 8 months ago
@DarkndHeartz talk to em after you take a college course
favm360 8 months ago
@favm360 I don't need a college course in order to tell you exactly what I see. It's not my fault you had to take some classes and make simple movies like this all complicated. You belong right up there with the fools that keep saying that Disney has subliminal sex messages. Honestly, why do people like you have to ANALYZE everything? It ruins it for everyone else.
DarkndHeartz 8 months ago
@favm360 Oh and also, just because someone takes a college class doesn't mean that they are automatically smarter than EVERYONE else. Anyone with common sense could tell you that.
DarkndHeartz 8 months ago
@DarkndHeartz Hence why many people go to college and are idiots. I know that. But having a 4.0, being in the honors society, and going to Sarah Lawrance, does say that I'm smarter than you. End of the argument you are like 12. You'll understand when you are older.
favm360 8 months ago
@favm360 Even with a 4.0, with honors and what not still doesn't mean you're smarter than ANYONE buddy. It just definitely means you pay attention in class and probably have a good memory. And for your information I'm not 12. I'm 21. It's cute how you try and find tiny ways to belittle my intelligence. Next you'll probably say something in the realms of how i'm dumb-witted for my age and so on. Which I really don't care how dumb you think I am or how smart you feel you are.
DarkndHeartz 8 months ago
@favm360 End of the argument is right. My point & opinion being; stop being an asshole and stop blaming movies like Disney for the insecurities of people.I've said it before, there is WAY more to that than just movies. And if you're going to make a video like this one stating this topic YOU SHOULD COVER IT ALL. Don't make one piece of media to blame.
DarkndHeartz 8 months ago
I think Snow White was just happy to be away from home, cleaning was even exciting... lol. Poor child needed to get out.
AnonaNicole 8 months ago
you do realize that most of these cartoons are older, when women's roles were as they are portrayed in disney's movies. The Cult of Domesticity was extremely prominent in these time periods and women were mainly house-keepers and home-makers. It's not sexist, its just how life was when they were created. Movies today are exactly the same way. It just seems natural because thats how you experience life today.
CDSoccerdude 8 months ago
Then, dont atack Disney... atack the writers who wrote those books because YES, several mopvies of Disney are based in books where the descriptiopn of the characters dont differ too much of what u see on screen. bUT SORRY i FORGOT THAT FAGGOTS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO BUT POST STUPID VIDEOS DONT READ.
edwinachonal 8 months ago
@whybotheridontcare
Um Mulan is the hero and she's a girl....they have made some disney characters "normal sized".....i think people need to stop taking all of this so seriously...stop getting affended by nothing...here's an example of not getting affended: Disney made Lilo (in Lilo and Stich) a fat Hawaiian girl but no one in Hawaii is mad for steryotyping us.....jeese, give Disney a break
808k1k2k3k4k5 9 months ago
if you have taken any form of psychology you know that beauty is a natural want, and that you usually tend to fall for someone ranking close to you in appearance. Yes, Disney woman are exaggereated, but so are a lot of things in the world today. many of these stories are hundreds of years old "Grimms fairytales, Greek Mythology, French fairytales etc..." unless you feel like completely re-writing history there is not much to be done.
HawkSong116 9 months ago
Sorry, but your video is out of context. Without that, your argument can't gain ground.
TotallyAster 9 months ago
Meg was pretty much a seductris by trade, she was supposed to be suggestive. And what about Rapunzel's hair at the end of the movie? How was that long flowing locks? Gaston was a VILLAIN you were supposed to hate him, and most of the Disney Prince's DONT have bulging muscle (i.e. Aladdin, Flynn Rider...)
SHABAM789 9 months ago
ariel giving up her voice for her man is quite a mouthful isnt it
Zmussoui 9 months ago
It's not ridicule when your target audience is 5-12.
cgphotographics 9 months ago
LOL You seem to have no sense of irony at all. The Gaston scene is pure irony. So is Ursula's statement that "only she who holds her tongue gets a man". Disney is not advocating these things, they are ridiculing them! Even the Mulan scene is highly ironic, making a man out of a woman! "Did they send me daughters, when I asked for sons?" Indeed they did! And they can do the job as well.
dunkelhaven 9 months ago
@dunkelhaven It's not ridicule when your target audience is 5-12.
cgphotographics 9 months ago
Well, I kind of agree. I think disney should make at least ONE movie where the girl is either the savior instead of the macho man or have the girl more, well, "normal" sized, meaning not a 00 with big boobs. I love the classic disney movies though and I wouldn't change them at all!
whybotheridontcare 9 months ago
I actually understand where this guy is going with the video, if you think a bit about it-partly its true. But also consider this- would you put an unhealthy-looking person, with a bad attitude to be the hero that children should look up to? Dont forget about Quasimodo, he is a freak but also the main character. Most of Disney's movies are based on fairy tales and as we all know- the fairy tales are about the handsome prince and the beautiful princess. Just enjoy the movie, don't overanalyse it.
Andragorans 9 months ago 29
@Andragorans Nobody was talking about an unhealthy looking person, for all we know these princesses could be unhealthy as in too skinny. We are talking about normal, average people.
I get your point about not wanting to overanalyse and take away from the movies you have grown up with. But the point is simply that these type of images are everyone and they are creating the cultural atmosphere we live in. It does not represent reality and it has negative effects. I think that weighs a little more.
jerona 9 months ago
@jerona Since when these movies got a negative effect on society? Since the creation of youtube? Before no one gave a damn if Gaston is a bodybuilder or Sleeping Beauty is a fashion model. And this thing is not suppose to represent reality - "fairy tale", its suppose to represent a fantasy world where everything is perfect and everyone is happy, where good beats evil. I do see that they are trying to put some old-fashioned dogmas like the woman's place is in the kitchen but look when its made.
Andragorans 9 months ago
@Andragorans No not since the creation YouTube. Probably in the '70s when people started to be more interested in the reception and influence of media.
Maybe it's not supposed to represent reality but even fairytales were influenced by the main ideas of a society at that point. Just like the stories influence us.
You make a good point about the time snow white came out. And I'm not seeking out Disney. I think they have done a good job in later movies. But overall in media this is a problem.
jerona 9 months ago
@Andragorans @kattwoman17 Very well said! I agree with both of you.
Fantasyof1995 5 months ago
@Fantasyof1995 Thank you :)
Andragorans 4 months ago
OK, things;
1. The Snow White one, of course she's happy to clean up a house, they're some strange women out trying to kill her, and the dwarfs were nice enough to let her stay there, in exchange for a clean house.
2.With Jasmin and Jafar; You say that Jasim uses her 'sexual charm' well ok, maybe she did, but when you're watching this, you're probably only a little kid and of course you don't know what sex is! so that's why it's not a promblem
Vulpix70 9 months ago
@Vulpix70
Maybe children are simply unaware of stuff like sex (actually, I think they are though) but they are still imprinted with these behaviors. Why do you think that our cultural attitudes towards sex are so messed up as adults?
Really, it's not about sexism or racism, it's about banality. These movies indoctrinate children with worse than hate, they indoctrinate them with mediocrity.
Jcolinsol 9 months ago
Disney doesn't hypergenderize their characters because they're trying to make children be those hypergenderized versions. They hypergenderize the characters because children both want and need clear representations of gender.
We're talking about a group of people who genuinely believe that if you put a dress on a boy, he becomes female.
Child psychology is actually more interesting than this video would make it out to be.
zEropoint68 9 months ago
Disney has many gender stereotypes all right, but you chose the worst examples! Beauty and the Beast is about the importance of the inside over looks, and Mulan is all about fighting gender stereotypes
ktivatova 10 months ago
how come non of those woman are in a kitchen? ''\_(0,o)_/''
hellawaits100 10 months ago
I think some of Disney's views are a bit outdated, but I think overall things like Gaston and Ursala's song have been take out of context.
ASarneck108 10 months ago 2
It is sad how few people actually understand this subject. The point of this video is to demonstrate how even 'safe' media like Disney is selling predefined gender roles to us. The responses to this video demonstrate how well they are doing. The message gets lodged so deep in our brains that we cannot even acknowledge that they are there. We simply respond as programmed. And almost all of us think that the programming is our own opinion. It is very difficult to think outside the program.
jwizardc 10 months ago
Can I just point out that Gaston wasn't the hero of Beauty and the Beast? He played the role of the pushy egotistical man that no woman wants! Thus Belle fell in love with a long-haired effeminate man who learned to be caring and not selfish. Also kissing up to Jafar in Alladin was something everyone was disgusted with. And in The Little Mermaid, it was obvious to me that the witch was talking about wrong stereotypes that aren't really true in human relations to get her evil way. I could go on..
jeshika22 10 months ago
Make a movie with fat bitchy chicks then loser!
CelticKraut 10 months ago 2
@CelticKraut The new "standard of beauty" lol
cr4yv3n 10 months ago
The main problem that this video has is that all the movies chosen undermine the argument. Snow White was earliest Disney movie ever made. Of course it's like that. And Gaston is the bad guy, and Mulan is all about defying gender roles. The song in The Little Mermaid is a parody of that kind of thinking. And with Aladdin, it’s called strategy; that bit is used a lot.
ASarneck108 10 months ago
@ASarneck108 I am not saying that this applies to every Disney movie or character. Quasimodo is an exception. I disagree that the movies in the video undermine the argument. Snow White's happiness to do housework was not true of women even then,though it may have been expected of women, that does not make it right. Gaston is the bad guy, but because of his looks he expects everyone to love him, even when they obviously don't, this does not change throughout the movie.
AliB610 10 months ago
@AliB610 Quasimodo isn't just an exception, he's the star of the movie. The whole point of the movie is getting past appearances, like Beauty and the Beast; the whole point of Mulan is getting past gender roles. Gaston is a parody, as is Ursula and her song. I agree that some appearances of men and women are unrealistic, but they aren't the basis of the film's messages. Most of this is parodies taken at face value.
ASarneck108 10 months ago
@ASarneck108 As for Aladdin, I don't think that just because it is used often in other movies, it is acceptable for them to use in this movie. I think that the fact that these ideas are so heavily represented in Disney movies, that are made for kids, can have a tendency to give children the wrong ideas.
AliB610 10 months ago
@AliB610 I just don't think this tactic is as harmful as it's cut out to be. I will say that I do see the tactic used by women more in media, though. There is an overrepresentation in that case.
ASarneck108 10 months ago
@ASarneck108 I do think that this tactic is definitely overrepresented in the media, and I do think it can be harmful. Obviously not all Disney movies are going to be harmful to kids, and some do have a good message. I just feel that Disney should be more aware of how these stereotypes that are portraying could affect the kids they are targeting as their audience.
AliB610 10 months ago
@AliB610 Well Disney movies have to view as a whole though. One movie can't just be an exception. All the movies are important to the Disney mythos, within there own context. Disney has become more modern with some of its cartoons actually. Look at Kim Possible, which used to be on the Disney Channel, which had a female protagonist with a male sidekick.
ASarneck108 10 months ago
@ASarneck108 I don't think you need to view all Disney movies as a whole. They are all completely different movies with different story lines and messages. Just because they are all made by the same company does not mean they all need to be viewed as one whole. Do you see all movies made by Universal studios to be parts of one whole? Not all children see all Disney movies, so they are not all seeing the overall message you are referring to.
AliB610 10 months ago
@ASarneck108 I do agree with you that Kim Possible is a progressive cartoon when it comes to gender roles. I am glad to see Disney breaking some gender stereotypes with that cartoon.
AliB610 10 months ago
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ASarneck108 10 months ago
The problem with this video is that all of it's "evidence" is either take so far out of context that you can make any claim about it or is trying to apply modern sentiments to what was acceptable in the past.
You can't just take one example for whatever movie best suits your argument, and apply it as a general trend.
XanderEoTW 10 months ago
whoever made this video is ugly.
darksinthe 10 months ago
To all who claim the good guys are always attractive and the bad guys are always ugly: Gaston is the perfect example of an attractive villain, you derned fools!
bluago 10 months ago
@bluago You are right, not all villains are ugly, but the majority of them are. My point still stands. I think it teaches kids that to be a good person you must be attractive.
AliB610 10 months ago
@AliB610 However, if you look at Gustan in Beauty and the Beast, it shown that his outward appearance doesnt make up for his repulsive behavior. He is basically the opposite of the Beast, whose personality ultimately wins Belle over. Remember, Gustan is the villain.
ASarneck108 10 months ago
@AliB610 What about Quasimodo from The Hunchback of Notre-Dame? The whole point of his character was that he was ugly but beautiful on the inside.
ASarneck108 10 months ago
The looks of the princes and princesses in Disney movies, teach kids that you nee to look a certain way. All of the "good guys" are always attractive while the bad guys are always unattractive. The princesses always begin the movies poor or in need of saving by their prince. All of the princesses seem to need their prince in order to be happy. The Little Mermaid in particular, teaches girls that it is OK to make major sacrifices and change who you are to be with a man you barley know.
AliB610 10 months ago
Why do people always use Gaston as an example? HE'S THE MOVIE'S VILLAIN, HE'S PORTRAYED AS SOMEONE YOU WOULDN'T WANNA BE LIKE!!
karaokegirl1313 10 months ago
You are all saying that we all would perfer someone beautiful to someone ugly. No is denying that. The question is why it is like that. Why can't Disney movies be about normal looking people, even if they are cartoons? These movies only give the message that good things only happen to pretty people. Another thing to think about is that almost always the "evil" people in children's movies are the ugly ones.
jollyhere94 11 months ago
This video was made by an ugly girl/fatboi.
vikingWindmill 11 months ago
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wysejesta 11 months ago
Look at all those offensive comments people are posting, challenging the norm really does frighten people.
WhiteFlowerLei76 11 months ago 11
This is the classic case of a person omitting crucial data to prove a point. Don't be swayed. Notice that Gastone-doesn't get the girl, the beast does. And the princess in Aladdin was being attempting to be manipulated in that clip by the antagonists to try and give up her voice.
allyd2779 11 months ago