when you lean the bike seems to counter steer it's self, i learnt last year about counter steering on my scooter by flicking the handlebars left or right making me nearly fall the opposite way but the scooter came with me the way i was falling, i never fell off doing it :)
@RockSmith92 Bikes don't counter-steer when going slowly, but any bike at speed including cycles will counter-steer. It's a law of physics you cannot beat.
@TheTheoldgit You can't turn a bike just by leaning your body....change lanes maybe....but not turn. You HAVE TO countersteer to turn a bike.....any kind of bike.
@13mordeth Funny thing is about counter-steering. Is that you naturally will do it without "trying" to... if I try, when I just playing around I eff up but when I turn hard without thinking.. it goes smoothly. Riding a motorcyle is a mind-fu** lol
Hmm, i never realised i countersteer on my bike, also i don't think i want to see that since I am allways going past a light pole, thingy when i take that highspeed cornering due to bikers road limitation on the sidewalk, i normaly just lean it to the direction i am going when i am going for more then 20 km /H guess i have done that as u said without realiseing it
When i get a nice corner without any obstacol i'll try to take a sneak peak on the handelbar
you're absolutely right. I don't know why everyone's made a big deal about the fact of counter steering. lol. To make a sharp turn, or any turn, you have to steer away from the turn first and then go in the direction you're going to turn. That's how you square up to your turn without flipping over. It's basic physics...
Isn't counter steering normal? Because I only just realised it from watching this video that I've been doing it (I just checked on my push bike because I didn't know what the hell it was)
Yea the "pulling" explanation makes much more sense to me. When other people said to push, I always ended up twisting the handlebars. I wish I had watched your vids before I took the MSF course. They made everything confusing as hell.
I've been riding mountain bikes for over 10 years now (started when I was 7) and just now I realized that this is true xD. I've already done upwards of 20-30mph on my mountain bike but never really paid any attention to how I turned.....I just, well, did it!
Every video says, push right, turn right. Confusing as f***!!! I have concluded, if you want to turn left, a bit before the turn, you turn a little to the right first, then actually turn to the left so that the center of balance is leaning inward (toward the left) as you take the turn to compensate. The upper part of the bike and yourself will naturally want to go to the right due to centrifugal force, and this is how you keep your balance. Higher speed = more leaning in. Wrong?
The way you explained it was really confusing because you used the same terminology for two different things. 2:26 you started saying a bunch of pushing and pulling but you didnt indicate which direction in a 3 dimensional space because we the viewers dont know if you mean pull up, pull back, pull left...etc. Maybe im analyzing it too much but for new riders, like me, who are new to all concepts of riding, the video was really confusing.
Im only riding a 50cc moped atm but counter steering makes a HUGE difference!... The amount off times that cars pull out on you and your just able to squeeze through or stop is immense. Counter steering alone has saved my ass so many times!!.. The difference in the speed and amount you can turn without having to worry is huge and seriously without me viewing this video a few months back and actually getting to grips with it i doubt id still be on the road today and able to write this! Thankyou!
let's see, 13mordeth is correct in what he says. You could never get into a corner trying to tilt the bike with your body, look on youtube a motorcycle invented by Keith Code call BS bike and I hope that everyone understands the great help that this guy gives. Greetings to all.
Just got back to this after I got my first bike (already lost my licence though, and then my bike died, so I'm saving up for a new honda CBR250. ): ) at any rate, thanks for all the lessons, they really helped me learn. Especially the counter steering, and all the hints and tips you've dropped during your many videos. Saved me many a time.
You can effectively practice counter-steering on a regular bicycle. If you're going straight and you pull the handlebars very slightly right the bike is going to make you lean left.
@HXCchris876 Yes it is covered. But they usually don't go into it any deeper than this video. They usually just stick to, "The wheel is a gyroscope." You REALLY want to understand counter steering? Learn about gyroscopes.
But you really don't need to understand the physics of it. You just need to be aware of the effect. Your brain will fill in what it needs to know.
It's like walking. No one knows what gravity is, and most don't know the math of balance. Yet it doesn't keep us from walking.
i dont get it...i turn my wheel to the right when i wanna go right and left to go left....yh should i learn countersteering if i can ride amazingly without it?
@mohamed83 If you turn to the right....so that the wheel turns to point to the right....the bike will go left. And don't feel confused just get on a bicycle and test it like I explain in the video.
@AramisDeVannes The only way you can turn a bike is with countersteering...unless you're going very slow in a parking lot or something. So the answer is you ALWAYS use countersteering above 10miles an hour.
@13mordeth oh ok cause I never heard of counter steer before and is new to me. In where I come from all driving school only teach you how to master the whole circuit course (the one you use in the exams) but doesn't teach you the basics. Always thought turn left lean body to left but thx to ur videos I learn alot of new things
Another thing for new riders. watch how even when his light is green he looks both ways to make sure all cars have stopped. I notice all too many riders not look. Your not in a car so you need to watch for other drivers. If someone runs a red and your in a car oh well new car. If your on your bike and some one runs a red and you dont look your pretty much dead. SO MAKE SURE YOU LOOK! even if you have a green make it a habbit
@viss3n You won't be able to. After counter steering kicks in; the harder you push the right handle to turn the wheel left, the more the motorbike will lean (and turn) to the right.
Eventually you would simply rub a body panel, lift a wheel off the ground, and slide out of the corner.
@13mordeth well, you can simply fall into the turn, which requires turning the bike with it so as not to die. basically countersteering causes you to lean into the turn and the bike turns...
You ever turn with a coutersteering, maybe only the time difference between counter and steering is to small, to see it easily when going slow.
And understand it right - countersteering is the method for initiating! turn - when doing abruptly, or changing turn in a deeper one.
Then, in turn, your countersteer is shallower (genlty keep pushing the holder on the same side as turn - same force during the whole turn), for holding bike in turn position.
@SIETETIZ Lol. Dude, you have to shift down (or up) into the 1st gear when your bike has come to a stop if you want to get it moving again. Just try to get your bike moving in the 3rd gear and you'll understand. Trial and error is the best way to learn.
@SIETETIZ it'll take the bike a while to build up speed so you'll be slow and the people behind you will get pissed off. Just switch to first gear when you stop
@Roadhockey39 You can counter-steer any bike dude. Dirt or otherwise. But certain conditions need to be met. Your running speed should be above 30 km an hour or maybe a little more. And counter-steering works best on a tarred or smooth road. But yeah, I don't think dirt bikes need to use counter-steering because they're not usually ridden in places where you need counter-steering.
haha i can imagine all the americans actually turning the handle bars fully not just pushing them gently and going flying into the wall plus this is the second video ive seen u run a red light
and people seriously.... A BICYCLE AND MOTORCYCLE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS..... yes they work off a few similar ideas but they are very different, all the people who dont ride motorcycles but ride bicycles and think they can give advice about them.... please stop its not helping.... if you want to see the difference i have an old beat-up R6 you can use and ill laugh when you drop it alot because you think its just like a bicycle
@mastermansur yea you can stick to just leaning... if all your doing is changing lanes and taking slow wide turns....
countersteering is hard to fully explain because its more comfort and trust then technique, ive given up trying to teach people i know because they understand it but they dont trust themselves and the motorcycle and freak out if the wheel isnt straight.
oh Mordeth, what do you use to record. was thinking about starting some videos of roads in the rockies here.
@mastermansur Take your hands off the handlebar put them on the tank....and see how well you can corner with just "leaning". I'll save you the trouble and let you know now....you won't be able to turn at all. In other words you HAVE TO countersteer to turn.
I hate the way people explain countersteering. Your wheel never actually turns in the opposite direction, its as if you push your bike into a lean more than anything. It's pretty much instinctual and most people get the feel of it right away if they ride a motorcycle without being told about countersteering. Once people are told, "oh the handlebars go the opposite way" they get confused and think about it way too much while they're riding.
@tojema ikr leaning is just the best way just like riding a bicycle i know when i go on high speed on bicycles i dont use the handle bars to steer in fact i lean to steer and i have no problems at all i think if people started to think bicycles are exact same thing as motorbikes, but motorbikes are obviously faster, they will ride better. then thinking about counter-steering and all that shit
@tojema Sorry, but you're wrong. First of all the tire does turn the wrong way initially....it would have to since the handle bar does move. And secondly....yes, people can countersteer without being taught about it.....BUT they ride a lot better once they are consciously aware of it. And that's why people should learn about it.
@13mordeth it is MUCH better if a person has ridden a bicycle and gone over 15 km/h and turned BEFORE having been on a motorcycle. I've taught many people to ride before and it goes much more smoothly if I don't tell them about countersteering. Being aware of it before trying it usually sends them into a panicked wobble. All countersteering is, is a SLIGHT inital change in the wheel, then putting more weight on one side of the wheel, causing the bike to arc in one direction, not a
@13mordeth I agree with you and tojema. When I watched a couple videos on it, it helped me, but made me more worried I would wreck on a turn, even though it actually helped me turn better.
Yes it becomes instinct, yes we need to know what is happening, yes we consciously think about it more....sometimes too much.
after demonstration i relized i already knew and understood how to ride a motorcycle. riding your bike everywhere translates alot of concepts that are in motorcycle riding. nice vid
@BoXaS23 that is how i used to ride for years until i watched this video haha! leaning is having the same effect as counter steerin. i find counter steering much more responsive though :)
Is it correct when I say that this happens more or less automatically? I honestly have never heard of it for quite some time, yet I was able to ride my bicycle pretty fast around corners, so I must have been able to do it, right? Much of the confusion here probably comes from people thinking that it's all about the handlebars, when in reality it's all about balance and causing the bike to lean.
@EPR89 i just tried it on my bicycle and it works! go around 20 kph and then go around a corner, say if its a left corner lean left but turn right (GENTLY too much and bike will tip) and it does work. i was surprised it works.. i have done counter-steering without even knowing lol..
ok to clear things up countersteering come into effect at around 20kph more or less and its not sudden movements on the handlebars.... just a gentle small push and lean with the bike, its easy to do.
if your scared of leaning on the bike then perhaps you shouldnt get one in the first place.....
Don't get caught up in this "turn right, go left nonsense".
In a nutshell, because the front wheel acts like a gyroscope, turning the bars to the right causes the bike to TILT to the left. Then you straighten out, and you use the lean to make the turn.
hey im looking into getting a r6 i was wondering if thats a good bike first off and also is their any kinda of weight/height stipulation with sport bikes
Nice video. I did a video in the UK on countersteering too using my Aprilia Tuono V4, please check it out and let me know what you think. Thanks. Russ
@fps110 Oh I know he's Canadian....I just think it's interesting he's in Taiwan teaching the peeps over there how to sprecen the english....he must stick out like a sore thumb
note only if you want to keep your speed you need to do counter steering try it on your bike goo fast then on the turn shift your weight to the side your turning and the wheel to the opposite side
thanks mordeth13 I keep coming back to your vids to help me before I get my scooter. I hope to get it soon. I would have never known about counter steering at all.
This whole "push left turn left" deal is so confusing. It seems more like the key is to get the bike to lean in the direction of the turn, which really means to push down to get it to lean. You're not steering right, which is a key distinction here. I haven't ridden a motorcycle, but I ride rode bikes and have ridden scooters at speed (well in excess of 20km/h)... it is all a bit intuitive I think once you are rolling
He doesn't mean that you keep the bars turned the opposite way the whole time. It's just so that when you turn right, centripetal acceleration will force the bike to tip over to the left. At that point, you turn the bars slightly left and lean to your left to keep the bike going.
Is there a way to avoid this? I personally don't ride but am interested in starting
If I were to change lanes on a highway for example, I would have to counter-steer? Is there no way to lean the bike to where you want to go, without using the handlebars?
Because this is what I do when I ride bikes, I never find myself using the handlebars at high speeds.
@hansaru Because motorcycle wheels are rounded and not flat. Look up other videos which show this on the outside. It's pretty easy though, and goes pretty natural. Just go fast on a bicycle and try it.
@13mordeth I wouldn't say you "turn" the handle bars the opposite way you want to go, but more pull or push the bars the opposite way generate a force that then makes the bike lean in the direction of the turn you're trying to make. same exact thing that you see when the bike is leaned way down, but the front tire is facing straight while going through a corner.
Just try it, and it becomes natural. If you just sit around and think about it, the fact that it is so counter-intuitive will just leave you perplexed.
I so wish I had seen your video 2 days ago. Picked up a new Ninja, never ridden before, took it out, sweeping left hand corner, did the exact opposite to what you demonstrated and put it off the road into the grass. I had no idea lol, I just assumed turn wheel to left, go left. I was wrong. So, thank you for your video, I'll put what Ive learnt to good use. :)
@ThunderWindz yeah Ive got the license, but it was only a theory test. Did do a pre-learner course but it was done at speeds <10km and the bloke didn't mention about counter-steering. Im just thankful that even though I came off, it was at a low speed and in the best possible conditions.
@TheWickedit wow okay... in Denmark you need to have 25 hours theory lessons and 13 hours public road riddin (with speed up to 80miles/hour) + 9 hours closed road. After that you take a theory test and a test on road ^^. it's very expensive (2000$) and pretty hard, but good and secure way to learn it. :P
No you don't turn left and go right. You turn the handle bar left and lean with the bike to make it go right.
Teaching people this will make them not understand what is really happening and may lead to severe accidents i recommend watching professional rider's on closed courses and try to understand what is actually happening.
when you lean the bike seems to counter steer it's self, i learnt last year about counter steering on my scooter by flicking the handlebars left or right making me nearly fall the opposite way but the scooter came with me the way i was falling, i never fell off doing it :)
jamesp950 1 day ago
Technically, July 4th is our (USA) INDEPENDENCE day. More or less, it's considered a Birthday of sorts.
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In Finland this is taught in 12 one-hour lessons, on the motorcycle license course.
When you turn right, you pull with your left hand, and push with right hand. It's turns to right. Vice versa to left.
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Arorndulia 4 days ago
easy when cornering with this technique...trust me...
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its funny because it happens automatically but still makes no sense to most people haha
calumkz 5 days ago
its funny because it happens automatically but still makes no sense to most people haha
calumkz 5 days ago
clearly dont understand the definition of counter steering
ljguy300 5 days ago
That's weird.
I must try this.
qwertylockley 6 days ago
Bike is just 2 large gyroscopes with a seat and an engine :)
Gee0F 6 days ago
when i first started riding, i had no idea what counter steering was...now that i do i realized that it just came naturally
mkbitchin26 6 days ago
I would hope anyone riding a bike already knows about counterstering, I hope...
TONY22407 1 week ago
i dont countersteer :s lol, when i pull the bar to the right, the bike goes right :/ maybe i just misnderstood you... what do i know? lol.
RockSmith92 1 week ago
@RockSmith92 Bikes don't counter-steer when going slowly, but any bike at speed including cycles will counter-steer. It's a law of physics you cannot beat.
motorcycliscian 1 week ago
@motorcycliscian makes more sense now, cheers.
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Why not just lean into the corner like mostpeople do.
TheTheoldgit 1 week ago
@TheTheoldgit You can't turn a bike just by leaning your body....change lanes maybe....but not turn. You HAVE TO countersteer to turn a bike.....any kind of bike.
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@13mordeth Well bugger me I´ve been doing it wrong for the last 36 years then! Sorry
TheTheoldgit 1 week ago
@13mordeth Funny thing is about counter-steering. Is that you naturally will do it without "trying" to... if I try, when I just playing around I eff up but when I turn hard without thinking.. it goes smoothly. Riding a motorcyle is a mind-fu** lol
CrashWatcha 1 week ago
3:24 vtec just kicked in yo!
bdysntchr7 1 week ago
now im gonna beat valentino rossi hehe :P
ALBANIAN777777777777 1 week ago
i am dutch, me and everyone i know rides a bicycle daily. i never heard of countersteering :D i will pay more attention to it now.
IBangedPrincessPeach 2 weeks ago
Hmm, i never realised i countersteer on my bike, also i don't think i want to see that since I am allways going past a light pole, thingy when i take that highspeed cornering due to bikers road limitation on the sidewalk, i normaly just lean it to the direction i am going when i am going for more then 20 km /H guess i have done that as u said without realiseing it
When i get a nice corner without any obstacol i'll try to take a sneak peak on the handelbar
Cheers !!
Voxiripeer 2 weeks ago
what a load a crap
if you dont know how to steer on a bike, stay the hell away from it
motonoelke 2 weeks ago
you're absolutely right. I don't know why everyone's made a big deal about the fact of counter steering. lol. To make a sharp turn, or any turn, you have to steer away from the turn first and then go in the direction you're going to turn. That's how you square up to your turn without flipping over. It's basic physics...
tadster00 2 weeks ago
July first....damn u silly!
dunadain99 2 weeks ago
Isn't counter steering normal? Because I only just realised it from watching this video that I've been doing it (I just checked on my push bike because I didn't know what the hell it was)
KenanVideos 2 weeks ago
are you constantly pushing the handle bar or do you push it gently and it'll do the work?
chau123456x 2 weeks ago
Yea the "pulling" explanation makes much more sense to me. When other people said to push, I always ended up twisting the handlebars. I wish I had watched your vids before I took the MSF course. They made everything confusing as hell.
Ihkueren 3 weeks ago
I've been riding mountain bikes for over 10 years now (started when I was 7) and just now I realized that this is true xD. I've already done upwards of 20-30mph on my mountain bike but never really paid any attention to how I turned.....I just, well, did it!
xXUSMCGRIFFXx 3 weeks ago
push right go right, push left go left, you do it already so dont over think it.
MegaJAYBAYBAY 3 weeks ago
Every video says, push right, turn right. Confusing as f***!!! I have concluded, if you want to turn left, a bit before the turn, you turn a little to the right first, then actually turn to the left so that the center of balance is leaning inward (toward the left) as you take the turn to compensate. The upper part of the bike and yourself will naturally want to go to the right due to centrifugal force, and this is how you keep your balance. Higher speed = more leaning in. Wrong?
TheNightmareSequence 3 weeks ago
@TheNightmareSequence Sounds about right, that's the way I'm seeing it
KenanVideos 2 weeks ago
I wondered at first "i dont counter steer like that" then i realized that i used the pushing method...
TheMightyDahQ 4 weeks ago
The way you explained it was really confusing because you used the same terminology for two different things. 2:26 you started saying a bunch of pushing and pulling but you didnt indicate which direction in a 3 dimensional space because we the viewers dont know if you mean pull up, pull back, pull left...etc. Maybe im analyzing it too much but for new riders, like me, who are new to all concepts of riding, the video was really confusing.
diablo17858 4 weeks ago
@diablo17858 If you go round the corner you're doing it right!
snowypetrel 3 weeks ago
@snowypetrel well said my friend, well said.
diablo17858 3 weeks ago
@diablo17858 when he said push he means push the handlebars forward and when he said pull he means pull the handlebars back.
13RuffRyder 2 weeks ago
@diablo17858 Try these out to complete M13's info.
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GameVisionaryIP 1 week ago
Im only riding a 50cc moped atm but counter steering makes a HUGE difference!... The amount off times that cars pull out on you and your just able to squeeze through or stop is immense. Counter steering alone has saved my ass so many times!!.. The difference in the speed and amount you can turn without having to worry is huge and seriously without me viewing this video a few months back and actually getting to grips with it i doubt id still be on the road today and able to write this! Thankyou!
TisDaNieL 4 weeks ago
let's see, 13mordeth is correct in what he says. You could never get into a corner trying to tilt the bike with your body, look on youtube a motorcycle invented by Keith Code call BS bike and I hope that everyone understands the great help that this guy gives. Greetings to all.
Castawayization 1 month ago
Just got back to this after I got my first bike (already lost my licence though, and then my bike died, so I'm saving up for a new honda CBR250. ): ) at any rate, thanks for all the lessons, they really helped me learn. Especially the counter steering, and all the hints and tips you've dropped during your many videos. Saved me many a time.
Good luck with everything
Leagle18 1 month ago
You can effectively practice counter-steering on a regular bicycle. If you're going straight and you pull the handlebars very slightly right the bike is going to make you lean left.
zoredon 1 month ago
hi saw your videos on counter steering.Good advice I have tried it on the road with good results
I have only been riding 1 year had small accident if i new how to counter steer I would not have had it cheers for the advice.
shaun2049 1 month ago
is all this explained and taught in a basic riding course ??
HXCchris876 1 month ago
@HXCchris876 Yes it is covered. But they usually don't go into it any deeper than this video. They usually just stick to, "The wheel is a gyroscope." You REALLY want to understand counter steering? Learn about gyroscopes.
But you really don't need to understand the physics of it. You just need to be aware of the effect. Your brain will fill in what it needs to know.
It's like walking. No one knows what gravity is, and most don't know the math of balance. Yet it doesn't keep us from walking.
atsernov 1 month ago
i didn't even know bout this but do it all the time :s lol
pixies64 1 month ago
canada's birthday is july 1st canada day
docmorrell 1 month ago
i dont get it...i turn my wheel to the right when i wanna go right and left to go left....yh should i learn countersteering if i can ride amazingly without it?
Nascarrr48 1 month ago
If you're riding a bike really fast (bicycle) and you're steering is it the same as a moped when you don't turn the handle bars?
dixondw13 1 month ago
i like your videos. thanks! oh btw, canada day is July 1st.
motconheocon 1 month ago
Push the handle bar to the left and the bike goes to the right?????????? Sorry I'm confused.
mohamed83 1 month ago
@mohamed83 If you turn to the right....so that the wheel turns to point to the right....the bike will go left. And don't feel confused just get on a bicycle and test it like I explain in the video.
13mordeth 1 month ago
When do you use counter steer and when to use normal turn sorry I'm a new rider here
AramisDeVannes 1 month ago
@AramisDeVannes The only way you can turn a bike is with countersteering...unless you're going very slow in a parking lot or something. So the answer is you ALWAYS use countersteering above 10miles an hour.
13mordeth 1 month ago
@13mordeth oh ok cause I never heard of counter steer before and is new to me. In where I come from all driving school only teach you how to master the whole circuit course (the one you use in the exams) but doesn't teach you the basics. Always thought turn left lean body to left but thx to ur videos I learn alot of new things
AramisDeVannes 1 month ago
What the Fuck!! You just blew my mind. I'm going to try this tomorrow, and hopefully not die.
2313connor 1 month ago
Another thing for new riders. watch how even when his light is green he looks both ways to make sure all cars have stopped. I notice all too many riders not look. Your not in a car so you need to watch for other drivers. If someone runs a red and your in a car oh well new car. If your on your bike and some one runs a red and you dont look your pretty much dead. SO MAKE SURE YOU LOOK! even if you have a green make it a habbit
mrmidnight32 2 months ago 2
i dont counter steer on my bycicle and i go 32 km/u i just make the turn and lean in to the corner
viss3n 2 months ago
@viss3n You're wrong. You countersteer you just don't realize it. You CAN'T turn a bike or motorcycle at more than 10mph without countersteering.
13mordeth 1 month ago 6
@13mordeth and what if i do so? i go faster than 10mph and make a turn and keep turning in the corner?
viss3n 1 month ago
@viss3n You won't be able to. After counter steering kicks in; the harder you push the right handle to turn the wheel left, the more the motorbike will lean (and turn) to the right.
Eventually you would simply rub a body panel, lift a wheel off the ground, and slide out of the corner.
atsernov 1 month ago
@13mordeth well, you can simply fall into the turn, which requires turning the bike with it so as not to die. basically countersteering causes you to lean into the turn and the bike turns...
gibbo1112 1 week ago
soooo windy!!!!
DjYoungSkeff 2 months ago
how do u record :oo?
Puertoricangirl223 2 months ago
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wat country are u in?
OfficialRasTV 2 months ago
July 1st, Canada Day.
ShaukuSan 2 months ago
You don't use your turn signal much do you?
tenmilliondollarsnow 2 months ago
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TheTopScouser1892 2 months ago 21
You ever turn with a coutersteering, maybe only the time difference between counter and steering is to small, to see it easily when going slow.
And understand it right - countersteering is the method for initiating! turn - when doing abruptly, or changing turn in a deeper one.
Then, in turn, your countersteer is shallower (genlty keep pushing the holder on the same side as turn - same force during the whole turn), for holding bike in turn position.
adorinadorin 3 months ago
Feel free to checkout my video on countersteering, see what you think.. Cheers :-)
RoadcraftNottingham 3 months ago
when u are on a light can you leave it lets say in 3rd gear or do you have to bring it down to 1st
SIETETIZ 3 months ago
@SIETETIZ Lol. Dude, you have to shift down (or up) into the 1st gear when your bike has come to a stop if you want to get it moving again. Just try to get your bike moving in the 3rd gear and you'll understand. Trial and error is the best way to learn.
FriskyPupz 3 months ago
@FriskyPupz LOL i just wanted to know what would happen if i do that ?
SIETETIZ 3 months ago
@SIETETIZ it'll take the bike a while to build up speed so you'll be slow and the people behind you will get pissed off. Just switch to first gear when you stop
baghli91 2 months ago
u cant counter steer a dirt bike
Roadhockey39 3 months ago
@Roadhockey39 You can counter-steer any bike dude. Dirt or otherwise. But certain conditions need to be met. Your running speed should be above 30 km an hour or maybe a little more. And counter-steering works best on a tarred or smooth road. But yeah, I don't think dirt bikes need to use counter-steering because they're not usually ridden in places where you need counter-steering.
FriskyPupz 3 months ago
What bike do you have?
SuneAntofteOlsen 3 months ago
@SuneAntofteOlsen I believe it is a Ninja 650R.
ftpaddict 3 months ago
@ftpaddict Okay, thanks dude :)
SuneAntofteOlsen 3 months ago
haha i can imagine all the americans actually turning the handle bars fully not just pushing them gently and going flying into the wall plus this is the second video ive seen u run a red light
azza44100 3 months ago
shit cops!!! 3:22
ShaqX7 3 months ago
and people seriously.... A BICYCLE AND MOTORCYCLE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS..... yes they work off a few similar ideas but they are very different, all the people who dont ride motorcycles but ride bicycles and think they can give advice about them.... please stop its not helping.... if you want to see the difference i have an old beat-up R6 you can use and ill laugh when you drop it alot because you think its just like a bicycle
shockwave1250 3 months ago
@mastermansur yea you can stick to just leaning... if all your doing is changing lanes and taking slow wide turns....
countersteering is hard to fully explain because its more comfort and trust then technique, ive given up trying to teach people i know because they understand it but they dont trust themselves and the motorcycle and freak out if the wheel isnt straight.
oh Mordeth, what do you use to record. was thinking about starting some videos of roads in the rockies here.
shockwave1250 3 months ago
the canadian knows almost every country's bday but his
MrPenman02 3 months ago
July 1st is Canada Day - I'm Australian.
wyrwich 3 months ago
can you just stick to leaning instead of counter steering?
mastermansur 4 months ago
@mastermansur Take your hands off the handlebar put them on the tank....and see how well you can corner with just "leaning". I'll save you the trouble and let you know now....you won't be able to turn at all. In other words you HAVE TO countersteer to turn.
13mordeth 1 month ago 2
@13mordeth thats not true, granted you wot be able to corners as well. You can still corner your hands on the tank
krs171990 1 month ago
July 1st
EFSpartan 4 months ago
I hate the way people explain countersteering. Your wheel never actually turns in the opposite direction, its as if you push your bike into a lean more than anything. It's pretty much instinctual and most people get the feel of it right away if they ride a motorcycle without being told about countersteering. Once people are told, "oh the handlebars go the opposite way" they get confused and think about it way too much while they're riding.
tojema 4 months ago 5
@tojema ikr leaning is just the best way just like riding a bicycle i know when i go on high speed on bicycles i dont use the handle bars to steer in fact i lean to steer and i have no problems at all i think if people started to think bicycles are exact same thing as motorbikes, but motorbikes are obviously faster, they will ride better. then thinking about counter-steering and all that shit
hhmha1997 4 months ago
@tojema Sorry, but you're wrong. First of all the tire does turn the wrong way initially....it would have to since the handle bar does move. And secondly....yes, people can countersteer without being taught about it.....BUT they ride a lot better once they are consciously aware of it. And that's why people should learn about it.
13mordeth 1 month ago 14
@13mordeth it is MUCH better if a person has ridden a bicycle and gone over 15 km/h and turned BEFORE having been on a motorcycle. I've taught many people to ride before and it goes much more smoothly if I don't tell them about countersteering. Being aware of it before trying it usually sends them into a panicked wobble. All countersteering is, is a SLIGHT inital change in the wheel, then putting more weight on one side of the wheel, causing the bike to arc in one direction, not a
tojema 1 month ago
@13mordeth I agree with you and tojema. When I watched a couple videos on it, it helped me, but made me more worried I would wreck on a turn, even though it actually helped me turn better.
Yes it becomes instinct, yes we need to know what is happening, yes we consciously think about it more....sometimes too much.
chiefkyle1 1 month ago
@tojema IThat's true. It's just shifting the wheel line under the bike to enable a turn to begin. But 13Mordeth is great :-)
snowypetrel 3 weeks ago
why are there chineese letters on the street in canada?
iTzDaNnYmAgZ1105 4 months ago
@iTzDaNnYmAgZ1105 he's in china :D
knuto96 4 months ago
@knuto96 More specifically Taiwan ;D
Rasspers 4 months ago
@iTzDaNnYmAgZ1105 China town...
idiotzrule 4 months ago
I think everybody that knows how to ride a bike knows how to counter steer they just don't realize it.
Trashjack101 4 months ago
Going to try this tomorrow. Hopefully my face won't get introduced to the hedge
fecto3210 4 months ago 14
Why does that work?
carsismeZ06 4 months ago
after demonstration i relized i already knew and understood how to ride a motorcycle. riding your bike everywhere translates alot of concepts that are in motorcycle riding. nice vid
FutebolMusicaDance 4 months ago
goto monkey mountain... i lived in tainan, and had same 600cc bike - i miss taiwan
howitee 4 months ago
kawasaki ninja grey - red frame
howitee 4 months ago
counter steering is the most reponsive method of handling your machine :D m13 FTW
patrix404 4 months ago
3:24- whoop. Not a good place to be doing this... VRROOOOOOMMMM
XD Very nice explanation. =D
aaronbassist146 4 months ago 2
yeah if I want to turn I just lean not turn the wheel:D Exept on U turns
BoXaS23 4 months ago
@BoXaS23 that is how i used to ride for years until i watched this video haha! leaning is having the same effect as counter steerin. i find counter steering much more responsive though :)
patrix404 4 months ago
this is mind fuck.. hehe :)
ASMUNDHEHE 4 months ago
Were you using the clutch when you were shifting in this video?
ELKINKNIGHT935 4 months ago
Is it correct when I say that this happens more or less automatically? I honestly have never heard of it for quite some time, yet I was able to ride my bicycle pretty fast around corners, so I must have been able to do it, right? Much of the confusion here probably comes from people thinking that it's all about the handlebars, when in reality it's all about balance and causing the bike to lean.
EPR89 4 months ago
@EPR89 i just tried it on my bicycle and it works! go around 20 kph and then go around a corner, say if its a left corner lean left but turn right (GENTLY too much and bike will tip) and it does work. i was surprised it works.. i have done counter-steering without even knowing lol..
David20931 4 months ago
oh mordeth, what do you use to record? i was going to get something set-up to start recording some trip out here
shockwave1250 4 months ago
ok to clear things up countersteering come into effect at around 20kph more or less and its not sudden movements on the handlebars.... just a gentle small push and lean with the bike, its easy to do.
if your scared of leaning on the bike then perhaps you shouldnt get one in the first place.....
shockwave1250 4 months ago
I dont want to try and steer left to go right, and end up going left and killing myself.
ChromeA007 4 months ago 2
@ChromeA007 You only steer lightly. Worst case scenario you steer to the left...and move over a bit to the left.
13mordeth 1 month ago
@13mordeth or an a major scenario you low side
TheXcaliber223 1 month ago
Don't get caught up in this "turn right, go left nonsense".
In a nutshell, because the front wheel acts like a gyroscope, turning the bars to the right causes the bike to TILT to the left. Then you straighten out, and you use the lean to make the turn.
36trooper 4 months ago
@RAFtyphoonsftw apparently so lol.
David20931 4 months ago
Some one told me to push right to go right nd push left to go left is that correct
5115wesker 4 months ago
@5115wesker according to counter-steering no. even im confused now.. i wanna know how come its not the same as on a normal bicycle.......
David20931 4 months ago
@David20931 It IS the same on a bicycle. I explain that in the video.
13mordeth 1 month ago
Here's a good example of counter-steering /watch?v=ROKnINU_1IY
bonefetish1 5 months ago in playlist bike 2
Huh?
bullet836 5 months ago
im sure people were wtf'ing about your hand signals because they had no clue who your talking to lol
dameinxyz 5 months ago
YOUR CANADIAN AND LIVE IN ASIA? --AWESOME
Pudders9225 5 months ago
hey im looking into getting a r6 i was wondering if thats a good bike first off and also is their any kinda of weight/height stipulation with sport bikes
playskoolonacid 5 months ago
see im confused turn right push left to go right
wootwoot409 5 months ago
my dad has a honda dominator 650cc!
GeorgeMathewTV 5 months ago
Push Scooter !! :D lmao skatebaord
iamsupercrazy 5 months ago
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Nice video. I did a video in the UK on countersteering too using my Aprilia Tuono V4, please check it out and let me know what you think. Thanks. Russ
RoadcraftNottingham 5 months ago
people must of thought you were nuts when your sitting there talking to yourself. fucking canadians
fps110 5 months ago
@fps110 canadian in taiwan? hmmm
Hbryant188 5 months ago
@Hbryant188 if your questioning me on regards to him being canadian, if you'd listen to the video he says it.
fps110 5 months ago
@fps110 Oh I know he's Canadian....I just think it's interesting he's in Taiwan teaching the peeps over there how to sprecen the english....he must stick out like a sore thumb
Hbryant188 5 months ago
i finally understand after 2 days and hundreds of videos thank you live saver right here
crisisawesome1 5 months ago
note only if you want to keep your speed you need to do counter steering try it on your bike goo fast then on the turn shift your weight to the side your turning and the wheel to the opposite side
djflipso 5 months ago
thanks mordeth13 I keep coming back to your vids to help me before I get my scooter. I hope to get it soon. I would have never known about counter steering at all.
cassleer 5 months ago
thanks mordeth13 I keep coming back to your vids to help me before I get my scooter. I hope to get it soon.
cassleer 5 months ago
This whole "push left turn left" deal is so confusing. It seems more like the key is to get the bike to lean in the direction of the turn, which really means to push down to get it to lean. You're not steering right, which is a key distinction here. I haven't ridden a motorcycle, but I ride rode bikes and have ridden scooters at speed (well in excess of 20km/h)... it is all a bit intuitive I think once you are rolling
ljkoski 5 months ago
@eamonhoffman I'm a Motocross racer, i know what i am talking about. But yes you are right.
OriginalDowny 5 months ago
wow.....im about 2 get my first bike and i dont understand this at all.
Big7Sexy 5 months ago
i like that you make signals with your hands even when you are riding...G O O D
TheAmartolosnekrosGR 5 months ago
He doesn't mean that you keep the bars turned the opposite way the whole time. It's just so that when you turn right, centripetal acceleration will force the bike to tip over to the left. At that point, you turn the bars slightly left and lean to your left to keep the bike going.
acoti 5 months ago
Is there a way to avoid this? I personally don't ride but am interested in starting
If I were to change lanes on a highway for example, I would have to counter-steer? Is there no way to lean the bike to where you want to go, without using the handlebars?
Because this is what I do when I ride bikes, I never find myself using the handlebars at high speeds.
It is very counter-intuitive isn't it...
alboman1 5 months ago
You can try it on a pedal bike, if your going fast enough it works
Mathius1337 5 months ago
yea but to make counter sterring work you'd have to tilt your bike too right?
Wikan95 5 months ago
...and if I press both grips forward, I do a wheelie, right?
Note2ybk 5 months ago
Why does it do that though?
hansaru 5 months ago
@hansaru Because motorcycle wheels are rounded and not flat. Look up other videos which show this on the outside. It's pretty easy though, and goes pretty natural. Just go fast on a bicycle and try it.
DavidSlagter 5 months ago
THIS EXPLAINS COUNTER STEERING AMAZINGLY: /watch?v=C848R9xWrjc
XxFlashTuTorialsxX 5 months ago
i am incredibly confused, u steer right and go left?!?!?!?
kittykat7210 5 months ago
@kittykat7210 Above 10km/hr yes....you turn the handlebars the opposite way you want to go.
13mordeth 5 months ago
@13mordeth Why does this happen?!? im just as confused as the next person...
jkdbjjconnection 5 months ago
@jkdbjjconnection Read my comment.
acoti 5 months ago
@13mordeth can u convert tht to m.p.h please?
MrFishingmaster30 4 months ago
@13mordeth I wouldn't say you "turn" the handle bars the opposite way you want to go, but more pull or push the bars the opposite way generate a force that then makes the bike lean in the direction of the turn you're trying to make. same exact thing that you see when the bike is leaned way down, but the front tire is facing straight while going through a corner.
mawkheaf 3 months ago
@13mordeth Unless you are in Russia. Just kidding
A5runner 3 months ago
@13mordeth that is if your pulling right? if you push right you still go right, correct?
sportsfan6776 3 months ago
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dannyvlsn 5 months ago
@kittykat7210 the reason it works is because the bike goes ''off balance'' and starts going the other way.
FuBarracuda 5 months ago
@kittykat7210
Just try it, and it becomes natural. If you just sit around and think about it, the fact that it is so counter-intuitive will just leave you perplexed.
opmike343 4 months ago
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manhunt3k 4 months ago
@kittykat7210
Basically , if u steer right , the bike leans left , and that makes u go left.
If u steer left , the bike leans right which makes u go right.
manhunt3k 4 months ago
Dang I wish I knew this when my friend let me ride his bike lol I ran into a mailbox =(
HRPCivicSi 5 months ago
holy crap i never knew that. so weird...
is that the same for scooters?
Lavalole 5 months ago
I so wish I had seen your video 2 days ago. Picked up a new Ninja, never ridden before, took it out, sweeping left hand corner, did the exact opposite to what you demonstrated and put it off the road into the grass. I had no idea lol, I just assumed turn wheel to left, go left. I was wrong. So, thank you for your video, I'll put what Ive learnt to good use. :)
TheWickedit 5 months ago
@TheWickedit that's a bit silly to buy a ninja for your first bike too, isn't it? :p
beebogroll 5 months ago
@TheWickedit dont you need a license before riddin a bike in your country? It would probably be worth takin one.
ThunderWindz 5 months ago
@ThunderWindz yeah Ive got the license, but it was only a theory test. Did do a pre-learner course but it was done at speeds <10km and the bloke didn't mention about counter-steering. Im just thankful that even though I came off, it was at a low speed and in the best possible conditions.
TheWickedit 5 months ago
@TheWickedit wow okay... in Denmark you need to have 25 hours theory lessons and 13 hours public road riddin (with speed up to 80miles/hour) + 9 hours closed road. After that you take a theory test and a test on road ^^. it's very expensive (2000$) and pretty hard, but good and secure way to learn it. :P
ThunderWindz 5 months ago
No you don't turn left and go right. You turn the handle bar left and lean with the bike to make it go right.
Teaching people this will make them not understand what is really happening and may lead to severe accidents i recommend watching professional rider's on closed courses and try to understand what is actually happening.
OriginalDowny 5 months ago
wow... maybe its just me, but that is a hard concept to grasp lol
StarBurn117 5 months ago
that shits stupid
.. countersteering ?
MrMONEYSOTA651 5 months ago