@AMIABRUZZO When the Reaganazi crowd swept office in 1980, they completely changed everything. They began the long process of completely bratifying America and simultaneously as much of the world as possible.
@AMIABRUZZO Well, you know, I've been thinking about that a lot lately, and I seem to recall that much of the spirit of the 70's came from certain bands that were out at the time, like ABBA and the Bee-Gees and Olivia Newton-John, and so on. And do you know where they were from? Sweden and Australia.
In fact, in general, as I pay closer attention to those cultures nowadays, I find that they endemically maintain that sense of life even to this day. So maybe it's those cultures.
@AMIABRUZZO You know, because my father was always moving us around when I was growing up, I always thought that I was forced to leave behind a special place that I had to get back to someday. But lately, after going back to those places, I wonder if it wasn't so much about the places, but about the period of time in our culture that I loved. I always longed for the places I lived from 1975 to 1978, but maybe things were just nicer during those times, period.
You're welcome. And, also, think about how low-tech everything was -- and where there wasn't even any technology. Life was MUCH more natural and comprehensible then. I blame most of this on the computer and engineering industries, and how they've gotten better at miniaturizing electronics and performing concealed, complicated functions. Somehow, the legions of Mordor have to be destroyed.
Music isn't about what you HEAR anymore, it's about what you SEE. i love old music, when music would tell a story to you and it was awesome. Now its just a robotic voice yelling at you. No talent. It seems that almost everything has changed, have you noticed how UGLY cars have gotten? Everybody has to dress like a gangsta now. Everyone's face is buried in their cell phones, you have to do everything with a phone now. But we don't have to participate, and I'm not!
I agree... things used to be much more low-tech, BUT they were much more understandable and relatable because of their simplicity. But at the same time, they cared about having flair, but not being severe and gaudy like what you see today.
It's like nowadays things are either completely subdued and effeminate, or gaudy and brutal -- there's no middle ground with just some flair and class.
@foreigner1996 Dude, the music you're talking about still exist, it just ain't as big and mainstream anymore. There are plenty of bands out there that have talent and puts music before anything.
And maybe America is the country that sucks nowadays, I don't know, but I do know that Sweden, where I live, is great and is nowhere near like they way you people are talking about.
The 10ths Sweden is great, America, I don't know. 2012 WOOOHO!
I'm 17 now, I only listen to music from the 50's, 60's, 70's & 80's some other music too, but that's not the point. The point is im trying to escape my generation. I can't stand the excesive beats and over use of techonogy. Rap has seriously currupted the minds of some of the people in my high school. People rob each other over drugs and start fights... honestly what is this become? I'd just rather listen to some 70's music maybe Frampton Comes Alive. Peace is the way I want things to be...
@ZiggyStardust11223 That's right -- you're after a cultural feeling, a general ethic. You won't get that after the 1980's, I'm afraid. I say that the 1970's was the best time to live, regardless of its problems -- which I think were mostly due to all the free-ranging CIA warhawk types.
The other thing about the seventies was the fact that people didn't live off credit cards, because it was HARD to get them. Now, everything is credit. It sucks.
The 70s were great times. There was absolutely NOTHING like going to a shopping mall at Christmas. There was Santa's Grotto and the reindeer and the whole experience was just wow! These days, lazy sods want to shop online instead of shopping in a proper market. The magic of malls is almost disappearing. I'm telling you, the internet has ruined everything. It has it's advantages but mostly, it's just ruined everything. This is why people are obese, rude and depressed.
@TheLogicJunkie Thanks :) I miss the 70s as well. The 60s-early 00s were all pretty good times. Until then there was a huge change in society and the internet took over.
I didn't enjoy the 80's much at all. I never liked the bratty meanness that was imposed upon the country when the Reagan-Bush clique of closet Nazis took the White House. If you weren't of that temperament naturally, you were forced to live on the fringes of society, and that temperament rules this country to this very day -- largely because George HW Bush is still alive, and he has used his lifelong CIA influence to rule this country (and the world) from the covert shadows.
@TheLogicJunkie What about the 90s? They were pretty good times. And the 80s weren't that bad. And I know you weren't born in the 60s but that was a really good time.
George Bush Senior was a Senile Old Moron who should have kept his 'Big Mouth Shut!' instead of creating cruelty in the 1980's America...then the 'WTC' would be still standing today!!! 8/
George Bush Senior was a Senile Old Moron who should have kept his 'Big Mouth Shut!' instead of creating cruelty in the 1980's America...then the 'WTC' would be still standing today!!! 8/
Pretty sure you guys are being stereotypical. You're no different from people in Europe calling all of Americans overweight people with no lives. You think that all modern day music contains Rap, Hip Hop, Pop, Screaming, etc., etc. You just need to actually find the good music. Stop complaining. Go listen to some Uncle Kracker, Rascal Flatts, Plain White T's. Something actually good. Turn off the damned radio if you're angry, you hippies.
Earlier today I was watching a compendium of 70's commercials: they featured, without exception, happy jingles. Now we see little more than the 'hard sell' of dominance and torture-porn. I wondered aloud how the ushering in of Political Correctness, the wimpification of kids, and the Self Esteem movement has resulted in a nation only interested in the basest desires and the darkest cruelties.
so true. I look at my kindergarten photos from the 70's and the kids looked so much more wholesome and natural. also look at the videos from the 70's of olivia newton john singing. she has such emotion and passion on her face. no one sings that way anymore today. Furthermore, the sci fi movies of the 70's were much more original and TV shows had better characters who were more genuine and likable.
The 70's were cool...I often find myself listening to the Bee Gees, Rose Royce, EWF, Isaac Hayes, and others late at night (they had good beats..great dancing music). The movies were great fun too...they will never make good horror movies like those 70s flicks ever again. The buddy movies were also good back in the day. Seems like those were relatively carefree days, but I wouldn't have wanted to be around before the 70s...seems like before the 70s, authoritarian figures had even more power.
We live on a huge planet with abundant resources...more than enough land and resources for everyone...if they were managed and distributed appropriately. However, since almost the beginning of the modern Western World, people have been subjected to bleak Malthusian theories concerning overpopulation and desperate, impossible competition. I believe there is a persistent fear in the Western World that someone, somewhere might be happy.
I agree, the 70s were the best. Cell phones, computers, new cars, and technology sucks. You made $20,00 and the government took $2,000. Now, you make $70,000 and the government takes $30,000. Muscle cars were the best, you could feel the power and know what you got. There were no cell phones to distract you. The age was better and more respectful, safer, and just nicer. That was America at its prime, and that's how it should always be.
Things were so much better back then its not even funny. God thats when America really was the promise land, kids played in the streets, you didnt have to have your parents with you to buy fireworks, people dressed more respectfull and more AWESOME, people were actually HUMAN,music was better,girls especially dressed more respectful. I mean im 15 and even i know that this is a crappy time were living in. LONG LIVE THE 1970's.
@TheLogicJunkie Just had to come out with the truth,I mean im in school and i see people dressing like common thugs,back then people dressed up because they respected themselves and wanted to look good, now people act like its a chore to dress decent.
While the '70s were before my time, I'm starting to miss the '90s (music, while not as good as the '70s, beats 21st Century stuff anyday!) The essence of what the '70s really were were finally fully examined in the '90s with those revivals and is how I came to appreciate the '70s. (In 1995, HDTV was in its infancy, the Internet was just starting to emerge, Eurodance/House was the '90s version of disco, most people still used regular phones, and movies still had "real stars and idols".
Finally, I'd like to bring up a new term. "Generation Me," which consists of young kids today to about people in their late 20's who have a huge sense of entitlement to everything. I remember growing up chopping wood, being happy and grateful with what little I had, shoveling snow and doing odd jobs for old people for $6 an hour and as I got older I ended up working with kids that told me they got paid $50 a week to clean their rooms! Kids like that make me believe the Generation Me thing.
I have nothing whatsoever in common with the vast majority of people today, young or old -- I think the entire society itself has been transformed, across the entire demographic spectrum, into an inescapably uniform super-organism of reptilian bratdom.
...In other words, everybody is being driven towards death, except for the reptilian brats, and they have basically become the soul life form.
@thetrophyone I agree.... I am just about to turn 30 and people my age, generally, are outright SHITTY. I was always an outcast because i didn't go out of my way to fit in with their shallow, mob mentality type of existence.... I think the 80's were still pretty good, compared with now. But i think my parents were very different than most kids'. I told my peers things i wasn't allowed to do and things i was expected to do and the kids acted astounded.
Also, for young children today, taking your time and enjoying being young is something that makes others look at you funny. Kids nowadays are forced to grow up way faster. I'd also like to add, that my senior year in high school, 2005, one of the teachers told me, "That many teachers noticed my class was the last decent one and the next ones seemed a lot more cocky and reckless." Keep in mind this was coming from someone who'd seen 20 some classes of kids pass through.
@thetrophyone - I'd also like to add, that my senior year in high school, 2005, one of the teachers told me, "That many teachers noticed my class was the last decent one and the next ones seemed a lot more cocky and reckless.""
Interesting, perhaps in 100 years, sociologists will look back and break this period of time down into two distinct groups, namely BI (Before Internet) and AI (After Internet). The internet is an amazing tool & source of entertainment, but it is not ideal for manners.
I just want to comment on a disturbing trend the past 12-24 months, where an increasing number of people never use any form of salutation in their email messages, not even informal name greeting. I am talking about business emails, and from adults, most of whom were using better etiquette and manners just 2 years ago. How long does it take to type the name of the sendee? Of course these people are never too busy to type their own name (with full credentials of course).
America has become about nothing but brattery. I'm completely sick of this country. Everywhere I go, I want to punch people in the face, for all the endless, in-your-face brattiness I see.
I was born in 1986, but I can say for sure some things have gone down hill over time. For example, remember when Saturday morning cartoons were a big deal and now there's really nothing on except lame Hanna Montana shows? Cartoons were on after school, too. Also, video games have gone from a hobby to a sport and have become more bland and violent. The urban trend has taken over clothing and everything is now gangsta. Kids clothing now has rhinestones and stuff like "Princess" written on it.
I like what you said about certain life circumstances influencing young kids to grow up to become a certain type of adult. My dad told me, a lot of the older people that were little during the great depression, grew up to be very cautious and very stingy with money. Which I've met older people like that, so I have no problem believing him. Sometimes I wonder if the circumstances in America now, will produce another generation of Americans that are stingy and cautious?
Everything society fought against, resisted and protested in the 70s, it's become..
Life was much simpler back then. People were much more open minded, down to earth, REAL. Unlike now
The 70's was innovative time for music, a great time to be alive. We were fighting for civil rights, end the war...We were alive, not culled with materialism & pharma wars. No restless leg syndrome bs or "politically correct" garbage.
In today's de-volved, corporatized "politically correct" TV mind control programmed times, we have amazing state of the art computer "technology", but the music SUCKS. Devoid of soul, passion & human emotion. Where is the love? It's all about hate, disunity & demonic undertones now.
We have more "medicine" than ever, but less wellness. More gadgets & techno widgets, but less understanding & communication. We've lost touch with NATURE -our essence & became industrialized, corporatized robots.
@rg2027x I'll laugh when Technology becomes what saves the Human race from a large-scale disaster. You can go hide beneath a tree, and see how that works out for you.
You know, there's a part in this one book I read called "The Sociopath Next Door" where it says that, in certain eskimo cultures, if they had a chronically evil, sneaky sociopath in their tribe who wouldn't work, who stole food and had sex with their wives behind their backs, they would invite him out for a "fun 'n' friendly" expedition, and then push him off the edge of a cliff or glacier when they were far from prying eyes.
TheLogicJunkie you articulate well,ALL that is wrong with our sick society today.I often reflect back on the 70s when I was a child and remember society was more morally balanced.People were not that de-sensitized to cruelty and violence and the message from school, home and media was to be kind to the vunerable.this was classed as honerable and u were rewarded for it.Nowadays they ridicoule it This pretence of being cold and cruel is propelling us into a increasingly alienated existence.
I don't know how old you are but if you were growing up in the 70's that would make sense why the music of that era has that edge towards you, because I am a child of the 80's and I still love all the 80's new wave/punk/industrial and even 80's pop! that was my era and the new generations that follow usually don't have a clue, they only have the bread crumbs of the generation before them to follow.
Well, I'm a huge fan of the Police. Not so much U2, though, although I do like their sound. I can just relate to the lyrics of the Police a lot more -- they're less cryptic to me.
And, yeah, I do feel sorry for the kids who had to grow up with the culture of the 90's, because so much of it was black-hearted nihilism. I think that the spectre of nuclear war kept people more humane before that; when the Berlin Wall came down, though, there was no death threat, and so people became it.
well I must say, the black-hearted nihilism you were hearing in the 90's for me, was drowned out by the enchanting psychedelic raw talent of the music I was listening to. Bands like Smashing Pumpkins, The Cranberries, Stone Temple Pilots, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden etc. Maybe you just haven't gotten hip to it yet ya jive turkey!
Would have to agree, the 70's and 80's were the best decades. The 50's were to surreal in a sort of straight laced Utopian way,the 60's were just chaotic. And if you weren't a white forget it.
The 70's and 80's still had that old school craftsmanship/creativity mixed in with burgeoning technologies that created a magical time where everything was new. Now everyone's seen it all, done it all. People are now longing for a simpler time, hence the retro obsession.
Good point -- there is a certain retro obsession now, and for good reason. Try going to a karaoke club sometime, and you'll see how so many of this new generation are actually students of the music from the 70's and early '80's. Just the other night, there was an emo girl singing "Rapture" by Blondie, and she'd done nothing but songs from that era all night.
I actually think it is the young people today (under 30) that are the most obsessed.
Sure in the 70's there was a 50's craze, and a also a 60's craze in the 80's (pop 60's not the real 60's). But nothing approaching the absolute retro obsession that we have today. There just seemed to be a lot more innovation back then, especially in the arts.
I consider the period from roughly 77 to 83 the absolute epitome.
@Leesh420 - I don't know how old you are but if you were growing up in the 70's that would make sense why the music of that era has that edge towards you, because I am a child of the 80's and I still love all the 80's new wave/punk/industrial and even 80's pop!
If I had to rate the decades for music (100 being best)
To me the '70s were the low point of the second half of the 20th Century; kind of a "light" version of the 2000s. Inflation was probably the worst thing about the decade; but culture (as shown here) was much more creative, human, and enjoyable. Of course, I was born in 1985 so I couldn't experience them (though I wish I was born in 1942 so I could just miss WWII, be a '50s teen, enjoy the '80s and '90s in mid-life and today be retired collecting pensions just before the system ran out!
I'm not quite sure. I'm not sure the extent to which society is obediently steered by cryptic manipulators, or if people just get bored of any one end of the pendulum, and crave to move in the other direction.
I really like the general message you give here. If you take an ordinary decent human being, kind, has a sense of right and wrong, and is content to be ordinary, to live free from extremes and chaos. That man is seen as dull, boring, stupid, archaic, opressive, backwards thinking. This is really making sense to me. The decade I've been nostalgic of lately is the 50's, before radical mass movements, before feminism and all forms of political correctness. When all women wore dresses
Good point. In the actual 1970s, many people were NOSTALGIC for the '50s; the decade I particularly nostalgic for a young man in my mid-20s is the '80s (even though I only really experienced 1989) as many '50s references were still frequently found there; plus it was still pre-Internet and pre-cellphone, which meant that communication still had to be human (with some light computer technology); that decade was not too simple but not too high-tech (Just the right amout of technology for me.)
I personally don't think anything to do with human beings is ever accidental. I think human beings are naturally creatures of rampant conspiracy, malignant or benevolent.
You are 100% on the money with that statement. What I find interesting though is that even armed with that knowledge people still have difficulty over-coming nature. Like everything else in the universe though, the path of least resistance is always preferable.
I just don't understand The Conspiracy to Discredit the Notion of Conspiracy Itself. After all, what person of character would deny that we human beings maintain all our traditions through the active, incessant conspiracy that is culture itself?
I don't see what people think they're ever going to gain by actively striving to sabotage any and all movements of logical honesty. I doubt seriously it's a lack of imagination; rather, I think they fear the death of imaginative cultural scheming.
I have noticed that you like to mention "our country" whenever referring to a strange occurence (such as the hatred of disco). Remember that other countries are not exempt from these negative social anomalies. I have listened to other people in other countries and a lot of them are meaner and more shallow than we are. I have heard so many prejudices and the like in other countries which demanded you be a certain person. So before you leave the country, don't think that everywhere else is utopic.
No problem. As much as I despise most of the people in this country, I have come to hate people from many other countries even more (no offense if you're a reasonable non-American). So far, I'm somewhat content knowing I'm sitting it out in the least of all evils. If you're having a problem with society, find another misanthrope with whom you can exchange sentiments. I have found that person and it makes my life a lot easier knowing that I'm not alone in my strange, "freakish" ideals.
lol. and yes this whole anti-mainstream is really pointless. it's the pack-heard, sheep-like, go-with-the-flow mentality. There's a reason it's "mainstream" or popular. The subject matter obviously strikes a chord in people. some guy who dissents for the sake of being cool, which is strange. then he spreads that it's cool to not like something. that's what bothers me; there's so much reservation about what you like, or expressing such. everyone worries whether or not it will be accepted.
huh thought i commented on this earlery, i guess i'll just repeat myself
i heard a Charo album last week, i actully liked it
i worked with a radio station for lil while and they been around since the late 70's and back then their mroning show gave away d.r.e.a.d. cards (Detroit Rockers Engaged in the Abolition of Disco) i wasn't around but from what these older rockers that still proudly show off their dread cards say disco was the pop music that rockers hated them.cards on ebay 4 25 bucks
i am a child of the 60's & 70's. personal responsibility left in the 80's. disco was said to suck WHILE disco was happening. i never thought it sucked. some of it, yeah. but not all. people were alot more present to each other back then. however, there was alot more sexism, racism... "I haven't been alive for years" - i beg to differ. you're VERy much alive & well imho.
Well, thanks for the compliment, but I used to be carefree and happy, and then the world just got cold and ugly for no apparent reason.
Finally, if there was more racism and sexism back then, at least people were conscious of it... they actually gave a damn. Hardly anybody gives a damn about anything important anymore, and the practice of any sort of moral courage is mocked and extinguished.
Yo LogicJunkee, Im a child of the late 80's and i would have to agree with you once again. To be honest with you, i get the feeling that not only me but the world is in this type of low level slump as if everyones carrying a black cloud over there head. Ive been aware of the many economic, and government troubles thats been increaseing happening. but this is different, it just dont feel right. like 100 monkey syndrome on a wide scale for depression and anger. Glad you posted Keep em coming
I never experienced the 70's. I grew up with the mass consumerist culture of the 80s. The only experience I have is that terrible TV show with "Kelso".
Oh, I see what you mean. Well, if you want to experience the '70's, check out shows like "All in the Family", "Sanford and Son" and "What's Happening", just to name a few. Those were good times.
@AMIABRUZZO When the Reaganazi crowd swept office in 1980, they completely changed everything. They began the long process of completely bratifying America and simultaneously as much of the world as possible.
TheLogicJunkie 1 month ago
@AMIABRUZZO Well, you know, I've been thinking about that a lot lately, and I seem to recall that much of the spirit of the 70's came from certain bands that were out at the time, like ABBA and the Bee-Gees and Olivia Newton-John, and so on. And do you know where they were from? Sweden and Australia.
In fact, in general, as I pay closer attention to those cultures nowadays, I find that they endemically maintain that sense of life even to this day. So maybe it's those cultures.
TheLogicJunkie 1 month ago
@AMIABRUZZO You know, because my father was always moving us around when I was growing up, I always thought that I was forced to leave behind a special place that I had to get back to someday. But lately, after going back to those places, I wonder if it wasn't so much about the places, but about the period of time in our culture that I loved. I always longed for the places I lived from 1975 to 1978, but maybe things were just nicer during those times, period.
TheLogicJunkie 1 month ago
You're welcome. And, also, think about how low-tech everything was -- and where there wasn't even any technology. Life was MUCH more natural and comprehensible then. I blame most of this on the computer and engineering industries, and how they've gotten better at miniaturizing electronics and performing concealed, complicated functions. Somehow, the legions of Mordor have to be destroyed.
TheLogicJunkie 1 month ago
@TheLogicJunkie Yes yes exactly!!
vmr2017 1 week ago
Music isn't about what you HEAR anymore, it's about what you SEE. i love old music, when music would tell a story to you and it was awesome. Now its just a robotic voice yelling at you. No talent. It seems that almost everything has changed, have you noticed how UGLY cars have gotten? Everybody has to dress like a gangsta now. Everyone's face is buried in their cell phones, you have to do everything with a phone now. But we don't have to participate, and I'm not!
foreigner1996 1 month ago 2
I agree... things used to be much more low-tech, BUT they were much more understandable and relatable because of their simplicity. But at the same time, they cared about having flair, but not being severe and gaudy like what you see today.
It's like nowadays things are either completely subdued and effeminate, or gaudy and brutal -- there's no middle ground with just some flair and class.
TheLogicJunkie 1 month ago
@foreigner1996 Dude, the music you're talking about still exist, it just ain't as big and mainstream anymore. There are plenty of bands out there that have talent and puts music before anything.
And maybe America is the country that sucks nowadays, I don't know, but I do know that Sweden, where I live, is great and is nowhere near like they way you people are talking about.
The 10ths Sweden is great, America, I don't know. 2012 WOOOHO!
TheRitchardgaleHater 18 hours ago
I'm 17 now, I only listen to music from the 50's, 60's, 70's & 80's some other music too, but that's not the point. The point is im trying to escape my generation. I can't stand the excesive beats and over use of techonogy. Rap has seriously currupted the minds of some of the people in my high school. People rob each other over drugs and start fights... honestly what is this become? I'd just rather listen to some 70's music maybe Frampton Comes Alive. Peace is the way I want things to be...
ZiggyStardust11223 1 month ago in playlist Logic Junkie
@ZiggyStardust11223 That's right -- you're after a cultural feeling, a general ethic. You won't get that after the 1980's, I'm afraid. I say that the 1970's was the best time to live, regardless of its problems -- which I think were mostly due to all the free-ranging CIA warhawk types.
TheLogicJunkie 1 month ago
The other thing about the seventies was the fact that people didn't live off credit cards, because it was HARD to get them. Now, everything is credit. It sucks.
Antiks72 1 month ago
The 70s were great times. There was absolutely NOTHING like going to a shopping mall at Christmas. There was Santa's Grotto and the reindeer and the whole experience was just wow! These days, lazy sods want to shop online instead of shopping in a proper market. The magic of malls is almost disappearing. I'm telling you, the internet has ruined everything. It has it's advantages but mostly, it's just ruined everything. This is why people are obese, rude and depressed.
boffinme80 3 months ago
You are totally correct... I agree completely....
TheLogicJunkie 3 months ago
@TheLogicJunkie Thanks :) I miss the 70s as well. The 60s-early 00s were all pretty good times. Until then there was a huge change in society and the internet took over.
boffinme80 3 months ago
I didn't enjoy the 80's much at all. I never liked the bratty meanness that was imposed upon the country when the Reagan-Bush clique of closet Nazis took the White House. If you weren't of that temperament naturally, you were forced to live on the fringes of society, and that temperament rules this country to this very day -- largely because George HW Bush is still alive, and he has used his lifelong CIA influence to rule this country (and the world) from the covert shadows.
TheLogicJunkie 3 months ago
@TheLogicJunkie What about the 90s? They were pretty good times. And the 80s weren't that bad. And I know you weren't born in the 60s but that was a really good time.
boffinme80 3 months ago
I think you're right. I wish I had a time machine too. :(
Donatellangelo 5 months ago
George Bush Senior was a Senile Old Moron who should have kept his 'Big Mouth Shut!' instead of creating cruelty in the 1980's America...then the 'WTC' would be still standing today!!! 8/
TerryYonkaActor 6 months ago
George Bush Senior was a Senile Old Moron who should have kept his 'Big Mouth Shut!' instead of creating cruelty in the 1980's America...then the 'WTC' would be still standing today!!! 8/
TerryYonkaActor 6 months ago
@TerryYonkaActor Have you read Russ Baker's "Family of Secrets"?
TheLogicJunkie 6 months ago
the 70s was a great time to be young. i was a small child then and my husband later on was a young adult, we were fortunate to be young then
sylviabeth2 8 months ago
Pretty sure you guys are being stereotypical. You're no different from people in Europe calling all of Americans overweight people with no lives. You think that all modern day music contains Rap, Hip Hop, Pop, Screaming, etc., etc. You just need to actually find the good music. Stop complaining. Go listen to some Uncle Kracker, Rascal Flatts, Plain White T's. Something actually good. Turn off the damned radio if you're angry, you hippies.
JohnForester15 9 months ago
Without a doubt: the 70s were far better than now. Not even close.
rfwelsh 10 months ago
@rfwelsh Hippies and wars. Fun Fun Fun.
JohnForester15 9 months ago
Earlier today I was watching a compendium of 70's commercials: they featured, without exception, happy jingles. Now we see little more than the 'hard sell' of dominance and torture-porn. I wondered aloud how the ushering in of Political Correctness, the wimpification of kids, and the Self Esteem movement has resulted in a nation only interested in the basest desires and the darkest cruelties.
Bread and circuses, once again.
heavenseek 10 months ago
so true. I look at my kindergarten photos from the 70's and the kids looked so much more wholesome and natural. also look at the videos from the 70's of olivia newton john singing. she has such emotion and passion on her face. no one sings that way anymore today. Furthermore, the sci fi movies of the 70's were much more original and TV shows had better characters who were more genuine and likable.
GlobalDating 10 months ago 3
@GlobalDating I like the way you think.
TheLogicJunkie 10 months ago
@GlobalDating All of what you just said was true. I am from that era. Also check my Music Sucks before 2000 video if you get the chance.
MrVeesworld 10 months ago
@MrVeesworld Will do.
TheLogicJunkie 10 months ago
I here my folks stories from when they were my age, and i want to jump in a time machine so damned bad!!
sandythebear 11 months ago 3
Get together with some of your friends, get some money together, and start a warehouse disco club!
TheLogicJunkie 10 months ago
@TheLogicJunkie Possibilities :)
sandythebear 10 months ago
I here my folks stories from when they were my age, and i want to jump in a time machine so damned bad!!!!!!!!!
sandythebear 11 months ago
I personally like building computers and getting good deals. in 70s i can't do that.
volure1 11 months ago
@volure1 Of course you could and you would have learned a LOT more about them too. There were a lot of hobby kits, especially early 80s.
maccagrabme 4 days ago
To be honest i would not like to be in the 70s. Not because i hate it i do like the music is catchy. I like the cheap computer age these days.
volure1 11 months ago
The 70's were cool...I often find myself listening to the Bee Gees, Rose Royce, EWF, Isaac Hayes, and others late at night (they had good beats..great dancing music). The movies were great fun too...they will never make good horror movies like those 70s flicks ever again. The buddy movies were also good back in the day. Seems like those were relatively carefree days, but I wouldn't have wanted to be around before the 70s...seems like before the 70s, authoritarian figures had even more power.
saintgauden 1 year ago
We live on a huge planet with abundant resources...more than enough land and resources for everyone...if they were managed and distributed appropriately. However, since almost the beginning of the modern Western World, people have been subjected to bleak Malthusian theories concerning overpopulation and desperate, impossible competition. I believe there is a persistent fear in the Western World that someone, somewhere might be happy.
saintgauden 1 year ago
do you miss the 80's
Pentazoid111 1 year ago
Yes, but not as much as the 70's.
TheLogicJunkie 1 year ago
@TheLogicJunkie wow so im hearing this from a 70s veteran and not a little kid of 17 years old.
jamirosmajicrocks 10 months ago
I think you can be a great actor. I say this in positive way.
aprilrosemusic 1 year ago
Thanks.
TheLogicJunkie 1 year ago
I agree, the 70s were the best. Cell phones, computers, new cars, and technology sucks. You made $20,00 and the government took $2,000. Now, you make $70,000 and the government takes $30,000. Muscle cars were the best, you could feel the power and know what you got. There were no cell phones to distract you. The age was better and more respectful, safer, and just nicer. That was America at its prime, and that's how it should always be.
majordave223 1 year ago
I agrre with you. sadly, my dad was only 5 during 1970
FuyuAkiWorld 1 year ago
Things were so much better back then its not even funny. God thats when America really was the promise land, kids played in the streets, you didnt have to have your parents with you to buy fireworks, people dressed more respectfull and more AWESOME, people were actually HUMAN,music was better,girls especially dressed more respectful. I mean im 15 and even i know that this is a crappy time were living in. LONG LIVE THE 1970's.
stojy161994 1 year ago 10
Woo hoo!!!
TheLogicJunkie 1 year ago
@TheLogicJunkie Just had to come out with the truth,I mean im in school and i see people dressing like common thugs,back then people dressed up because they respected themselves and wanted to look good, now people act like its a chore to dress decent.
stojy161994 1 year ago
@stojy161994 Exactly my thoughts!
vmr2017 1 week ago
While the '70s were before my time, I'm starting to miss the '90s (music, while not as good as the '70s, beats 21st Century stuff anyday!) The essence of what the '70s really were were finally fully examined in the '90s with those revivals and is how I came to appreciate the '70s. (In 1995, HDTV was in its infancy, the Internet was just starting to emerge, Eurodance/House was the '90s version of disco, most people still used regular phones, and movies still had "real stars and idols".
pannoni1 2 years ago
@pannoni1
No; being a teen in the late 90s sucked and nobody remembers that fondly.
SUpersaiyajinjerkbag 11 months ago
Finally, I'd like to bring up a new term. "Generation Me," which consists of young kids today to about people in their late 20's who have a huge sense of entitlement to everything. I remember growing up chopping wood, being happy and grateful with what little I had, shoveling snow and doing odd jobs for old people for $6 an hour and as I got older I ended up working with kids that told me they got paid $50 a week to clean their rooms! Kids like that make me believe the Generation Me thing.
thetrophyone 2 years ago
I have nothing whatsoever in common with the vast majority of people today, young or old -- I think the entire society itself has been transformed, across the entire demographic spectrum, into an inescapably uniform super-organism of reptilian bratdom.
...In other words, everybody is being driven towards death, except for the reptilian brats, and they have basically become the soul life form.
TheLogicJunkie 2 years ago
@thetrophyone I agree.... I am just about to turn 30 and people my age, generally, are outright SHITTY. I was always an outcast because i didn't go out of my way to fit in with their shallow, mob mentality type of existence.... I think the 80's were still pretty good, compared with now. But i think my parents were very different than most kids'. I told my peers things i wasn't allowed to do and things i was expected to do and the kids acted astounded.
mandaJt 1 year ago
Also, for young children today, taking your time and enjoying being young is something that makes others look at you funny. Kids nowadays are forced to grow up way faster. I'd also like to add, that my senior year in high school, 2005, one of the teachers told me, "That many teachers noticed my class was the last decent one and the next ones seemed a lot more cocky and reckless." Keep in mind this was coming from someone who'd seen 20 some classes of kids pass through.
thetrophyone 2 years ago
@thetrophyone - I'd also like to add, that my senior year in high school, 2005, one of the teachers told me, "That many teachers noticed my class was the last decent one and the next ones seemed a lot more cocky and reckless.""
Interesting, perhaps in 100 years, sociologists will look back and break this period of time down into two distinct groups, namely BI (Before Internet) and AI (After Internet). The internet is an amazing tool & source of entertainment, but it is not ideal for manners.
CCRider100 1 year ago
I just want to comment on a disturbing trend the past 12-24 months, where an increasing number of people never use any form of salutation in their email messages, not even informal name greeting. I am talking about business emails, and from adults, most of whom were using better etiquette and manners just 2 years ago. How long does it take to type the name of the sendee? Of course these people are never too busy to type their own name (with full credentials of course).
Pet peeve
CCRider100 1 year ago
America has become about nothing but brattery. I'm completely sick of this country. Everywhere I go, I want to punch people in the face, for all the endless, in-your-face brattiness I see.
TheLogicJunkie 1 year ago
I was born in 1986, but I can say for sure some things have gone down hill over time. For example, remember when Saturday morning cartoons were a big deal and now there's really nothing on except lame Hanna Montana shows? Cartoons were on after school, too. Also, video games have gone from a hobby to a sport and have become more bland and violent. The urban trend has taken over clothing and everything is now gangsta. Kids clothing now has rhinestones and stuff like "Princess" written on it.
thetrophyone 2 years ago
I like what you said about certain life circumstances influencing young kids to grow up to become a certain type of adult. My dad told me, a lot of the older people that were little during the great depression, grew up to be very cautious and very stingy with money. Which I've met older people like that, so I have no problem believing him. Sometimes I wonder if the circumstances in America now, will produce another generation of Americans that are stingy and cautious?
thetrophyone 2 years ago
Everything society fought against, resisted and protested in the 70s, it's become..
Life was much simpler back then. People were much more open minded, down to earth, REAL. Unlike now
The 70's was innovative time for music, a great time to be alive. We were fighting for civil rights, end the war...We were alive, not culled with materialism & pharma wars. No restless leg syndrome bs or "politically correct" garbage.
It's become appallingly clear
that our technology
has surpassed our humanity..
rg2027x 2 years ago 3
*wild applause*
TheLogicJunkie 2 years ago
In today's de-volved, corporatized "politically correct" TV mind control programmed times, we have amazing state of the art computer "technology", but the music SUCKS. Devoid of soul, passion & human emotion. Where is the love? It's all about hate, disunity & demonic undertones now.
We have more "medicine" than ever, but less wellness. More gadgets & techno widgets, but less understanding & communication. We've lost touch with NATURE -our essence & became industrialized, corporatized robots.
rg2027x 2 years ago 15
*more wild applause*
TheLogicJunkie 2 years ago
@rg2027x LEDZEPPELIN ROCKS!
jamirosmajicrocks 10 months ago
@rg2027x I'll laugh when Technology becomes what saves the Human race from a large-scale disaster. You can go hide beneath a tree, and see how that works out for you.
JohnForester15 9 months ago
@rg2027x Could you imagine All in Family piloting today? Would never happen.
Antiks72 1 month ago
I laughed at the "Smoldering Crater" bit. It's so true.
JDaragonH 2 years ago
Yeah.
You know, there's a part in this one book I read called "The Sociopath Next Door" where it says that, in certain eskimo cultures, if they had a chronically evil, sneaky sociopath in their tribe who wouldn't work, who stole food and had sex with their wives behind their backs, they would invite him out for a "fun 'n' friendly" expedition, and then push him off the edge of a cliff or glacier when they were far from prying eyes.
That's what's missing in our culture.
TheLogicJunkie 2 years ago
The 70's had problems trust me, as did the 60's 50 30 and 20's!
Mythologising childhood is never a good way to view the past.
HyperColours 2 years ago
@HyperColours tru but you can NEVER compare what went on back then to stuff hat goes on now, in the 70s being a kid was much more fun
stojy161994 1 year ago
@stojy161994 It's true -- nowadays kids can't even play outside much, because of the constant fear of some evil psycho abducting them.
TheLogicJunkie 6 months ago
@TheLogicJunkie Hell yeah man!
stojy161994 6 months ago
TheLogicJunkie you articulate well,ALL that is wrong with our sick society today.I often reflect back on the 70s when I was a child and remember society was more morally balanced.People were not that de-sensitized to cruelty and violence and the message from school, home and media was to be kind to the vunerable.this was classed as honerable and u were rewarded for it.Nowadays they ridicoule it This pretence of being cold and cruel is propelling us into a increasingly alienated existence.
kehkehbia 2 years ago
Dude, you have hit the nail on the head perfectly.
Have a nice day :)
Sonovox01 2 years ago
80's best boards of canada the childrens prison took me
da2freestylebois 2 years ago
I don't know how old you are but if you were growing up in the 70's that would make sense why the music of that era has that edge towards you, because I am a child of the 80's and I still love all the 80's new wave/punk/industrial and even 80's pop! that was my era and the new generations that follow usually don't have a clue, they only have the bread crumbs of the generation before them to follow.
Leesh420 2 years ago
Well, I'm a huge fan of the Police. Not so much U2, though, although I do like their sound. I can just relate to the lyrics of the Police a lot more -- they're less cryptic to me.
And, yeah, I do feel sorry for the kids who had to grow up with the culture of the 90's, because so much of it was black-hearted nihilism. I think that the spectre of nuclear war kept people more humane before that; when the Berlin Wall came down, though, there was no death threat, and so people became it.
TheLogicJunkie 2 years ago
...That's what I think, anyways.
TheLogicJunkie 2 years ago
well I must say, the black-hearted nihilism you were hearing in the 90's for me, was drowned out by the enchanting psychedelic raw talent of the music I was listening to. Bands like Smashing Pumpkins, The Cranberries, Stone Temple Pilots, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden etc. Maybe you just haven't gotten hip to it yet ya jive turkey!
Leesh420 2 years ago
Well, I actually really like the song "Ava Adore"...
TheLogicJunkie 2 years ago
Would have to agree, the 70's and 80's were the best decades. The 50's were to surreal in a sort of straight laced Utopian way,the 60's were just chaotic. And if you weren't a white forget it.
The 70's and 80's still had that old school craftsmanship/creativity mixed in with burgeoning technologies that created a magical time where everything was new. Now everyone's seen it all, done it all. People are now longing for a simpler time, hence the retro obsession.
malikstarks 2 years ago
Good point -- there is a certain retro obsession now, and for good reason. Try going to a karaoke club sometime, and you'll see how so many of this new generation are actually students of the music from the 70's and early '80's. Just the other night, there was an emo girl singing "Rapture" by Blondie, and she'd done nothing but songs from that era all night.
TheLogicJunkie 2 years ago
I actually think it is the young people today (under 30) that are the most obsessed.
Sure in the 70's there was a 50's craze, and a also a 60's craze in the 80's (pop 60's not the real 60's). But nothing approaching the absolute retro obsession that we have today. There just seemed to be a lot more innovation back then, especially in the arts.
I consider the period from roughly 77 to 83 the absolute epitome.
malikstarks 2 years ago
I'm pretty close to agreeing with you.
TheLogicJunkie 2 years ago
@Leesh420 - I don't know how old you are but if you were growing up in the 70's that would make sense why the music of that era has that edge towards you, because I am a child of the 80's and I still love all the 80's new wave/punk/industrial and even 80's pop!
If I had to rate the decades for music (100 being best)
1. 1980's - 100
2. 1970's - 98
3. 1990's - 85
4. 1960's - 75
5. 2000's - 10
CCRider100 1 year ago
@CCRider100 But I think that, in terms of tranquility and lyrical substance, the 70's beat the 80's...
TheLogicJunkie 6 months ago
To me the '70s were the low point of the second half of the 20th Century; kind of a "light" version of the 2000s. Inflation was probably the worst thing about the decade; but culture (as shown here) was much more creative, human, and enjoyable. Of course, I was born in 1985 so I couldn't experience them (though I wish I was born in 1942 so I could just miss WWII, be a '50s teen, enjoy the '80s and '90s in mid-life and today be retired collecting pensions just before the system ran out!
pannoni1 3 years ago 2
*LOL* I've never thought of it that way... You're thinking in terms of pensions!
TheLogicJunkie 2 years ago
when do you think things started going downhill?
joepulliam1 3 years ago
I'm not quite sure. I'm not sure the extent to which society is obediently steered by cryptic manipulators, or if people just get bored of any one end of the pendulum, and crave to move in the other direction.
TheLogicJunkie 3 years ago
I really like the general message you give here. If you take an ordinary decent human being, kind, has a sense of right and wrong, and is content to be ordinary, to live free from extremes and chaos. That man is seen as dull, boring, stupid, archaic, opressive, backwards thinking. This is really making sense to me. The decade I've been nostalgic of lately is the 50's, before radical mass movements, before feminism and all forms of political correctness. When all women wore dresses
heyyoubeindthebushes 3 years ago
Good point. In the actual 1970s, many people were NOSTALGIC for the '50s; the decade I particularly nostalgic for a young man in my mid-20s is the '80s (even though I only really experienced 1989) as many '50s references were still frequently found there; plus it was still pre-Internet and pre-cellphone, which meant that communication still had to be human (with some light computer technology); that decade was not too simple but not too high-tech (Just the right amout of technology for me.)
pannoni1 3 years ago
It's likely by design; the changes in social attitudes as of late.
irszgatti 3 years ago
I personally don't think anything to do with human beings is ever accidental. I think human beings are naturally creatures of rampant conspiracy, malignant or benevolent.
TheLogicJunkie 3 years ago
You are 100% on the money with that statement. What I find interesting though is that even armed with that knowledge people still have difficulty over-coming nature. Like everything else in the universe though, the path of least resistance is always preferable.
irszgatti 3 years ago
I just don't understand The Conspiracy to Discredit the Notion of Conspiracy Itself. After all, what person of character would deny that we human beings maintain all our traditions through the active, incessant conspiracy that is culture itself?
I don't see what people think they're ever going to gain by actively striving to sabotage any and all movements of logical honesty. I doubt seriously it's a lack of imagination; rather, I think they fear the death of imaginative cultural scheming.
TheLogicJunkie 3 years ago
hahahahahaha
TheLogicJunkie 3 years ago
I have noticed that you like to mention "our country" whenever referring to a strange occurence (such as the hatred of disco). Remember that other countries are not exempt from these negative social anomalies. I have listened to other people in other countries and a lot of them are meaner and more shallow than we are. I have heard so many prejudices and the like in other countries which demanded you be a certain person. So before you leave the country, don't think that everywhere else is utopic.
thehmmmm 3 years ago
Yes; you make a good point. Thank you.
TheLogicJunkie 3 years ago
No problem. As much as I despise most of the people in this country, I have come to hate people from many other countries even more (no offense if you're a reasonable non-American). So far, I'm somewhat content knowing I'm sitting it out in the least of all evils. If you're having a problem with society, find another misanthrope with whom you can exchange sentiments. I have found that person and it makes my life a lot easier knowing that I'm not alone in my strange, "freakish" ideals.
thehmmmm 3 years ago
Whoever you are, I love you... I honestly love you.
*LOL*
TheLogicJunkie 3 years ago
lol. and yes this whole anti-mainstream is really pointless. it's the pack-heard, sheep-like, go-with-the-flow mentality. There's a reason it's "mainstream" or popular. The subject matter obviously strikes a chord in people. some guy who dissents for the sake of being cool, which is strange. then he spreads that it's cool to not like something. that's what bothers me; there's so much reservation about what you like, or expressing such. everyone worries whether or not it will be accepted.
thehmmmm 3 years ago
huh thought i commented on this earlery, i guess i'll just repeat myself
i heard a Charo album last week, i actully liked it
i worked with a radio station for lil while and they been around since the late 70's and back then their mroning show gave away d.r.e.a.d. cards (Detroit Rockers Engaged in the Abolition of Disco) i wasn't around but from what these older rockers that still proudly show off their dread cards say disco was the pop music that rockers hated them.cards on ebay 4 25 bucks
toadenk 3 years ago
I think people who hate disco, hate disco because they don't think they can dance, and disco warrants dancing.
TheLogicJunkie 3 years ago
Good times they were..I am also a 70's child.:D
ruru11773 3 years ago
You should have your own radio show.
I enjoyed listening to you.
Dave.
dgcmusi 3 years ago
Woo hoo!
TheLogicJunkie 3 years ago
i like that idea, hey logic junkie you wanna podcast together i could put somthing together
toadenk 3 years ago
How do you do that?
TheLogicJunkie 3 years ago
Like a Rhinestone Cowboy
Donkeyhawk 3 years ago
Glenn Campbell's Greatest Hits was the very first album I ever owned, at five years old. It was a Christmas present from my parents.
TheLogicJunkie 3 years ago
i am a child of the 60's & 70's. personal responsibility left in the 80's. disco was said to suck WHILE disco was happening. i never thought it sucked. some of it, yeah. but not all. people were alot more present to each other back then. however, there was alot more sexism, racism... "I haven't been alive for years" - i beg to differ. you're VERy much alive & well imho.
dubaiedge 3 years ago
Well, thanks for the compliment, but I used to be carefree and happy, and then the world just got cold and ugly for no apparent reason.
Finally, if there was more racism and sexism back then, at least people were conscious of it... they actually gave a damn. Hardly anybody gives a damn about anything important anymore, and the practice of any sort of moral courage is mocked and extinguished.
TheLogicJunkie 3 years ago
Yo LogicJunkee, Im a child of the late 80's and i would have to agree with you once again. To be honest with you, i get the feeling that not only me but the world is in this type of low level slump as if everyones carrying a black cloud over there head. Ive been aware of the many economic, and government troubles thats been increaseing happening. but this is different, it just dont feel right. like 100 monkey syndrome on a wide scale for depression and anger. Glad you posted Keep em coming
djdevil0000 3 years ago
Yeah, I hate to say it, but I think that entire generation from the 1980's onward got some pretty twisted moral calibration.
TheLogicJunkie 3 years ago
I never experienced the 70's. I grew up with the mass consumerist culture of the 80s. The only experience I have is that terrible TV show with "Kelso".
ozjthomas 3 years ago
Oh, I see what you mean. Well, if you want to experience the '70's, check out shows like "All in the Family", "Sanford and Son" and "What's Happening", just to name a few. Those were good times.
TheLogicJunkie 3 years ago