The End of the Line - Fish Farming

[nmfvideo]

If you are interested in seeing how fish farms affect the sea floor, then have a look at this film, (which we filmed with our mini-sub) from under a fish farm in Norway and at some of our other videos. When the sea floor is white as it is in this video it is unhealthy and dead.

The film is called: Undervannsopptak: Signsholmen

[pappasierra]

Some gross over-generalisations made. Yes, single largest component in most fish diet products is fishmeal, however, much is also utilised from waste products of processed wild and farmed fish. Additionally, much research is underway in utilising plant based proteins derived from plants like soya to minimise reliance on fishmeal products. Best solution IMO is the closing of the nutrient cycle, starting with farming algae, fed to baitfish, fed to platefish, increasing trophic levels in stages.

[Folkboat11]

It may be the end of the line for the so called Alaska fishery. Want Wild? Alaska Seafood Processing creates dead zones

September 28, 2011

Trident Seafoods Corp. to Pay $2.5 Million to Resolve Clean Water Act Violations and Spend More Than $30 Million to Upgrade Processing PlantsSettlement to reduce discharges of seafood...

[StephanieLisaTara]

HAIKU

I hatch! Crawl! And swim!

Oh how I love my sweet life,

Please don’t hunt me.

—A Green Sea Turtle

[donze52]

thanks I had no idea of this subject of the problems, the News always paint

a wonderful picuture,

donze52 channel will post this as a favorite in hopes to spread the word.

[pac6010]

Ya and without fish farms and livestock ranches to grow us fish and meat we (humans) would rape the wild populations of anything edible in a matter of months. Sad truth is without these giant fishing industry's setting up controlled breeding we would destroy our natural resources. We are a very short sided and minded creature and it shows.

[PinkProgram]

Aquaponics are the wave of the future :3 Symbiotic farming on a massive scale :) It should minimize the harm to wild fish populations if done properly ^_^ You can use fish grown on algae and plant waste to feed the carnivorous stock fish. Growing tissue in a bioreactor will also relieve some pressure :D

[Folkboat11]

Save the wild? fish them and only eat wild? that does not add up. Thats what the U.S. did to the?

[MrLittletomdj]

The highest two rated comments seem so fucked up! Firstly I don't care if Alexandra Morton has no credentials she's indentified & witnessed (first hand) a problem. She may have made bad predictions but that doesn't diminsh her concerns at all. Folkboat11 wieghs up the lesser of 2 evils, feeding fish to cows, chicken & pigs is backward as fuck anyway. This is an issue & it's very real. It will destroy entire ecosystems.

[LEFTFIELD2011]

Tilapia is a sustainable fish. It can be grown on vegetable protein and not fish!

[astrialkil]

@LEFTFIELD2011 go tasteless Tilapia ! I can feed you my garden crap ! They should just feed fish insects! stink bugs and cock roaches are plentiful !

[Thetrutv]

Man this world is full of problems and it's making me sick!

[Blueoriontiger]

@Thetrutv I know. My Japanese classmate voiced her concerns about that as well. My three word answer to her:

"Move to space."

I made her day to say the least.

[dnlcone]

It really is a disappointment to my soul when people say "The west" and they really mean the United States

[unbosch]

I'm VEGETARIEN since 1989! 

[Folkboat11]

@unbosch Tell us how much land and water your habit takes up. Are you realy any better for the environment from what you eat?

[Folkboat11]

To see the impacts of the envronmentalist creationists in BC Google"A charity with plenty of very long tentacles". We are being Americanized.

"They are de facto political organizations in B.C.," he says. "They're distorting the balance of power where a few people control these huge amounts of money that flow in from the U.S." And, he believes the growing impact of environmental groups is only hurting British Columbia's economic potential".

[phuck66]

Of course , Dutch owned! They could care less if they kill off all the Salmon in BC, I didn't see one native that works there--if there is, they dont have a spirit, money is the way of Greed and corruption! dont believe me, look at Wallstreet and the resession! Greed man, just fuckin greedy--Canada was the least hit of all, thank the spirits for our unspoiled land! I'm a cannery labourer in Rupert at Canfisco, so yes we rely on the fish.

[mynor4596]

That...I didn't see it coming. I know fish retail all my life and never stop to think about it...It makes sense. But In this crucial times of such of bad economy, stop now we can not afford.

[Folkboat11]

@mynor4596 40% goes to growing fish. The other 60% goes to feed poultrey, pork, beef, and your pet fluffy. At estimated feed rates of 1.2lbs to grow 1lb of salmon, 3lbs for 1lb of poultrey, 5lbs for 1lb of pork, 8lbs for 1lb of beef, and we Know you are not going to eat Fuffy. Where do you think wild fish by-products and waste should go to feed the world? Makes sense to me to grow the most with taking the least.

[AquacultureAwareness]

It's now 2010!!!

We have an update for you...and it's going to blow you away. Click on our name and see what's happened since you posted this video on fish farming.

[Folkboat11]

Don't eat or buy Alaska wild salmon. Up to 41% of the salmon that Alaska exports has been raised in hatchery factory plastic trays, fed pellets, held in open net pens for up to 12 months, then released into the wild. Alaska farms up to 1.5 billion salmon each year to sustain their fake wild salmon fishery.

[Folkboat11]

Miss Morton said pink salmon will go "extinct" They didn't. She said Atlantic salmon will decimate wild spawning grounds. They havent. She says BC salmon farmers are Norwegian. They're not. Does she ever get it right? You bet, when she said.

"I don't have a great set of credentials."

[goosee91]

@Folkboat11

Alexandra Morton is an educated biologist who has more knowledge on her specific area of British Columbia than nearly any scientist currently working. In addition she has published numerous PEER REVIEWED journal articles with scientist around the world. Moreover her research is publicly funded and lacks influence from business or government.

And might i ask Folkboat11 why would Morton be wasting her time if her data was falsified.

[Folkboat11]

@goosee91 Add one more didnt get it wright, to your self trained biologist who is funded by an American marketing foundation. Apparently according to morton, ISAv, was apparently here in B.C, but now gone. “Reckless allegations based on incomplete science can be devastating to these communities and unfair to the families that make a living from the sea.”

-BC Minister of Agriculture Don McRae Perhaps if she stayed in school she would know better. Follow the money.

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[Bluebeltonproduction]

@Folkboat11 Your a tool. What do you have to say about the Fraser river sockeye return disappearing a couple years ago? How about ISA? Go back to your fish farming job asshole.

[Folkboat11]

@Bluebeltonproduction When you get it right, then you can come back to me. Untill then, you did made me laugh :)

[Folkboat11]

@Bluebeltonproduction The Pacific Salmon Forum PSF - a non-biased scientific body ordered to look into the sea lice issue found that the studies Morton was citing (her own), were incorrect. Co-author Marty Krkosek agreed. Morton and Krkosek were asked to “recalibrate”. Morton concluded that “the survival of the pink salmon cohort was not statistically different from a reference region without salmon farms.” That’s right – no extinction. Not even a difference.

[FishingKing754]

Here's a great idea why don't people who do not know how to wear a fucking condom learn how to use one. This way there will be less people to feed and thus a lessened level of overharvest. There problem solved!

[eofregene]

im going to start a fish farm but for catfish in nigeria who eat anything

[greenfish13]

one more thing, farm raised salmon is considerably more affordable than wild caught alaskan salmon, at least where I am from

[greenfish13]

The guy is right we are using a natural resource to be converted into another farm raised resource. Fish added to pellets are added in the form of fish oil for protein. Anchovies and sardines high in this content. The thing of it is this video attacks aquaculture and forecasts gloom and doom yet fails to address the possibility that the very thing they are attacking can turn things around. Have faith in aquaculture, while this is an industry its not all about greed and money.

[ScopedOUT2]

I never understood this principle of wasting fish to feed other fish. For God's sake, if you're gonna farm fish, then also raise other fish they need to eat. It's not freaking rocket science... simply grow some carp that grow to huge sizes and feed on vegetation or algae and then grind those up to feed to other fish. Simple, but complex for those who can only think in terms of dollars and cents.

[PresidentOfTheBlack]

The West is the creator of all things Evil!!

[TheSailer99]

Electronic echo sounders were developed in the war to find submarines. Give it ten years for them to be available to fishermen to find fish and another five or ten for them to be widely available, say 1965. In about fifty years we have caught half of all the fish. most of the big traditional grounds are fished out, North Sea herring and cod. Grand Banks cod and many others. Its not looking good for the rest.

[RandyBful1]

Corporations are destroying this planet - all in the name of GREED!

[captainwull]

A lot of the problems we had in the North Sea stemmed from the Sand eel industrial fishery. One area where we caught Cod for scores of years was wiped out in a single summer when a Norweigian industrial trawler worked the area for a few weeks.

I feel this ship took the food away so the Cod went away too. Even now 10 years later there is very little cod on that fishing ground. In areas where they do not fish Sand eel Cod is abundant.

[AlaskaRanchedSalmon]

This film misses the point completely.

The real questions is: is the fish meal fishery sustainable? If the answer is yes, then the next question is: what is the most efficient use of the fish meal?

Most scientists would suggest that using it in aquaculture (ie. salmon) is a heck of a lot more efficient than using it for terrestrial animals (ie. pigs) because fish convert this protein much more efficiently than warm-blooded land animals.

[ecmorgan100]

Good question.

I don't agree that the film misses the point 'completely', and I believe there is sufficient evidence to claim that fish meal fisheries are unsustainable. I do however think that what you've said about terrestrial feed raises an extremely important question mark over the issue of fish feed in general. How can we argue the case against feeding salmon and trout when we use it for pigs and cattle as well?

It's a fantastic film, and book, but it's not the bible.

[serpico009]

@AlaskaRanchedSalmon The answer is no. A system in which 4-5 pounds of smaller fish like sardines is needed to feed/raise one pound of a farmed species is unsustainable. The gained output is far less than the needed input.

[Greenstar56]

Umm actually that pretty good. I believe its Leiberg's law of limitation but typically only 10% of energy makes its way up the food chain. So if you are able to increase those gains to 20-25% you are vastly more efficient than a general natural system. It would fundamentally to go from one pound of fodder to one pound of product energetically speaking. I am not advocating fishing farming for this reason but I feel that saying it is a bad thing due to using a wild source of food is absurd.

[TSM9356]

great video - spread the word

[exotus12]

This is foolish, a large percent of fish meal is made by fish by-products ( heads, tails, guts) the stuff we don't eat. While the rest of the fish goes to market. They obviously never fully researched this. Large factory freezer vessels catch, process, freeze and package their catch on-board and they waste nothing. All parts of the fish that are discarded from the processing stage, get ground up and dried into fish meal. One of the cleanest fisheries out there.

[romeoneverdies]

problem is not the efficiency of fisheries (its actually too efficient!) its the fact that we take a lots of fish and turn it into a more desirable fish basically many fish for one fish

even that isn't a real root of the problem the root of the problem is that doing so we are depleting the oceans of its fishes !

[mucusfish]

hmm not entirely true. A significant portion of the peruvian anchovy(whole fish) go to the fishmeal industry( Note tht this is one of the largest caught sisngle species fisheries on the planet) . THis is true for the sardines and other relatively small species especially clupeids which is consumed directly only in certain pockets of the developing world

[danndan6]

but what about the fish that dont feed on other fish? farming those fish are beneficial

[Saluret]

Well done, Kashfi. This Documentary should be watched by us all, and I look forward to seeing it. I hope that it will IMPACT people, before it's TOO late. Janey.