Yes, he might've been guilty but death sentence for it ?! China has so many issues with human rights... I cannot believe the olympics actually took place in Beijing...
Don't take me wrong - I lived in China for 4 years myself and I love it and I love Beijing, but the people there need to get their act straight.
"I cannot believe the olympics actually took place in Beijing" - Beijing is the Best choice by far.
Where else should be host it? USA? England? Australia? While they massacre MILLIONS in Iraq.
"Yes, he might've been guilty but death sentence for it " - Treason is one of the highest crimes there is. US executes prisoners that sell out US secrets to foreign nations
Western people really need to get their acts together. I cant believe a genocidal country like UK got the Olympics
Okay listen before you categorize me as one of those "western people" you should get your own act together. Beijing is my home just FYI...
But the rules for the olympics were that china has to get proper human rights and they didn't - not even closely, a chinese person in China can get executed for stealing from a foreigner - so I think it's them who has to get their act together.
I'm not saying that the US or the UK is a better choice I'm just saying that China was a wrong one for the olympics.
"But the rules for the olympics were that china has to get proper human rights" - Olympics and human rights are 2 different issues. There is no link between the 2. It was the western nations that made up the human rights abuses against us and then began a smear campaign based on groundless info.
"a chinese person in China can get executed for stealing from a foreigner + - well lucky u havnt met me. Because I'll steal ur wife and ur children and walk away with no punishment
Yes the western nations made up the human rights issue BUT the western people ALSO made up the olympics - and the olympics bring a lot of economy and so on and if china wanted that they were supposed to get human rights which they didn't...
HAHA steal my wife and my children ?! GOOD THAT I'M FEMALE THEN huh ?!?!.............
Are you defending a country who's fucking guilty of the Falon Gong fucking inhumanities who keep thousands of Falon Gong practitioners in fucking nazi like concentrations camps? I'm fucking disgusted. ANARCHY! Go be governed, sheep!
I should instead defend a group of nations that massacred millions in Iraq under false WMD claims.
I should also defend the exact same group of nations for control 1/5 of the world's land, the eploitation of natural resources and the destruction of millions of natives.
Defend no nations, nations don't care about you --not even if you live in it. Defend people, forget nations because at the end of the day a country is not a sentient thing and it wont get hurt feelings if you don't give a shit about it's existence. I am nationless because I am not afraid, I am from the world and my priority is the experience of every sentient being. If you want something righteous to fight for, try that something.
I feel I am defending the PEOPLE of my nation. China has too many people for there to be swift political change. Many people will suffer far worse than simply death if the political system changes overnight. China MUST democratise but not quickly as Western media, politicians, human rights activists would want.
I agree, in a world like this sometimes it's necessary to hold up walls to ideas that could cause chaos and effectively mass murder. I think democracy is better than what you have right now, though my ideal is where each individual has equal freedom as each nation. Every person without power, no one with it sounds amazing and I pray that one day it's possible. What would be ideal for your nation in your eyes?
Democracy MAY be what China lacks. But democracy is not going to come knocking at our door saying "Look I can solve ALL of China's problems".
Chinese Democracy will triumph when the party is no longer dependant on. Right now approximately 70 million people work for the party. Not including extended family of 100-200 million. It would be chaos if all those people got sacked simply because a few million human rights activists got its way of democratising China immediately.
this case is very clear, the man sold secret information of China's DF-21 missile. this man will be killed for sure. I understand the daughter, but she should understand her father is guilty. and her family is making dirty money.
Yes, he might've been guilty but death sentence for it ?! China has so many issues with human rights... I cannot believe the olympics actually took place in Beijing...
Don't take me wrong - I lived in China for 4 years myself and I love it and I love Beijing, but the people there need to get their act straight.
Pekingpuma 3 years ago
"I cannot believe the olympics actually took place in Beijing" - Beijing is the Best choice by far.
Where else should be host it? USA? England? Australia? While they massacre MILLIONS in Iraq.
"Yes, he might've been guilty but death sentence for it " - Treason is one of the highest crimes there is. US executes prisoners that sell out US secrets to foreign nations
Western people really need to get their acts together. I cant believe a genocidal country like UK got the Olympics
PRCForever 3 years ago
Okay listen before you categorize me as one of those "western people" you should get your own act together. Beijing is my home just FYI...
But the rules for the olympics were that china has to get proper human rights and they didn't - not even closely, a chinese person in China can get executed for stealing from a foreigner - so I think it's them who has to get their act together.
I'm not saying that the US or the UK is a better choice I'm just saying that China was a wrong one for the olympics.
Pekingpuma 3 years ago
"But the rules for the olympics were that china has to get proper human rights" - Olympics and human rights are 2 different issues. There is no link between the 2. It was the western nations that made up the human rights abuses against us and then began a smear campaign based on groundless info.
"a chinese person in China can get executed for stealing from a foreigner + - well lucky u havnt met me. Because I'll steal ur wife and ur children and walk away with no punishment
PRCForever 3 years ago
Yes the western nations made up the human rights issue BUT the western people ALSO made up the olympics - and the olympics bring a lot of economy and so on and if china wanted that they were supposed to get human rights which they didn't...
HAHA steal my wife and my children ?! GOOD THAT I'M FEMALE THEN huh ?!?!.............
Pekingpuma 3 years ago
yes ur a lesbian
western nations should improve their human rights
China >>> whatever other countries out there.
PRCForever 3 years ago
Are you defending a country who's fucking guilty of the Falon Gong fucking inhumanities who keep thousands of Falon Gong practitioners in fucking nazi like concentrations camps? I'm fucking disgusted. ANARCHY! Go be governed, sheep!
PostApocalypticChase 3 years ago
Ok fine, I apologise
I should instead defend a group of nations that massacred millions in Iraq under false WMD claims.
I should also defend the exact same group of nations for control 1/5 of the world's land, the eploitation of natural resources and the destruction of millions of natives.
PRCForever 3 years ago
Defend no nations, nations don't care about you --not even if you live in it. Defend people, forget nations because at the end of the day a country is not a sentient thing and it wont get hurt feelings if you don't give a shit about it's existence. I am nationless because I am not afraid, I am from the world and my priority is the experience of every sentient being. If you want something righteous to fight for, try that something.
PostApocalypticChase 3 years ago
I feel I am defending the PEOPLE of my nation. China has too many people for there to be swift political change. Many people will suffer far worse than simply death if the political system changes overnight. China MUST democratise but not quickly as Western media, politicians, human rights activists would want.
PRCForever 3 years ago 2
I agree, in a world like this sometimes it's necessary to hold up walls to ideas that could cause chaos and effectively mass murder. I think democracy is better than what you have right now, though my ideal is where each individual has equal freedom as each nation. Every person without power, no one with it sounds amazing and I pray that one day it's possible. What would be ideal for your nation in your eyes?
PostApocalypticChase 3 years ago
Democracy MAY be what China lacks. But democracy is not going to come knocking at our door saying "Look I can solve ALL of China's problems".
Chinese Democracy will triumph when the party is no longer dependant on. Right now approximately 70 million people work for the party. Not including extended family of 100-200 million. It would be chaos if all those people got sacked simply because a few million human rights activists got its way of democratising China immediately.
PRCForever 3 years ago
this case is very clear, the man sold secret information of China's DF-21 missile. this man will be killed for sure. I understand the daughter, but she should understand her father is guilty. and her family is making dirty money.
weili42 3 years ago
her family is one of the most shameless i've ever seen
talking to george w bush makes little difference. The guy imprisons many Americans to this day in Gitmo Bay for helping Al Qaeda and the Taliban
PRCForever 3 years ago