His amendment is horribly misguided. If a worker's productivity is less than the minimum wage, a minimum wage law will leave him unemployed. "Raising the minimum wage" doesn't give anybody a new right. It negates his rights. Before the law, he could sell his labor for under a specific amount. After, the law he is forbidden to do that. If a store wants to sell its goods, it can drop the price until people buy them. If a worker wants to sell his labor, he is out of luck. He can't "drop the price".
Would you work for $3.00 an hour? Your logic is incorrect, already employers don't pay according to job performance and or experience. When I worked for Wal-mart, I had over 6 years of management experience, a degree, and over 15 years of retail experience. When I left, I left at $10.40 an hour. I was not getting paid what I am worth. Getting paid for what you are worth is one of the basic fundamentals of Communism.( Read the Communist Manifesto)
Plus, if more people get paid less than what they currently are, taxes go up. More people depending on State aid. I live in Connecticut, in order to live here comfortably you have to make at least $17.00 an hour, 40hrs a week. Most no skilled workers make a 3rd of that now. Increasing poverty to benefit the well-to-do will only hurt the economy. Fact, if places like Wal-mart paid every employee $15.00 an hr 40hrs a week, it would only raise the prices of certain items by a $1.00.
The day that at least 75% of Republicans members of Congress can live for one year on a minimum wage of $10 an hour with no benefits and no recourse to private income, then I will believe that they really care about people and not the accumaltion of wealth by those who control the means of Productions and Service. Otherwise I can only conclude that they favor greed of the wealthy and are willing to dupe religious people into thinking that they care about moral values.
How do you figure? A multi- billion dollar company such as Wal-mart could afford to pay their employees $15.00 an hour full time, and it would only raise the price of certain products by $1.00 without having to fire people. People make more, they spend more, they spend more, companies make more. It's called the trickle up effect. The trickle down effect does not work, it's a fact, the filthy rich horde their wealth and don't pass it down.
@grendel1013 Under normal conditions, the wealthy put their money in a bank and the bank lends the money out to people who do spend it. True, we are living in unusual times where banks are afraid to lend. But, in this case, wouldn't the banks be the ones "guilty" of hoarding?
Productivity is based on pay. Money talks and bull shit walks. If I got paid $3.00 an hour, you bet your ass I would sit around and do nothing.People in the retail sector work their asses off, and have to deal with shit from people every day. No paid sick time, no over time. Employees must work even if they are sick, remember that next time you are at McDonalds. Yes there are some lazy people, but there are lazy people in suits too. Seriously, Actors get paid millions? wtf.
@grendel1013 Next time I'm in McDonald's Hahahahahahahaha! LOL! I don't eat that processed shite. Really though. I'm amazed that Americans complain about making $3 an hour or $10 an hour when people in China, India, Combodia have to work a f**king day to make that and people here on VISAs f**king marry people just for permission to live here and work here. OMG. You spoiled goddamn brats.
lasthandwillie: you miss the point entirely. Based on you logic we should have a minimum wage of say $50k a year. Is that what you propose? if not why not?
I pointed out that Congress consider the current minimum wage acceptable if they were forced to live on it. Anything less is slavery by the owners of business. I advocate a minimum of wages that make life survivable at a a level that those who are passing laws could prove that they could survive on. Every human being is entitled to a minimim amount of food, clothing, shelter. and medical care. To do less is to say that some people are expendable.
Sorry but washing dishes and sewing nike checks on soccer balls isn't worth whatever minimum wage is at right now. The reason minimum wage doesn't work is because it doesn't take into account inflation. But hey what would I know about any of this, I'm not a lawyer, and after all they know everything. Don't believe me? Whats the majority of people in congress profession (if they even have one other than congress)?
The free market does just fine, so long as rich men are not colluding under an Oligarchy to keep wages depressed. And nothing is forcing people to work as slave laborers.
Now we are far worse off with more red tape bogging down the free market.
The minimum wage hurts business, and causes more red tape. Remember the socialists in the Democrat party push through minimum wage laws to undermine america.
If we can control of our currency. And gold and silver was only being used. Silver and gold would be worth the same as they were in Jesus time probably.
A man could work all day for one silver coin and be just fine. Remember our fiat dollor has lost 95% of its value.
People won't work for a place that doesn't pay them enough. Let the free market decide what it should pay.
His amendment is horribly misguided. If a worker's productivity is less than the minimum wage, a minimum wage law will leave him unemployed. "Raising the minimum wage" doesn't give anybody a new right. It negates his rights. Before the law, he could sell his labor for under a specific amount. After, the law he is forbidden to do that. If a store wants to sell its goods, it can drop the price until people buy them. If a worker wants to sell his labor, he is out of luck. He can't "drop the price".
DoctorMurky 1 year ago
@DoctorMurky
Would you work for $3.00 an hour? Your logic is incorrect, already employers don't pay according to job performance and or experience. When I worked for Wal-mart, I had over 6 years of management experience, a degree, and over 15 years of retail experience. When I left, I left at $10.40 an hour. I was not getting paid what I am worth. Getting paid for what you are worth is one of the basic fundamentals of Communism.( Read the Communist Manifesto)
grendel1013 1 year ago
@DoctorMurky
Plus, if more people get paid less than what they currently are, taxes go up. More people depending on State aid. I live in Connecticut, in order to live here comfortably you have to make at least $17.00 an hour, 40hrs a week. Most no skilled workers make a 3rd of that now. Increasing poverty to benefit the well-to-do will only hurt the economy. Fact, if places like Wal-mart paid every employee $15.00 an hr 40hrs a week, it would only raise the prices of certain items by a $1.00.
grendel1013 1 year ago
Well said Senator!
ntn1987 2 years ago
The day that at least 75% of Republicans members of Congress can live for one year on a minimum wage of $10 an hour with no benefits and no recourse to private income, then I will believe that they really care about people and not the accumaltion of wealth by those who control the means of Productions and Service. Otherwise I can only conclude that they favor greed of the wealthy and are willing to dupe religious people into thinking that they care about moral values.
lasthandwillie 2 years ago
Higher minimum wage = higher unemployment
thomasw78 2 years ago
@thomasw78
How do you figure? A multi- billion dollar company such as Wal-mart could afford to pay their employees $15.00 an hour full time, and it would only raise the price of certain products by $1.00 without having to fire people. People make more, they spend more, they spend more, companies make more. It's called the trickle up effect. The trickle down effect does not work, it's a fact, the filthy rich horde their wealth and don't pass it down.
grendel1013 1 year ago
@grendel1013 Under normal conditions, the wealthy put their money in a bank and the bank lends the money out to people who do spend it. True, we are living in unusual times where banks are afraid to lend. But, in this case, wouldn't the banks be the ones "guilty" of hoarding?
DoctorMurky 1 year ago
@DoctorMurky
Productivity is based on pay. Money talks and bull shit walks. If I got paid $3.00 an hour, you bet your ass I would sit around and do nothing.People in the retail sector work their asses off, and have to deal with shit from people every day. No paid sick time, no over time. Employees must work even if they are sick, remember that next time you are at McDonalds. Yes there are some lazy people, but there are lazy people in suits too. Seriously, Actors get paid millions? wtf.
grendel1013 1 year ago
@grendel1013 Next time I'm in McDonald's Hahahahahahahaha! LOL! I don't eat that processed shite. Really though. I'm amazed that Americans complain about making $3 an hour or $10 an hour when people in China, India, Combodia have to work a f**king day to make that and people here on VISAs f**king marry people just for permission to live here and work here. OMG. You spoiled goddamn brats.
DoctorMurky 1 year ago
@DoctorMurky
Yeah and our currency is worth more than theirs, and also they live in shacks. Don't EVER compare U.S pay to other Communist , shit hole countries.
Spoiled? LMFAO! Coming from some one that would never work an honest day in their life. Go on ass fuck, continue suckling of you dads prick for money.
grendel1013 1 year ago
@DoctorMurky
I'm sorry, border jumping wetbacks are a cancer to our country. They should go back home or be shot.
grendel1013 1 year ago
lasthandwillie: you miss the point entirely. Based on you logic we should have a minimum wage of say $50k a year. Is that what you propose? if not why not?
p0procket 2 years ago
I pointed out that Congress consider the current minimum wage acceptable if they were forced to live on it. Anything less is slavery by the owners of business. I advocate a minimum of wages that make life survivable at a a level that those who are passing laws could prove that they could survive on. Every human being is entitled to a minimim amount of food, clothing, shelter. and medical care. To do less is to say that some people are expendable.
lasthandwillie 2 years ago
Sorry but washing dishes and sewing nike checks on soccer balls isn't worth whatever minimum wage is at right now. The reason minimum wage doesn't work is because it doesn't take into account inflation. But hey what would I know about any of this, I'm not a lawyer, and after all they know everything. Don't believe me? Whats the majority of people in congress profession (if they even have one other than congress)?
gwapindust 2 years ago
The free market does just fine, so long as rich men are not colluding under an Oligarchy to keep wages depressed. And nothing is forcing people to work as slave laborers.
Now we are far worse off with more red tape bogging down the free market.
Verlch 3 years ago
The minimum wage hurts business, and causes more red tape. Remember the socialists in the Democrat party push through minimum wage laws to undermine america.
Verlch 3 years ago
ITS UNDERMINING WHEN YOU TELL AN EMPLOYEE "you are only workth 2 bucks an hr"
if you pay very low you will recive a low work etich from an employee NO EMPLOYEE will work hard for a low wage
nkruk1979 2 years ago
If we can control of our currency. And gold and silver was only being used. Silver and gold would be worth the same as they were in Jesus time probably.
A man could work all day for one silver coin and be just fine. Remember our fiat dollor has lost 95% of its value.
People won't work for a place that doesn't pay them enough. Let the free market decide what it should pay.
Verlch 2 years ago
If the minimum wage was abolished, people getting paid the minimum wage now would drop to probably $1-2$/hr; poverty would skyrocket
nkruk1979 2 years ago
The minimum wage is already poverty wages.
It should be renamed the Poverty Wage "The Lowest Amount the Central Government Wants to Tax."
Do you realize that Poverty Wage jobs get cut when they raise the minimum wage?
Verlch 2 years ago
Sorry Jimbo.....you are out of touch with working people...typical Repub chatter...
rondaddy08 3 years ago
thats rights... gooo de mint
hairybeast101 3 years ago