Hypocrisy and the human race go hand in hand. Abraham Lincoln once defined a hypocrite: 'the man who murdered both his parents; then pleaded for mercy on the grounds that he was an orphan'. Unless people demonstrate in action what they are prepared to preach by virtue - their argument loses credibility on all counts. Saying is one thing; doing another; we must consider the sermon and the preacher distinctly and apart! Quite frankly, I find Al Gore a pathetic individual; he has my utmost pity.
You global warming theorists need to get laid desperately. You need to calm yourselves and think for a moment. This is NOT BEING CAUSED BY HUMANS. Their is nothing that is warming. No overwhelming evidence what so ever. A one degree spike in temperature is just outrageous. Don't know about you hard line believers, but can't tell the damn difference. IT IS NOT WARMING! Climates change, the earth changes on a daily and hourly basis. NOT POSSIBLE in the 160 yrs. worth of fossil fuel burning.
Every major scientific institution dealing with climate, ocean, and/or atmosphere agrees that the climate is warming rapidly and the primary cause is human CO2 emissions.
And there is also a mountain of scientific evidence showing that the climate is warming rapidly.
Give it up NV...the gig is up, Gore is in hiding, the sheep are finally waking up. There is no global warming threat due to human. Just lay your weapons down and go home peacefully.
@Nightversionn If this evidence is so irrefutable, how come 30,000 scientists have signed a petition saying that these findings are incorrect.. Al Gore is the puppet for another tax, that is all. Europe tried the same thing and saw nothing for a decrease in carbon emissions, just higher taxes..
@jondoe91941 Let's not make the issue a political agenda.
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That being said, the climate is warming from human caused emissions. Maybe or maybe not on the scale that is publicized. We are undeniably effecting the climate though.
A partial review of the emails shows that in many cases, climate scientists revealed that their own research wasn't always conclusive. In others, they discussed ways to paper over differences among themselves in order to present a "unified" view on climate change. On at least one occasion, climate scientists were asked to "beef up" conclusions about climate change and extreme weather events because environmental officials in one country were planning a "big public splash."
NASA recently released updated temp data showing that 1934 was the warmest year in the last century and that no year has exceeded that maximum since. In fact 2007 and then 2008 were the coldest years in the last century....Global Warming? Gullible sucks, Gore was worth 1m following his failed presidential campaign now he is valued at over 200m...how can this be? He owns a carbon trading company...gee ya think??
Exactly. He's found a perfect liberal money maker; a concept, not a thing or a widget or a practical invention, but a concept that has broad appeal with people who don't think things through but who support political correct idiocy that threatens our economy and way of life. And he's so rich, he'll have a hard time switching to the green lifestyle
@OdinsHenchman actually the hottest year on record was 2006. 12 of the top 25 hottest years have been 1990 or later. If you add the 1980's it's most of the list.
@nicholsml Bullshit, a clever mathematician analysed NASA's data and found an error in their method, they were forced to revise the data. I'll see if I can find the actual NASA revised data and send it to you, after all one doesnt want to be seen to be talking out of their arse just because they are ignorant to the facts ;- )
@nicholsml According to the new data published by NASA, 1998 is no longer the hottest year ever. 1934 is.
Four of the top 10 years of US CONUS high temperature deviations are now from the 1930s: 1934, 1931, 1938 and 1939, while only 3 of the top 10 are from the last 10 years (1998, 2006, 1999). Several years (2000, 2002, 2003, 2004) fell well down the leaderboard, behind even 1900.
Any more conspiracy theories? Very entertaining but I'm only interested in facts and research, you have yet to show any to support you argument. The NASA link from the article actually shows 1998 and 2006 as both being hotter. I really don't care about Gore or Bush either.
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I get it that you go against the majority of the scientific community but... The trend in global temperatures is UP and has been going up, you can't deny facts.
@nicholsml "Conspiracy Theories" LOL!! That is akin to using the "antisemite" slur when people point out facts about Israel that make a certain group uncomfortable, a insipid attempt to silence the truth. The fact is that the truth fears no investigation and censorship by any means is the refuge of those disabled by the truth. AGW whackos are in the same as religious whackos, they take everything on "faith" and fairytales put together by vested interests CONT>>
@OdinsHenchman Here are some more "Conspiracy Theories" for you to reject based on "faith" Wait...how many records have been set for cold in the last 3 northern hemisphere winters by the way as opposed to records set for heat ;- )
I had this long winded reply, but after looking at your youtube profile, I see that you are deeply mentally disturbed. Zionists, Holocaust Hoaxs, NWO, Illuminati junk all on your profile.
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Seriously, you should seek help or something, you have problems, kind of scary actually.
Yeah I looked at yours too>> Just making videos for fun about games and sci-fi nerdage. About Me: Been playing computer games and reading Science Fiction and fantasy novels since 1987'ish.
I'm really looking forward to the new "Game of thrones" series being produced by HBO. Hopefully it gets picked up in March!!!
LMFAO!!! science FICTION!!
Now why doesnt that surprise me Matt?? So you are into fiction and toys/games and I am into the meaning of life and who controls our lives..fool
@OdinsHenchman It is because of twats like Matt (appropriate name) that the USA is in the shocking state it finds itself today. People like "matt" have allowed their government to walk all over them for so long that it just comes naturally to them, to be used as something the elite wipe their boots on is "normal". May your chains rest lightly apon you Matt, you are part of the problem, not the solution, you are more interested in games and scifi than you are in what is happening around you.. sad
Actually I'm a veteran and an It professional also. So what?
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Science Fiction and PC gaming just happens to be a couple of hobbies I'm into, so what?
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As far as you? Dude you're crazy. You're racist. You're a conspiracy theorist. No point in arguing with you because your nuts.
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On a serious note, your bigotry, racism and Paranoia along with your anger when someone disagrees with you could be a sign of a serious mental illness. I do hope you find some help.
@nicholsml What happened to the debate about AGW douche? Oh thats right you got PWNED and went into retreat and on the personal attacks agenda....you are clearly PROJECTING spastic, it is you who needs to up your meds, that is if the VA will give you some...you are a childlike fruitloop pal why not get back on topic so I can own you all over again either that or take note of the vid I am about to share with you.
@nicholsml HoHoHoHo, PWNED, you can always tell when you have won a debate folks, you can tell when the other person starts attacking you on a personal level and changing the subject. Poor Matt lives in a fantasyworld and as a result has no idea what the fuck is going on in the real world so when he feels he has been pwned he goes on the personal attack offensive, which has backfired terribly on him, not an intellectual are you mate? You prefer the scifi/fantasy scene :o ))))))))))
@OdinsHenchman Also I know more about the middle east and the Israel/Palestine conflict then you ever will. I've been there and met people from both areas. Have you? I doubt it.
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You're not an intellectual, you preach hate, racism and conspiracy theories, because... get this... YOU ARE CRAZY.
"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. When you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you."
No reason to get on "Topic". You haven't shown anything other then a blog. It's really not worth even debating with you since you really do have issues. I would hope that you take some time to see a professional about it.
1. Most scientists do not believe human activities threaten to disrupt the Earths climate. More than 17,000 scientists have signed a petition circulated by the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine saying, in part, there is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earths atmosphere and disruption of the Earths climate
Well, is Gore actually preaching that individuals should intensely regulate their lives to ensure that their "carbon footprint" is minimal? Or is he campaigning for changes in government policy. If the former, he is a hypocrite; if the latter, he is not.
Its a bit of both. He promotes legislation to force expensive "green" policies onto the general populous, while at the same time promoting the idea that if YOU drive you cars and have your ac's and fly planes, etc. then YOU are killing the planet. At the same time, his home uses 14x the national average in electricity and he drives around is largescale motorcades...
But, he buys carbon credits, so... And just because he owns that carbon credit company doesnt mean he isnt honest, haha.
Alan Colmes is a smart guy and usually has good intellectual counterpoints, but I think what this Ed Frank did at the Gore rally really pissed him off!!!
Colmes simply plays word games and uses end around tactics to belittle legitimate complaints, like most liberal media types.
The point of AFPs story wasnt that global warming is bunk, they were stating that Al Gore is a hypocrite while showing proof of his actions contradicting his "lectures". The whole time Colmes was arguing that they were "shooting the messenger, not dealing w/ the message" which is exactly AFPs goal.
Al Gore is a flim flam man. Some of the scientists on his list of professionals are medical doctors, dentists and pediatrician or two. These aren't exactly glogal warming specialists.............Read part of the book, a real good laugh. He is making millions off people he can scare into a state of paranoia.
Libs wise up! Even saying we're goin to man up and start drilling had an effect on gas prices. If u don't believe that then you don't know how the futures market works. Its the possibility of more oil in the "future" that makes prices go down. That's why its the "FUTURES" market. Also drillin offshore is way safer than it was 20+ years ago when it was banned. Norway & other "green" countries do it with our tech and have no problems.
Yes,we need to look for wind,solar & nuke energy too. The US can no longer be a single source energy user. But,until a viable alternative to oil is there-oil will still be needed to power the economy. No oil=no trucks,trains,planes,cars. No transport=no movement of goods. No movement=no money. No money=USA is 3rd world country. Maybe we can get aid from China and have our kids on "Save the Children" and "Care". The UN could send aid workers to Detroit or StLouis. How would that feel!? Get real!
Everyone is missing the main point here. Liberals are not required to practice what they preach. The scream for higher taxes but people like Al Franken, Al Sharpton, and Keith Olbermann don't have to pay theirs. Gore uses more electric in one month than the average person in a year. What a bunch of hypocrites.
oil can be tapped in five years & some argue that it can be tapped in less than that. even if it took fifteen or twenty yrs, why wouldnt we not go ahead and start now?
alternative fuels will take at least several yrs to harness and another ten yrs till we get cars & stations to use them.
in ten yrs, do you think anyone will use oil? Anyone in the world? even if we somehow got alternative fuels, stations & vehicles on the streets tomorrow, the oil companies will take the brunt of it not us
We on planet earth do not have the technology to "Go Green" and drop gas or oil.
If you buy an electric or hybrid vehicle today, in 6 to 8 years you'll have to replace those batteries, costing you another 7 to 8 thousand dollars.
Don't believe me? Google it!
AzBirdDog 3 months ago
Hypocrisy and the human race go hand in hand. Abraham Lincoln once defined a hypocrite: 'the man who murdered both his parents; then pleaded for mercy on the grounds that he was an orphan'. Unless people demonstrate in action what they are prepared to preach by virtue - their argument loses credibility on all counts. Saying is one thing; doing another; we must consider the sermon and the preacher distinctly and apart! Quite frankly, I find Al Gore a pathetic individual; he has my utmost pity.
MegaPostman77 7 months ago
This is so lame. Then again, it's Fox, the alleged news station that caters to lame brains.
Marchant2 1 year ago
Hay,
This a typical ideologue out there for the money.
Yes, Al Gore is GREEN. A BILLION DOLLARS of green money in his name.
btall2000 1 year ago 4
Al Gore = Fraud
ndnsoldierboy 1 year ago 2
You global warming theorists need to get laid desperately. You need to calm yourselves and think for a moment. This is NOT BEING CAUSED BY HUMANS. Their is nothing that is warming. No overwhelming evidence what so ever. A one degree spike in temperature is just outrageous. Don't know about you hard line believers, but can't tell the damn difference. IT IS NOT WARMING! Climates change, the earth changes on a daily and hourly basis. NOT POSSIBLE in the 160 yrs. worth of fossil fuel burning.
dumbdems 1 year ago
Every major scientific institution dealing with climate, ocean, and/or atmosphere agrees that the climate is warming rapidly and the primary cause is human CO2 emissions.
And there is also a mountain of scientific evidence showing that the climate is warming rapidly.
Nightversionn 2 years ago
Give it up NV...the gig is up, Gore is in hiding, the sheep are finally waking up. There is no global warming threat due to human. Just lay your weapons down and go home peacefully.
bella50008 1 year ago
@Nightversionn If this evidence is so irrefutable, how come 30,000 scientists have signed a petition saying that these findings are incorrect.. Al Gore is the puppet for another tax, that is all. Europe tried the same thing and saw nothing for a decrease in carbon emissions, just higher taxes..
jondoe91941 1 year ago
@jondoe91941 Let's not make the issue a political agenda.
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That being said, the climate is warming from human caused emissions. Maybe or maybe not on the scale that is publicized. We are undeniably effecting the climate though.
nicholsml 1 year ago
his video is bullshit as well
RedAnndi 2 years ago
ClimateGate
A partial review of the emails shows that in many cases, climate scientists revealed that their own research wasn't always conclusive. In others, they discussed ways to paper over differences among themselves in order to present a "unified" view on climate change. On at least one occasion, climate scientists were asked to "beef up" conclusions about climate change and extreme weather events because environmental officials in one country were planning a "big public splash."
Thisawareness 2 years ago
when Gore wants to pollute, he can pay for it. He brokers shares to pollute with his cap and trade company. He pollutes and profits to boot.
nogov4me 2 years ago 2
NASA recently released updated temp data showing that 1934 was the warmest year in the last century and that no year has exceeded that maximum since. In fact 2007 and then 2008 were the coldest years in the last century....Global Warming? Gullible sucks, Gore was worth 1m following his failed presidential campaign now he is valued at over 200m...how can this be? He owns a carbon trading company...gee ya think??
OdinsHenchman 2 years ago 21
Exactly. He's found a perfect liberal money maker; a concept, not a thing or a widget or a practical invention, but a concept that has broad appeal with people who don't think things through but who support political correct idiocy that threatens our economy and way of life. And he's so rich, he'll have a hard time switching to the green lifestyle
lberger100 2 years ago 6
@OdinsHenchman actually the hottest year on record was 2006. 12 of the top 25 hottest years have been 1990 or later. If you add the 1980's it's most of the list.
weather.about.com/od/climatechange/a/HottestYears_2(dot)(htm)
nicholsml 1 year ago
@nicholsml Bullshit, a clever mathematician analysed NASA's data and found an error in their method, they were forced to revise the data. I'll see if I can find the actual NASA revised data and send it to you, after all one doesnt want to be seen to be talking out of their arse just because they are ignorant to the facts ;- )
OdinsHenchman 1 year ago
@nicholsml According to the new data published by NASA, 1998 is no longer the hottest year ever. 1934 is.
Four of the top 10 years of US CONUS high temperature deviations are now from the 1930s: 1934, 1931, 1938 and 1939, while only 3 of the top 10 are from the last 10 years (1998, 2006, 1999). Several years (2000, 2002, 2003, 2004) fell well down the leaderboard, behind even 1900.
OdinsHenchman 1 year ago
@nicholsml Here is a nasty dose of reality for you to assimilate
news(dot)bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/8447023(dot)stm
OdinsHenchman 1 year ago
@OdinsHenchman NASA's GISS Caught Out>>
norcalblogs(dot)/watts/2007/08/1998_no_longer_the_hottest_yea(dot)html
OdinsHenchman 1 year ago
@OdinsHenchman Don't make it about politics.
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Any more conspiracy theories? Very entertaining but I'm only interested in facts and research, you have yet to show any to support you argument. The NASA link from the article actually shows 1998 and 2006 as both being hotter. I really don't care about Gore or Bush either.
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I get it that you go against the majority of the scientific community but... The trend in global temperatures is UP and has been going up, you can't deny facts.
nicholsml 1 year ago
@nicholsml "Conspiracy Theories" LOL!! That is akin to using the "antisemite" slur when people point out facts about Israel that make a certain group uncomfortable, a insipid attempt to silence the truth. The fact is that the truth fears no investigation and censorship by any means is the refuge of those disabled by the truth. AGW whackos are in the same as religious whackos, they take everything on "faith" and fairytales put together by vested interests CONT>>
OdinsHenchman 1 year ago
@OdinsHenchman Here are some more "Conspiracy Theories" for you to reject based on "faith" Wait...how many records have been set for cold in the last 3 northern hemisphere winters by the way as opposed to records set for heat ;- )
dailytech(dot)com/Temperature%2BMonitors%2BReport%2BWorldwide%2BGlobal%2BC%20ooling/article10866(dot)htm
OdinsHenchman 1 year ago
@nicholsml
Is everything a conspiracy? NO....just the important things
OdinsHenchman 1 year ago
@OdinsHenchman
WTF are you talking about?
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I had this long winded reply, but after looking at your youtube profile, I see that you are deeply mentally disturbed. Zionists, Holocaust Hoaxs, NWO, Illuminati junk all on your profile.
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Seriously, you should seek help or something, you have problems, kind of scary actually.
nicholsml 1 year ago
Yeah I looked at yours too>> Just making videos for fun about games and sci-fi nerdage. About Me: Been playing computer games and reading Science Fiction and fantasy novels since 1987'ish.
I'm really looking forward to the new "Game of thrones" series being produced by HBO. Hopefully it gets picked up in March!!!
LMFAO!!! science FICTION!!
Now why doesnt that surprise me Matt?? So you are into fiction and toys/games and I am into the meaning of life and who controls our lives..fool
OdinsHenchman 1 year ago
@OdinsHenchman It is because of twats like Matt (appropriate name) that the USA is in the shocking state it finds itself today. People like "matt" have allowed their government to walk all over them for so long that it just comes naturally to them, to be used as something the elite wipe their boots on is "normal". May your chains rest lightly apon you Matt, you are part of the problem, not the solution, you are more interested in games and scifi than you are in what is happening around you.. sad
OdinsHenchman 1 year ago
@OdinsHenchman
Actually I'm a veteran and an It professional also. So what?
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Science Fiction and PC gaming just happens to be a couple of hobbies I'm into, so what?
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As far as you? Dude you're crazy. You're racist. You're a conspiracy theorist. No point in arguing with you because your nuts.
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On a serious note, your bigotry, racism and Paranoia along with your anger when someone disagrees with you could be a sign of a serious mental illness. I do hope you find some help.
nicholsml 1 year ago
@nicholsml What happened to the debate about AGW douche? Oh thats right you got PWNED and went into retreat and on the personal attacks agenda....you are clearly PROJECTING spastic, it is you who needs to up your meds, that is if the VA will give you some...you are a childlike fruitloop pal why not get back on topic so I can own you all over again either that or take note of the vid I am about to share with you.
OdinsHenchman 1 year ago
@nicholsml HoHoHoHo, PWNED, you can always tell when you have won a debate folks, you can tell when the other person starts attacking you on a personal level and changing the subject. Poor Matt lives in a fantasyworld and as a result has no idea what the fuck is going on in the real world so when he feels he has been pwned he goes on the personal attack offensive, which has backfired terribly on him, not an intellectual are you mate? You prefer the scifi/fantasy scene :o ))))))))))
OdinsHenchman 1 year ago
@OdinsHenchman Also I know more about the middle east and the Israel/Palestine conflict then you ever will. I've been there and met people from both areas. Have you? I doubt it.
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You're not an intellectual, you preach hate, racism and conspiracy theories, because... get this... YOU ARE CRAZY.
nicholsml 1 year ago
@nicholsml
"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. When you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you."
OdinsHenchman 1 year ago
@OdinsHenchman You didn't pwn anything.
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No reason to get on "Topic". You haven't shown anything other then a blog. It's really not worth even debating with you since you really do have issues. I would hope that you take some time to see a professional about it.
nicholsml 1 year ago
1. Most scientists do not believe human activities threaten to disrupt the Earths climate. More than 17,000 scientists have signed a petition circulated by the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine saying, in part, there is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earths atmosphere and disruption of the Earths climate
RomeoMD25 2 years ago 3
Well, is Gore actually preaching that individuals should intensely regulate their lives to ensure that their "carbon footprint" is minimal? Or is he campaigning for changes in government policy. If the former, he is a hypocrite; if the latter, he is not.
DiaboloMootopia 3 years ago
Its a bit of both. He promotes legislation to force expensive "green" policies onto the general populous, while at the same time promoting the idea that if YOU drive you cars and have your ac's and fly planes, etc. then YOU are killing the planet. At the same time, his home uses 14x the national average in electricity and he drives around is largescale motorcades...
But, he buys carbon credits, so... And just because he owns that carbon credit company doesnt mean he isnt honest, haha.
northernpatriot54 2 years ago
The message doesn't matter if the messenger can't see fit to follow his own message.
rkbebout 3 years ago
Alan Colmes is a smart guy and usually has good intellectual counterpoints, but I think what this Ed Frank did at the Gore rally really pissed him off!!!
bgfrugal 3 years ago
Colmes simply plays word games and uses end around tactics to belittle legitimate complaints, like most liberal media types.
The point of AFPs story wasnt that global warming is bunk, they were stating that Al Gore is a hypocrite while showing proof of his actions contradicting his "lectures". The whole time Colmes was arguing that they were "shooting the messenger, not dealing w/ the message" which is exactly AFPs goal.
Colmes couldnt seem to get over this.
northernpatriot54 2 years ago 2
Hey tkdmike - Hannity isn't even on this clip. You know about as much about energy policy as you do about Hannity...
jrsmith1956 3 years ago
This man is such an idiot, I can't believe any one with any intellect could swallow his BS......
cplkv20208 3 years ago
Have you read any of his books, especially an inconvenient truth?
ibinib 3 years ago
Al Gore is a flim flam man. Some of the scientists on his list of professionals are medical doctors, dentists and pediatrician or two. These aren't exactly glogal warming specialists.............Read part of the book, a real good laugh. He is making millions off people he can scare into a state of paranoia.
cplkv20208 3 years ago 8
that's true. al gore's house is less energy efficient than gwb's.
patricio2419 3 years ago 17
Global Change Warming Climate is the loony left's new religion.
Gore, like some cult leader, preaches against his own practices.
Chris3cube 3 years ago 9
global warmings fake
ldrancer 3 years ago 10
Libs wise up! Even saying we're goin to man up and start drilling had an effect on gas prices. If u don't believe that then you don't know how the futures market works. Its the possibility of more oil in the "future" that makes prices go down. That's why its the "FUTURES" market. Also drillin offshore is way safer than it was 20+ years ago when it was banned. Norway & other "green" countries do it with our tech and have no problems.
twinkietim 3 years ago 3
Yes,we need to look for wind,solar & nuke energy too. The US can no longer be a single source energy user. But,until a viable alternative to oil is there-oil will still be needed to power the economy. No oil=no trucks,trains,planes,cars. No transport=no movement of goods. No movement=no money. No money=USA is 3rd world country. Maybe we can get aid from China and have our kids on "Save the Children" and "Care". The UN could send aid workers to Detroit or StLouis. How would that feel!? Get real!
twinkietim 3 years ago
nice question, journalism my ass
brumac44 3 years ago 2
Everyone is missing the main point here. Liberals are not required to practice what they preach. The scream for higher taxes but people like Al Franken, Al Sharpton, and Keith Olbermann don't have to pay theirs. Gore uses more electric in one month than the average person in a year. What a bunch of hypocrites.
truthforamerica 3 years ago 8
Liberals change the argument after their argument is proved wrong but logic or results.
zachman310 3 years ago 5
Liberals change the argument after their argument is proved wrong but logic or results.
zachman310 3 years ago 3
oil can be tapped in five years & some argue that it can be tapped in less than that. even if it took fifteen or twenty yrs, why wouldnt we not go ahead and start now?
alternative fuels will take at least several yrs to harness and another ten yrs till we get cars & stations to use them.
in ten yrs, do you think anyone will use oil? Anyone in the world? even if we somehow got alternative fuels, stations & vehicles on the streets tomorrow, the oil companies will take the brunt of it not us
zachman310 3 years ago
Go Mike!
rldavis1959 3 years ago
If Gore was sincere, he could reduce his own energy useage in 12 months. He's just a con man of the highest order.
rldavis1959 3 years ago 5
He is a climate change denier.
Drilling offshore won't produce oil
for 10, 15 years while drilling on land
just got shot down because it will bring
oil on line sooner. THIS GOVN'T choose
ethanol(Obama also) and stopped solar on Federal land BECAUSE OF *ENVIRON-MENTAL REASONS*. Deny CC so you don't have to
enforce efficiency on your friends in the private sector, start a war over peak oil
then hire a liar for hire to talk about
the a/c. The lying rug party in all it's *wonderfulness*.
nothingbutstars 3 years ago
But, but Gore uses a/c, & & a private
limo jet, and uses a mansion, and elitist
stuff. My hero Boosh uses his
jet also but he can do that b/c
he a climate change denier & being that he
can't talk good he not be elitist &
he didn't invent no on-line either.)
BTW, Bush *chose* ethanol. Learn English
and proper indention, dude, because
the message is the messenger.
nothingbutstars 3 years ago