Uneasy Gaza truce comes into effect - 19 Jun 08

[Ishayau]

There are Extremists and Moderates, both within Israel and the Arab world. Sadly, it is the voice of the Extremist that mostly finds its way, leading to war and killing. The justification of extremism in any way and shape only fuels more extremism. Its difficult to understand how to cultures that greet you with the word Peace (SALAM, SHALOM), use war as a way to solve their disputes.

[777Finster]

The word of God is a double edge sword. A line will be drawn. The true God is the God who chose Israel...... He is with us.

[17745684]

muslim warriors"

Let's BOMB THEIR CIVILIANS without any kind of targeting. Let's launch mortars into heavily populated areas. Let's plant bombs around their homes.Let's shoot their civilians working their fields!

Let's all hide behind civilian human shields while doing so!

And when they retaliate, let's all hide in ratholes and moan and whine and call the BBC, CNN, Aj-Jazeera and our brothers to stop the 'vicious attacks' and 'atrocities'.

fuck islam get out of uk.BNP support israel

[chutzpah37]

fool

[ronen418]

P oor A ngry L azy E mpty S ociety T ormented by I ranian N eeds I n A ttacking other N ations

[bobpulga]

Just to make it clear ! At d present time there is no palestine. Indeed there r two separate entities: Fatahland and Hamastan. Two prime ministers, two different laws - in the second case the sharia, two different armies, two different peace proposal - ops sorry again - Hamas even bother mentioning this words when it comes to Jews.

[FedFarmer]

Whenever, under pressure from other nations, the United Nations voted for Resolutions against Israel's egregious behavior, Washington has rushed to defend the Jewish State, and vetoed over 80 attempts by the international community to support Palestinian rights. Israel has ignored those rules set by the Geneva Convention. In this disgusting campaign to protect our "parasite," Washington has weakened the prestige of the United Nations, and shamed us before the world.

[justletuslive]

The U.N found out that Israel doesn't live up to the truce. Gaza violated the truce 1-0 Israel violated the truce now 8-10 times. But the media is concerned about Gaza and an old man being shot while working in his field and a 17 year old being shot unarmed then forced to bleed to death is just not worth reporting for them...

Luckily we have Al-Jazeera so this mumble shared doesn't have to go on, its a direct to insult to our brains.

[Maxwedge12000]

Isreal is absolutely correct in its walling off the barbarian palestinians. Suicide bombing has ceased and the palestinians are left launching primitive rockets into isreal. The thing that bugs palestinians more then any of their self imposed hardships is the inability to kill jews.

[sissiyanet]

YOU R REALLY LAUGHING AT yourselves! and CONTRADICTING yourselves, you call them "primitive rockets" and you make fun of them, then, in return, you r So frightned & u start acting crazily out of terror when one of those "primitive rockets" is thrown at you! what a paradox!!!

[Maxwedge12000]

Primitive relates to the lack of complexity of the item being discussed. Example, a bow and arrow is a primitive weapon but I sure as hell would not want to be shot with one of them. No contradictions, you just did not understand. I hope this clears it up for you.

[AlyBlack]

Hamas is in charge but they don't enforce the hudna, already there are rockets from Gaza and Hamas doesn't even condem it, much less prosecute the bombers.

[EkIund]

Recent events..

Palestine: 400 Dead xxxx Wounded.

Israel: 7 dead xx Wounded.

Do the math.

[magicalmilton]

hi. i just wanted to congratulate you guys on the standard of your current debate. it is quite refreshing to see people treating such a sensitive issue with objectivity instead of trivial insults. so thank you all (except imarw who doesn't seem to understand that this is a grown-up debate). i apologise if i sound overly enthusiastic but if you go onto "gaza's reality" you'll understand immediatly why. thank you once more, truly it is merit worthy

[imarw]

fuck israel big terrorist of the world !!Go back to germany!!

[Maxwedge12000]

Such a deep and intelligent response.

[Maxwedge12000]

truce over, palestinians launch rockets into isreal.

[wubbadukky77]

The miracle is that anyone in palestine feels any sense of forgiveness or hope at all.

An israeli is killed and its a world wide catastrophe, a palestinian family are murdered in the home at breakfast and this is apparently there own fault.

The people of gaza are in a concentration camp run by zionists.

[Maxwedge12000]

Well, that is where you are wrong. The palestinians feel no sense of forgiveness. Read the charter of hamas where they say in their own words that they will never accept any peace until isreal is destroyed. So, that leaves war. Why worry about people being killed that want war. That is what war is about, killing people.

[Epicatos]

HAHAHA AND ALREADY HAMAS BROKE THE AGREEMENT.

fuck you arabs. you are evil lying monsters.

You thought we really believed you you want peace? broke the treaty in 5 days. liars.

I hope this time the world 6th strongest military wont stand helpless because of the leaders, this time we shall PROTECT OUR CITIZENS

[Inkan1969]

Let's reject all the hotheads, on either side of the conflict...

[rezasantorini]

So far Hamas hasn't altered its position on destruction of Israel..

So far it hasn't recognized Israel.

Who hasn't changed its spots?

The blockade exists because Hamas shot rockets and kidnapped Israelis, encouraged suicide bombers and more martyrs. What did the Pals expect? Did they think Israel would open the gates, let the Pals come in and blow up even more markets and schools and allow them to fly in more money and better arms? So stupid...so short sighted.

[Mcplkelly]

Six Month Truce. Enough said, there is no desire on Hamas part to be peaceful, just to allow the blocade to lift so they can restock.

[lastnymleft]

Mcpkelly: I could attribute whatever the hell nefarious motive to Israel, too. So long as we are speculating and pulling hypotheticals out of our butt, as you have.

[Maxwedge12000]

A truce is only a temporary halt in hostilities.

The war will continue at a later date. This is just a time out. The charter of hamas clearly states they will reject all peace negotiations and will not rest until isreal is destroyed. One cannot have peace with such people.

[pathanzamir]

This is genuien gift of west to the Muslims world in 60s they throw their sheet on Arab World face, their peace was not digesting to them and they were leaving in harmony and enjoying their religion and practices and culture. yes, because they do not belive in GOD and they want make trouble all over the world specially to Muslims shame on western culture and their behaviour

[islamkoonem]

What should bother you is the fact that you are part of a religion-islam- and culture- arab- that has contributed shit to humanity for 14 centuries. You blame, your father blames, you grandpa blamed and I'm sure your demon spawn will continue the tradition. Kuss emmak to you and your kind.

[vistavision2]

Hey [islam]coon,

When the west was mired in in the dark ages, The Arabs and Muslims are whom practised astronomy, engineering, architecture, etc.

Why would the numerals 0,1,2,3, ad infintum be called Arabic numerals?

Are you buying or sellign zionist dog vomit?

[islamkoonem]

Psst..I'm not Jewish. Only a racist, aopologist, leftist fool-with bad grammar- could retort and reinforce the point I made. 1400 years ago dumbass; what have muslims done since adopting islam? Blame, kill, blame, kill.... With their "technology", engineering" and "astronomy" they couldn't find "Zionists" ass or manufacture paper to wipe Israeli ass with. Now go back to your basement and suckle until you mature.

[vistavision2]

Well I'm Tribe of jduah, All your racism and malevolence cannot change historical facts.

All zionist propaganda cannot change the same facts that Israeli leaders have committed Crimes Against Humanity.

The only ones that wipe zionist ass is zionist supporters that indeed wipe zionistt ass with their tongues and like it!

[islamkoonem]

arabs and Jews- both semites- are of the caucasian (white) race. My isssue isn't with race. I take issue with a religion, founded by a hory 7th century pig that had rendered a once proud people impotent in most, if not all areas of advancement, and reduced them to a whining, blaming culture that produces an endless strem of rage against a world that's passed them by.

[vistavision2]

islamkoonem, Then your a fool because the issue is not religion but Israel political/ military leadership's Crimes Against Humanity.

What is in order are War Crimes Tribunals: To be fair we'll apply Laws of Armed Conflict to both sides of Israelis and Palestinians.

Why do Israelis fear the Rule of International Law if they are indeed in compliance with International law?

Truth: all incoming Israeli leaders inherit a contextual situation where they immediately qualify for war Crimes

[islamkoonem]

It's not religion? Your blind hatred of Jews blinds you like the typical arab. With one or two exceptions, every single conflict in the world involves muslims'- once its population reaches "critical mass"- inability to coexist with the infidels. Why does pakistan exist? Do your research and stop wasting my time. Nazis like you sicken me as much as the practioner of the "religion of peace and tolerance"- both are evil.

[vistavision2]

Your a fool; do your homework.

I'm American and neither arab nor muslim.

Truth: I'm Tribe of Judah.

The only National Socialists are zionists.

Your selling zionist dog vomit: We're not buying so go sell it your ignorant kind!

[manwiththecalicobag]

was Jesus(peace be upon him) the honey dipped bride of the last Jewish king , dose the Jewish elite sit laughing , they must know what the deceiver saul/paul and his plans to convince the Europeans the jews are gods chosen , its a foul lie from a people built on falsehood.

jews, Europeans ,all peoples free your self from the enslavement of there lies ,

god it truth

[ZRizik]

Down with israel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLO

[islamkoonem]

While you're chained to the hallucinations of the pig mohammed, you couldn't wipe Israeli or American ass. In another 1400 years of muslim "advancement", you can kiss their ass. Until then, you sharmootas can only talk about wiping them off the map while kissing their ass.

[islamkoonem]

Does the muslim male know anything but rage at any perceived "insult" to his religion?

As a whole, you 7th century throwbacks are pathetic, insecure losers that contribute little to humanity other than blame and persecution. You flee shitholes that islam created, and attempt to convert your adopted homelands into the same shitholes you left behind. Your choices are obvious- deal with it or fuck off.

[Inkan1969]

I've seen many different people latch on to one thing or another, and get upset at a perceived offense to that thing. That's not a uniquely Muslim flaw. Since you're the one who has to waste time hurling insults at people, you seem to be the one who seems like a very insecure loser.

[khalid210873]

dont blame isreal for the suffering of palestinians blame the arab leaders who are freinds of isreal. curent arab leaders are cowards!!!!!!!

[khalid210873]

the arab leaders are slaves of the west and isreal. they are enslaved with the lure of women and positions of power, all arab leaders are married to western women who influence their decisions and their childen study in western universitys so how can they truly represent their people. the arab leaders are very comfortable in their homes (bigger than hotels) what do they care of the suffering of palestinians and their own people. syria,egypt,jordan,saudi arabia all the leaders are corrupt.

[ijosdeputisima]

move israel to florida¡¡¡¡¡

palestine for palestinians¡¡¡¡¡

alahakbar¡¡¡¡¡

[Kamal767]

Man, Olmert is such a wacko. On the eve of the first positive development in a long time, he cannot resist the temptation to discredit the Palestinian people and what they are fighting for...

[rezasantorini]

Olmert is reflecting his negative side. After all he saw what happened when Gaza was returned. He didn't expect rockets...he had hoped for a friendly reaction. And from most of the comments on here, he is right.

[lastnymleft]

He's pessimistic about how long the truce will last for because he knows Israel will ultimately have to do something to break it, because they don't really want peace until they get ALL Eretz Israel. Of course they'll rationalize it somehow, to blame it on Hamas, as that is their modus operandi.

[ZRizik]

your right these corrupt leaders are not Arabs their pigs. Israel has no right to be there they dont belong. And if hamas and fatah unite i hope it's for the best

[bettabay]

shame the people and leaders in middle east...

believe in me, that another 60 years the condition will be the same...And the other middle east people and leaders will be still happy to watch football and invite and pays for big europe football club...

[TRINITYisLOVE]

Let us hope that now it becomes possible to rebuild a peacful relationship. This war is a pure nonsense.

[wb678]

Tell that to "God's Chosen People" who think that Gentiles are lower form of human being than them.

[rezasantorini]

I've never heard a "chosen" person say that of non-Jews...one can tell that by the comments on hear.

[lastnymleft]

Such things are never said openly, to the goyim (non-jews). Here's a quote from Jewish author, Michael Lerner:

"Hostility towards non-Jews has evolved into a distinct culture of anti-goyism.. [and] it may be as prevalent among American Jewish liberals as among Israeli right-wingers ... It's no secret that Jews disparage non-Jews behind their backs. Some Jews brag about tricking them in business, others shun them socially." [LERNER, Goyim, p.430]

See Chap 16 of:

jewishtribalreview. org/open.htm

[BamenYaros]

ummm this is what the retards say not the real Israelis, 70% of us are willig to leave the territories.

What would Ameriica do if San Diego was being rocketed?

[lastnymleft]

"70% of us are willig to leave the territories"

Well, I guess that means it's the other 30% of Israelis that are the problem.

"What would Ameriica do if San Diego was being rocketed?"

Why would America have invaded Mexico?

[BamenYaros]

you expelled the native people into Mexic o and they are comming back as Illegal immigrants in reality your whole country is ilegal, at least we are historically associated with this land, Americans hit a rock and mass murdered the native, bigger than the Holocaust

[lastnymleft]

BY: Stick to the point. You asked what would America do if San Diego was being shelled. I countered by implying that such would only happen if America invaded Mexico - a scenario analogous to what is happening in Palestine. The implication being that if the Americans wanted the shelling of SD to stop, they would just have to withdraw from this hypothetical invasion of Mexico. That's clear, and logical.

And now you come back with a series of irrelevant, scatterbrain comments? Don't waste my time

[Inkan1969]

And your idea of argumentation technique is making blanket characterizations of all Jews and demonizing all of them.

[lastnymleft]

Inkan: "And your idea of argumentation technique is making blanket characterizations of all Jews and demonizing all of them."

Provide my quotation where I have done that, or apologize.

[Inkan1969]

"Such things are never said openly, to the goyim (non-jews). Here's a quote from Jewish author, Michael Lerner:" a quote that you imply that all Jews think that way.

[lastnymleft]

"a quote that you imply that all Jews think that way."

There you go fabricating your own opposition again, by attributing something to me which I clearly did not say. If you have a problem with what JEWISH AUTHOR, MICHAEL LERNER says, take it up with him. Or provide me evidence that what he says is wrong, and I'll stop citing him. As it stands, it seems he would know better than either you or I.

[Inkan1969]

So you're saying that you're not arguing that all Jews are these stormtroopers indoctrinated in a dogma devoted to warring against us "goyim", and that they're all not these pod people inherently wired to follow this "Eretz Israel" master plan? Because all your posts sound like they insist that we accept this crazy generalization of Jews.

[lastnymleft]

"Because all your posts sound like they insist that we accept this crazy generalization of Jews."

Only because YOU seem to be a pod person, inherently wired to fabricate claims about what people say, without them having actually said it.

[Inkan1969]

So what are your claims then?

[lastnymleft]

"So what are your claims then?"

My claim is that this statement cannot be generalized:

"I've never heard a "chosen" person say that [Gentiles are lower form of human being than them]...one can tell that by the comments on hear."

...because I am aware of more informed opinions to the contrary (being the Michael Lerner quote from his book "Goyim"). I am also aware of actual evidence to support that, being scripture that I have read (Torah, or Talmud, can't remember), and written testimonies.

[Inkan1969]

And Michael Lerner's statement CAN be generalized? Can some particular written texts really be substituted for the opinions of actual living people? Like the friends of BanemYaros? Not everyone like his friends, but not everyone is like your Lerner vision either.

[lastnymleft]

"And Michael Lerner's statement CAN be generalized?"

Given that he's a Jewish social anthropologist Rabbi writing specifically about Goyim, and the Jewish interaction with such, and is considered an expert on the matter, "yes"

"Can some particular written texts really be substituted for the opinions of actual living people?"

I told you, Lerner's book was backed by scripture, and testimonies

"Like the friends of BanemYaros?"

He's 15, and has lived in a pokey town in the desert all his life

[lastnymleft]

" "And Michael Lerner's statement CAN be generalized?"

Given that he's a Jewish social anthropologist Rabbi writing specifically about Goyim, and the Jewish interaction with such, and is considered an expert on the matter, "yes" "

Let me just clarify that a bit: Lerner is not saying ALL Jews talk that way. He's saying that it IS part of the culture, and a good number do it, so cannot be denied.

[Inkan1969]

But BanemYaros does not.  You don't leave any room for Jews like him to exist.

[lastnymleft]

"But BanemYaros does not. You don't leave any room for Jews like him to exist"

In a world where you get to fabricate your opponent's positions, maybe not.

What is it with you? You're not a jew, you've never been there, but you seem to have this judaophile compulsion to roam youtube being a blind apologist for all-things-Israel, at the cost of your intellectual integrity?

Are you one of these fundamentalist Christian Zionist nutjobs trying to bring about Armageddon and the Second Coming?

[Inkan1969]

I'm not a Christian Zionist, and my posts have never been blind defenses of everything Israeli.

[lastnymleft]

"I'm not a Christian Zionist, and my posts have never been blind defenses of everything Israeli."

Could have fooled me. How else do you explain the fact that you REPEATEDLY pervert my positions, and twist them to mean something they are clearly not, despite having been REPEATEDLY told that my positions are otherwise....all to the benefit of Israel and/or jews. I know you're not dumb, so you're clearly doing it on purpose. And you're not just winding people up, because you ALWAYS support Israel.

[Inkan1969]

My responses to you are not every response I've ever made. You're misrepresent me by saying that I always support Israel.

[lastnymleft]

inkan: "My responses to you are not every response I've ever made. You're misrepresent me by saying that I always support Israel"

In every response I've ever seen by you, and in your perversion of my comments to suit your apparent agenda, you have shown your colors well enough.

[Inkan1969]

So you assume that every response I've made to you is every response I've ever made.

[Kambody]

take it easy... life's good...

[yu255673]

...Well that goes for every religion which believes their people are superior to others...religious intolerance should be banned and people should interact with each other as equal human beings...although it is an utopian goal...it is never impossible...

[lastnymleft]

"religious intolerance should be banned and people should interact with each other as equal human beings..."

I'm an atheist. All this religious nonsense pisses me off. Just imagine a world when we can get past this hocus-pocus!

[Inkan1969]

We won't imagine the genocide you want to do against religious people.

[lastnymleft]

Inkan: That's just stupid. Are you in the habit of totally fabricating the arguments of people with whom you may disagree on something? Very poor argumentation technique. Lift your game.

[Inkan1969]

Most religious people aren't fundamentalists. You didn't bother making that distinction: you wanted to sweep away everybody. Besides, religion is important to most Gazans. You think they'll see as a friend someone who'd want to destroy their own heritage?

[lastnymleft]

69: "Most religious people aren't fundamentalists. You didn't bother making that distinction"

So? Those that aren't fundamentalist are no better than irreligious people leading moral lives, so religion brings no net positives to the table. So yes, I'll be glad when everybody sees through the BS of there being an imaginary being, and just gets on with living their lives

"you wanted to sweep away everybody"

Only in your perverted mind where you get to fabricate the arguments of your opposition

[Inkan1969]

They're living their lives by practicing their own religious beliefs. If they're no worse, then why take that away from them?

[lastnymleft]

69: "They're living their lives by practicing their own religious beliefs. If they're no worse, then why take that away from them?"

Who said anything about "taking that away from them"? I said "get past". That means people realizing that it's stupid, and the negatives make it not worth it. And then just leaving it behind and getting on with their lives.

You keep attributing things to me that I have not said. Your English seems very good, so I don't think you are just misunderstanding me.

[Inkan1969]

What if it's not stupid to them:  if they've used religion to make decent lives for themselves that do not impose their beliefs on others, why not leave them be? Why do you insist that have to "get past" their own lifestyles and heritages. It's absurd for you to insist that they get on with their lives, because the things you want them to get past ARE their lives.

[lastnymleft]

"What if it's not stupid to them"

When they "get past it", it will be

"why not leave them be?"

Are you just trying to make me mad? For the THIRD TIME: I have NOT IN ANY WAY advocated involuntary action. I have told you, I want the people to get past it, as in "When will you get past this compulsion to attribute arguments to people that they do not espouse?"

"Why do you insist"

I've insisted NOTHING. I said "Imagine". You REPEATEDLY claim my positions are other than what they are. STOP IT!

[Inkan1969]

Why do you want people to "get past it" in the first place? If they're not interfering in your life, why do you care so much about how they live their lives?

It's really your own choice to lose your temper or not...

[lastnymleft]

"Why do you want people to "get past it" in the first place?"

I told you in my first post: given that people can lead moral lives without religion, religion is a net negative on humanity.

"If they're not interfering in your life, why do you care so much about how they live their lives?"

It directly affects me. If the world had "got past" this religion stupidity, what would the price of oil be?

"It's really your own choice to lose your temper or not..."

Having to repeat myself doesn't help

[Inkan1969]

If people are living moral lives with religion it's not a net negative to them. Why can't you let them live their own lives in peace? They're not jacking up the oil prices.  You're just using them as a target for your personal pogrom.

[lastnymleft]

"Why can't you let them live their own lives in peace?"

I give up. I thought you were bright, but here you are fabricating a position for me which I have rejected on AT LEAST THREE PREVIOUS OCCASIONS.

How am I interfering with them or in any way not "letting them live their own lives in peace" by wishing that they would "get past" religion? HUH??

*I'M* the one being interfered with, on a daily basis, despite not affecting *THEM*.

Theistic religion is toxic, and followers simpletons. Enough!

[Inkan1969]

You're only imagining that all religious people are interfering in your life. Only fundies try to interfere with your life, only fundies deserve to be struck back. You can't punish the rest of us. Honestly, if you really didn't care about how someone else is living their life, you wouldn't feel compelled to wish them to get past religion.

[lastnymleft]

"You're only imagining that all religious people are interfering in your life"

INDIRECT consequences. If Jews had "got past" religion would there be an Israel and middle-east conflict? If Christians had "got past" religion would there have been the Inquisition, and the Crusades? If Muslims had "got past" religion would many of their countries still be burdened by an anachronistic belief system?

"You can't punish the rest of us"

HOW AM I "PUNISHING" YOU BY WISHING THAT YOU GET PAST RELIGION??

[Inkan1969]

Making people throw away their cultural heritages is no solution to any of these conflicts. Like I said, millions of Jews, Christians and Muslims live their lives without hurting anyone else. You're advocating an injustice by demonizing their heritages and trying to take that away from them.

[lastnymleft]

"Making people..."

"You're advocating an injustice..."

"trying to take that away..."

Do you seriously not understand the concept of voluntarism? Of people doing something willingly? Of "getting past" something? You've wasted days of conversation repeating your stupid false assertions as to what my positions are. You're either much dumber than I thought, have a serious problem with comprehension, or are not conducting these conversations with honor and are deliberately misconstruing my positions

[Inkan1969]

Do you not understand the principle of live and let live? I thought a libertarian like you lived by that principle. Instead, you've been getting upset all week about people who make a choice about their religions that you don't like.

[lastnymleft]

"Do you not understand the principle of live and let live?"

Do you understand the principle of freedom of speech?

"Instead, you've been getting upset all week about people who make a choice about their religions that you don't like."

No, I'm annoyed at them, generally, for being the root cause of much of the mess we find ourselves in, but I've been getting upset all week because YOU have been perverting my positions, and attributing things to me I not only do not believe, but reject outright

[Inkan1969]

It still seems hypocritical to say you follow the principle that people can make their own decisions about their lives that do not hurt others but you still wish they were all like you. I wouldn't trust a Christian who claims he respects other religious beliefs but still insists the world would be better if everyone accepted Christ, his version, either.

[lastnymleft]

"that do not hurt others"

Fail!

[Inkan1969]

Says you.

[lastnymleft]

Inkan:

MILLIONS of people around the world have "got over" religion. They've woken up one morning, often after a long process of realization, and said "Why am I wasting my Sunday mornings and life on something that clearly ISN'T THERE? I've been living in fear, and constrained by the hope of something for which there really is no evidence. This religion's a crock. There are no gods. I'm not doing it any more."

THAT'S "GETTING OVER IT"!!

Where is the "making them" do that INDIVIDUAL process?

[Inkan1969]

That's their choice to make.  What if they make another choice instead? Should that really bother you?

[lastnymleft]

"That's their choice to make"

BINGO!! And I'm here hoping they "get over it"

"What if they make another choice instead? Should that really bother you?"

When I'm paying so much at the gas pump, because this religious-BS has contributed to high prices, it is my RIGHT to express my wish for a world where people have "got over" religion

As a theist it should bother YOU that there is so much death and destruction in the world stemming from religion, and that you are prepared to accept it blindly

[Inkan1969]

And it's our right to defy your unjust vision of a world where people who never hurt anyone with their beliefs are lumped in with the fundies. And when did I say that I accept religious injustice blindly?

[lastnymleft]

"If people are living moral lives with religion it's not a net negative to them"

It's not a net-negative to them because they get to offset all the negatives with delusions of hope-for-something-better, and unwarranted fear. It's a net negative to ME, personally, and it's a net-negative to the world, in general

"They're not jacking up the oil prices"

Religion is. They are facilitators. If they "got past" religion oil would be MUCH lower. How can there be religious conflicts without religion?

[Inkan1969]

O.K. How can there be wars without people to fight them? So let's kill all the people...

[lastnymleft]

"How can there be wars without people to fight them? So let's kill all the people..."

That's just stupid. Judaism is an artefact from 4500 years BEFORE we learned that the earth wasn't flat, or the center of the universe. It's well past time that we got past it, and other such harmful anachronisms. America is one of the worst: it's highly religious, relative to other western nations, because those in power use it as a weapon to dumb them down and control them and bring about their own agendas.

[Inkan1969]

You're telling me to lift my game? That's like Michael Brown telling me to improve my managerial skills.

[lastnymleft]

Inkan: Yes, I'm telling you to lift your game. You go saying that I want to commit genocide against all religious people, when I said absolutely nothing of the sort! I said "Just imagine a world when we can get past this hocus-pocus!" "get past" is clearly voluntary, and absolutely nothing like "wipe out by genocide". "get past" isn't even "ban", but you leaped "ban", and went straight for the most outrageous assertion you could attribute to me, despite it being blatantly false. That's libelous

[MementoExpose]

Ismaili Hanya is a war lord. Yesterday he was in Abu Dhabi having dinner while his people are starving because of his policies. What a stupid and failed politician, he should just give Gaza to Fatah and stop torturing the Palestinians,

[x11115]

all the middle eastern leaders have a screw loose. they expect their most impoverished people to lick off their feet while they live lavish lives. to them it's living like gods but tell that people that aren't part of their inner ring that have to suffer day in and day out do to their leaders iron fist.

[farzanrazi]

This is an utter bias statement which blindly tries to promote Fatah, the friends of Israelis. The Islamic world claely knows the reality.

Enough your evil work.

[yu255673]

...I take it you want this perpetual violence to continue...Peace is always better than war...

[rezasantorini]

Notice that the concept of peace gets lots of thumbs down from the Hamas readers on here. Peace with Israel is still not their desire..war is what they want and they want the backing of Muslim War Lords, not the peace lovers.

[yu255673]

...Who are the Muslim warlords?...Which decent human being does not want to live in peace?. It goes for both Israelis and Palestinians...

[rezasantorini]

Yes, it does..but if you look at the attack on Jews and Israel on this and even the negative comments in the video but no negative comments about the Muslims negativeness.  As a native of Bethlehem, now a US citizen (not Jewish) I want peace for all my friends and family who remain back in the territory and Israel.