awful interpretation... i suspect he plays this way because he cant make the chord changes fast enough lke David Russel, who interprets this piece magnificently.
I heard the DR's Mudarra on YouTube : he plays exactly the music, with a metronome in his heart, J.Williams'style. I played like that when I was 20. Afterwards I wanted to SPEAK with the music, not talking. The music written is not the music, that's the problem. For example listen to the harpist Andrew Lawrence-King in the same piece. I am not sure that my playing is the correct interpretation, but this is mine. Not because of chord changes ! but for I love this piece above all. You are judge."
Your comment's Siroco just show your immaturity and lack of a deep understanding of music. I agree completely with Brisemenu. People forget that music is not just a mathmatical exercise. For example, given that there are two contrasting ways to play this piece (metronomically and expressively) how do you know that the composer did not intend it to played expressively? How do you know that he didn't play it this way himself? Sheet music doesn't always have this information.
First off, Im a Music Major at Fresno State studying History of Western Music and am currently studying reinassance music which Mudarra was from. This was the time when the treatise of Franco de Cologne on notation value (ca. 13 century Ars Cantus Mesuaribilis) was digested and a standard. Mudarra of the 15ce studied and composed on this standard. He meant for interpretors to play it as he wrote it. This interpretation is highly unlikely to be what he wanted on that ground. David Russel follows
I just wanted to add, despite the way in which the composer may or may not have played or intended the piece, as an artist you still have the right, and should do it YOUR WAY. Personally if I composed a piece of music, I would hate it if every artist played it exactly how I play it myself.
If JOhan Sebastian Bach was here, he would laugh in your face because he wrote songs and intended people to play them with a certain discipline and technique as did Beethoven and Tchaikosky...why would anyone bother to put a time signature to establish a meter in time if meter and precise reading was not important? Do some research. This debate has long since been finished and maintaining that note value has finally been established thanks to de Cologne's work in 13ce and others...
furthermore, this can show us how in a gap in time can make people interpret songs in an erroneous fashion, specially if they dont study how this music was meant to be played.
I dont argu against this being a modern interpretation, where one could probably add a bass guitar, drummer, and a singer to make a jazzy intrepretation of this song... That would be cool...
I was merely critiquing the lack of musical integrity on behalf of this interpretation, which has its own merits...y not.
"Personally if I composed a piece of music, I would hate it if every artist played it exactly how I play it myself. "
then you have no craft and nothing to say musically... except a bunch of spazzed out jazz licks... Bach's musical craft demanded that those who dared play his songs would have a hell of a time playing at his level, which was impecable. His music written in fugues, inventions, tocattas etc established a standard for the world to behold...wherein there was true craft
Your comment are rather presumptuous and peremptory, young man. As a matter of fact, Dumond CAN play like Russell but that does not mean that he should. If you like to Yawn during a concert, that's your problem. But don't you dare question his musical integrity!
Your confidence in your knowledge is astonishing. Did you know Bach and Mudarra personally?
Furthermore, anyone can give their opinion because its a FREE COUNTRY. I dont know where youre from but just remember that fact when you try speak down on my opinion you sound pretty pompous yourself LAmuaresaer whatever your name is
A very strange and headstrong interpretation of Mudarra's Fantasia. Nevertheless this is the most beautiful and inspirational version I've ever heard of this piece, and I've heard many.
awful interpretation... i suspect he plays this way because he cant make the chord changes fast enough lke David Russel, who interprets this piece magnificently.
SIROCOguitar 2 years ago
I heard the DR's Mudarra on YouTube : he plays exactly the music, with a metronome in his heart, J.Williams'style. I played like that when I was 20. Afterwards I wanted to SPEAK with the music, not talking. The music written is not the music, that's the problem. For example listen to the harpist Andrew Lawrence-King in the same piece. I am not sure that my playing is the correct interpretation, but this is mine. Not because of chord changes ! but for I love this piece above all. You are judge."
brisemenu 2 years ago
Your comment's Siroco just show your immaturity and lack of a deep understanding of music. I agree completely with Brisemenu. People forget that music is not just a mathmatical exercise. For example, given that there are two contrasting ways to play this piece (metronomically and expressively) how do you know that the composer did not intend it to played expressively? How do you know that he didn't play it this way himself? Sheet music doesn't always have this information.
jazzadellic 2 years ago
First off, Im a Music Major at Fresno State studying History of Western Music and am currently studying reinassance music which Mudarra was from. This was the time when the treatise of Franco de Cologne on notation value (ca. 13 century Ars Cantus Mesuaribilis) was digested and a standard. Mudarra of the 15ce studied and composed on this standard. He meant for interpretors to play it as he wrote it. This interpretation is highly unlikely to be what he wanted on that ground. David Russel follows
SIROCOguitar 2 years ago
I just wanted to add, despite the way in which the composer may or may not have played or intended the piece, as an artist you still have the right, and should do it YOUR WAY. Personally if I composed a piece of music, I would hate it if every artist played it exactly how I play it myself.
jazzadellic 2 years ago
If JOhan Sebastian Bach was here, he would laugh in your face because he wrote songs and intended people to play them with a certain discipline and technique as did Beethoven and Tchaikosky...why would anyone bother to put a time signature to establish a meter in time if meter and precise reading was not important? Do some research. This debate has long since been finished and maintaining that note value has finally been established thanks to de Cologne's work in 13ce and others...
SIROCOguitar 2 years ago
furthermore, this can show us how in a gap in time can make people interpret songs in an erroneous fashion, specially if they dont study how this music was meant to be played.
I dont argu against this being a modern interpretation, where one could probably add a bass guitar, drummer, and a singer to make a jazzy intrepretation of this song... That would be cool...
I was merely critiquing the lack of musical integrity on behalf of this interpretation, which has its own merits...y not.
SIROCOguitar 2 years ago
musical and historical integrity that is....
SIROCOguitar 2 years ago
"Personally if I composed a piece of music, I would hate it if every artist played it exactly how I play it myself. "
then you have no craft and nothing to say musically... except a bunch of spazzed out jazz licks... Bach's musical craft demanded that those who dared play his songs would have a hell of a time playing at his level, which was impecable. His music written in fugues, inventions, tocattas etc established a standard for the world to behold...wherein there was true craft
SIROCOguitar 2 years ago
@SIROCOguitar
Your comment are rather presumptuous and peremptory, young man. As a matter of fact, Dumond CAN play like Russell but that does not mean that he should. If you like to Yawn during a concert, that's your problem. But don't you dare question his musical integrity!
Your confidence in your knowledge is astonishing. Did you know Bach and Mudarra personally?
Quit music and start studying law or typography.
Lamaure 2 years ago
"dont dare question his musical integrity"? wow... you clearly dont challenge academic "authority"... are you his protege or apologist?
Yeah, maybe Darwin should have never challenged the scientists of his time when he wrote his Magnus Opus...
No one was talking to you. MOreover, nobody needs to see how underdeveloped your frontal lobe is.
If he was that good, then I would have never expressed how bad this performance is.. this can follow logically right? did you catch that?
SIROCOguitar 2 years ago
Furthermore, anyone can give their opinion because its a FREE COUNTRY. I dont know where youre from but just remember that fact when you try speak down on my opinion you sound pretty pompous yourself LAmuaresaer whatever your name is
SIROCOguitar 2 years ago
A very strange and headstrong interpretation of Mudarra's Fantasia. Nevertheless this is the most beautiful and inspirational version I've ever heard of this piece, and I've heard many.
C'est fantastique!
epamin371 3 years ago
Uplifting is the word.
Arnaud is my favorite interpreter of renaissance pieces.
You should listen to his Dowland' Forlone hope fantasy. So free but so Amazingly just!
Lamaure 3 years ago
why this flamenco impromptus??? in a renaiscence tune?
liberamateur 3 years ago
there is no flamenco impromptu here (Mudarra)
elsewhere this is a coloured moment which links past and future
relation between artifice and truth...
brisemenu 3 years ago