U.S. Constitution- the mini series; Intro & Preamble

[914light]

@7thThunder... that has been destroyed !

[jhenderson1647]

In 18th Century English, most nouns were capitlized just like they are in German today. You cant't ready anything into the fact that the P in people is capitalized in the Constitution any more than you can in any 18th century writing. Language changes with use. The constitution is not a contract--its vastly superior to any contract.

[PhillipOrion]

In the preamble, why is the P in People capitalized on the contract? People of the United States, that's the name of the corporate entity,and the men that signed it are the only ones that are party to the contract? Then the Posterity, also capitalized, means their bloodline? So citizens of the United States aren't a party to the contract so citizens of the United States have exactly zero rights?

[skinnychef]

that is a really good question phillip, and i do not really have an answer, tho your argument makes alot of sense bathed in the light of corporate personhood and the corporate oligarchy which rules today. i also see the preamble as applicable to all people in as far as we ALL have free will, and laws are an AGREEMENT between ourselves and the ruling class. rather, subjugation requires compliance and will.

[PhillipOrion]

Do I, as a living man, an Inhabitant of the land, have rights I was born with? Do I need a piece of paper to grant me rights? Do I need to write my own international treaty to claim my rights since I didn't sign the constitution and I'm not a blood relative of someone that did? I just have a couple of rights I want to claim. Don't touch or damage my property and don't deceive me in your contracts. If I do need to write my own treaty, where do I send it? The Hague?

[newgtguy]

Phillip is 100% correct. Notice the difference between the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. The DOI talks about God granted inalienable rights. The Constitution gives goverment granted "Civil Rights."

The Constitution creates two political classes and most of us are not "of the people." If you are a Citizen (the lower political class) you are in a condition of total voluntary servitude.

I am a sovereign, put here by my creator.

[ConstitutionLive]

Hi skinnychef! We created a group over at Facebook for people who have read the Constititution all the way through on video. Come join facebook and we will add you to the group. Also check out ConstitutionLive . com. It's a site that is trying to get everyone - especially elected officals to read the Constitution on camera just like you!

[xraptor10]

WANNA GO TO CAMP!?

BUSH 08!

[Grimhilde7]

if We The People really enforced the REAL Constitution of The United States,and really held many public officials daed to rights,so many of them would just simply have to be hanged for so many voilations of their Oath Of Office.....i took my oath seriously,both an oath of enlistment and later of commission,time for us to enforce it for everybody,even if it costs a few dead senators,congressmen and even the president and VP.

[newgtguy]

Hate to break it to you, but you are not of "The People" as stated in the preamble to the Constitution.

[Grimhilde7]

if not,then who is?

[newgtguy]

Those who signed it and their posterity. Notice how the "P's" in people and posterity are capitalized. These folks were looking out for themselves and their bloodlines.

[hallowking]

THE COSTITUTION IS ALMOST GONE ....

[skinnychef]

it's our right and responsibility to keep it intact. whatever rights we have relinquished CAN be regained, but only with COCERTED EFFORT!

thanks for your involvement!

[kmbrplmr]

I think this comment is a LITTLE melodramatic! It's not that bad!!!

[Zipster08]

I don't understand why this video was attached to mine??

[skinnychef]

just what you were saying about doing the effortless videos, and i figured you to be a fan of the constitution...

thanks for linking it up!!!

[dancingsprite]

Right in the preamble we have a lost cause. "We the people" Right!!! It's all about the corporations and greed now. The government could care less about "the people". Just my cynical 2 cents.

[dsaz92]

Hello ! (dsaz91,danadi33) . Please, I want to let me know, when and what was something changed under people's presure ?! Thanks to the induced paranoia (enemies everywere, disasters, aliens' attaks ?!, asteroids, nuclear weapons, ... ) you, people, gave free hand to your political leaders to make your life .

[wardbingham]

i am looking forward to following this

fantastic idea.

[skinnychef]

thanks ward! glad to have your input!!!

[johnq54]

Is it just me, or is the Skinny Chef fat? Oh Yea, I forgot, Video adds 300 pounds!

[wardbingham]

sending LOVE to johnq54

[skinnychef]

yeah honey, more bounce to the oz...but, wait, is it just me, or are you kind of off subject and rude?

Do you have anything constructive to add, or do you just want to make an ass of yourself?

[johnq54]

Well, Making an ass out of myself is something I am quite good at. I just found amusing, the contradiction of your user name and appearance.

[skinnychef]

yes, john, that is apparent! but honestly, I invite you to subscribe and be a part of the discussion!!!

[Bree5]

No, I think hes just needing to change his channel!...Looking forward to what people will have to say!..Im still trying to learn all this, and from the looks of what Im learning the Patriotic Act has pretty much given the goverment an open door policy now. Thanks for starting a topic. Many aren't brave like you to attack it! ...HUGS to you girl! :)

[skinnychef]

If you have trouble posting comments please let me know! seems like they are being blocked or something...thanks! skinnychef

[digitusmaximus]

Of course I think the Constitution itself is not controversial. Because it is lacking in details, though, there is much controversy over the interpretation of the amendments in the Bill of Rights. However, the main/worst problem today is how the Constitution/Bill of Rights are being violated, by a completely corrupt government, whose only interest is making trillions in profit for "those who rule". But, that's _always_ been the main/worst problem.

[skinnychef]

it wil continue to be the worst problem, but we have the right and responsibility to stand up to this abuse of power, don't you think?

[digitusmaximus]

Absolutely. I was outraged when Congress recently passed the act which allows the executive branch to selectively ignore the right of detainees to Habeas Corpus. That law has to be reversed ASAP. I'm hoping that enough citizens will harp about it to their Congresscritters, that Congress will repeal the law, but I doubt that will happen. I fear it will have to reach the Supreme Court, which means that thousands of people will be unjustly imprisoned in the meantime.

[MusiCureSanity]

seconding DM's call to repeal any and all laws which the current admin got through congress. it is up to the people of the US to protect and defend the constitution since the current leaders are a sham!

[newgtguy]

Are you a Citizen of the United States?

[Urgelt]

Good idea, SC.

The constitution will not protect itself. That's the responsibility of every citizen, every generation. If we forget that, it will be lost to power-hungry politicians. Once lost, it will be forever gone.

[skinnychef]

Thanks Urgelt!!!

"No government can be maintained without the principle of fear as well as duty. Good men will obey the last, but bad ones the former only. If our government ever fails, it will be from this weakness." --Thomas Jefferson to John Wayles Eppes, 1814.

[blueairstream]

Orale,

allways a good topic....

The simplicity of the constitution makes it a very complicated read.

Julie

[skinnychef]

hi jules!!!

ain't that the truth! it's all in the iterpretation!

thanks for tuning in, and i look forward to your interpretations!

[queenlizzie]

The best and the worst thing about the Constitution is that it's a living, breathing document that can be interpreted just about any way a judge wants it to be interpreted. The preamble is one of the least useful parts of the Constitution, in my opinion. I can't wait for the most fun and interesting part--The Bill Of Rights. Maybe I can put my poli sci degree to good use. ;)

[skinnychef]

great!!! we have to get through the mechanics to uncover the spirit of the document! and i am excited about the bill of rights too! does that make me a geek?

short answer--i don't care!!! hahaha! thanks for your support, lizzie!!!

[queenlizzie]

If that makes you a geek, I'm Queen Geek. I keep a pocket-sized copy of the Constitution in my bag wherever I go.

[skinnychef]

hahahaha! you are my new hero!!! where do i get one?

[queenlizzie]

www.constitutionfacts*dot*com -- click "Bookstore" in the upper right nav bar. $2 shipping and handling, and it's all yours! ;)

[jen24marie]

hehe, and I thought I was the only one :-)

[vestalallen]

The Homeland Security office produces pamphlets for Texas law enforcement advising them to be suspicious of young men who are polite to authority figures and can quote the constitution. Good thing you are a woman!

[skinnychef]

don't worry, i am totally beligerant!!! hahaha!

[MusiCureSanity]

rUcReUS? any1who can quote the constitution should NOT be held in contempt or disdain. being polite to a Texan... another matter.

thanks skinnychef for your very informative posts.

eLi in Japan

[touristindc]

queenlizze,

Agreed, the preamble is one of the least useful parts of the Constitution in terms of specifics but it is extremely important in giving us insight as to the original intent and spirit of the Document. Isn't this what our administration and a lot of us have lost sight of -- the enlightened ideals that our Rad Forbearers aspired to emulate?

[queenlizzie]

It's important to those using the document for historical visionary purposes, but it's not useful in today's interpretations, no. Today's judicial system relies much more heavily on the meat of the document, not the fluff, and the preamble is fluff. It's great for lofty conversation, but it's virtually useless in actual application, and I'm interested in the application of the document.

[skinnychef]

from touristindc to lizzie

Regardless of what today's interpretations are, if the intent is to break down the Constitution, even "fluff" cannot be dismissed. Coming away from these discussions with a rehashed idea of what our forbearer's "lofty" intent may have been, compared to today's real world applications would be interesting and illuminating for some of us. Your pragmatism is a point well taken, and I also look forward to the Bill of Rights.

[LiberalViewer]

Thx 4 opening up the topic. Some good info is at: caselaw.lp.findlaw*DOT*com/dat­a/constitution/preamble/

(replace *DOT* with . and paste into your browser)

The preamble reminds us that the source of POWER is THE PEOPLE

5 stars and added to favs :-)

[skinnychef]

additionally, that We the People have the responsibility to preserve our freedom, not only for ourselves, but also future generations! just getting started here...thanks for your support LV!!!

[touristindc]

"The problem is to find a form of association which will defend and protect with the whole common force the person and goods of each associate, and in which each, while uniting himself with all, may still obey himself alone. and remain as FREE AS BEFORE."

Rousseau, Jean-Jacques: The Social Contract (1762)

[skinnychef]

isn't this the basis of our constitution? i appreciate your insight!!! more to come!!!

[touristindc]

Right on!

[MysterEy1]

Remarkable. Let's set the record straight. But we have to put our thinking caps on, to do the interpretation.

[skinnychef]

thanks for your support MysterEy1...stay tuned for more!!!

[skinnychef]

what about Posterity? Domestic Tranquility? General Welfare?