Day 10 - 30 Pedals in 30 Days - Heaviest Metal Pedal?? Electro Harmonix Metal Muff EHX NAMM '10 2010

[TheELPazzaro]

beast!

[amazingaustin13]

throw a behringer or boss ge 7 in front of it and scoops the mids, nothing can beat it

[troutfishpaste]

Yamaha super hard distortion, it's the heaviest distortion i played so far.

[ruzzipezzore]

Hi Toneking, do you know another good "hi-gain" distortion pedal with 3 parametric eq controls but without a boost switch? thanks :)

[tripp6575]

anyone help me on what distortion is best for grindcore?? old school napalm death/carcass sound?

[BrujoAsesino123]

@tripp6575 the Boss ml2 metalcore sounds good for any extreme punk or metal style

[1212yamum1212]

So many amp heads..:DDDDD

[j05h885]

Love it...

[ZEGO24x]

@LemoNxWedgE -Yep, check again, it's in there!

[MrColy69]

I love Top Boost

[balalayker]

A metal pedal being demonstrated by the other music genre played...

[KrazzyKripples]

if you are going to show a pedal for metal (especially one with metal in the name) could please actually play some metal? im a real metal guy and i find no ones review helpful because they keep playing classical rock.

[iPoIsOnOuSx]

i have this pedal and it does sound heavy, its just the pick ups of that guitar in this vid, people should check other videos of it

[DamageIncM]

Hi, I have a question for you:

What pedal should I get if I want to get a good warm but heavy and fairly versatile distortion out of a LabSeries L7 amplifier?

I know I should probably replace this with a decent AMP instead, cause this one's really vintage and all.

But still, do you have any tips on warming and distorting up a really clean Solid State vintage amp?

I have a Line 6 DM4, but its digital technology probably doesn't help the "shrillness".

Don't like it too much.

[mrguitarman1995]

i am convinced that the electro harmonics metal muff and the ibanez tube screamer are the two greatest distortion petals ever

[100roberthenry]

probably sounds better with actual metal riffs....not lame ones.. :)

[joemakin94]

Not heavy enough!

[TheELPazzaro]

@joemakin94 you serious? xD



[Imat00l]

This pedal is a motherfucker! -ONLY if you use a separate EQ after it whether in an loop or front of amp. The top boost is really handy but it isn't for riffing. And that guitar sounds like it needs heavier strings for whatever tuning it's at.

[xxvogricxx]

i fucking like xD

[Fanatical86]

I don't get it! Why do all people fall in for the Metal Muff, it is total crap IMO when confronted with Distortion Factory or Metal Zone.... The Metal Muff is all sizzle I wouldn't want it anywhere near my pedal armada!

[buffylover2007]

@Fanatical86

LOL a good overdrive pedal and a decent amp will get you better tone.

[Fanatical86]

@buffylover2007 ... Surely! But comparing the costs of bying a nice head (Krank, Engle, Mesa) and a decent cabinet (Kustom will do just fine in this case) and getting a decent set of peals well, you pay much more for the amp and heads.

Moreover, even thought what you said is 100% correct, it doesn't give you the felxibility of sound. I know some serious guitarists who are constricted to buy two or three heads just to get the versatility.

So, if you have shitloads of money to spend in amps....

[wrona003]

hated it, sounds like a high freq. explosion, kills the metal heavy tone

[RandyScreams]

Great pedal own one



[ZachWyat1]

Not to be a Troll or anything but the Fullbore Metal is so much better, I have both so i know.If you want to see for yourself I am going to do a demo of the both of them and compare so check it out.

[TheGubernot]

Great vid Great concept! You have to try ALL of them out! I own loads and they do different things. My favourite by far is the Boss Hm-2 and it bewilders me why Boss never just reissued it! Metal Zone/core/hm3 etc etc never cut it for Metal imo. Believe me nothing drives a Marshall like an Hm-2 flat out. Unsubtle, not versatile, obstinate, cranky... but perfect.

[stevenowen82]

TONE KING: THX FOR ALL THE VIDEOS! I ALWAYS CONSULT YOUR VIDEOS ON EQUIPMENT. I'M WONDERING IF A SOLID STATE AMP WOULD MAKE A HUGE DIFFERNCE IN THE METAL MUFFS TONE? I HAVE SEARCHED HIGH AND LOW FOR A DEMO THAT INCLUDES A SOLID STATE AMP. I PLAY A LES PAUL CLASSIC WITH DUNCAN DISTORTION PUPS. INTO A DIGITECH RP 500 AND THEN A FENDER G-DEC 30. PERHAPS THE DIGITECH COULD COMPENSATE FOR THE LACK OF "TUBE TONE", BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF YOU HAD AN OPINION. THX, STEVEO

[stevenowen82]

@stevenowen82

[hampurilainenXXL]

Oh and I THINK I got an orgasm or something...

[hampurilainenXXL]

Do want. DO WANT.

[ZackAdams2013]

im gettin this for Christmas

[jImBothedoctor]

why you waste your life being in this little room when you can be jamming live!!!

[a7xzeppelin95]

too much talk

[1006dude]

p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-pp-p-p-p--­pp-pp-piece of shit for drop A

shit for slipknot trust me i made a mistake

[apophis135]

@1006dude Slipknot sucks anyway...why would you use it for that?

[Colargolator]

@1006dude Its made for true metal, if you want to play slipknot get a kiddy pedal, a metal zone or a fullbore...

[MrRastaman375]

ALL Them Head's! And a little Orange Pix 2 watt!

[pablonoxi]

how many amps have you got? O.O

[szadgan]

@rokr4christ777

Well, i have the MXR...and admittedly i didnt try this one cause i couldnt find it in the shops...but the MXR so far has proven to be very versatile, although it does take some playing with the controls to get a good sound

[killingfield666]

i own one for my bass it roulez XD

[sim0nst3r]

how would this work with a tubescreamer???



[Botdra]

@sim0nst3r It works great with a tube screamer in front of it. I use a TS9 with the MM for my solo sound. Love it to death! I set the MM at about half gain, dial in the tone I want (about 2-3 o'clock treble, 10 o'clock mids, 2-3 o'clock bass) and use that as a rhythm tone. Then I throw on the TS9 in front of (before) it. I have the TS9 set fairly low on the gain, no more than 1/3rd of the way up ever, usually 1/4th. You get screaming sustain and it's amazing!!

[sim0nst3r]

@Botdra thanks alot man i really appreciate it, can´t wait two more weeks till my ts9 arrives and put it together with my MM :D

[Botdra]

@sim0nst3r No problem! I have to say I don't like the TS9 very much, but with the MM it's great for a solo sound. Hope you enjoy the combo!

[sim0nst3r]

how would this work with a tubescreamer???

[sim0nst3r]

how would this work with a tubescreamer??

[hepatitis123]

So, I got myself one of these beasts. Should I be running it through the front of my amp, or the FX loop? I'm playing a Bugera 333XL head

[Ivokbg]

@hepatitis123 Dist pedal always in front. In the loop you can put modulation effects like chorus, delays, flangers etc.

[supersucker72]

can this pedal be tweaked to sound like a big muff?

[AwesomeBuddy12]

This thing is awesome!!!

[hisham3000]

Hii TTK .. with ur permission only i would like to post 2 links for 2 covers i did using only the Metal Muff for distortion and maybe a 3rd one that ill post soon ??

[XxicruffesionalxX]

i know whats heavier than this

put a metal zone on a triple recifier amp with full gain and boost for both.. also turn on the distortion on the amp then add a compressor...HEAVIEST THING ULL EVER HEAR!!!!... now turn upp the volume and hot wire ur pick ups.. nothing heavier than that.

[shawntmartin]

The problem is... all of these kids are asking you what the heaviest sounding pedal is... and you are testing these pedals by playing hair band rock chords. They don't play this pinch harmonic, leather pants fluff. These kids are tuned way lower than you and are playing brutal, grinding, "chugga, chugga" rhythms. Go listen to some Machine Head, Mushroom head, Meshuggah, etc... then try again. Take it from a 39 yr old who has searched FOREVER for the thickest, nastiest, bonecrushing gain.

[jaki54321]

@shawntmartin sounds like a good idea. But pick bands that dont suck please ;D

[shawntmartin]

I'll take the wink icon as you were kidding.... Meshuggah has the heaviest guitar tone ever recorded.. oh and by the way... they have time signatures that make even good guitarists confused. ;D

[jaki54321]

@shawntmartin Meshuggah is good but the rest blow ;D

[MitchxxWilly]

@shawntmartin Exactly man, have you found a good pedal yet for those sounds? I listen to all of those bands and I always play around drop A and A standard.

[masthefool]

what should i get a mxr distortion + or this one

[reditreefrogs]

@masthefool The Metal Muff with top boost is an amazing unit for replicating the 80's American hair metal sound...It's chunky and loaded with enough distortion you will be very very pleased with it...3 band EQ (trem.mid.bass)

The MXR distortion+ is week and wrongly labled by MXR..(vol. dist.) It's more of an over drive sound and when maxed out it sounds like a fuzz pedal...I own both and depending on what sound your looking for the two are very differant.

I hope this helped...

[collinallenparishute]

does its distortion get deep enough to acheive that really "chunky" metalcore sound?

[baune121]

Omg! I want to be in that room!

[CiRcAsk8xTyrant]

89.95 at guitar center. :) think i might pick one up. one question, How does it sound when playing extreme metal?

[peeps2i]

i think the heaviest distortion is the BOSS ML-2 ... i dont say the best pedal but i think its the heaviest... HM-3 is good too xD

[mabt09]

whats your job how do you buy those amps and pedal??

[dmyers93]

I'm not getting why analog pedals are better?

[guitarfreakeddd]

i think the boss metal zone is heavier

[downshiftrocks]

@guitarfreakeddd Yeah man. I have both the metal muff and the metal zone, and I'm not sure which is heavier, but I definitely enjoy the tone of the boss way more. The top boost on this video actually sounds really good, but when I ran it through my crappy amp, it just made me cringe with how much treble it produced.

[guitarfreakeddd]

@downshiftrocks yeah same here

[hepatitis123]

Oh my god, no wonder it's called the Metal Muff. With the Top Boost, it sounds like sex.

[fireshark999]

if ur amp isnt tubed the top boost sounds like shit. way to much feed back too much treble its just horible.i need to put the level on it like on 2 for it to sound ok but the pedal without the boost sounds like sex! I play in a deathcore band so blah

[justin0185]

listen can you PLEASE do a comparo. this vs the mxr fullbore metal.. NO ONE has done a comparision. i have this and want to know how it compares with the mxr fullbore.

[TEHTACOMANG]

I wonder what TTK's electric bill is each month due to all the freaking gear being hooked up.

[ChrisONGuitar1]

Sorry But gotta stay true

MT2 all the way

[TheTrooper80]

really the best

[Reapz13]

The Metal Muff is a great pedal. Most distortion pedals I've had I crank up all the way and they still don't have enough balls for me. The Metal Muff, however, usually doesn't need the gain cranked past 3/4 to be over the top as hell. For me, it was a choice between either this or a Boss Metal Zone. I, personally, like the EQ more on the Metal Zone but, seeing as though I have an EQ pedal, that snatched the Boss's one advantage away from it and I went with the Metal Muff. Damn good metal pedal.

[hepatitis123]

I've only ever used the Metal Zone, and as far as price goes, it's a good buy. But this video... Wow, does that ever sound good. :)

[RelaxationII]

I had a Metal Muff with Top Boost before. It can really get Petrucci's Jaws of Life tone.

I'm wanting to buy one again. I'm looking into the Nano Metal Muff. Should I get the biggest version or the Nano Metal Muff is just fine already? I'd be running a 10-band eq after for what it's worth.

[mudbone80]

The Blackstar HT-DISTX is definitely the heaviest pedal out there, you have to do review of one sometime ToneKing :)

[metalmader]

this pedal is soooo good, i would definately suggest getting the e/hx hum debugger cos it hums pretty bad and i find it improves the tone a bit

[dragnmastr521]

I own the Metal Muff, and I must say I love it. I've gone to Guitar Center and tried the different things they have there, but I liked the MMuff most out of all the pedals around that price range.

My friend doesn't like the tone, but I hate his tone.

Different strokes for different folks, y'know?

I think this is a good pedal for people who want a good distortion and metal sound at home.

[lllwastelll]

i like when the top boost is on , sounds lame without it . i like thin guitar sound

[gabsdewabs]

I really think this metal muff is gr8 and I love metal so it's awesome.THIS IS THE LAST THING I WOULD LIKE

[WakizashiSabre]

Hi TTK. Thank you for such an ice reviews. I think MMuff is realatively similar to MT2. I guess a quality is same as good. Those good pedals are sturdy, good-sounding but also relatively quite expensive compared to Behringer (which is lower quality), but on other side Ultra metal sound same as MT2. I was shocked when I heard it :-D

[CJ101nicKA]

well it sounds nice but i want more of a CC or Dethklok powerful tone, you know?

[WakizashiSabre]

You HAVE to NOT COMPARE differend sound because TTK Use different tunning man. CC are drop A or B if I am correct. TTK is Standard E If I am listening well. Wanna brutal sound? I ll lend you Xiphos in A standard.

[GNRrockerdude]

those tunings are WAY low. your strings must flop around dude.

[maowcat]

@GNRrockerdude i hope that's a joke...

[itsameian]

@GNRrockerdude Sounds like it is only tuned down a half step from standard.

[greekerthebetter89]

@GNRrockerdude not really lower tunings you just compensate for a thicker gauge string.

[pedraw]

I think it sounds great on my monitors. No top boost please.

[fullnamecro]

made in nyc my ass. it's made in china.

[pe0pleeqlsht]

Hey ttk that thing sounds weak. If you want a real distortion pedal check out the new mxr fullbore metal. I picked one up the other day and it is the heaviest beefiest sound I have ever herd. I got that running in front of a bugera 6262 212 and god damn it sounds great. I'd love to see you review it in an upcomming vid. You rock! \m/

[CJ101nicKA]

KK JCM? does it give a fucking brutal tone ?

[emodudee]

would this pedal work well with a solid state amp, like a flextone iii, i heard they dont

[CJ101nicKA]

you know what you should really do ? a tone comparison between a krank krankenstein and a marshall amp with a guitar tuned down to C with thick strings to show which amp actually gives a really nice brutal sound. just never saw it and i wana decide which i should get already xD

[themaninblac]

i hate that pedal so much dont buy it

[evergreenrocks]

isnt the top boost supposed to be som sort of a solo boost?

[guitar1191]

pretty heavy, but not the heaviest. btw, love the 30 day thing. after this you should do another 30 day series.

[eddyjok]

maybe it´s no the heaviest

but damn it is one of the best sounding

best dist stompbox i´ve ever heard, never stays home

[Archermahly]

Krank Distortus Maximus

[purpleinthehead]

If your in dc go to action music gots tons of AMAZING pedals and amps and TONS of vintage guitars and other gear

[38decembers]

There's alot of GOOD pedals out there(rocktron metal planet,metal muff,line 6 insane etc)and even the dod grunge pedal(I hate grunge)but it sounds pretty heavy.I personally think boss sucks balls-but the best distortion pedal ever imo is-------------drum roll please---the ZOOM TRI-METAL!!!Although discontinued-it kills-you can still find them sometimes used on Ebay...Check it out...

[Steve0585]

used to own one of these. great, great pedal.

[oysterlicker]

that pedal is really solid!

[haharoadkillking]

I use a Line 6 Uber Metal, my self. 3 stages of gain, 2 stage noise reduction, and your typical Bass/Mid/High/Gain/Volume knob as well as a Mid Scoop/Boost knob. Was about $100 but sounds pretty good.

[stratshredder]

Guys, try Solid Metal by Damage Control ..one of the best out there

[zomgzomglawlawlawl]

im sorry, but the keeley metal zone destroys any metal pedal ive ever heard period

[thehasslessydney]

metal zone sounds like a polished poop

[zomgzomglawlawlawl]

you didnt even look at what i said. i said KEELEY metal zone. do you know who robert keeley is? do a little bit of research bro.

[thehasslessydney]

okay i will rephrase that - notice how i say 'polished' so as to recognized that there is some sort of improvement to the original

the KEELEY metal zone sounds like a polished poop.

[zomgzomglawlawlawl]

you have no clue what your talking about

[thehasslessydney]

im sure it is brilliant quality and its magnificent and its wonderful and it comes with a built in blow job machine but bar the last part its fucking boring as hell. no matter how well someone pulls off a scooped lead tone its still just a boring old scooped lead tone. i dont care for it at all. also, keeley are way overrated.

[kesx]

Love my Keeley!

[fezjammer]

Dude, are you on the rag? If you don't like the tone, just don't listen. Easy as that.

[carloberti]

This is much better than a Metal Zone, sorry....

[GimmeMyGibson]

the new metalcore ML-2s are very nice though

[carloberti]

Indeed it is. Epicly heavy.

[JAMVVK]

whats the diference between analog and digital?

[lmsjr]

Digital is 0's and 1's (which is a sample of an analog tone). Digital samples (replays / reconstructs) analog sound.

[JAMVVK]

can you give me examples of analog and digital amplifiers? please

[illusionfreak]

So the Top Boost is the shit engager right?

[odnick]

Shoot this out with the Boss MT-2 pedal!!!

[SwampAshHSS]

@odnick , metal zone owns all (except power tube overdrive)

[Ghold125]

the Metal zone and this are just boxes of fizz

[SwampAshHSS]

yeah, i don't use them..but if i had to pick a distortion pedal...i'de go with metal zone....metal zone is a box of "fizz" to someone who doesn't have good ears for tweaking parametric EQ's.

but it's all about power-stage tube overdrive...nothing beats a tube amp running on 11.

[peteshredder]

Guns n Roses is the first thing that comes to mind when you started playing with this pedal.

[BCRichGuitarsFTW]

is this pedal analog or digital?

[gainaddict]

analog

[BCRichGuitarsFTW]

wow. thats sick.

so im assuming all of EHX pedals are analog as well

[almostsk8er01]

how about the mxr fullbore metal for a heavier sound?

[tony93666]

turn down the top boost abit, say to 11:00 o'clock, and use it just for solos...

lots of good metal pedals out there

[gblaisg]

i own it and i use the top boost for solos at 9:00, over this, it becomes harsh and it hurt the ears, but it's a great pedal.

[TheGusto69]

Sweet pedal, and i gotta say, i like the top boost, fiddle with mids and i think you could get great sounds with it. Anyone still using a MT2 from Boss (metal zone)? Those things have been around forever and still put many pedals to shame. Anyway, i definately rate this pedal.

[SwampAshHSS]

@TheGusto69 , yeah the metal zone is still the best...attributed to its major parametric EQ. major control over the mids and the overdrive because the eq comes before the overdrive.....BOSS MT2 IS THE BEST DISTORTION PEDAL....PERIOD, THERE IS NO DEBATE.

but power tube overdrive is still the best way to get tone.

[hellsing1983]

The tone without the top boost sounds great

[veers0r]

The metal muff is a pretty cool pedal but the top boost ist over the top, and not not in a positive way.

And yup, you should mic your amp.

[ExiledCrow]

Great sounds without the top boost, with it on I don't like it as much. But maybe if everything was tuned down real low and you needed bit of kick back up .... Good review!

[sebby696969]

awsome pedal

[reditreefrogs]

Hello TK, I bought a used Death Metal pedal from Guitar Center...it's way over the top for my taste..

It is now a paper weight.

The Death Metal pedal is so over the top in it's distortion, I was warned before buying it...

[krajnovic10]

i think if u put a noise gate in front of it it would sound awsum, thats what i think anyway

[Erithlon]

i agree with the commenters below me. you really should mic your amp.

nice video btw! :)

[Zztop128]

Cool rif around 6:10!

[leandroschwarz]

And I have a heavest pedal...

Brutal Distortion By Landscape (made in brazil)

Sorry by mi english.

[leandroschwarz]

Hi. Please make a test into the Digitech DF-7, distortion farcory 7... It's a really awesome pedal...

[joeydahlia]

Nasty tones...yuk..

[pleasureONstrings]

terminalninja is right toneking, please mic the amps.

I love your videos, but your're THE toneking, you really must get better sound on your videos

Cheers

[anubis1335]

i think the metal muff is an awesome pedal. with Tone King's permission, i would like to link a video of me playing the metal muff.

[lmsjr]

absolutely. LInk it, I'll approve it!!

[anubis1335]

K...thanks...it isnt the greatest playing but that pedal owns IMO.

[SixStringSublime]

behringer UM100 :D

[terminalninja]

toneking please mic the amps :(

[ilovestinalots]

if you can get your hands on an HM2, thats the best metal pedal in my opinion. it was discontinued in the 80s tho

[GuitaristBoi9]

NOPE BOSS ML 2 is not the heaviest Metal pedal but MXR FULLBORE METAL IS

[ruffles272]

mxr fullbore sounds like shit though so that doesn't count

[thisIStheARTofRUIN]

the top boost lets it down a bit, i own one and never use the top boost, imo it sounds awful.

[nght5tlkr]

It looks like you finally got yourself the Orange Micro Crush \m/

As for the heaviest metal pedals, there are quite a few that sounded good (IMO--since everyone has their own opinion to what sounds "heavy") with some tweaking. If I had enough money, I'd buy and them all as they each can bring a different sound to the table.

[MojoPenguin]

The MXR Fullbore metal looks pretty nice for metalheads, even has a noise-gate built in. \m/

[remotecontrol1324]

Try the nano metal muff, I think is the best in metal muff family, cheap and true bypass ( the other are buffered )...

I would like to see a test between the digitech tl.2, the classic metal zone, the metal muff ,Boss ML-2 Metal Core, MXR M116 and the danelectro metal ...

That teste would be insane!!!

[bluesman2050]

Throw in the Line 6 Uber Metal to the comparison

[thereddwarf2]

+1

Anyway the ML-2 Metal Core rocks too ;)

[DaveDoggOwns]

The Mega distortion by boss. Yeah, I agree that's a good pedal too. All the pedals now and days are so dense, trebly, and noisy sounding. In studio recording, there are a lot of overdubbed guitars. It's like all the newer pedals are trying to emulate a bunch of overdubbed guitars. It's impossible and it's ridiculous.

[dadudeguy2]

for the metal muff to sound good, you have to turn down your amp's treble and just adjust your amp's EQs overall. Otherwise it sounds just like this...if i wouldn't have fiddled with the controls i would have sold it

[LastXzIII]

hey, tone king! i wonder if you could do a demo of the bbe sonic maximizer for one day. it would be great if you could. thank you!^.^

[ProudUnicorn]

Nice Pedal, good demonstration as (nearly) allways!

Keep on ToneKing!

I like the 30 Pedals/30 Days very much, really really cool!

You should put the Name of the pedal into the video title, so its easyier to find for everyone whos just searching a demo of this pedal.

[tak178]

Pretty sick pedal, TTK.

[WhitePenguiN12345]

Do the Zvex Box of Rock! :D

[Zhorellski]

Boss MT-2 Keeley mod and Damage Control's Demonizer sounds more brutal than this pedal..

[bcdon1]

Zhoreliski: Post a video response with the MT-2 then, it would be great to hear the difference.

[Zhorellski]

@bcdon1 There's a video here in Youtube Keeley mode mt-2..

[hungrysparrow]

Line6 über metal is pretty brutal and it has a built in noise gate too.

[drakeyxkaos]

So TK, I have a question that doesn't pertain to this video...

Do you own a shop or something? Because to personally own all of that gear is insane!

[cob4lyf04]

i hated that pedal it sucks your guitars tone and sounds very thin

[JoePerry4Life1]

I agree it sound sterrible to me, preamp gain > pedals

[Den1sVengeance]

totally right man...... AND I STILL HOLD ON MY SUGGESTION ABOUT DOING THE Ibanez TUBESCREAMER TS9 REVIEW ( as I said yesterday)

[Shadowrunner340]

Lovepedal Provalve, it's pretty high-gain.

[guitardbucket]

Good video, but not my favorite distortion.

[loveguitars]

Thanks!!!!!!