TELECOMMUNICATIONS WIRING TELEPHONE NIGHTMARES

[jesus89vald]

Haha thats how my class looks like

[TheKarlsruheprotest]

I guess for this system, when it works, it works, don't touch the cables after that.

[evolution7gsr]

This is what we called, the evolution of Telco Riser.. looks scary though!

[getalife67]

AAAAHHH! GET ME OUT OF HERE LOL

[rysliv]

lol where does this wire go?

[AeKDzTeCh]

lol.it's really mission impossible to get the wire which you looking for

[xRuFFZx]

omfg thats an nasty and amature arangement

[chemmerling]

I like the random punchdown block across the room. Lol. who had that many phones to expand like that???

[wreckdiver001]

To LTGOneill, I work primarily in overseas construction of large scale projects. I make extensive use of satellite circuits that integrate with the PBX. I am able to provide many services for my clients that cannot be done over VOIP. I do use VOIP some in the internal office environment.

[isaacu]

Yup, not the worst I have seen either, but It looks like your just starting a new board across the room. That is the way to do it.

[Marqlon50x]

I'm glad telecommunications is moving to computer systems and avoiding the 66 blocks.

[wreckdiver001]

Amen on the copper telephone circuit. It is far better than Voip. Voip is not quite ready for prime time. Doing a good job on your wiring will save acres of headaches later.

[LTGOneill]

@wreckdiver001 I'm not sure what world you live in but I've run VoIP using SIP for YEARS in production environments, for both sales and support call centers, as well as corporations, home business and my own personal service. whatever work you've seen that leads you to believe it isn't ready for prime time nowadays means you're looking at an idiot's idea of service; get a pro to do it instead.

[Ebbonified]

Give one meth addict an hour and he'll have it all cleared out for ya.

[douro20]

I've had to work with punchdown blocks...but not anything this complex. It can be a mess even if done properly.

[myjobsucksass]

Yeah the wiring was done poorly but there are a lot of other devices that are in the way plus running the jumpers to an adjacent wall is a pain and never really looks nice. I see this all the time working for "the worlds largest telecommunications company"

[iwanaGoFast2010]

i see alot of comments about this voip and you wouldnt need this? bullshit you morons. they still have to be distributed!!! and guess what, you STILL need all this wiring, unless of course you only using one phone , then the phone can can do it. so anyone who says that obviously has no telecommunications experince.

[phattieg]

@iwanaGoFast2010 VoIP still needs to be terminated in some fashion. However, it's usually much neater because it's all CAT5 switch racks with everything in one neat spot that isn't as prone to wire cuts and improper pair splicing. Just saying. If your network is built right, you can get reliable service using a dedicated T circuit as your termination point. I have also seen, and used, medium volume traffic (40 callers) over compressed GSM. Not POTS, but decent for residential HSI 786k up.

[iwanaGoFast2010]

all looks really in order except for the terminal, geezus h christ, love how they tagged it for you though

[ChiefLeftenant]

is this and old pots phone system?

these are going away fast for IP phones/Skype/Etc.

[g3rrar1]

what exactly is all this wiring? i appreciate an answer :)

[iwanaGoFast2010]

@g3rrar1 most of the 25pair blocks you see are cross connects to phone jacks in the building, starting at the telephone companies terminal, then to a demarcation point, rj21x or rj11's as i seen here, then from there to the phone system if its going though a phone system, then from the phone system to the 66 blocks where most of the time the are labeled to each phone jack accordingly, but not always. its just a giant cross connect room. when you get to giant balls of wire and connectors its fun!

[grejanegremon]

spooky spaghetti, and noddles job....:)

[cableguru161]

i think Im gonna be a little late to the next job....

[c0d3x5]

did someone send in the fng to wire up all the 66 and rj21x blocks ?

[silentsky319]

I've seen worst in newer buildings

[readyformagic]

Is this Verizon central station?

Just kidding!

[ManOfMeans]

A couple of wire snips here and there and you're employed for life!  Guaranteed work LOL

[stavroschk]

image now that you need to change 1 wire hahahaha

[alighouston]

@stavroschk its not that bad it just looks scary unless you have rats or other wire critters they will last you 20-50 years depending how its done and then just take a week off and let them rewire the whole thing think its worth it after 20 years :)

[Tomek1958100]

muzyka ładna ale nic po za tym .To przykład jak nie powinno się krosować (obciach i burdel)

[jrguitar57]

that switchroom looks VERY familiar! Where is this?

[617gnivek]

make sure you have a couple 9 volt battries

[marconistead]

been there, done that! good music! lol 

[maximumvideodrome]

seen far worse - at least things have some order here

[Canadiack]

That is the biggest fucking mess i've ever seen

[Skash2006]

disconnect #44-#62, see who comes running, if nobody, disconnect 73, 98, 103, 133, 152 and then in increments of 13 until someone comes down, you should have customer support with you sooner than the hold tie stated.

[phoenix12349]

That better be a telecommunication office at the teleco. I can't imagine anything close to that amount of equipment in use by a business.

[VeryUb3r]

This must be what charter communications room looks like. My net drops every 15 minutes. 20 techs been out so far and cant figure out what the fuck is wrong with it. The answer lies in your equipment you sophisticated dumbfucks.

[wildwoodtop]

what type of telephone wire to use on new construction of a home? Category 3 or 5?

[disgruntledgoat]

@wildwoodtop If it's just phone, go cat 3 as it's cheap. If it's going to be used for data, may as well use cat 6 as it'll be cheaper to spend now than do a decent job later...

[N4tti1ntampa]

@wildwoodtop I would use 5

[iwanaGoFast2010]

@wildwoodtop homerun cat 5 to closet

[sndd0138]

gotta love Bell.

[Meowmiks]

Thats when you sit down with them and say:

*smile*... "I think we should explore an Asterisk solution."

[lonestar78550]

this is perfect for self employed techs that charge by the hour lol

[v1fly1]

Where is the paint on the back brd ????????????

[v1fly1]

Yea and no paint on your back brd..

[v1fly1]

Thats Verizon for ya!!!

PS : I see the demarc Ive cleaned enough yo know..

[hellb0y2010astig]

sphagetti..

[cochise7969]

WOW lots of wire!

[urbtactics]

depends on what exactly needs to be done....lol

[therealandycook]

"snip"

[6331255]

Thats not to bad!! you should see some of the systems I have to work on! I have stops where the M66 block where just hanging not screwed to any back board and held together with duck tape!!!.

[bewarethedecks]

I wouldn't touch any of the blocks or wires. No telling what might stop working!

But on a serious note, it would take quite a bit of time, effort and money to get that installation cleaned up.

[iwanaGoFast2010]

@bewarethedecks clean up what?? its perfect really. ill make a video of a one that needs to be done, and you be the judge

[bewarethedecks]

@iwanaGoFast2010

Starting @ 12 seconds, the install looks horrendous.

While optional, properly selected colored backboards, D rings and some planning would turn it into a logical & neat installation.

Is this the worst install out there? No. But it could look a lot better.

[bashomow]

@iwanaGoFast2010 can you link the vid you made? i wanna see

[glowstringer420]

Holly crap dude. that is such a freaking mess. lol.

[rubenamaro75]

LOL no shit ...great video!

[tfcguy32]

get your toner out.

[ryanti1989]

thats exactly how its supposed to be done

[MrG0ingcrazy]

Looks like job security

[hypershrimp]

reminds me of Toronto wiring. lol.

[sehpatr]

There must bee lots of cross talks :D

[alphaman1101]

quick solution? get a flame thwower and have fun. then learn cable management

[whitelitning75]

gotta love it, where i work we provide VoIP, so we have to share premise equipment with them. now that can be a reall pain in the ass

[bigcheetah]

That is common place in older buildings. The sloppy work just builds upon itself and this is what you get. I have personally seen much, much worse!

[grapeHateraid]

@bigcheetah its true, over time changes are made and everyonce in a while the customer makes the mistake of hiring a limp dick and they fuck it up, over time the organization goes away

[drunknmastr916]

yeah that room looks very familiar lol

[bcsod]

Wow that looks like a building in Charleston,Wv. I might have had a hand in it.

[rdekema]

Yes, I am quite familiar with how this all works. My point is that the wiring needs to be managed, routed, punched down, etc, in the MDF, IDFs, wiring closets, etc., in either scenario. The only difference is that the wiring and the work is distributed in your scenario and centralized in the closet shown in the video. You, on the other hand, seem to be focusing mainly on ad hominem attacks and insults. Given this, I will not be continuing this conversation.

[dellthinker]

This is why VoIP must be put in play especially for larger networks.

[rdekema]

I don't see how that would necessarily help. The wires have to be terminated somewhere whether they're voice or Ethernet. Really, the main thing I see wrong with this room is that they should have kept the station cables in their bundles until closer to the punchdown blocks. Also, whatever the green panel at 0:31 is (lightning protector for outside runs maybe?) could use to be tidied up with some wire ties or similar.

[dellthinker]

Um, you dont see how a 60 port router compared to thousands of phone lines differ?

You obviously dont know how VoIP works. I once worked for a company that had VoIP for almost everything they used. The physical land lines were just backups in case the network went down. They had over 2,500 employees and prolly 7000 phone numbers(extensions). I used to run the Asterisk servers, well more like help, Cause something fucked up every once in a while. Learn before you speak on something.

[rdekema]

Even if the core router(s) only have 60 ports, each station needs to be terminated somewhere. With good cable management practice, there's not a huge difference in effort between distributed and centralized wiring.

[dellthinker]

Ok so picture 10 desktops all connected to a switch, then another set of 10 desktops are connected to another switch and both switches are connected to a 60 port router, and each port on that Cisco Catalyst 4000 series has switches -> workstations/VoIP phones connected to it. This is just simple Net+ structure. Are you like 12?

[iwanaGoFast2010]

@dellthinker voip still needs to be distributed dumbass

[windoes98se]

o, god, if one thing went wrong it would be like imposable to find a solution

[skyweezynU]

this must be a huge building, i worked o avaya IP phones at owrk

[iHateToRegister]

holy shit ...

[matar8022]

Looks like "some" work

by the way, i think the music fits verry well

[telecomgear]

Piece of cake. With a toner and a probe, I'll find anything.

[borglanparty]

I'd rip it out and replace it with IP Phones, then sue for pain and suffering.

[mansharker8]

yes sireee... that closet is a FUCKING nightmare.

[mansharker8]

they must be having alot of cross talk issues with all those 66 blocks and hundreds of pairs.

[sndd0138]

IP phones suck. 

[capitaltelephone]

@borglanparty

one thing i dont like about IP phones is they get choppy and you have to register them with cisco and they are not that reliable. i'd recomend a mitel or a panasonic or a NEC system. nothing can ever beat a solid copper connection on a real phone line on a real phone through a real phone system

[sndd0138]

haha! what a mess! sadly, i've seen worse!

[mansharker8]

hmmm...

Is this all for a PBX? i mean, there are a hell of alot of twisted pairs in that room.

At least it has 66 blocks, but whoever has to figure out which wire goes where to fix problems and etc, is gonna have a hell of a hard time.

That closet is a rats nest of wires.

[iHateToRegister]

They simply attach another cable, if something is broken

[James1toknow]

In a perfect world I like to see the MDF closet set up. From left to right, LEC POE D-mark, then C-lec RJ21xs, smart jack area, house cable for IDFs then station cables, then system cables, finally the system.

[James1toknow]

I like the new 110 application is that a extended D-mark? I see no Desi strips to identify the 300 pair blocks?? oops its just copper right ?? hahaha labels guys labels.

[James1toknow]

89/B's/66 blocks are cheaper than 110. And 66 blocks are used for system connectivity ie, stations and trunks. What the person has shown us here is how not to wire a closet. But because every guy with a punch tool and Butt set comes in and does what ever they want. I always got the escalation calls. Large business system specialist. Thank you, Thank you no applause please 21 plus years.

[mansharker8]

ummmmmm WTF? all those 66 blocks are doing what exactly? i mean come on, 66 blocks are usefull only for DSL and POTS and thats about it.

whoever wired that building wasnt N+ certified, thats for sure.

[James1toknow]

I'v seen telecom closets all over and one things true, never proper planning for future growth and standardization. You know your good when you can still figure out what they have through the mess. !!!!! LOL Smart Jacks in the middle of everything then the customer says there is static on my line one You Find the alarm company used line one! for= (the alarm system)!!! Hey use the fax line O.K. this will cause less interruption to the customer or better yet get a POTS line for it.

[rc300xs]

Ughh. The 110 blocks are bad enough let alone those R66. I see a T1 stuffed in amoungst all the mess.

I'd love to spend a day and clean all that up!

One thing....BIX Blocks and D-Frames

[beaman220]

THAT IS HOT! Look at all of those F*cked bup cross connects!

[WwwFunPicsWs]

almost the same like in my room.. :D

[DigitalMind66]

Hahahahahahahaha ... coolest video on youtube .. :) (Maybe I'm bias since we obviously share the same kind of work) I think I will start working on something similar with all the risers and telecom rooms I frequent in the Montreal area... Thanks ! (Gotta hate those 66 blocks!)

[ebiekem]

wow!!that's terrible..

[hypershrimp]

compared to some of the buildings in Toronto, this is very decent! nice way to end it off lol