Skybus Metro Hyderabad

[maheloveshoney]

nice invention

[vamsimetla]

i was there for the launch at marmagoa, goa,

a person died accedenttally and the project was stopped,

i donno complete details , but it was 5yrs ago, havent heard frm anyone that its a sucess,

so is it running in goa atleast ? so that i can dream it will come to hyd one day?

[Sasukekillsitachi]

Hope this become reality - this will also help tourism became nobody wants congested polluted cities!

[Sasukekillsitachi]

Slap at our corrupt government face!

Indians are geniuses, we even invented the numbers, but only our corrupt leaders and government holding us back.

[karthikthomask]

indians are ingenous, but fuck the government

[rajarambojji]

Even Prime Mister Atal Behari Vajpayee, after seeing the sytem, declared in Goa that it should be taken up. Prime Minster of Malaysia offered to fund also entirely from Malaysia!!! Then why the technology is getting killed at the word of one man in India will be a matter of history's judgement of character of our administration and deficit of governance.

[rajarambojji]

Like Padma awards, some times, it is a moot point whether one should get one and say how was it given and do not get one, and why it is not given , situation. All unpaid wise men of high integrity like Dr Abdul Kalam, Prof Rama Rao, Dr kakodakar, senior Commissioner of Railway Safety apart from TUV Rheinland Germnay saw it as perfectly safe and feasible. Actual test results verified by RSSo/Ministry of Railways, BARC Mumbai show it to be safer than metros.

[sreeks13]

the project started way back in 2005 , i really dont see this becoming a reality..

its so frustrating ... considering the awesome idea!!!

[same270]

even if there is no investment ot andhra gov still there will be loss of money from gov treasure and i have doubt that this will be a flop doubt.

[tankbund]

Potentially this could be a good soluton to our congested cities. The top portion could be used as walkways for citzens to walk in a safe environment without traffic. Roads in Indian cities have become completely pedestrian unfirendly. If this mode of transportation is working in Germany and is low cost, why should we go for the expensive metro alternative. Any comments.

[dougules]

This has already worked in Germany for over a century. Look up the Schwebebahn in Wuppertal.

[Tholkaapi]

Guys, Instead of fighting my city is good...urs is bad as we usually do, let us promote this Idea and make it popular. I do not want this just in Hyderbad...it shud reach all cities in India. Great work by this guy...

[boyzffuture]

im proud that its an Indian technology and Hyderbadies are doing a great job!!!!

[boyzffuture]

Delhi should also have Skybus.....

[rohithdaka]

Now that Hyderbad Metro project was cancelled and new bids are being called for why dont you bid for this now? Given that there will be proper mayor and hopefully accountable administration, we might get a test track somewhere in hyderabad. What is the status anyway?

[rajarambojji]

Test track constructed in 2004 and tested in Goa. We don't need test track now.

[boyzffuture]

@rajarambojji is Skybus technology invented in india???

[rajarambojji]

Yes India's invention granted patents in USA too!

[xferspace]

@rajarambojji Sir, Are there any new devlopements. Do you have atleast one place where it will be deployed?

[rajarambojji]

No idea! Frankly it is Government of India's property as donated by me,and I am no more in the system to know.

[rajarambojji]

.Well there rests the story. The same conventional metro rail is the current approved option for Hyderabad, they will fix some agency, by giving higher subsidy from the government.

[rohithdaka]

Its not just the government we should approach. If you go public with the help of NGOs working for betterment of hyderabad, we can pull the government to have a public debate about their choice. I saw only internet publicity for this concept. that too nothing after goa accident.

Visionless political leaders can never accept such new ideas unless we have public debates about them in media. Please dont expect them to accept just because we have letters from experts. :)

[rajarambojji]

In spite of offer of grant of Rs 2000 cr from Malaysia, to construct first full scale commercial Skbus metro, to promote Asian technology, in Hyderabad , because it is the inventor's home place, the State and Center did not allow. It happens to be the Prime Minister of Malaysia, who wrote that letter to our respected Prime Minister, in 2005-2006

[sidoghosh]

@rajarambojji Great work Mr. Rajaram ..u just revolutionised the way of travelling . I have question will the skybus be restricted for the people of hyderabad or there is a chance of other states enjoying this facility?.

[odh202]

What's the point of suspending the car below the track instead of having a standard elevated rail line? I don't see the advantage.

[rajarambojji]

Wish you went through the complete presentation- and listened carefully-people die in coaches of railway when they capsize in case of derailment. In Skybus, it is the same railway where the coach cannot capsize nor can escape the rail guidance. WHile high speeds are the same as in railway , since we are able protect lives against risk of derailment and capsizing , we can make the coaches light weight and more payload carried!! You save energy and have improved safety than the conventional one.

[odh202]

Skybus claims that it costs less than a regular rail line to build, emits zero pollutants, can be built in 24 months, would be cheap to ride, is safer than a regular rail line, would be able to carry more passengers than a standard rail line, and would require zero funding from the government. I'm not an engineer, but if all this is true, why isn't it being built?

[rajarambojji]

Lobbies of international industrial houses exporting metros are strong and influence our rulers. We are not yet courageous to be leaders on technology front.

[rajarambojji]

You may visit the website mentioned at the home page of atrilab for more details

[sunkumvar]

Is it not possible to have skybus along with metro rail together as skybus goes under and the metro rail goes above..Please think about this.. Sreedharan + rajaram (skybus) will be more suitable for indian population.

This can give more frequency and options to travel.

[coniljos]

@sunkumvar, It's a good suggestion. The problem with any public transport system is that it may not always be flexible to meet individual needs.That's the main reason for preferance for cars.The top of the skytrack can be used to run minivan sized on-demand shared transit cabs which are dual-mode capable to run on rails & road which can provide point to point transit without change in mode in addition to dop off & pick up from skystations.Integrate this with foot bridges across the road.

[sprau09]

Among the best public transportation in the world. I like it very much..

[coniljos]

Sky wheels solves the problem of derailment by inverting the rail, but since the load is suspended, there is always the tendency to oscillate. This seems to be the cause of the ill-fated accident during the trial run. Though there are oscillation arrestors at the top,providing a guide wheel at the bottom, running on a guide rail supported on cantilevered props from the column would be the most effective safeguard. This addition can make skybus the safest rail system ever devised.

[rajarambojji]

One can have double decker Skybus too- a design has been proposed for special cases.

[indiahas2develop]

bt if it is so efficient, comfortable and cheap, maybe the Union Govt can help to put this project in reality...and Mr. rajarambojji.....thanx for making the anti collision device and skybus.......bt if u dont mind......my suggestion to improve it is that can v hav double decker skybuses??...like one that runs upside down (already present) and one which runs above that, both connected to each other...so a larger crowd can be handled by the same skybus..wat do u think??..can it be successful??

[marcabane]

someone nuke kerala please.

[rajarambojji]

Do hope so.

[HindiReader]

how come this isn't being implemented?

Maybe you should create a test track in a real city.

[rajarambojji]

A test track exists in Goa and tested and and certified results also obtained by me. But the Government owns the intellectual property as donated by me.. and is a poor business manager. It requires blessings of a political boss.

[HindiReader]

im sure if you talk with narendra modi the cheif minister of gujurat you will get his blessing

[rajarambojji]

No pessimism in life! Innovation always suffers from persecution and disinformation. Post accident of an experimental system, the certified system proved itself and still exists though neglected.. The strength of idea will carry it forward , and one wise and courageous honest leader in political circle has to take the step to adopt. I believe it will happen.

[nayeempatel]

v will se after yakoob´s death lol

[samrudha2007]

I mean the Goa accident.

[samrudha2007]

Well after the Goa the fate of Sky Bus was sealed ... we never heard of sky bus after that... we wished it became true...

We wished that we could travel at a speed inexcess of 250kmphs on Indian railways.

[llkkjjhh333]

WTF...!  NEVER HEARED OF IT

[rajarambojji]

may be never he he he

[yaqoob43]

when we will see this air bus in hyderabad,

i think 10-20 years ha ha ha

[furiouspride]

Rajaram sir,

Have you received any response from our Hon Prime Minister or Mrs. Sonia Gandhi in this regard? Is Skybus coming to Hyd finally?

[rajarambojji]

. There you are; figures speak for themselves.

[rajarambojji]

The actual cost of construction of even the experimental Skybus was only Rs 37 cr per km of double route including the rolling stock in 2004, whereas the metro rail being imported costed Rs 120Cr for elevated rail, as spent by DMRC. The Figure Rs 37cr is as per verified records by the Comptroller Auditor General of India. The certified system of Skybus, post accident of an uncertified experimental run, delivered much better superior riding results as measured by the RDSO and BARC independently

[rajarambojji]

Free from risk of derailments, and hence dead weights of coaches reduce by 30%. All indigenous designs and technology & hence based in India ; again costs drop. The specifications are not made to favour a select few international players and hence the Indian manufacturers can compete on material choices satisfying the same international norms.

[rriturajg]

sir how is it cheaper?

[rahul10101]

lol

1st of all we have to takecare our current buses I traveled in local buses they smiley dirty shit !!!!!!!!

rahul from hyd

[rajarambojji]

Well the scenes are terrible with young men just hanging out with a toe hold on the foot board. It is dangerous. Same is the ride in suburban trains in Mumbai. In Mumbai annually 5000+ lives are lost on suburban rail system. We have solutions within our affordability and better ones like Skybus metro rail, superior to what Delhi has got at 4 times the cost. But our leaders want only the most expensive inferior solution willingly sacrificing lives of others, waiting for huge funds!

[rajarambojji]

You are welcome! But I split my time between US and India - will go back to US in 3 months.!! Take care and do well in your studies and make your parents proud!See how our engineers and planners destroyed value in society!

DETROIT (Reuters) - General Motors Corp shares plunged to their lowest level since 1950 on Thursday as concerns mounted that an industry decline that started in the United States was spreading and a leading forecaster warned global auto demand could "collapse" in 2009.

[heinabak]

I am a native of hyderabad.. I would definelty like to meet you personally next time I am in hyderabad. I want to discuss with you some aspects of my research project and more about skybus metro and how one can influence the implementation of innovative technologies related to infrastructure growth

[rajarambojji]

Good luck with PRT. May be you should know I am a member of the People Mover group as well as PRT group Enjoy yourself! Check on google search for Rajaram Bojji You will get my ASCE publication too--- Life is beautiful and engineers do mess up.. can tell you being an engineer myself! Check the sites I have given for educative value, not to make you agree with me. All the best in your engineering career. Purdue is a great University . WOnder if Dr Sinha is still there.

[heinabak]

Anyways, I think skybus is better than a metro in terms of cost but it is as good as a bus rapid transit that is to be implemented in gujrat. I am a mechanical engineering student from the purdue university and am working on the control aspects of a PRT, I am trying to introduce the concept of PRT in india and some university campuses in the US. good luck with your endeavour with skybus and hope it will replace the already sanctioned metro projects in india.

[heinabak]

Can you tell me how is the skybus superior to a bus rapid transit and another concern is that with the introduction of the tata nano i see more and more people buying cars and people in no way will prefer to use public transit unless they provide the comforts of a private automobile like on-demand transport and door-door private transport. A PRT system is just designed to do that, prt is being planned to be implemented in seattle and texas and other 5 cities in switzerland.

[rajarambojji]

you have to go atrilab site and look for the pages on Skybus as well as visit pages skybus.metro.goolepages and sky.blogspot.

PRT is not cost beneficial. nano cars will further congest and hasten the death of auto in city. There is no pleasure to travel at 5mph even if you sit in Merc, leave alone Nano!

[rajarambojji]

Washington DC cannot actually run cars! It is congested. It is a pain in the neck to take one and park. New York city cannot handle cars. Either you walk or take the tube which also is congested. It is not a matter of affording- the urban roads get congested and cannot handle-simple cannot! London fines cars now.With gas prices USA is moving less with cars! Auto companies have gone into red already on the wall street. Things are changing and either we change or face another bailout of economy!

[heinabak]

kindly provide some technical data to back up your claim of transporting tens of thousands of people. Have you done any numerical simulations to prove so. The actual load factor is always less for GRT, an alternative to skybus can be bus rapid transit which is cheaper and more proven.

[heinabak]

A mass transit like a metro or skybus will fail to attract car users, such a system will probably shift the burden of public transit from a bus to a rail but will not serve the private automobile users.

[heinabak]

people in india use public transit out of compulsion. until not the middle class of india could not afford a personal car unlike the US where all classes of people have cars, that is the fundamental reason why public transport is not such a big hit here. Road traffic problems cannot be alleviated unless private automobile users are attracted to it.

[furiouspride]

Public transportation is making it's way now in the US. I live in Austin and we are scheduled to see the new Metro system next month (excited). Cars are used because there is immense land available to lay highways. However, congestion is brimming even in medium-sized cities today. We have 8-lane highways in Austin, still we get to wait a good hour everyday on commute. The need of the hour is good public transportation that is not only affordable but convenient and green.

[rajarambojji]

Numbers and speed matter for us here. Skybus is the same mass transit metro rail, but made flexible to follow road, not occupying the road space except for the pillars. Carries tens of thousands per hour per direction and costs less than a quarter of existing western systems!You need to watch National Geographic coverage to get an idea- try locate megacities and look out for Mumbai- Skybus is well covered there.

[heinabak]

A PRT system provide private on-demand transit non-stop from point to point. The on-demand and private nature of the travel will attract automobile users to adopt public transit. This in conjunction with government regulations such as hiking road taxes and unfavorable parking regulations to discourage private automobile use is needed to reduce. traffic congestion that we face toady. Search for "Skyweb Video" and "Microsoft campus prt" on youtube to get more information on PRT.

[rajarambojji]

All oriental cities have heavy populations and very poor roads. A simple narrow two lane road is all you get in the city- and the average speed of road vehicles in the city is less than 5mph!!!

[heinabak]

I think India needs to try out a pilot PRT system rather than another GRT system like the above mentioned skybus. I still do not

[rajarambojji]

India needs mass transit! Railways in India make profits and MIT and Harvard are learning how railways have so much business in India! In USA AMTRAK is subsidised and limping sickly. Ground realities are different. India does handle huge numbers--automobiles are no competition for passenger traffic! PRT are too useless and not relevant in a case where we move 6 million a day only in one city!

[rajarambojji]

Ha Ha at least you say it is a mass transit system. It is a regular train running upside down- that is all! Follows existing roads and being mass transit system with point to point service will give a stiff competition to automobiles on the roads! Well it is a matter of judgment, whether it is innovation or not, but government had to make a separate law to govern this system! I am glad it is normal existing thing for you and not a big deal! I would like others also to think like you and try out

[heinabak]

how is it different from a regular train....it is still a mass transit system which will face stiff competition from private automobiles...it does not seem to be very innovative

[NTVodu]

Prototype shows 2 cars accommodating about 80people (??)How scalable is this system for, say, Hyderabad, where atleast 100,000 people travel just the patacheru-Koti section on a given morning ? How many of these cars would you need to move a traffic of that magnitude ? How do you plan to accommodate possible jams that can happen where one leading "cars" has a problem and all the following cars would be parked one behind the other (in conventional road systems, buses can overtake and bypass).

[scientisti]

If government babus award such contracts to their near and dear....they won't make enough moolah....old, expensive metro/tram contracts rake in bunch of bucks for their kith and kin. This amazing thought process/mechanism...etc is bound to end up restricted to patent and paper.

[angeleyes1511]

well i hope this solves the traffic problem.....traffic is terrible in hyd....

[rajarambojji]

Anyway it has not been adopted in Hyderabad, even though full funding not loan, was offered by Hon'ble Prime Minister of Malaysia, in honour of the inventor living in Hyderabad! Government wants to spend their own funds and put up conventional metro rail of old technology, at double the cost!!! Like God's ways, government's also are mysterious! Hope one day the expensive old style metro rail takes off and solves our traffic problem.

[YTvb]

I hope patents have been filled....due credit shld go to the gentleman whoose genius has been put into practice...and hope the cities implement this soon..

[rajarambojji]

Reference US Patent 6,688,235 Inventor Rajaram, Bojji may be referred which describes the system as Suspended Coach transportation system. The US patent office web site if you search you will get this.

[prabhatpalpal]

@YTvb the gentleman is the owner of this channel and Ex - MD of Konkan Railways, India.

[johnnyvirani]

tht is awsome

[ZISHANASAD]

a very good system indeed must be implemented in all busy routes of metro cities in india....

[sidarth]

I bet its gonna fall down on the day 1 of operation........

[rajarambojji]

You lose the bet! It is working for last three years after certification issued by the undersigned in Goa, successfully on the experimental track!

[nithinkj]

I have been looking into skybus for last couple of days.I would like to know what is the status now? What happened to the contract with malaysian company? I heard Konkan Railway is seeking for global partners now.

Is there any chance of implementing skybus in the near future(since E.Sreedharan is playing well not to implement it). Hyderabad and Kochi has gone for metro now right? Did you get more funds for further testing in Goa?

It is sad that in India we not giving much importance for R&D

[rajarambojji]

Well the conventional metros like DMRC planned for other cities are not really taking off. The financial closure has not been achieved by Reliance group for Mumbai case even after 3 years of inauguration by the PM. Now the PPP model is abandoned. Finally Skybus will win!Our people will learn the hard way, you cannot always have party at the expense of people of Japan!Economic realities are formidable and choking cities will finally force the administrators to see the honest solution of Skybus

[nithinkj]

Now planning commission is against the metro for Kochi.Commission asked the Govt to inspect various other solution for the traffic congestion.Hope skybus may be considered once again

[rbflowin]

hi wassup! any news about hyd metro project?

[rajarambojji]

Political class has to act.. in democracy people have a say but in India they just quietly and stoically suffer! It is nice to take to profession of politics in India! There seems to be no serious pressure on the rulers by the intelligentia amongst people who are ruled!

[killokone]

fuck the should make this in india!

[rajarambojji]

This makes much less sound than the elevated metro rails of Hongkong, because the air-borne noise is trapped inside the concrete box holding the rail-wheel system! Being at a height of 10m above the road level, the sound levels will be much less than the surface metros like Mumbai or Delhi metros make! Actually it is much more eco-friendly than any other prevailing running systems!

[manumanish]

mmmmm i think such transportation can really prove to b the best option for development countries like india.......and is a true world class system too..