well, elements like carbon and lower have a low atomic number, meaning a low amount of protons, which again results in an equal number of electrons on the shell of the atom.
EDX is done by ionizing atoms, knocking out inner electrons, and then measuring the "jumps" as a higher electron fills a lower electron shell, in which the characteristic x-rays are emitted. lack of electrons, jumps arent as wide = no x-rays but merely light photons get emitted and cannot be detected.
it'd induce currents and fry the electronics, possibly also leading to a fire in a very short time. no idea if you could also make the geiger-mueller-tube explode, but yeah, i'm not gonna try this, as it's too expensive and i have no save place outside to do it.
AWESOME! THUMBS UP! I've always loved to learn on my own. School was a waste. The schools I went to were lame and full of thugs and idiots. I was treated poorly, and I wasn't challenged AT ALL! Anyways, I LOVE your videos! They're educational, and EXTREMELY well done! Plutonium-244 (T½ = 80 million years) can be found in VERY trace amounts in the Uranium ores. It's actually the heaviest primordial element. Have you ever come across Plutonium and daughter isotopes/elements in the Uranium ore?
well, there *are* a few Pu-atoms in U-ore (and thus, their daughters as well), but i dont have any means of actually "coming across" them, i.e. being able to measure them (e.g. decay energies; and the EDX works only when 0,2%+ of the material are the element in question, which doesnt seem to be the case in the ore). but yeah, uranium sometimes undergoes spontaneous fission, and that releases neutrons... and if they hit an U-238 nucleus, Pu-239 is created after two beta decays. :)
Just a note about Auger e-s. I, much like you, am largely self-taught with regard to science, and so I sometimes have my own "unique" ways of pronouncing weird stuff that I've only read about but never heard another person pronounce. I was talking to this scientist once about EDX and I pronounced it "aw-ger", like the drilling tool and he laughed at me (asshole, imo). I felt so stupid. It's actually French and pronounced oh-jjay or oh-shay. I don't mean to be condescending, just want to help!:)
thanks for the info! but yeah, i guess i dont really care if people laugh about me, lol. if i get a fact wrong, however, that'd be a whole different story. ;)
there are many french words i use all the time (e.g. "curie" or just pretty common english words that they all stole from the french, anyway), and i guess i pronounce them all wrong. heck, i was even told i pronounce many english words wrong. i guess that's what you get from just reading stuff and never talking to anybody. :P
This is the first time I ever heard about subshells. Now I understand why the peaks are broader at the bottom on the spectrum graph :-) Thanks for posting and explaining this! (I didn't know they used a silicon x-ray detector either :P)
yeah, you'll find a lot more info on this if you google for "electron subshells"!
well, that's as a general info for everybody, as i barely managed to stay within that annoying 15-minutes limit and couldnt explain or show as much as would've been necessary. grrr.
so yeah, everybody: google for "electron subshells" and for "characteristic x-ray" if you want to fill the "gaps" that this video might leave. and if you still have questions, dont hesitate to post a comment here! =)
Thanks for the info, bn. One thing's for sure, those silicon detectors have amazing energy resolution, probably better than any scintillator / photomultiplier setup could provide ;)
Did I hear you say that any element under carbon don't show? Is there an easy way to explain this? Thanks
ironnica 2 months ago
@ironnica
well, elements like carbon and lower have a low atomic number, meaning a low amount of protons, which again results in an equal number of electrons on the shell of the atom.
EDX is done by ionizing atoms, knocking out inner electrons, and then measuring the "jumps" as a higher electron fills a lower electron shell, in which the characteristic x-rays are emitted. lack of electrons, jumps arent as wide = no x-rays but merely light photons get emitted and cannot be detected.
bionerd23 1 month ago
@bionerd23 Thank you!
ironnica 1 month ago
By the way, thank you also for the video
ironnica 2 months ago
Weird. n 4 years, I had never come across the K, L, M, N terminology. Just always referred to them as 1,2,3,4
ironnica 2 months ago
you should stick a geiger counter into a microwave i always wondered what it would do
demonslayer1000 1 year ago
@demonslayer1000
it'd induce currents and fry the electronics, possibly also leading to a fire in a very short time. no idea if you could also make the geiger-mueller-tube explode, but yeah, i'm not gonna try this, as it's too expensive and i have no save place outside to do it.
bionerd23 1 year ago
@demonslayer1000
hey, but there's a channel where they try to microwave things, i've seen it! try and suggest it to them!
bionerd23 1 year ago
I am sorry for asking but...Are you a boy or a girl? Really really sorry for asking such as stupid thing...But i really wanna know.
cassiavc 1 year ago
@cassiavc shes a girl
demonslayer1000 1 year ago
AWESOME! THUMBS UP! I've always loved to learn on my own. School was a waste. The schools I went to were lame and full of thugs and idiots. I was treated poorly, and I wasn't challenged AT ALL! Anyways, I LOVE your videos! They're educational, and EXTREMELY well done! Plutonium-244 (T½ = 80 million years) can be found in VERY trace amounts in the Uranium ores. It's actually the heaviest primordial element. Have you ever come across Plutonium and daughter isotopes/elements in the Uranium ore?
KarbineKyle 1 year ago
@KarbineKyle
well, there *are* a few Pu-atoms in U-ore (and thus, their daughters as well), but i dont have any means of actually "coming across" them, i.e. being able to measure them (e.g. decay energies; and the EDX works only when 0,2%+ of the material are the element in question, which doesnt seem to be the case in the ore). but yeah, uranium sometimes undergoes spontaneous fission, and that releases neutrons... and if they hit an U-238 nucleus, Pu-239 is created after two beta decays. :)
bionerd23 1 year ago
your voice turns me on
SilentNinjja 1 year ago
:) it would be awesome for you to be a nuclear physicist....i mean your excellent in it lol great work you did on all those vids keep it up...bye
thegameglider 1 year ago
Just a note about Auger e-s. I, much like you, am largely self-taught with regard to science, and so I sometimes have my own "unique" ways of pronouncing weird stuff that I've only read about but never heard another person pronounce. I was talking to this scientist once about EDX and I pronounced it "aw-ger", like the drilling tool and he laughed at me (asshole, imo). I felt so stupid. It's actually French and pronounced oh-jjay or oh-shay. I don't mean to be condescending, just want to help!:)
10mintwo 1 year ago
@10mintwo
thanks for the info! but yeah, i guess i dont really care if people laugh about me, lol. if i get a fact wrong, however, that'd be a whole different story. ;)
there are many french words i use all the time (e.g. "curie" or just pretty common english words that they all stole from the french, anyway), and i guess i pronounce them all wrong. heck, i was even told i pronounce many english words wrong. i guess that's what you get from just reading stuff and never talking to anybody. :P
bionerd23 1 year ago
Sweet, very nice presentation. I understand it now better than before!
AScannerClearly 1 year ago
Great explanation!
jeriellsworth 1 year ago
Cool, I have the same pen!
bayat 1 year ago
reminds me of the calvin cycle
bojangles465 1 year ago
This is the first time I ever heard about subshells. Now I understand why the peaks are broader at the bottom on the spectrum graph :-) Thanks for posting and explaining this! (I didn't know they used a silicon x-ray detector either :P)
amatomicX 1 year ago
@amatomicX
yeah, you'll find a lot more info on this if you google for "electron subshells"!
well, that's as a general info for everybody, as i barely managed to stay within that annoying 15-minutes limit and couldnt explain or show as much as would've been necessary. grrr.
so yeah, everybody: google for "electron subshells" and for "characteristic x-ray" if you want to fill the "gaps" that this video might leave. and if you still have questions, dont hesitate to post a comment here! =)
bionerd23 1 year ago
@bionerd23 Feel free to make a series of videos about a subject. :) I'd watch them with big interest.
Phacias 1 year ago
@amatomicX
oh yeah, another one... the detectors are called "silicon drift detectors" to be precise, just in case you wanna look that up. :P
bionerd23 1 year ago
Thanks for the info, bn. One thing's for sure, those silicon detectors have amazing energy resolution, probably better than any scintillator / photomultiplier setup could provide ;)
amatomicX 1 year ago