@gailloullou - did you notice that during Part 2 of the video, at about 4:09, Dr Owuor states that He/they "broke his shoulder"? doesnt scripture tell us that none of His bones were broken? I'd appreciate a comment on this, as I love Dr Owuor and this statement of his is a stumbling block to my believing him.
@upnylou maybe he means something like a dislocated shoulder ... maybe because of the language difference (being english is not his first language) he didnt convey what he ment very well. cause i was wondering the same thing. hope that helped you out. God Bless!
@kgc1000 Yes I agree language is a question both now and during our translations. Perhaps a disconected joint is what he is conveying. If we review Billy Grahman, Benny Hinn, Reinhardt Bonkey etc. we will likely find saw unintenstinal misteps. Is this evidence to reject him part and parcel? I say no, but be persuaded of your faith by the Spirit of God.
@upnylou Look at yourself deep inside your soul and see if you are really looking for anything large or small to find to reject this man because his appearance does not line up with your worldview of Christian leadership. To put it bluntly I perceive in you the error of predjudice. Notice the Dr. never used the word broken bone. When the stench of dead mens bones(racism is in your nose.) Follow any great prophet and they will at times make mistakes as mere men. Look at his fruit.
@dlognir "Follow any great prophet and they will at times make mistakes as mere men". I understand this .. and I'm not looking for anything - large or small - to reject Dr Owuor. But the Doctor *most certainly* said they broke His bones. It's just a simple question I'm asking, and a simple answer I'm looking for. You've obviously not listened to the video in question .. or you would have heard him say it CLEAR AS DAY.
@upnylou - Let's look at the word "break" . Citing the M. Webster's Online Dictionary: 1 a: to separate into parts with suddenness or violence, b: fracture, c: rupture,d: to cut into and turn over the surface of, e: to render inoperable. Out of the four variations of the verb "break" I think we can agree that only one of them, being item a - (a fractured bone) is the only 1 that does not fit. In 3 scenarios the Dr. can be justified in using this word. (cont.)
@upnylou - (cont.) IE, the shoulder was likely separated (see def. a above), skin was definately ruptured (def. c), the shoulder certainly would have been cut into and the underlying muscle and flesh turned over or wrenched. The only common use of the word hear is as in a broken bone (def b.) or fracture.
@upnylou - (cont.) The apostle Paul later writes in 1 Corinthians 11:23-24: "For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you: that the Lord Jesus on the same night in which He was betrayed took bread; and when He had given thanks, He BROKE it and said, 'Take, eat; this is [meaning "represents"] My body
which is BROKEN for you; do this in remembrance of Me.'"
For more light on this subject see: eternalgod org
praise THE LORD
thebayarea95122 11 months ago
Isaiah 53:2-5
Jesus!
DreamsJoel228 2 years ago
This is my church in Canada (Christ in Action) and I remember when Dr.Owuor came. I give all the praise to God!
gailloullou 2 years ago
@gailloullou That was so good!! It was a good wake up call!! Glory be to God!!
giny09 2 years ago
Amen!
Rotichjoe 2 years ago
@gailloullou - did you notice that during Part 2 of the video, at about 4:09, Dr Owuor states that He/they "broke his shoulder"? doesnt scripture tell us that none of His bones were broken? I'd appreciate a comment on this, as I love Dr Owuor and this statement of his is a stumbling block to my believing him.
upnylou 1 year ago
@upnylou maybe he means something like a dislocated shoulder ... maybe because of the language difference (being english is not his first language) he didnt convey what he ment very well. cause i was wondering the same thing. hope that helped you out. God Bless!
kgc1000 1 year ago
@kgc1000 Yes I agree language is a question both now and during our translations. Perhaps a disconected joint is what he is conveying. If we review Billy Grahman, Benny Hinn, Reinhardt Bonkey etc. we will likely find saw unintenstinal misteps. Is this evidence to reject him part and parcel? I say no, but be persuaded of your faith by the Spirit of God.
dlognir 1 year ago
@upnylou Look at yourself deep inside your soul and see if you are really looking for anything large or small to find to reject this man because his appearance does not line up with your worldview of Christian leadership. To put it bluntly I perceive in you the error of predjudice. Notice the Dr. never used the word broken bone. When the stench of dead mens bones(racism is in your nose.) Follow any great prophet and they will at times make mistakes as mere men. Look at his fruit.
dlognir 1 year ago
@dlognir "Follow any great prophet and they will at times make mistakes as mere men". I understand this .. and I'm not looking for anything - large or small - to reject Dr Owuor. But the Doctor *most certainly* said they broke His bones. It's just a simple question I'm asking, and a simple answer I'm looking for. You've obviously not listened to the video in question .. or you would have heard him say it CLEAR AS DAY.
upnylou 1 year ago
@upnylou - Let's look at the word "break" . Citing the M. Webster's Online Dictionary: 1 a: to separate into parts with suddenness or violence, b: fracture, c: rupture,d: to cut into and turn over the surface of, e: to render inoperable. Out of the four variations of the verb "break" I think we can agree that only one of them, being item a - (a fractured bone) is the only 1 that does not fit. In 3 scenarios the Dr. can be justified in using this word. (cont.)
dlognir 1 day ago
@upnylou - (cont.) IE, the shoulder was likely separated (see def. a above), skin was definately ruptured (def. c), the shoulder certainly would have been cut into and the underlying muscle and flesh turned over or wrenched. The only common use of the word hear is as in a broken bone (def b.) or fracture.
(cont.)
dlognir 1 day ago
@upnylou - (cont.) The apostle Paul later writes in 1 Corinthians 11:23-24: "For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you: that the Lord Jesus on the same night in which He was betrayed took bread; and when He had given thanks, He BROKE it and said, 'Take, eat; this is [meaning "represents"] My body
which is BROKEN for you; do this in remembrance of Me.'"
For more light on this subject see: eternalgod org
dlognir 1 day ago