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  • 3Rivers is awesome and love the traditional bows and equipment ya'll offer, but i think these animals should at least be respected (gotta show footage of the hunters eating their hearts! The traditional way! lolol jk ). Don't mind seeing some killshots, but to offer a critique; a lot of quick cuts of them with the rock music and the cliche bland marketing voice doesn't help lol... Surely there's a more creative and less aggressive way to do it... Keep up the great work at the website and shop!

  •  Proper arrow placement will only kill your chances of hosting a show.

  • Yet again another liberal agenda.

  • Great commercial. I see no reason it should have been banned. Made me want to get my recurve out and shoot something!

  • It is hard to have hunting without impact. The Outdoor Channel allows bow hunting shows on their network that shows impact footage. We need to stop trying to make everything warm and fuzzy. I hope we never see the day they sensor hunting shows to appease the masses. Soon you will see the archer shoot the arrow then the screen fades away and the next shot is everyone high fiving at the bunk house. Yeah, what a great hunt that was.

  • @bigmusic39: actually you CAN tune a longbow by adjusting the brace height and nocking point. But that's only half of it: the arrows need to match the bow too (just like with a compound) by being the right spine, length, and point weight. One other thing: arrows shot from traditional bows (i.e. non-center shot bows) go thru a phenomenon called the "Archers Paradox" which makes it look like the arrow is flying crooked. Just type in a search for archers paradox her on YouTube and you can find

  • even during the shows the outdoorchannel wount show the impact of any shot more then once some rule they came up with to keep all the vegetarian let all animals over populate and die off tree hugging fools! its sad that people who think that us hunters who feed our familys by what we kill and donate to the less fortunate think were in the wrong ! wish they would realy do the math we hunters help this land but get criticized for it! you dont like it then dont watch it!!!!!

  • The impact of the arrow,bolt or bullet is part of hunting, so why NOT show it during the commercials for the shows aired on the channel?

  • It's funny to me how we can't talk about Jesus it might scare someone or hunt ?????get real ppl grow up his life saved ours ! And it takes the life of somthing to give life for somthing els you can't live with out something diying to feed you be it plant or animal . May the Lord Jesus bless you keep up the good fight . Fight for your brother not with your brother

  • The outdoor channel is not the hunting channel. Obviously anyone watching a hunting show is a hunter and will have no problem with impact shots. But what if this commercial is aired during a fishing show (or other non hunting shows)? Now your showing kill shots to potential non hunters/kids and there is a chance (very slim chance) that it could offend the non hunters out there. And in a world of ridiculous lawsuits it's better to play it safe. (I'm a hunter and have no problem with kill shots)

  • I think they should of shown the full commercial I don't see any issues as far as trad hunting

  • I quit watching TV years ago, so what a TV channel does is irrelevant to me.

  • Banning reality, sucks this is why the outdoor channel and hunting channels in general are on there way out, vids on youtube are way better and no commercials

  • There seem to be however ads that pop up on youtube half way though a video, and as far as hunting cant take watching how their products work then dont watch, hunting requires killing, and its unfortunate that a good product like three rivers puts out cant be shown in its entirety, since a small buisness like three rivers can use all the help it can, they are biggest spot for supplys yes but only have a handful of workers,  I have been there its fifteen miles from me and they know their stuff.

  • The Outdoor Channel is falling victim to "Political Correctness". IMO the O/C is a place to show the realities of outdoors sports including hunting which is at times a "messy" sport in some peoples minds. Most viewers of the O/C are outdoorsman farmiliar with hunting so I think impact shots should be allowed, PERIOD! It's what really happens in the game field. If you don't want to see impact shots, watch NASCAR or golf shows for crying out loud! The O/C is starting to suck anyway. Nuff said!

  • I know this is late and maybe out of place but I will stand by Dale Sandy and Crew. I know for a fact (having huted with them) that this is a first rate outfit with the highest of standards and would be willing only to show the truth that is in what we call hunting. If you or your loved ones have a problem with the coverage of thier commercial (sp) get over it!! Sooner or later it will happen to YOU!

    Brandon

  • Ive seen this commercial on the outdoor channel and recently too. so dont know about the band it's supposed to have like the title said. but did any one notice on the last shot, how untuned the arrow was how it flopped around in a circle as it few towards the javelina. lol love to c pros useing bad form and haveing bad shots in front of the camera for thousands to c. im no pro but I wouldnt show mistakes like that on camera. bad shots happen but to have an untuned bow just plan lazy.

  • @bigmusic39 The commercial you see here on Youtube is the commercial as it was originally intended to air. The Outdoor Channel rejected it because it had impact shots. The commercial you saw on the Outdoor Channel was an edited version that censored the impact shots. As for the arrow, Dale took this shot during 40 to 50 mile an hour winds. Any arrow will react that way under those conditions. Regardless, the arrow hit its mark and the javelina is now mounted in Dale's office.

  • @3RiversArchery 40 or 50 mph winds? lol the vegetation isnt moving..besides that didnt look like wind drift it looked like his fletching had contact with his shelf on release

  • @littlebigman243 If you go to the trailer for the Javelina DVD from which that footage was taken you can clearly see vegetation moving before and after the shot. The reason you don't see the vegetation moving during the shot is because it is in slow motion. Youtube doesn't allow links in posts, but if you search for "3Rivers Javelina" it's the first video that shows up.

  • @3RiversArchery its the exact same clip, and im sure the wind was blowing a little, but even in slow motion you should see the vegetation moving. im sure there was some wind, just not 40 or 50 mph. but i've gotta stay with my diagnosis looks like fletching made contact with the shelf. or the string twisted off his fingers on release. you never know tho his rest could have messed up or the arrow might not have been perfectly straight. lots of stuff can happen in the field.

  • @bigmusic39 that's the difference between you and a pro, you hide your goofs and pretend to be better than you are, professionals deal with it and know its part of the game.

  • @bigmusic39 so tell me how you tune a longbow? lol

  • Awesome awesome awesome! Love 3 rivers archery ordered a catalog and eagerly awaiting, awesome recurve muskox kill wooooooot! subd and friended! 5/5

  • The bellow and death struggle should be shown. It's reality. It's what really happens. Why gloss over it and hide the truth? THAT's what's disrespecting the animal. Acting like the animal dies instantly at impact, when in many cases it doesn't.

  • That is a great commercial. All totally legal, ethical shots.

    It's time to stand up and be proud, not hide in fear of what someone might think.

  • I think a clean shot and intial impact are fine to show.

    That's all that is needed.

    Skip the resulting animal stumble, fall or bellow, don't display the death struggle. I love to hunt with bow and rifle, but even I have been a bit put off by some vids showing the death following the shot.

    Seems a bit voyeuristic. Respect the animal, don't post the death, that should be a private moment. It robs the dignity from the animal.

    Praise the animal, don't disrespect it.

  • @kep67 beautifully said

  • i'm happy that not everyone shoots compound :)

    grtz

  • How much money do traditional archers spend compared to their compound using friends? Especially if they make their own tackle?  A traditional bow costs only a few hundred bucks, and lasts for decades. The hunting business fears the rise of traditional archery because it's almost a cost free way to enjoy archery, and it's much more fun!

  • The outdoor channel is missing out on a great Commercial.

  • To be honest I don't watch hunting or fishing shows. I want to be out there DOING it myself. I live in the outdoors so who needs TV. Plus I think that these pro hunters are very much like any other sports figure Overpaid, and it won't be too long before their heads get a bit bigger too.

  • the outdoor channel gets money from sponsorships and selling air time like every other television station. these big time stars like jordan and waddell work on ratings like every other actor. i'm sure the biggest contributors call the shots and they want you to watch their show to see the impacts. it's all about ratings, air time and corporate fat cats trying to sell some high tech mumbo jumbo that has nothing to do with killing a deer. it has really gotten rediculous.

  • Man thats some awesome footage and great lookin hunting...nice work.

    Awesome commercial.

    Thumbs up!

  • @ Maxdesander : YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT !!!

  • the outdoor channel allows an impact shot but don't allow a replay of the impact unless their is something special about the impact, i have seen only three replays and i watch just about every hunting show on the channel.

  • The Outdoor Channel does allow impact shots in their shows, but not in commercials.

  • @3RiversArchery @ 0:25 the arrow dosent look like its spined for that bow, it looks like its fish tailing

  • Banning impact shots in hunting commercials is like banning home run replays in baseball commercials!! Just plain stupid is what it is!!  I don't get the Outdoor Channel as I don't have satellite TV but I really don't think they have an agenda against traditional bowhunters. I don't bowhunt but love to watch it when ever I can and in whatever style there is. Long bow, recurve, compound or cross - all are exciting and challenging!! Restore this commercial is my response!!

  • "Banning impact shots in hunting commercials is like banning home run replays in baseball commercials!!" I couldn't think of a better analogy than this, well said. All I can say is, damn hippies are now influencing areas I never thought they could.

    Horses are naturally skittish around people....why? Because we are naturally predators, like it or not. Notice how our eyes are close together for better depth perception, just like wild cats and all other predators.

  • "The culture I stand for is sometimes lost into todays society, when in fact society was built on the culture of THE HUNTER. A hunter is more than a predator, a hunter is a providera caretakera leader. I will never make excuses for who I am.."

    Now where have I heard that?

    Oh yeah I remember... on The "Bone Collector", a show produced by the outdoor channel. I hope what you say in the description isn't the reason they don't show impact shots, but it probably is.

  • they need to ban the rich putzes who banned this commercial you know the ones who drive around in their golf carts to hunt giving their advice on how to hunt. I am sick of those polished shows. 3 rivers is awesome!

  • what is that one thing at 12 seconds

  • That is a musk ox.

  • @llbartlett96 musk ox ...

  • @tuttoz You can see that 3riversarchery has already responded, so there is no need to respond.

  • Ban on impact shots? Well that explains why the rage broadhead commercials have the black Censored bar covering the animals.

  • I watch the outdoor channel 24/7 and think I see? other commercials with impact shots, I think? But am not toatally sure on that, I watch more close next time. thanks

  • Here is what I don't understand.

    Do shows on the outdoor channel contain impact shots?

    Yes.

    Then why not the commercials?

  • I personally think this is more than likely the effect of Animal Rights. The "Oh noes! Poor animals being hurt on television! Don't show it to our children! Turn it to war or something else without animals being hurt, or exploited or something!" Before long, they're going to have hunting banned from television, meat banned from farms, and animals banned as pets. Of course, everyone is 'well it's not me' until it is and then it's too late.

  • As far as i'm concerned animals have one 1 right and that's to taste good ;)

  • I didn't see why this vid should be banned. I love bowhunting as well. There was nothing distasteful about it. I shoot my compound alot and love it, but I plan on making a flat bow out of orange osage and hunting with it. Ahh a bow just like the native americans used!

  • I think I might have seen a Burt Coyote Lumenok commercial on the Outdoor Channel with a bunch of impact shots but I watch both both Outdoor Channel and Sportsmen Channel so I'm not sure exactly what one I saw it on.

  • so it's okey to show a rocket hitting a target or a A10 shredding up some ppl but no can't show poor animals getting hurt lol

  • prey do not suffer any less at the hands of a lion.

  • And we have the obligation to hunt any animal who's predators have been so reduced in population as to not control over-population of the prey animal. It is inhumane to allow starvation due to over-population.

  • Does this mean they should also not show the moment of a fish taking bait on a line when a hook sets in an underwater video of angling?

    It is the same kind of thing.

    I could be wrong, but it sounds like the Outdoor Channel caved into some pressure of activists that would rather just see there channel taken off cable and satellite altogether.

    The Outdoor Channel should be careful whom they try to please. It could be there demise.

  • maybe they figure if they dont show impact shots that people wont realize an arrow cuts flesh to the point of killing the animal. the impact is a short easy to stomach part of hunting. pretty soon they wont show the animal after a kill if there is blood visable.

  • I like target shooting with the bow, but when it comes to killing, I prefer the rifle, as I believe death for an innocent creature, should be as quick and painless as possible.

  • Maxdesander: Thank you for the comment. While we agree that the animal should suffer as little as possible, a good, clean shot with an arrow is going to be as quick and painless as a good, clean shot with a rifle. By the same token, a bad shot with either weapon is going to have the same negative results.

    We do appreciate and understand your position, however.

  • Actually, I've seen more bad shots & wounded deer during rifle season than archery. And I hunt both, so I'm not bashing anyone here. But you are more apt to take a less than perfect shot with a gun such as a running shot, or head on, or too far away. Where as MOST archers wait for that perfect quartering away-broadside shot. So in my experience, I would say that a skilled archery hunter is going to put a better shot on that animal than 75% of the gun hunters out there. Just my 2 cents....

  • well most archers can get more practice than gunners because while they havge to go to a shooting range, archers can practice just about anywhere...even their own backyards

  • if you think about it when you make a good shot on a deer it will only go 50 yards well a deer can travel that distance very fast so it doesent take long for the deer to die

  • Many times times they don't even feel a thing, or even know they're dying.  sharp broadheads make the difference. I've seen film of deer feeding, being shot through the lungs, look up, THEN CONTINUE FEEDING TILL THEY DROP. Let's see a rifle hunter do it more humanely than that! I hope to perform this feat one day. I've only killed one, it was with a heart shot at last light. He did the "donkey Kick", ran across a logging road, looked back and fell over. all in about 4 seconds covering 50 feet.

  • @Maxdesander arrow has better penetration than abullet any day of the week....bow and arrow is the quickest way to the vitals where as arifle blast will reach but its more shock than actual damage to the vitals....

  • I think that outdoor channel should show impact shots on it's commercial. It's more motivation for customers.

  • definitely. i was convinced.

  • wat state?

  • To sit down and watch a hunting clip and expecting NOT to see impact shots is PURE HIPOCRICY (is that spelled right?). Hunting is about preparation, tracking, killing and producing food and raw material. You cannot have one without the other. If you have a problem with seeing animals killed - DON'T WATCH!

  • How screwed up can we get here, almost every show you turn on regular tv is about sex but god forbid don't show people hunting.

  • agreed

  • The outdoor channel has not "banned impact shots"...I think every single show last night had atleast 1 impact shot. Spirit of the Wild had like 4 or 5.

  • Actually, the Outdoor Channel has banned impact shots on their commercials. The shows themselves still have impacts. We'll clarify things in the description for the video. Sorry for the confusion.

  • who the hell just decides to not show impact shots. thats some serious B*&^ S%$^ i mean, like said below. if they dont wanna watch it then turn the god dang channel...not cut it out, for us hunters who actually enjoy watchin that kinda stuff...this world is goin soft and its a sad thing to see...

  • bowhunting is my favorite way of hunting because uhh... its fun?

  • You have GOT to be kidding, they don't allow impact shots anymore? I haven't seen them for a long time. That sux. I guess they'll be going the way of the dodo, and we'll be just buying DVD's of our favorites.

  • ya the same people that don't want to watch this will rent some horrific war movie or Friday the 13th. Give me a break. I personally will never video a hunt that I do but that is me. Last time I checked this was United States of America and we do have the freedom of speech. IF you don't like it don't watch it.

  • I dont get why some people on these shows downplay the killing aspect of hunting. Like when they get to an animal and its clearly been cleaned up with no blood in its nose or mouth and the entry/exit wound is clean. Killing isnt pretty and shouldnt be shown to the general public as such. Don't want to see it? Don't tune in!

  • I see no problem with hunting, or impact shots. If you wanted to watch a person hunt an animal you would expect to see them shoot and kill it. They give warnings about impact shots before the show. Besides if you cant take seeing an animal be shot then you havent been in the world very long. You usually see more violence in the news

  • Hunting is not an American tradition, it's a world tradition. Anywhere hunting or fishing does not exist, people don't exist. The people that complain should not go to these sites. They knew where they were going when they logged on to hunting sites. It's their optionto watch. We have to ingnore rude comments and keep our powder dry and our arrows flying true.

  • 3River's Archery rocks U guys are the best out there I love this ad.

    Cody

  • this should be banned. you must respect the fact that some people do not want to see animals harmed, even if the same moment they are eating a burger. its their right that they do not want to SEE this. i do not say if it is okay or not to hunt, i just want to say that people have the right of do not want to SEE these actions.

  • you have every right not to see anything you don't want to see. Just pick up the damn remote and CHANGE THE CHANNEL. What you have absolutely NO right to do is stop ME from watching something I like which is perfectly legal and no more immoral than ordering a Big Mac.

  • Hunting is possibly even more moral!

    At least what you kill in the wild has lived in the wild, and not been bred in a cage for the past few years.

  • Takilicio -- if viewers did not want to see impacts, they would not be watching the channel in the first place. These type of commercials are shown during shows that show impacts in the shows themselves. They are, after all, hunting shows.

  • Reason y this was probably bannes is because itsa "taboo" to hurt nature in any way shape or form. dam geenies. Oh im all for protecting our enviorment but some people are over zealous about such things.

  • I hear you. I'm all for killing anything as long as the hunter eats what they shoot. including mt. lions in a tree.

  • nice ad nice company. i for one do not care how many times they show the impact or kill shot. thats how many of learn. most of the people watching are hunters or outdoorspeople and should not be offended those that are need not watch its really that easy. beware of the antis. thanks for this vid and your ot hers. Ron

  • my grandfather used a longbow

  • GOOD SHOOTING

  • Ok y is this banned?

  • It was banned because the Outdoor Channel has a policy of not showing impact shots in commercials. An edited version currently runs which blocks out the impacts using effects.

  • Oh well...you guys still rock.....just found you this year when I decided to get my old PSE recurve back out....love my Tred B arrows

  • Even ESPN2 shows impact shots!

  • why won't they allow a commercial showing kill shots, if they air shows showing kill shots?

  • i think its a respect thing. Even on the shows, they only show the impact once. During replays they show everything leading up to the shot, but not the shot iteself

  • why was that banned on the commercial?

  • awesome channel and videos keep

    bringin' em 

    you get chance check my channel!

    thanks dave

  • According to OC policy, no commercials may contain kill shots. Other outdoor networks (MAN, Pursuit, Sportsman, etc) allow it, but not Outdoor Channel.

  • I would rather see the impact shot. Anyone who cannot stand this sort of thing can just change the damn channel far as im concerned.

    Woot, Bow Hunting Squirrel Today....

    First one i ever shot with my bow.

    T-Shuttle Lock Tight Point Broad Head.

  • what the heck do you think we did before there was a fasfood place at every corner? the tree huggers banning these commercials really makes me mad. Is hunting and animal and showing it on tv really that bad? its got to be a heck of a lot better than hitting a cow on the head with a hammer. its not like this commercial showed the animals suffering. it may not be the best thing for kids to see, but maybe they need to see how this country came together by actually hunting for the meat they consume.

  • ive seen it on the outdoor channel it is not banned.

  • What you have seen is our edited commercial, with the impact shots obscured by lighting effects and logos. If you have seen the unedited version on the Outdoor Channel, it was probably from a year or two ago before they forced us to edit it.

  • that is an awsome video

  • Outdoor channel should not be banning impact shots, thats like SPEEDTv banning showing a win at a NASCAR race. If outdoor channel wants to ban impact shots then they need to just change their name and show reruns of Oprah. Get Pursuit TV its much better anyway, its 95% hunting shows and 80% of that is bowhunting

  • AWESOME!!

    lj

  • great video there is nothing wrong showing a impact shot it shows that a well placed shot with the proper equipment and pratice will harvest any big game animal.

  • i read on there website in the commercial thing that you cant have any impact shots in a commercial so thats y

  • really why

  • Because the people that want to shield everyone from the fact that animals die for food, scream the loudest and The squeaky wheel gets the grease

  • hope theres hunting in heaven lol

  • dale kurch has the best hunting style.. i think most of those shot's are his

  • People today are so whiney.How can they show people getting shot on the news or dead bodies from wartime on the history channel,but you watch a channel about killing things(Hey,think about it,it's true) and they ban it.The world makes no sense.

  • I agree with starryeyedcowgirl those shots were beautiful.

  • my goodness. I would rather have a young one sit and watch people hunt (the right way) then the murders and rapes and thug rappers on TV! These were all VERY well-placed shots and if you are offended by impact shots, turn on the Disney channel! (That kudu really jumped! What a close shot!!)

  • PETA=people eat tast animals if u didnt wanna c a arrow hit a deer or animal why watch the outdoor channel then? its either hunting fishing and occasionaly r/c shows and fourwheeling

  • Anyone who would be offended by an impact shot needs to find a different TV channel,lol! You can watch all sorts of heinous crap on cable but you can't watch an arrow impact a deer?

  • love that shot at the end

  • unfortunately impact shots are "offensive" to people. I for one believe that if you are watching a hunting program, impact shots should be expected. Impact shots are my favorite part of the program because you get to see where they hit the animal and how it reacts to the hit.

    yes i bow hunt

    one shot one kill

    if you shoot it you better eat it.

  • i completely agree. i like being able to compare my skill level to that of the pro's plus we get to see how well the products that they were using worked

  • I don't eat it. There are 30 million foxes in Australia that destroy the environment so it's about controlling numbers. And getting some tails hehe.

  • What game do you bow hunt for?

  • bear, deer, moose, turkey and sometimes even fish

  • how is this baned??

  • Most Broadcast television contracts with networks have rules against showing impact shots on commercials.  However, most outdoor and hunting show networks do allow impact shots during the show, with restrictions such as showing it one time, in real time no slow motion impacts, and no repeats of impact.

  • GREAT VIDEO !! It actually made me think about seriously buying A nice recurve!

  • I go to local video store and see dozens of slasher/blood and guts movies for the kids and no hunting videos because they may harm jr's sensabilaties.Get real!!

  • I just got myself a Kingfisher recurve bow to learn, Im wondering whats to stop that moose from taking off with your arrow? Doesnt it take more than 1 shot to kill with a bigger animal like that?

  • no, it should only take one shot for anything if u hit it in the right spot...i don't care for guiding outfitter crap, but i saw a guy on tv kill a hippo with the bow only using one shot...was interesting and stupid all at the same time

  • That last shot shown is fricking amazing.

    They should always show impact shots....always. 99% of the reason for watching hunting on tv is the see "where did he hit" Otherwise there would never be a bad shot by a hunters own admission

  • agreed about both pieces.

  • great commercial.how 'bout allowing this commercial which depicts a healthy,honest activity and ban all the violent tripe shown to our youth 24-7 on prime time tv.

  • This commercial just aired on the OC this morning as well as last night.

  • cant show impacts on animals, but impacts on humans on csi Miami is ok???

  • Watched it last weekend on dish

    GREAT!

  • Did you see the guy shoot the fish, I know someone that does that

  • i bowfish alot. way more fun than waiting for a fish to bite.

  • We bowfish for carp up here on the Columbia river .Nothin like sticking a 40 pnd carp.

  • As a hunter I say:

    GREAT video footage! Makes me want to go moose hunting all the more!

    On promoting hunting to the general public, I say:

    Ease off on the impact views, they may be a bit much for someone thinking about getting into hunting. Once they get hooked though...

    Rhys

  • show it all i mean if the commercial is planning on motivating people to be hunters the hunters are going to have to experience the impact shot and the removal, and the gutting, and the cleaning. to me thats just bull

  • wow liberal pansies, how can an outdoor network be liberal? that just amazes me

  • OC has never allowed impact shots on TV spots. All other outdoor TV networks also have the same rules in regards to TV spot impact shots.

  • Should show it

  • show the impact... hell show the arrow removal

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