What, no mention of the "Playground"? hahaha. Ok brother. With all due respect, I wish I had a nickel for everytime I hear someone say they lived it or was "there". It's funny though...cheesy or not, the HM5's playlist consisted of many, if not all the same tracks/songs that were being played at these clubs (Go Bang, Thousand Finger Man, You Can't Fake It, Loose Joints IIAOMF, T. Gardner's Work That Body. etc) At least Farley's sets did. As well as S. Silk's & a million other jocks in the city.
No proof being sought. No hostility either. As I said to you before, respects brother. I was just interested to know where your info came from. That's all. We all know now though thank you. Wish I was as old as you to have gone to some of these things. Born too late I guess. Big ups to you and have a safe NY. :)
It was the club dj's many unknown who never got their due, that made those songs work. We were playing the Issac Hayes "I Can't Turn Around" straight version and adding a bottom track for bass, long before Pandy and Silk and others put it out on 12". Alot of songs just simple not "pressed" (as we called it) for club play. Frankie had his only way of making Stevie's Do I Do a club Must Hear
Nothing personal against the HM5, but alot of their mixes just got to electronc sometimes.
Didn't read anywhere. WE were spinning the best mixes in the gay clubs before the Hotmix 5 were heard. the whole HOTMIX era was a commercialization of the the undergrand club mixes.
I asked where you may have read that because I'd like to read it myself. Unless of course that is an opinion of yours formed from either conversations had over the years with your peers or it's just a common sentiment trickled down from many "back in the day" gay and straight clubbers/djs of the 70's and early 80's. I didn't post this to invite debate. Simply to share with others who may have not been there that night at the House Of Blues.
12? No. Was listening to wbmx since 1981 though. Not defending them, but IF indeed the Hot Mix 5 ripped off anything from the gay clubs (I say IF, though), there was a long line ahead of them in that respect. My understanding has always been that djs on the radio simply played what was hot in the clubs. Honestly, its what I would have done myself. And Im sure many artists back then were only to happy to have their work go from the club to radio. (Respects brother)
@cratebug Hey did you ever listen to the source 88.1 back in the day? I used to stay up and record them on my cassette deck radio. When the mixing would be long i would switch the stations and pause the cassette then let go 88.1 really did a very good of promoting house back then. Any response is greatly appreciated.
Whatever your opinion is of WBMX and the djs featured back then, in my opinion it did do one good thing, it exposed the music to all lifestyles and ages....not just one.
@cratebug to the jealous little whiner... the hot mix 5 were DJ's and not all DJ's in Chicago were gay, in fact, there were many of us who were inspired to be a DJ without ever once knowing your mentality We played music and mixed music, the Hot Mix 5 brought it all to the radio after DAI fell on its face.
There was no prostituting of 'house' music, in fact before your Messiah who could produce but couldn't mix to save his life came around at your shrine 'The Warehouse' , the 1st DISCO to be called a DISCO in chicago was at the Ambassador East in 1973 called The Buttery and guess what, there was no talk of a gay rip-off, it was about having a good time. No one cared if you were gay straight or blew goats ok? So take your revisionism and small-mindedness elsewhere
blkherculesdc, I hear you. Like Larry Levan, Ron Hardy is up there in regards to the true house sound, and I'm not just referring to the Chicago side of it. He was a true pioneer and is still missed today. God always takes the good ones. :(
yeah, im on both sides, an avid club goer, and a mobile Dj. So i see from both sides, however its awesome when dj's pull out some Armand Van Helden or Felix Da housecat. In Richmond theres a new club called BPM in the bottom, hoping it proves to be worthwhile...?
I know reside in the Washington, D.C. Metro area as well - HOUSE MUSIC here in the East Coast is Weak - However thanks to the efforts of so many I have a chance to display to friends and co-workers that Chicago House will always be the SHIT
LONG LIVE the HOTMIX 5 - IN High School I would sit up and record the mixes - DAYUm I wish I had those tapes today...
oh man see they appreciate HOUSE MUSIC IN CHICAGO I miss home THESE PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON DC ARE WEAK KEEP HOUSEMUSIC ALIVE IN CHICAGO MY FELLOW HOUSE HEADS
I'M IN WASHINGTON DC the DJS HERE ARE WEAK they play what they want tohear and not what the people want to hear and most of the stuff they pkay is weak they don't even play the best classics every once in a blue moon you get a good night then the start playing that off the wall shit no one wants to hear GOD I MISS RON HARDY
@blkherculesdc all opinion based and to be honest, Ron Hardy was no different than dozens of other DJ's out there, your mind just romanticizes about the times.
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clubfmradio 4 months ago
A recommended read for all:
LAST NIGHT A DJ SAVED MY LIFE: the history Of the Disc Jockey
By Bill Brewster and Frank Broughton
(It's informative and sheds light on alot I would have otherwise never known ~ Dj Cratebug)
cratebug 3 years ago
Dont need to read man. Lived it. Music Box, Powerplant, Warehouse...and smaller venues all before the HOTMIX five. Just cheesy they were.
blkguyjusttryn 3 years ago
What, no mention of the "Playground"? hahaha. Ok brother. With all due respect, I wish I had a nickel for everytime I hear someone say they lived it or was "there". It's funny though...cheesy or not, the HM5's playlist consisted of many, if not all the same tracks/songs that were being played at these clubs (Go Bang, Thousand Finger Man, You Can't Fake It, Loose Joints IIAOMF, T. Gardner's Work That Body. etc) At least Farley's sets did. As well as S. Silk's & a million other jocks in the city.
cratebug 3 years ago
Haha .. no need to prove it to you young'in.
Listen.. lose the hostility.. you might learn something. Inanyevent.. have fun.
blkguyjusttryn 3 years ago
No proof being sought. No hostility either. As I said to you before, respects brother. I was just interested to know where your info came from. That's all. We all know now though thank you. Wish I was as old as you to have gone to some of these things. Born too late I guess. Big ups to you and have a safe NY. :)
cratebug 3 years ago
It was the club dj's many unknown who never got their due, that made those songs work. We were playing the Issac Hayes "I Can't Turn Around" straight version and adding a bottom track for bass, long before Pandy and Silk and others put it out on 12". Alot of songs just simple not "pressed" (as we called it) for club play. Frankie had his only way of making Stevie's Do I Do a club Must Hear
Nothing personal against the HM5, but alot of their mixes just got to electronc sometimes.
blkguyjusttryn 3 years ago
Hot mix five were the worst. Rip offs and prosituted house music from the gay clubs
blkguyjusttryn 3 years ago
Ah, I see. Wear did YOU read that?
cratebug 3 years ago
Didn't read anywhere. WE were spinning the best mixes in the gay clubs before the Hotmix 5 were heard. the whole HOTMIX era was a commercialization of the the undergrand club mixes.
blkguyjusttryn 3 years ago
I asked where you may have read that because I'd like to read it myself. Unless of course that is an opinion of yours formed from either conversations had over the years with your peers or it's just a common sentiment trickled down from many "back in the day" gay and straight clubbers/djs of the 70's and early 80's. I didn't post this to invite debate. Simply to share with others who may have not been there that night at the House Of Blues.
cratebug 3 years ago
So you were DJ'n in the clubs when you were 12 huh?
blkguyjusttryn 3 years ago
12? No. Was listening to wbmx since 1981 though. Not defending them, but IF indeed the Hot Mix 5 ripped off anything from the gay clubs (I say IF, though), there was a long line ahead of them in that respect. My understanding has always been that djs on the radio simply played what was hot in the clubs. Honestly, its what I would have done myself. And Im sure many artists back then were only to happy to have their work go from the club to radio. (Respects brother)
cratebug 3 years ago
@cratebug Hey did you ever listen to the source 88.1 back in the day? I used to stay up and record them on my cassette deck radio. When the mixing would be long i would switch the stations and pause the cassette then let go 88.1 really did a very good of promoting house back then. Any response is greatly appreciated.
hotmasked1 1 year ago
Whatever your opinion is of WBMX and the djs featured back then, in my opinion it did do one good thing, it exposed the music to all lifestyles and ages....not just one.
cratebug 3 years ago
@cratebug to the jealous little whiner... the hot mix 5 were DJ's and not all DJ's in Chicago were gay, in fact, there were many of us who were inspired to be a DJ without ever once knowing your mentality We played music and mixed music, the Hot Mix 5 brought it all to the radio after DAI fell on its face.
clubfmradio 4 months ago
There was no prostituting of 'house' music, in fact before your Messiah who could produce but couldn't mix to save his life came around at your shrine 'The Warehouse' , the 1st DISCO to be called a DISCO in chicago was at the Ambassador East in 1973 called The Buttery and guess what, there was no talk of a gay rip-off, it was about having a good time. No one cared if you were gay straight or blew goats ok? So take your revisionism and small-mindedness elsewhere
clubfmradio 4 months ago
blkherculesdc, I hear you. Like Larry Levan, Ron Hardy is up there in regards to the true house sound, and I'm not just referring to the Chicago side of it. He was a true pioneer and is still missed today. God always takes the good ones. :(
OneMixDJ 3 years ago
Respects to both. For sure. God didn't take them though. Sadly, both did a number on themselves.
cratebug 3 years ago
yeah, im on both sides, an avid club goer, and a mobile Dj. So i see from both sides, however its awesome when dj's pull out some Armand Van Helden or Felix Da housecat. In Richmond theres a new club called BPM in the bottom, hoping it proves to be worthwhile...?
idreamofgts 3 years ago
i miss chicago all nighters
betafin 4 years ago
I know reside in the Washington, D.C. Metro area as well - HOUSE MUSIC here in the East Coast is Weak - However thanks to the efforts of so many I have a chance to display to friends and co-workers that Chicago House will always be the SHIT
LONG LIVE the HOTMIX 5 - IN High School I would sit up and record the mixes - DAYUm I wish I had those tapes today...
drboot 4 years ago
oh man see they appreciate HOUSE MUSIC IN CHICAGO I miss home THESE PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON DC ARE WEAK KEEP HOUSEMUSIC ALIVE IN CHICAGO MY FELLOW HOUSE HEADS
blkherculesdc 4 years ago 2
what part of the east coast are you? I know its pretty weak over here, I agree. If your in VA I got a few places to check out.
idreamofgts 3 years ago
I'M IN WASHINGTON DC the DJS HERE ARE WEAK they play what they want tohear and not what the people want to hear and most of the stuff they pkay is weak they don't even play the best classics every once in a blue moon you get a good night then the start playing that off the wall shit no one wants to hear GOD I MISS RON HARDY
blkherculesdc 3 years ago
@blkherculesdc all opinion based and to be honest, Ron Hardy was no different than dozens of other DJ's out there, your mind just romanticizes about the times.
clubfmradio 4 months ago