a bloom box cost 30,000 if scientist could do this isnt it about time to start making fuel out of marijuana o yea thats right its illegal ...damn!...... instead of moving more forward we will have to wait till it becomes reality
I would be happy if he showed it powering up a lightbulb. Is this just a solid state engine HOW DOES IT WORK. SHOW ME. I have a idea I will install a windmill on my car so when i drive i can power my car with the wind i generate from moving. Anyone want to invest it that idea?????
They are not telling us how it works-
that is a red flag.
They are not showing us it working powering a high load device. (or even a 100w light bulb).
It would be great if it works, but i need numbers.
This Is a solid oxide fuel cell. Use Wikipedia to find out more about what they are. The big deal about Bloom Energy, is that they use cheap, abundant, available materials instead of using ultra expensive materials like Platinum. This should make solid oxide fuel cells dirt cheap. I doubt that it will take 10 years for the price to come down. Maybe Bloom Energy is saying 10 years to through their competitors off.
Excellent piece. Check out the rare and candid Fresh Dialogues interview with Bloom Energy's CEO while they were in stealth mode. KR answers the questions: is bloom's solution really non-polluting? How is the Bloom Box a bridge to the future and how can it be the gas station of tomorrow?
Check out the Fresh DIalogues channel for many more green interviews: Tom Friedman, Paul Krugman, Martin Sheen and many more.
Assuming 80% efficiency and $1.20/Therm it would cost about 6 cents per kilowatt hour. I pay about 9.5 cents today. I don't believe this will sell for $3000 since you need inverters and controllers and installation so IMO $6000 minimum. At my 600 KW-HR per month it would take me 23.8 years to get my money back.
It may not be the answer, but at least people are out there going at it. For all you fossil fuel lovers out there, regardless of how long reserves can possibly last, they are finite. Fossil fuels are NOT the future. I personally feel the answer will exist in the energy that binds the nucleons of an atom. The world is not ready for that just yet.
Most of us, other than the gas companies of course, aren't fossil fuel lovers so much as profitable and economic fuel lovers. There will be a day when something becomes more profitable and economical than fossil fuels, but until then that is what we have to use. My view of the future.... a fuel cell derived from this, cheap enough for most families to buy and nuclear fusion plants for a cheap infrastructure. All of this, of course, is either payed for privately or by a flat-income tax of <11% :)
At least France is. The notion of nuclear waste is a lie. All the 'waste' the US has generated in its nuclear history could fit on a football field 15' deep and of that 96% can be processed into fuel. Nuclear power and hydrogen cars needed now. Fusion will come online in about 30-50 years but I agree with you on nuclear today.
Not much is certain. But we can be certain that when someone speaks with certainty about things that are uncertain, one can be certain that person is full of crap.
Unfortunately Nuclear Power has been tied into knots by the Enviornmental groups. I think the Thorium reactor is better since it produces less radiation/waist & weapons are much more difficult to create. Fusion is the ultimate but Its been 20years in the future since they started on it in the 60s. A breakthrough could bring it overnight.
@sr60627 There is no full video. This was just a sneak peak to promote BloomEnergy's public reveal of the product which they are doing on Wednesday at 10:30am Central. I don't know where you could watch the reveal, but I assume their website will have a detailed video about the Bloom Box up sometime on Wednesday
Check out Clear Edge Home Fuel Cell system for sale now. This bloom product will be manufactured in India so few US jobs will be created. BTW these things just convert natural gas to electricity but since at the point of use they save about 50% by avoiding the heat turbine loss and transmission loss. These look promising but once everybody has these hooked up NG will skyrocket in price.
Nonsense. There is a vast amount of cheap nat gas in the US. Total US reserves have increased ~33% in just the last few years due to new frac technology making the massive shale gas formations extremely productive. We easily have enough gas in the US to last at least a century - and as new technology and drilling/completion techniques are used, we will likely prove up enough gas to last a few centuries.
So are you claiming that the US could eliminate 6000 electric generation plants and go to a NG-Fuel Cell approach without making a dent in the NG supply or is this 100 years based on present consumption? Remember new technology, deeper wells, offshore etc costs more so I cannot believe moving in this direction will not increase NG cost remarkably.
You are clearly ignorant of the recent shale gas discoveries and the dramatic downward effect on prices it has caused. Just look at drill rig count - down 40% but production is up several percent - if anyone had suggested such a thing was possible just 2-3 years ago, they'd be locked up in an asylum for the criminally insane.
The producers could find an infinite source but all they have to do is throttle the production. I think present prices are more a reflection of the recession than anything else.
Great alternative energy source. Its going to take a lot innovation and fighting the big utility companies to get this to every home in America. I t hink its a start. Anything to empower household to generate their own energy is good.
looks like a hot water heater
s0medudeonline 1 month ago
what this video lacked was the, produces power... out of what!?
LordMew 1 year ago
are the factories making the bloom box using emissions free energy to manufacture it?
how much oil does it take to make a bloom box?
bbbleaver 2 years ago
a bloom box cost 30,000 if scientist could do this isnt it about time to start making fuel out of marijuana o yea thats right its illegal ...damn!...... instead of moving more forward we will have to wait till it becomes reality
kjhvhgd 2 years ago
@kjhvhgd Well this is already reality, we just have to wait for it to become affordable.
watchulla 2 years ago
I would be happy if he showed it powering up a lightbulb. Is this just a solid state engine HOW DOES IT WORK. SHOW ME. I have a idea I will install a windmill on my car so when i drive i can power my car with the wind i generate from moving. Anyone want to invest it that idea?????
They are not telling us how it works-
that is a red flag.
They are not showing us it working powering a high load device. (or even a 100w light bulb).
It would be great if it works, but i need numbers.
johnjay6370 2 years ago
This Is a solid oxide fuel cell. Use Wikipedia to find out more about what they are. The big deal about Bloom Energy, is that they use cheap, abundant, available materials instead of using ultra expensive materials like Platinum. This should make solid oxide fuel cells dirt cheap. I doubt that it will take 10 years for the price to come down. Maybe Bloom Energy is saying 10 years to through their competitors off.
BIGBOY2TON 2 years ago
@johnjay6370 LOL you stupid person this is a news report not a sales pitch, red flag please you dohnut.
toweronepower 1 year ago
I could spend thousands of dollars on a "BloomBox".
.......or I could just do like Tesla did, and take my energy straight from the air for free.
Decisions decisions!
VonHelton 2 years ago 3
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Excellent piece. Check out the rare and candid Fresh Dialogues interview with Bloom Energy's CEO while they were in stealth mode. KR answers the questions: is bloom's solution really non-polluting? How is the Bloom Box a bridge to the future and how can it be the gas station of tomorrow?
Check out the Fresh DIalogues channel for many more green interviews: Tom Friedman, Paul Krugman, Martin Sheen and many more.
FreshDialogues 2 years ago
Sounds fantastic !
sailordoc2007 2 years ago
brilliant!
goonerang 2 years ago
Who Needs Bloom Energy Box, When we have Fuelless Free Energy Box
Google " bloom-energy-box-free-energy.html "
currentspider 2 years ago
Assuming 80% efficiency and $1.20/Therm it would cost about 6 cents per kilowatt hour. I pay about 9.5 cents today. I don't believe this will sell for $3000 since you need inverters and controllers and installation so IMO $6000 minimum. At my 600 KW-HR per month it would take me 23.8 years to get my money back.
spunright 2 years ago
@spunright "Assuming 80% efficiency" You should be embaressed with that statement, you are clueless
toweronepower 1 year ago
@toweronepower So clue us in there towerpower. What do you think the efficiency of this gizmo is? Greater than unity of course-thanks.
spunright 1 year ago
@spunright yaa towerpower clue us in...
RICORECONREDO 1 year ago
It may not be the answer, but at least people are out there going at it. For all you fossil fuel lovers out there, regardless of how long reserves can possibly last, they are finite. Fossil fuels are NOT the future. I personally feel the answer will exist in the energy that binds the nucleons of an atom. The world is not ready for that just yet.
ATMfromNJ 2 years ago
Most of us, other than the gas companies of course, aren't fossil fuel lovers so much as profitable and economic fuel lovers. There will be a day when something becomes more profitable and economical than fossil fuels, but until then that is what we have to use. My view of the future.... a fuel cell derived from this, cheap enough for most families to buy and nuclear fusion plants for a cheap infrastructure. All of this, of course, is either payed for privately or by a flat-income tax of <11% :)
robotmonkey73 2 years ago
At least France is. The notion of nuclear waste is a lie. All the 'waste' the US has generated in its nuclear history could fit on a football field 15' deep and of that 96% can be processed into fuel. Nuclear power and hydrogen cars needed now. Fusion will come online in about 30-50 years but I agree with you on nuclear today.
spunright 2 years ago
Not much is certain. But we can be certain that when someone speaks with certainty about things that are uncertain, one can be certain that person is full of crap.
30-50 years? How about 20-40? Moron.
DelvinDelight 2 years ago
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spunright 2 years ago
I said about which is not certainty moron.
spunright 2 years ago
Unfortunately Nuclear Power has been tied into knots by the Enviornmental groups. I think the Thorium reactor is better since it produces less radiation/waist & weapons are much more difficult to create. Fusion is the ultimate but Its been 20years in the future since they started on it in the 60s. A breakthrough could bring it overnight.
Texmurphy51 2 years ago
@spunright But u didnt turn it to power you wasted it doctor.
toweronepower 1 year ago
lol @ larmar thats exactly what i was thinkin wen i saw this
jake42091 2 years ago
We will never hear from this guy or see this invention after this, and the media won't investigate to see what happened.
larmar6058 2 years ago
not if its on 60 min
diviz0r 2 years ago
"This well change everything."
xxqueenzz50 2 years ago
Where can I see the whole Bloom Box story which is probably 15 minutes long?
sr60627 2 years ago
@sr60627 There is no full video. This was just a sneak peak to promote BloomEnergy's public reveal of the product which they are doing on Wednesday at 10:30am Central. I don't know where you could watch the reveal, but I assume their website will have a detailed video about the Bloom Box up sometime on Wednesday
pizzaman669 2 years ago
Check out Clear Edge Home Fuel Cell system for sale now. This bloom product will be manufactured in India so few US jobs will be created. BTW these things just convert natural gas to electricity but since at the point of use they save about 50% by avoiding the heat turbine loss and transmission loss. These look promising but once everybody has these hooked up NG will skyrocket in price.
spunright 2 years ago
Nonsense. There is a vast amount of cheap nat gas in the US. Total US reserves have increased ~33% in just the last few years due to new frac technology making the massive shale gas formations extremely productive. We easily have enough gas in the US to last at least a century - and as new technology and drilling/completion techniques are used, we will likely prove up enough gas to last a few centuries.
ArthurDentZaphodBeeb 2 years ago
So are you claiming that the US could eliminate 6000 electric generation plants and go to a NG-Fuel Cell approach without making a dent in the NG supply or is this 100 years based on present consumption? Remember new technology, deeper wells, offshore etc costs more so I cannot believe moving in this direction will not increase NG cost remarkably.
spunright 2 years ago
You are clearly ignorant of the recent shale gas discoveries and the dramatic downward effect on prices it has caused. Just look at drill rig count - down 40% but production is up several percent - if anyone had suggested such a thing was possible just 2-3 years ago, they'd be locked up in an asylum for the criminally insane.
ArthurDentZaphodBeeb 2 years ago
The producers could find an infinite source but all they have to do is throttle the production. I think present prices are more a reflection of the recession than anything else.
spunright 2 years ago
Hope this isn't another Steorn thing.
jaybird321 2 years ago
most men, i am not going to buy this just to have my wife get it in a divorse.
Most women, the next house i buy will have one so why sould i get one now.
datzfast 2 years ago
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datzfast 2 years ago
Great alternative energy source. Its going to take a lot innovation and fighting the big utility companies to get this to every home in America. I t hink its a start. Anything to empower household to generate their own energy is good.
ekenedilichukwu 2 years ago
so then your natural gas bill then goes though the roof bedause of demand, no thanks.
datzfast 2 years ago
bingo!
halnwheels 2 years ago
or one might argue as these go on line the total gas consumption goes down
datzfast 2 years ago
hho, solar, algae, magnetic, wind, nuclear, ebm, biothermal, whats next
PhotonStriker 2 years ago
cold fusion
datzfast 2 years ago