TPMtv: A Chat with Paul Krugman

[pretorious700]

Krugman is a statist assclown, panderer to power, and a piece of shit.

[subframer]

krugman is a hyper-partisan, and a smarmy a-hole. i'd pay for the chance to knock his little ass out.....

[llar87]

@subframer Aren't you a little tough guy

[ngarey]

turns out you can never be too pessimistic...

[peppythepanda]

Paul Krugman was right. He doubted his own prediction in this video but it turned out true.

[islandmuffin]

@peppythepanda Study finds Paul Krugman is the most partisan economist. Krugman was the only economist to "significantly" change his stances for partisan reasons. Krugman has even gone so far as to contradict his own findings to bash Republican politicians. - Brett Barkley, Econ Journal Watch, May 2010

[djphatd]

@islandmuffin Wow really, you can do better than that. Going around posting the same comment on Paul Krugman's videos. Come up with your own arguments.

[cooperbry]

@peppythepanda so much for credibility...

[ashaman1999]

wow....he said this a year ago. he must have a crystal ball

[trickay444]

congrats on the Nobel and about you're track record...

[dontvotered]

its crazy how much things change in one year... all the things krugman weren't right yet abt in 2007 are now happening.

[clat1]

isn't Youngstown the city that is #1in home foreclosures?

[fringefries]

How do we drive the right wing crazy? By using their techniques. Our propaganda machine has to be much better and we can learn a lot by watching how they do it. I used to work for a group of conservatives out of necessity of course and they would send out pictures of gay pornography to scare their electorate. We could do the same with soft core child porn to scare the public and blame republicans. I know it's harsh, but if you want to win on logic and reason then you WILL LOSE. Consider it.

[jababik]

I agree with clat1. He makes sense. Bill Clinton brought us NAFTA and we kissed our jobs away.

[Slimdawgc]

Actually, U.S. unemployment has steadily decreased since NAFTA's imposition. The whole "NAFTA takes away jobs" myth is one that is perpetrated by labour radicalists and unionists. Just because something makes "common sense", doesn't mean it's right.

[Whoo69]

While that may be true, it didn't create jobs for the right people. All the job losses because of NAFTA affected mostly small towns who were dependent on these big factories for much job creation, and to kill all those jobs immediately (could be 1,000, maybe 2000 jobs in a 10,000-person town) is really devastating. And NAFTA makes them even less accountable for their despicable actions. Germany requires employers to find laid off workers new jobs afterwards, but we let them get off scot-free.

[Slimdawgc]

Well, take the Youngstown, Ohio example then: the poster child of job losses We find that employment actually soared in this small town after NAFTA's signing. What you're doing is speculating on job losses, but the facts go against your theory. Besides, what do you mean "right people"? That seems like moral relativism to me.

[Whoo69]

where was all that nafta job creation for the local communities devastated by all these job losses?? Nothing happened to offset those losses and restart the economy. No corporate head from Mexico or Canada came in and said "I'm gonna set up shop for my car company and employ 1000s of workers."

[clat1]

but real wages and % of Americans with healthcare has plummeted

[clat1]

Free traders like Krugman or Thurow remind me of the quote "The government is good at one thing. It knows how to break your legs, and then hand you a crutch and say, "See if it weren't for the government, you wouldn't be able to walk". They sent 30 million jobs overseas and now their solution to the problems they caused is to have socialized medicine and a huge welfare state which will never happen.

[acseeley]

Most Americans want some sort of socialized healthcare that would benefit the middle/lower class. Is it wrong to want the Government to act to domestically benefit the citizens of our country on one of the most important issues of the individual citizen?

[clat1]

It might not be wrong but it will never happen. My point is the democrats destroyed an entire class of people (industrial workers mostly unionized) who were democrats because they were sure they could build a welfare state that could take the place of the 30 milllion jobs they sent overseas. They (including fucktard Paul Krugman)caused the problem (healthcare, retirement insecurity, lowered real wages ect ect)why would anyone trust them to fix it?

[krystalpro]

clat1, you are not making any sense. if you want to fill blogs with profanity and childish, unthoughtful remarks such as the ones you've made, why don't you start your own? the ridiculousness of your statements are not worth examining, as opposed to many of the well-written articles and books over the years from krugman recommeding good, sound policy concerning health care, workers' rights, etc..

[clat1]

My union didn't think Krugman (and other liberal sellouts) was recommeding sound policy when he backed free trade-they predicted a fall in wages and benefits and we were right and schumcko was wrong.

[acseeley]

"it will never happen" You are a real dolt aren't you? look at history. Which way does the country drift when you look at it decade by decade. Sure, we regress toward the right occasionally, but the country always ends up further left than it started. Take a look at the last fifty years and tell me this is not the case. You are deluded to think we will not have socialized healthcare eventually, it is only a matter of time my friend.

[clat1]

we will see-I doubt the democrats will win the presidency in 08 even with Iraq and after Katrina

[Whoo69]

gay rights, gay marriage, gay adoption, an end to the war on drugs, keeping women's right to choose, and much more progressive reforms. Hallelujah!

[erkekler]

the union busting which began in earnest with Reagan had much to do with the decline in standards of living of the middle and working classes...by the way, do you know people are less likely to take you seriously when you express yourself with words like "fucktard"?

[clat1]

While I am not a huge Reagan fan he did save the American auto industry by putting quotas on Japanese imports (because they were using underhanded methods to gain marketshare) this is why companies like Toyota and Honda built plants in the United States. And as to language liberals are the most closed minded people on earth- they find any excuse to ignore reality so I do not worry about their hangups.

[jpbalkenende]

Hahaha quota's? That's about as market regulated as you can get.

Liberals have reality on their side. Slavery, segregation, voting rights, ww2 on all these things liberals were right. On economics America after 3 years of conservatism is 14th in GDP per capita so far as I know it's lowest ranking ever. Not to mention education and health which has done worse. The only success story is crime and that only improved since Clinton.

[Slimdawgc]

I agree with you, acseeley. How can one be anti-NAFTA (aka anti-free trade), and at the same time be pro-corporate healthcare, like clat1 is? It appears to me a contradiction in belief.

[clat1]

Easy without competition from slave labor child labor and labor that have virtually no organizing rights workers in the United States will have much more leverage to demand company paid benefits without resorting to socialism. The breakdown in the healthcare system coincided with the massive loss in heavily unionized industrial jobs.

[clat1]

Nope not gonna happen

[freyburg]

How did you record this? Did you record Krugman right off his webcam? Or did he record locally?

[clat1]

this clip needs more Bill O'Reily

[DixonB]

To dumb things down for you, presumably?

[BruinFan08]

very insightful

[clat1]

the Bruins suck too-Paul Krugman is the Harry Sinden of economists

[clat1]

Plus this stupid fuck doesn't mention the dollars plummet in value because he supported the policies that made it happen-I hope he and Tom Friedman and Lester Thurow have coronaries during their group gay sex sessions.

[clat1]

Plus this stupid fuck doesn't mention the dollars plummet in value because he supported the policies that made it happen-I hope he and Tom Friedman and Lester Thurow have coronaries during their group gay sex sessions.

[cyclopticeye]

Loosen that tinfoil hat America hater your days are numbered. You will pay for your treason and hatred of our country soon in a court of law. The left wing has it's shit together and your going down. HEHEHEHEHE!

[clat1]

Fuck Paul Krugman-he got headlines making snarky remarks about the WTO protests in Seattle & now he is sniveling about the consequences of globalization. Fuck him he's a piece of fucking shit I hope he dies of AIDS.

[clat1]

I don't know what you are talking about-globalization helped destroy labor,environmental and human rights standards in industry and Krugman was the biggest cheerleader for our free trade deals.

[foley15136]

WOW!