UK Creation Museum: Part 2 (A national disgrace and a local embarrassment)

[RelativelyHostile1]

the music and talking seems to be trying to hypnotise you into a sleep where they can then brainwash you effectively. However it is highly succeptable to common sense

[PaperShishigami]

3:35 is so painfully ironic that it hurts. Argument from authority from a long-dead (50 years plus) zoologist that obviously wasn't around for the majority of advances in evolutionary science. Real compelling. Not.

[unassumption]

They use the same few well explained organs all the time all over the world

[Noone1505123]

My ears started bleeding after 5 minutes of watching

[KaroKoenich]

That must be one of the highest concentrations of quote mines per square m in the entire world... There should be laws for institutions to keep a minimum standard of truth and testable facts before they can call themselves "museum".

[EvilEuropean]

An hour & a half! Your a brave man....I would have face-palmed myself to death!

[Sarusource]

'megachips.' Oh dear. Oh fkin dear!

[Gavite]

Right, I build computers every now and then, I know what memory chips are, or memory strips but wtf is a MEGA CHIP? was it in the megadrive?

[NooNoo123]

What with the bit of text saying "The genes on the Y chromosome are all so similar that scientists admit we are all decended from one man" or other such bollocks, is it worth noting all humans share around 90% of our genetic info with a banana tree?

We must all be descended from the same banana, or something...

[c1derpunk]

this is painful to watch! I'm shocked and horrified this exists in my country!

[twilight9197]

All you people do is make fun of the folks that bring us this information. It sounds quite interesting, I will have to look into some of the claims that were made.

[Answersinbooks]

@twilight9197 there are plenty of sources refuting the claims that are made in this place. I have taken on some of them in a recent video others are well known for their flaws. If you have no knowledge of these subjects I would suggest you, in addition to your research seek the advice of some of the pro science channels here on YT.

[M1ST3RHYDE]

This seams to be a Very good video & i'll Rate it ***** But im sorry That I cant Stomach The rest. I'll try to watch this & some other Creation B.S. thats Harming the potential of our Future after I Take A Serotonin enablers or Some form of anti-anxiety pill I can get my hands on.

[IHATEBAAL]

lol

[allensbriarpatch]

glad to hear that the UK has its share of nitwits I was convinced that the US had them all

[jeffparr123]

As I understand it the length of the DNA (in eukaryotes) has more to do with the number of generations between the first and now. Also how prone it is to virus infection, these can be incorporated into the DNA and add to the junk or kill it or make it work better.

As for information, think of DNA as a pile of single paragraphs cut from the works of Shakspere mixed with those cut from 1Million volumes written by chimps. For the cell to function order dosn't matter and the junk is ignored.

[swordhunter12]

Now, I don't really know much, if anything, about how genetic information works so please correct me if I'm wrong but amoebas have the highest amount of genetic information and they are single celled organisms with no real brain (or at least, not by human standards) so, does this mean that they have so much information that they can't form something more solid and precise? And, if so,could this mean that loss of information makes it easier to form a more complex lifeform?

[jeffparr123]

swordhunter12 Hi - The amoeba is a single celled organism of the same general type as those in our own body,

We have a common ancester going back to the first eukaryote (cells with a nucleus), and are just as evolved as ALL organisms alive today.

The number of nuclaic acid units in their Genome (total DNA) is ~100x that in ours (i think??). Most of DNA is junk and does absolutly nothing although loose any of it and sex wont work, still be fun though.

(contiued).

[jeffparr123]

Amoebae are absolutly great at what they do and theres more of then than there are of us, The were here in pritty much their current form before we took to the land and they'll be here long after we'r all dead so how needs a brain and a solid body.

DNA may hold the CPU design (brain) not the programs.

[mfunke]

I love it that they don't acknowledge science when it goes against their views, but use arguments based on science when they do.

Like the fact that we are all descendent of one single man. The same scientists who discovered that are the ones that use evolution on their researches. But on this example, it kinda goes with their fairy tale story, so they accept that fact.

[tammyterry]

The sad thing about all of this is that there are hundreds of religious people who can now say: "See, I knew all this stuff was true." Also, there are hundreds of religious whacko parents that can drag there kids to this embarrassment and brainwash them further! This is truly an embarrassment for mankind. Just think what aliens will think of us if they get hold of this nonsense!

[dave28lax]

Isn't Information Theory maths, not science? Nothing to do with biology or DNA, anyway.

[danmartin4]

I love it when they misquote Darwin they never show the full quote do they lol.

[1n354a]

what absolute garbage....imagine if the money used to make this shit-hole was actually put to good use?

[sabertooth1980]

I swear the One Song is playing in the background. That music is driving me insane.

More so when matched with the stupidity of what is being saying.

[joely1987c]

sick

[devil238]

The fuck is a megachip? Did they mean microchip at all?

[shoulderkolibri]

oh no, creationism is actually making a trend in Europe?

I thought you guys were better than America and our masses (70% to be exact) of mind-numbed bigots and idiots

[bads06]

Albert Fleischmann (1862-1942) <-- Noted German Creationist

[bshieldsbb01]

4:07

My god, that accent was so convincing I thought "Jesus! All of a sudden I can understand French perfectly."

These guys must have been big fans of Allo,Allo.

(plus its a blatant Quotemine: TalkOrigins, Cretinism or Evilution #3, E.T. Babinksi)

[Venator70]

What is it with the anti-evolutionists and an obsession with quotes (mined or otherwise)?

Oh man, I'd love to talk to someone who set up some of these displays. Think I could get away with printing out the entire "List of creationist claims" on talk.origins? Would there be anything in this building *not* covered by it?

I send out an open invitation to anyone to present an original claim for creationism or against evolution.

Take Care and RAmen!

Ven

[SeekerLancer]

They love quote mines because they know the science isn't on their side. They assume (probably correctly to a degree) that a false argument from authority using a quote mine will be enough to convince people who are too gullible to look into what the quote actually says.

I think it does a better job of strengthening the convictions of the believers than it does convince anybody who already knows it's a pile of crap.

[Venator70]

I've noticed that in Ray Comforts 'forward' to the Origin of Species he uses Darwin's infamous absurd eye quote, he even gives the page number AND the book itself to check to see that he's lying.

I don't think he actually expects his followers to read anything after his forward, which says to me that the whole thing is a publicity stunt and nothing more.

Take Care and RAmen!

Ven

[Orbitingmind]

I could not listen to all of it... my brain turned off

[edd77]

4:27 no no no just no

[AndrewTheEternal]

Wow, I was actually offended at their voice for Louis Bounoure. How stupid do they think their visitors...

You'd think I would learn.

[Widgetas]

Lies lies f*cking bastard liars.

Sorry, but I'm getting pretty damn angry watching this.

[alexkillsdie]

just wrong, wrong, wrong

[generaleskimo]

Did they just claim that dinosaurs could breath fire...

omg...

no... just no...

[generaleskimo]

Ah, information theory, that's something in my field. What's this? Information is lost when there are chance changes? Right, that's why NOBODY is spending BILLIONS of dollars researching quantum computers, which operate on chance in order to perform important operations faster.

I mean, how could information rely on probabilistic particle interactions, like those used to describe electron states in chemistry and biochemistry... oh wait a minute...

[generaleskimo]

What the fuck is a megachip?

[Zoppellaccia]

@4:10 So Louis Bounoure claimed that evolution is a fairy tail...interesting....so i googled the name and guess what?

LIES! LIES!

(quote from Agnosticman77's "crocoduck")

[drab100]

Creationists are without doubt the most vacant humans on the planet

[mikethebiped]

Wow, they quote mine the classics.

[golddigger159]

The verbal shit they are vomiting from their mouths is SO WRONG!! I'd like to take a copy of Dawkin's Greatest Show On Earth and stick it up their arse, several times, sideways.

[Paxmax]

at 4:08 they are taking the piss out of the French with a special snide accent.

Geez hilarious.

[GoblinXXX]

4:40- Miserable quote-mining fuckers!

[DarkAngel182]

LOL, I notice they've got that old chestnut about what Darwin said about the eye. Pity they don;t give you the FULL quote about what he said in the following paragraph!

[deconverts]

megachip? Don't they mean, "Microchip"?

[GoblinXXX]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who wondered about that.

I prefer the Chili Cheese flavored Megachips.

[deconverts]

I mean, Mega M (+000,000.) is the diametric opposite of Micro µ (-.000,000). A Megachip therefore would be of the order a trillion times the size of a Microchip.. a "Tera" increase compared to the chips shown in the museum.

Meaning.. the Megachips they are looking for would quite possibly stretch to the Moon! (1x10^12 the size of the chip in the picture)

[Paxmax]

that's what I thought... I stopped immediately to facepalm and recover...

[deconverts]

LOL! For a second I saw that and had to take a step back, "What WERE they thinking?".

[falchion49]

Dr Albert Fleischmann (1862-1942) of Erlangen University. An obscure and forgotten zoologist. "In his declining years Fleischmann informed English acquaintances that he was writing a book that will wipe evolution off the slate, but the work never appeared."-

Ronald L. Numbers: The Creationists- The Evolution of Scientific Creationism. Hardly contemporary then. Pre nuclear power, pre jet engines, pre anti-biotics.

[phenixwryter]

The horribly done French accented English quote and the bombardier beetle story (explaining "fire breathing dragons") made me laugh. This place is so goofy that its starting to be funny to me.

As Will said in Macbeth: "Lay on, Macduff, And damn'd be him that first cries, 'Hold Enough!'" Off to part 3! : )

[GoblinXXX]

You could just see that "frenchman" sitting there in his beret and striped shirt, with a garland of onions around his neck.

[dewonthegrass]

Will more people in the UK become fundamentalists because of that, I wonder?

[flyingfisbeefilms]

0:48 WTF! That's just utter rubbish!

[sapientiamcarpe]

unfortunately this is the kind of crap one must put up with if one values freedom of speech

[pete975]

the stupid hurts so much

Lies damn lies and Creationism

[spaceman300]

I bet It was like putting you brain in a blender,

Walking around the little shop of horrors

[spifflication]

It's like a UK based temple to Hovind bullshit.

That's depressing.

[AlxSnowxMatchsxRule]

they used the Darwin quote mine. lying fucktards.

humans are apes! non-human apes can paint and can do simple maths.

[Nightmare060]

Oh gods. the blatent show of UTTER stupidity is making me ill! They're using EVERY debunked trick in the book to try and poisen what has been a mostly fundamentalist-free country for the most part.

[falchion49]

If they took out everything that had been debunked they'd have no exhibits. It's the blatant lying that gets me. Then again, it's creationism; lying by default

[DarkAngel182]

Yeah, and what do their holy books say about "bearing false witness" exactly?

[falchion49]

Well, what are a few unbreakable commandments when you're lying for Jesus?

[MrYKNAL]

its like the creation BS you get on youTUBE but in museum form.

[CousinoMacul]

Unbelievable.

[nashertheatheist]

...And this is legal HOW?

[Scoforever]

I wanna see you debunk it not just show us their stupidity.

Evolution insults chimps because it implies that they are related to creationists.

[Answersinbooks]

That video will be made don't worry. However the whole horror of this expo needs to be seen so that some people can wake up to the fact that these sorts of organizations exist and present a threat to education.

[Hjernespreng]

I think I would be driven so crazy that I'd molotov the entire freaking place!

[shreddakj]

They are deceitful beyond belief....

[sirnlawson]

I feel sick just watching this...it makes me very angry that anyone would lie to people like this. I'm never going to get my head around how people can look at stuff like this and say "Yep - that makes sense".

[atomusk2015]

thanks for sharing !

But it is so painfull to watch this joke of a museum ...