I don't mind the sediment. Beer should be drunk from glasses anyway. I like using grolsh bottles with snap caps, but thanks Craig, always enjoy your information to make brewing better.
I was always taught that using screw caps was a no-no. Would these be an exception to the rule? I've been using the PET bottles supplied with the the kit and would love to move onto "prettier" looking bottles (as the misses says) and all the beer bought locally comes as screw ons.
Hey Craig i was just wondering how breweries carbonate their beers without having sediment in the bottom of thier bottles. do they use this sedex product?
@welshbrew4u No, most of them filter and then force carbonate, or carb at a temperature and pressure that keeps the CO2 from coming out of solution before capping. Some breweries do bottle-carb, though. You can tell because there's sediment in the bottle, and also because they taste better. :)
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I bought a box of these a few months ago, and they work great. However, I'm having a problem with the bases cracking and leaking. I emailed the company and they replaced them. They said that they only had one other problem. Lucky for me I don't bottle all my beer with them, only about 6 or 8 bottles from a batch. The rest is bottled in plastic bottles. Right now I'm loosing 1 or 2 bases from every batch. It happens in the first day or 2 after bottling. Anyone else have this problem?
hey craig thanks for the vid. I know you have been brewing for a long time but i was wondering how did you deal with the sediment before you bought these caps. did you not poor the whole beer in your glass to avoid sediment clouding the beer? the reason i asked is because i just bottled my beer and i do expect sediment when its ready but i still want my beer to look good when i pour it for the first time. Thanks.
Hello Hello, Hello Craig, hefe weissen beer is cloudy. I happen to like cloudy I 'm sure if I drank a bud or a lauger and it was cloudy it would concern me. Does the sediment contribute to the good tast of the brew.?Thanks have a great day!! Still looking @ your vidios haven't brewed yet I have a hefe kit. I want to buy a williams sonoma kit it is only one gallon kit, so I can get started. Thanks again!!
Hello Hello, Hello Craig, hefe weissen beer is cloudy. I happen to like cloudy I 'm sure if I drank a bud or a lauger and it was cloudy it would concern me. Thanks have a great day!! Still looking @ your vidios haven't brewed yet I have a hefe kit. I want to buy a williams sonoma kit it is only one gallon kit, so I can get started. Thanks again!!
That "Australian bottle" shown is only made for one particular commercial beer that isn't very nice to drink.
Would these work on those Coopers homebrew PET plastic bottles? Because you know, they have a lip on them bellow the cap thread. Would they even hold the sediment of a 750ml bottle?
Hi Craig. Is it possible to cap the bottles after the sediment has been captured in the bottom of the SedEx? Like simply remove the SedEx, and then cap the bottle with an oxygen absorbing cap, as if you were capping them like would normally be done? That way one isn't limited to the number of SedEx units. They are an excellent idea, but are absurdly expensive. SedEx needs some strong competition to bring down their inflated prices.
@SororThothma absolutely correct, after watching the video I was actually going to purchase about 45 of them till I seen the price. Holyshit!! $60 to ship them to the US. Not gonna happen.......
@bkbrown5881 One would think that the makers of the caps would clue in to the fact that they would sell far more of them (and hugely increase their profits) by reducing the price to some sane amount. The shipping is ludicrous also. I bet they will go out of business and somebody with greater business intelligence will re-market the caps for a fair price - and get wealthy by doing it.
@SororThothma With regards to your comments on the sedex caps you would have to be the most negitave thinking below average IQ person there could be. These people are on the other side of the planet as far as shipping goes, how much further away can you get than Australia and the US. The US also has a $9.50 security surcharge on all international parcels. They charged me a standard fee for shipping and when the postage fell below what they charged they refunded the balance.
Does anyone know if I can get reusable screw-top bottles in the UK? I know that Liddle sell Perlenbacher which is a screw cap but I'm not sure if the bottles are strong enough to handle a live beer.
Does anyone know if I can get reusable screw-top bottles in the UK? I know that Liddle sell Perlenbacher which is a screw cap but I'm not sure if the bottles are strong enough to handle a live beer.
@SionMorel You can get Coopers Ox-bar reusable screw-top bottles. Not sure what your UK brewing website is but I'm from Ireland and the Irish brew sites charge about 12-15eu for 24 500ml bottles. They're great!
That's good to know but are they compatible with these sedex sediment catchers and do you know of any glass screw top bottles as I'm not a big fan of plastic?
bottleling is a waste of time! unless you ware going to sell it, put the beer into 1/2 gallon growlers and a 5 gallon batch will fit into 10 1/2 gallon growlers.
That takes like 10 minutes to do, and lets face it you probably will want to drink the 1/2 gallon :- ) and not one bottle.
I eliminate most sediment by pouring beer into a fresh vat on bottling day. I have the original fermenter on a table. The new clean fermented on the floor. Using a tube I open the tap and let it drain into the fresh fermenter. Most of the crap stays in the original fermenter. Then I let the beer sit in the new fermenter for a couple of hours to settle before bottling. My beer is very clear and I drink it out of the bottle no worries :-)
@CelticDeathKIA Generally yes, but its going to be quite a few cell generations older than stuff straight out the fermenter, so it won't be quite as vigorous. The difference should only be subtle, but your still better trying to harvest out of the fermenter simply because you'll get so damn much of the yeast.
@walspur05 It was just like drinking store bought beer, but it was home brew. They worked very well. Too bad they don't have an American distributer because the shipping from AU is quite high.
I've saved more than 100 non threaded bottles for my homebrew bottling, this Sed Ex product is useless to me as of now. I don't drink any beers that come in threaded bottles and I'm not buying any threaded bottles so.....?
In the early 90s I was using a device called a Beerbrite cap, it looked like a long babies teat, trap the sediment in it and then bend it back on itself, trapping sediment. Leave it on, or chill the beer well and replace with a crown cap or plastic reseal. Per item cost very little. Cant find them now though, but the same device is still available for sparkling wine called Vintraps. Cheers Craig.
A great looking idea! And it works. My only reserve is that each bottle will need a device, and according to item cost, this could be very expensive. I appreciate they are re-useable but only after the beer has been consumed. Also its restricted to threaded bottles, Crown caps in the UK seem to be the norm.
CHEERS, i knew there be a product for this problem. , Man Craig than x for all the Vids man ive been brewing with mr beer and coopers since june of this year and ive got to thank you for finding a answer before i could even ask the question about sediment! and ive never had a bad batch keep showing these great vids
Thank you very much for explaining so well on how to brew beer. i hav learnt alot from you and hav successfully now bottled my hombrew hopefull it'll turn out well thankyou.
FYI the bottles that Aussie are using are Crown Lager Bottles... One of the best beers in Australia, I highly recommend you import a slab if you can Craig!
if your doin a follow up on this can you give us a close up of thread on glass bottle.I've never seen it on beer bottles in Ireland, though seen threads on glass cider bottles(hard cider you'd say)
also maybe a close up of the sedex yoke and its mechanism. would love to try them.....
when the price comes down.
if they'd gone on dragons den with it I'd probable have some already. thks
Its worth pointing out as well that "good" beer should ALWAYS be poured into a glass. And when pouring you can easily control the sediment.
A bottle inhibits your ability to smell the beer as you drink it, meaning you are not getting the full effect of the beer that you either paid dearly for or worked hard on.
I have four different styles of glasses that I use depending on the style of beer I am drinking, a habit I've noticed most serious homebrewers pick up to some extent...
Of course you are entitled to your opinion. Some lighter beers are not good "pourers" and therefore taste better from the bottle. Most people drink beer that way, so I thought it would be a good idea to make this available to those who fit in with that crowd. No harm done. Do you have any new videos planned?
Hey Craig, I just can't agree with some beers not being "good pourers" as almost all of what we think of as flavor is actually smell. People who are into gadgets would probably like these things, they just dont make sense to me.
I dont have any vids planned, but I am rebuilding my brewhouse so I may show that.
ALSO! An old friend of mine is opening a Microbrewery and I am going to be assistant brewer! I'll be chief bottle scrubber too as i am the only employee, there will be vids of that .
@OPE08 I think the point Craig was trying to make is it is almost impossible to take homebrews camping or to parties without getting the yeast mixed into the beer. I can attest to this, as I love taking my homebrews camping. I still pour them in a glass (or as I use for camping, an aluminum keg-mug), but the yeast is already mixed around at that point.
few sips of what is a great beer in the glass, but they did not like it in the bottle, as they have stirred up the yeast remenants.
It was my first batch, and funny, it got great reviews from those drinking from the glass, as well from the bottle, until the last few gulps. I tried to warn them........lol!
I would totally buy them-- I'm new to home brewing, so I'm just learning all the tricks, but I can see how these would be huge.
I'm enjoying the hobby immensely, but I can see how the sediment would be undesireable to some. This would be an easy fix to that problem, especially for those who you want to try your brew that enjoy drinking from the bottle. I have, unfortunately, run into a few people that insist on drinking from the bottle, and they dislike the last....................
No knocks on you, Craig, as I would be lost without your videos, but a good heads-up and review for a great new product!!!! Whoever designed these is a genius!!!
Forgot the other question-- Are they re-useable?? I'm guessing they are.
For those interested, the cost to use these on a basic 5 gallon batch is around $109.00 U.S. plus shipping. That will get you 60 of these. IF they are re-useable, I can see how the cost would be worth it in the long run, provided that sediment bothers you.
I think they are great-- have not used them, but for now I will pour lightly, until I find the need for them.
1- You say a "standard" beer bottle. When you do, do you mean a twist-off or a crimp? I'm assuming a twist, as if the SedEx is threaded it would not just "fit" onto a crimper.
2- Are U.S. glass bottles, say, Bud Light, threaded the same as Austraillian or Canadian bottles?
3- Did I see a batch of cider brewing in the background in the first vid?? I hope so!!!
Interesting thread. On the other hand I've heard it said that you want to get the beer off the sediment to avoid off flavours. Imagine me reading these comments for three years now and I still don't know the best way to do certain things. How can the beer oxidate when there's no oxygen left in the bottle after bottle fermentation and carbonation. You figure the pressure in the bottle would force the oxygen from the airspace into the beer and the yeast would use it up. How then can it oxidate?
Why don't you use a clarifier instead of mucking around with these sediment catches and maybe have the fermenter rested on a bit of an angle to keep the sediment in the fermenter away from the tap? Just a thought.
Would you say that this sediment is responsible for the fruity taste that is present in most home brews?
And have you noticed a loss in the fruity flavours eminent in home brew because of using this sediment catch things?
Fruit "esters" are the direct result of the yeast you chose, and the temperature at which your beer fermented. It is definitely not caused by the sediment, and unless you are unusually sensitive to the taste of esters you shouldn't see it in "most homebrews".
Usually, better control of your fermentation temps, and proper yeast choices will minimize or eliminate unwanted flavors.
Like the "bannana" flavor in a hefeweizen that was brewed too warm...
Looks Like a brilliant idea,however can you fit them on plastic beer bottles and plastic pop bottles? Also are they reusable? I think you refereed to it but not sure. Last question,is the plastic they are made off durable so that it won't snap or crack somewhere when you are twisting them on or off? Thanks Craig. Cheers
Hi Craig, Thanks for the video, it was very educational. A while back you and a friend shared a rickards red, any chance you care to share some of your other favourite domestic brands ?
Great idea, but it seems to me that opening a beer could get progressively more difficult after each beer...lol. Thanks Craig, keep doing what you do.
I'm tired of people thinking beer makes you fat. Theres nothing in beer that will make you gain weight. Its the food you eat with the beer that does that. Remember...there's no such thing as a beer belly.
I"m a gadget guy and that's great but more plastic for the landfill. It seems that secondary fermentation and then siphoning off the good from the sediment is the way to go....a bit more time consuming but less waste for the landfill. Love your videos dude!!!
Looks like a pretty cool product--but would probably be best for home brewers that don't brew very often--aka wouldn't need a whole lot of them. I did some quick math and the cost for the 150 pack plus shipping wound up being more than it would be to buy a new kegging setup. If the devices were brought in by a distributor here in the States, and you could eliminate the $188 AUD shipping cost, then these things would rock! Thanks for sharing Craig! Great vid!
Hi Craig. Great video and great products. Shame I have moved on to kegging or I would certainly buy some of those. I have one question before I go look at the site where you got them. What bottle tops do they fit onto? Are they for the twist top style only, or do they also suit the 'crown seal' or 'pop top' type bottles where you need a bottle opener to normally remove the cap? Cheers
Seems like a cool product, but I had a couple of concerns.
1. Will they only work with glass twist off 12 oz bottle? (I've got a 40oz bottle here and the cap will not fit on a 12oz twist off glass bottle)
2. Will they work with the standard PET bottle? I'd like a version that will work with plastic PET bottle.
IMO, bottling homebrew in 12oz bottle is going to take a lot of those things, but if they had a PET bottle version I could use 750ml, 1 liter, 2 liter bottles.
lol those wee things are awsome Craig, nice vd... oh and nice 'torch' too...ahem... yeah you know what I mean lol, when you showcasing the new one - and make sure to act like you don't even notice it's on... laughs all round :P.
Cool vid! That is a very interesting product. I think if push came to shove if I wanted to avoid sediment I would just move to kegging. I could use sediment as an excuse for SWMBO to let me build my kegerator. I like that you can use these on twist offs though. They are cheaper to get a bunch of then pop tops. I like the bottle conditioned taste so I can't see myself moving to these. Anyways good video. I saw that bottle of maple syrup and the LME on the counter can't wait Cheers Craig
A neat product. I could see this coming in handy, especially for camping and parties (as long as you don't leave your tops behind after having a few (-: ). My only concern is people taking the sediment off too soon, thus stopping the ageing process.
I think leaving them in tact for one month should do the trick. Remember that some people don't age their beer longer than two weeks anyway. Living pay to pay, and batch to batch.
I agree. I don't find my beers get that much better after a month or two. Although I did find a bottle of homebrew that was hidden in the fridge for over a year, and it tasted amazing!
Whilst i find all these vids brilliant one thing still is nigling at me, what is the name of the song that comes on at the beginning, also i hate the taste of sediment and i am going to seek these out.
Craig, Again GOOD FIND but I was wondering if you could use the bottle as a secondary carboy and carbonate at the same time? Just a late brain fart I had. Last comment got some gears turning.
Well, I think that's what we're doing. Many schools of thought on this, and every aspect of beer making, as I'm finding out. Some say that the beer ages better when it's all together. I've never found that, but I don't claim to be an expert.
looks like a great product although I don't mind the sediment. Off topic, are you waiting for someone to ask about the maple syrup on the table? is it true are you really gonna huh huh ? :)
You've won the jackpot!! Yes I was waiting for someone to ask about that. That's why I put it there hehe. The video is on it's way. Very observant of you. You get a sticker :)
Okay, hang on a sec, you dont want to bother with boiling or mashing, quality yeast or any of that but you will pay money to have individual bottle filters?
Why not just run it thru a filter when its on its way to the bottling bucket?
Or, I have to say, if you were boiling your wort then you could use isinglass, irish moss or whirflock and drastically reduce the problem.
Interesting product, but its like inventing a steel tire instead of picking up the nails in your driveway. No?
@OPE08 If you filter the sediment out then it won't carbonate as fast, as you are getting rid of the yeast etc.
I actually thought craig was going to show another product, that artificially carbonates your beer as you bottle. Now thats a neat product, although I'm guessing more expensive.
Who needs fast? And you'd have to use a pretty fine filter to get the yeast out.
Force carbonating and then bottling is yet another odd practice I don't get. If you are going to force carbonate then just keg, the whole point of bottle conditioning is the conditioning and aging...
@OPE08 You might want to do a 2 stage fermentation to clear and age your beer, then force carbonating in the bottle is definitely an option.
Benefits? You can drink your bottles straight away, there are no yeasty off flavours and you can store them how you like.
Also kegging is great, I would love to do it. But I like to share my homebrew with family and kegging is only good for when people come to visit, not take away.
I always do a 2-stage ferment, even when its not neccesary, its just a habit I picked up from when I was an amateur.
Force carbonating and then bottling is of course an option, I just don't get it! If I was going to the trouble and expense of buying a Co2 kit I wouldn't bottle, I would keg. And if I wanted to hand it out I could always fill a bottle or growler as needed.
And I don't get "yeasty off flavors", because I choose my yeast, ferm temps, and clarifiers carefully, and pour carefully..
Well, first of all, let's get this strait. It's not a filter at all. It does not remove the sediment from the ageing beer. It just gives it another place to settle that can be removed before drinking. I think that kills the whole argument, no?
I should also remind my viewers that at this time, I don't have a convenient way to obtain raw ingredients for making beer; at least not without paying huge shipping costs. For those who were paying attention, you've heard me mention a few times that my local supplier is building up his product line, and when that happens, I will be more than happy to boil, mash and all the rest, even though personally I feel no need to.
People still asking that question? Geez some people just don't get it. Nothing wrong with brewing from a Can, it's a little more forgiving for a novice. :-)
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skevsallstar 3 weeks ago
Hey Craig... you know where to buy those caps in Mexico? where can I get them?
ahiJabo 1 month ago
Cheers!
TrainingMuscle25 1 month ago
I don't mind the sediment. Beer should be drunk from glasses anyway. I like using grolsh bottles with snap caps, but thanks Craig, always enjoy your information to make brewing better.
jizzily 2 months ago
Hey Craig
I was always taught that using screw caps was a no-no. Would these be an exception to the rule? I've been using the PET bottles supplied with the the kit and would love to move onto "prettier" looking bottles (as the misses says) and all the beer bought locally comes as screw ons.
Cheers,
Kris
MrKristasic 2 months ago
Hey Craig i was just wondering how breweries carbonate their beers without having sediment in the bottom of thier bottles. do they use this sedex product?
welshbrew4u 3 months ago
@welshbrew4u No, most of them filter and then force carbonate, or carb at a temperature and pressure that keeps the CO2 from coming out of solution before capping. Some breweries do bottle-carb, though. You can tell because there's sediment in the bottle, and also because they taste better. :)
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RickJReynolds 2 months ago
Got one question Craig.... Im assuming that you have to purchase twist off bottles? Instead of pop top bottles
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ardtimoteo 4 months ago
Hi Craig,
I bought a box of these a few months ago, and they work great. However, I'm having a problem with the bases cracking and leaking. I emailed the company and they replaced them. They said that they only had one other problem. Lucky for me I don't bottle all my beer with them, only about 6 or 8 bottles from a batch. The rest is bottled in plastic bottles. Right now I'm loosing 1 or 2 bases from every batch. It happens in the first day or 2 after bottling. Anyone else have this problem?
42musket 5 months ago
hey craig thanks for the vid. I know you have been brewing for a long time but i was wondering how did you deal with the sediment before you bought these caps. did you not poor the whole beer in your glass to avoid sediment clouding the beer? the reason i asked is because i just bottled my beer and i do expect sediment when its ready but i still want my beer to look good when i pour it for the first time. Thanks.
Xxdevilwomen666xX 5 months ago
@Xxdevilwomen666xX Just pour it slowly and don't let it "glug". Leave the last half inch behind.
CraigTube 5 months ago
@CraigTube have they thought about the fact that you might be able to use the sedimentary yeast for cultivating future batches?
absolutNV 4 months ago
Nice review. Thanks for the information. :)
TheSilencer44 6 months ago
Hello Hello, Hello Craig, hefe weissen beer is cloudy. I happen to like cloudy I 'm sure if I drank a bud or a lauger and it was cloudy it would concern me. Does the sediment contribute to the good tast of the brew.?Thanks have a great day!! Still looking @ your vidios haven't brewed yet I have a hefe kit. I want to buy a williams sonoma kit it is only one gallon kit, so I can get started. Thanks again!!
tbreebo 7 months ago
Hello Hello, Hello Craig, hefe weissen beer is cloudy. I happen to like cloudy I 'm sure if I drank a bud or a lauger and it was cloudy it would concern me. Thanks have a great day!! Still looking @ your vidios haven't brewed yet I have a hefe kit. I want to buy a williams sonoma kit it is only one gallon kit, so I can get started. Thanks again!!
tbreebo 7 months ago
can these caps be re-used?
Johnny1969d 7 months ago in playlist Homebrew
Craig, do you still use these "sediment caps"?
MrSchpankme 7 months ago
@MrSchpankme I have from time to time.
CraigTube 7 months ago
well done, sir!
apathy24 7 months ago
Do you think the beer carbonates better because there's a large surface area exposed to building CO2 pressure from the bottom?
fakeadam19 7 months ago
@fakeadam19 I think it's the same as usual, but with no sediment.
CraigTube 7 months ago 2
Hi craig. I think i love you! Thanks!
marcus243 8 months ago
you dont like crown larger ? come on there not too bad
what dose leave a bad taste in my mouth tho is there price $ha $hing
08R6dude 8 months ago
That "Australian bottle" shown is only made for one particular commercial beer that isn't very nice to drink.
Would these work on those Coopers homebrew PET plastic bottles? Because you know, they have a lip on them bellow the cap thread. Would they even hold the sediment of a 750ml bottle?
DrDribs 8 months ago
@DrDribs They only work on the threaded glass bottles.
CraigTube 8 months ago
Your from Ontario.
bots4life 9 months ago
Hi Craig. Is it possible to cap the bottles after the sediment has been captured in the bottom of the SedEx? Like simply remove the SedEx, and then cap the bottle with an oxygen absorbing cap, as if you were capping them like would normally be done? That way one isn't limited to the number of SedEx units. They are an excellent idea, but are absurdly expensive. SedEx needs some strong competition to bring down their inflated prices.
SororThothma 9 months ago
@SororThothma absolutely correct, after watching the video I was actually going to purchase about 45 of them till I seen the price. Holyshit!! $60 to ship them to the US. Not gonna happen.......
bkbrown5881 2 months ago
@bkbrown5881 One would think that the makers of the caps would clue in to the fact that they would sell far more of them (and hugely increase their profits) by reducing the price to some sane amount. The shipping is ludicrous also. I bet they will go out of business and somebody with greater business intelligence will re-market the caps for a fair price - and get wealthy by doing it.
Their greed and stupidity will do them in.
SororThothma 2 months ago
@SororThothma With regards to your comments on the sedex caps you would have to be the most negitave thinking below average IQ person there could be. These people are on the other side of the planet as far as shipping goes, how much further away can you get than Australia and the US. The US also has a $9.50 security surcharge on all international parcels. They charged me a standard fee for shipping and when the postage fell below what they charged they refunded the balance.
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SororThothma 9 months ago
hi craig, im a new timer from australia. How does cider taste?
Lestymashy 9 months ago
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Does anyone know if I can get reusable screw-top bottles in the UK? I know that Liddle sell Perlenbacher which is a screw cap but I'm not sure if the bottles are strong enough to handle a live beer.
SionMorel 9 months ago
Does anyone know if I can get reusable screw-top bottles in the UK? I know that Liddle sell Perlenbacher which is a screw cap but I'm not sure if the bottles are strong enough to handle a live beer.
SionMorel 9 months ago
@SionMorel You can get Coopers Ox-bar reusable screw-top bottles. Not sure what your UK brewing website is but I'm from Ireland and the Irish brew sites charge about 12-15eu for 24 500ml bottles. They're great!
cormaccrawley 9 months ago
@cormaccrawley
That's good to know but are they compatible with these sedex sediment catchers and do you know of any glass screw top bottles as I'm not a big fan of plastic?
SionMorel 7 months ago
can you just put a coffee filter over the bottle filter? please respond craig.
TheGamingGames 10 months ago
@TheGamingGames It's not that simple. That would be un successful.
CraigTube 10 months ago
@CraigTube alright, thanks craig!
TheGamingGames 10 months ago
These things are outrageous in price. There has to be a cheaper alternative?
jerwar68 10 months ago
bottleling is a waste of time! unless you ware going to sell it, put the beer into 1/2 gallon growlers and a 5 gallon batch will fit into 10 1/2 gallon growlers.
That takes like 10 minutes to do, and lets face it you probably will want to drink the 1/2 gallon :- ) and not one bottle.
rompstar 10 months ago
do you have to use screw off bottles or can you use pop tops?
BIGBREWnick 11 months ago
I eliminate most sediment by pouring beer into a fresh vat on bottling day. I have the original fermenter on a table. The new clean fermented on the floor. Using a tube I open the tap and let it drain into the fresh fermenter. Most of the crap stays in the original fermenter. Then I let the beer sit in the new fermenter for a couple of hours to settle before bottling. My beer is very clear and I drink it out of the bottle no worries :-)
MrChip138 11 months ago
have you seen anyone using the blichmann beergun to bottle from a keg ? what do you think ?
mooinglamb 11 months ago
Great video Craig "As always" !!!
chesterfieldhooligan 11 months ago
Craig. If I pay you, would you be my dad?
yaw26y 1 year ago 29
Thanks man. Exactly what we've been looking for =)
Danny1337 1 year ago
would you say, that you will use these every time you bottle your home brew, from now on and forever and ever?
mmixon82 1 year ago
@mmixon82 Well, I haven't bottled since this video. I keg now, but yes I would use them again and again.
CraigTube 1 year ago
I prefer beer out of bottles. But this seems a bit much. Why boy carbonate in a keg then bottle?
chefjoemac 1 year ago
Do they work with reusable PET plastic bottles
offramp100 1 year ago
Awesome product. Excellent info. Thanks for sharing!
ChefSupaP1mp 1 year ago
Excellent Report Craig.
Spitzbube 1 year ago
Can you harvest the sediment for yeast culturing?
CelticDeathKIA 1 year ago
@CelticDeathKIA sure.
CraigTube 1 year ago
@CelticDeathKIA Generally yes, but its going to be quite a few cell generations older than stuff straight out the fermenter, so it won't be quite as vigorous. The difference should only be subtle, but your still better trying to harvest out of the fermenter simply because you'll get so damn much of the yeast.
MrShayneOneill 10 months ago
Thanks for this. Interesting
ddd3240 1 year ago
Hey this is cool. Btw, where did you get the glass fermenting jar in the back?
kami3233 1 year ago
@kami3233 Well, it's a carboy that can be purchased at any home brew store.
CraigTube 1 year ago
Here's the Brodie Anti Sediment Television Interview: v=UYHCX1a-eak
saintveil 1 year ago
the bottles you were using... were they screw tops or pry off.... also does it matter????
jmikes1derboy 1 year ago
Thanks. I just might be ordering some, that sediment is a big issue for me.
walspur05 1 year ago
Seems like a very neat product, how did the batch turn out?
walspur05 1 year ago
@walspur05 It was just like drinking store bought beer, but it was home brew. They worked very well. Too bad they don't have an American distributer because the shipping from AU is quite high.
CraigTube 1 year ago
Great video Craig, keep up the good work! Unfortunately, the website of sedex seems to be down.
daan5000 1 year ago
I've saved more than 100 non threaded bottles for my homebrew bottling, this Sed Ex product is useless to me as of now. I don't drink any beers that come in threaded bottles and I'm not buying any threaded bottles so.....?
fatsachs 1 year ago
In the early 90s I was using a device called a Beerbrite cap, it looked like a long babies teat, trap the sediment in it and then bend it back on itself, trapping sediment. Leave it on, or chill the beer well and replace with a crown cap or plastic reseal. Per item cost very little. Cant find them now though, but the same device is still available for sparkling wine called Vintraps. Cheers Craig.
Foxpest 1 year ago
A great looking idea! And it works. My only reserve is that each bottle will need a device, and according to item cost, this could be very expensive. I appreciate they are re-useable but only after the beer has been consumed. Also its restricted to threaded bottles, Crown caps in the UK seem to be the norm.
Foxpest 1 year ago
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Does it work to use with the bottles that comes with the "copers micro brewery"? Anyone know?
jobl9900 1 year ago
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Does it work to use with the bottles that comes with the "copers micro brewery"? Anyone know?
jobl9900 1 year ago
Does it work to use with the bottles that comes with the "copers micro brewery"? Anyone know?
jobl9900 1 year ago
@jobl9900 No they do not.
CraigTube 1 year ago
That is awesome! IDoes it only work with threaded bottles? Is there a non-threaded version?
immolateus 1 year ago
@immolateus Threaded bottles only.
CraigTube 1 year ago
good idea, shipping to expensive....
timorum 1 year ago
great idea,keen to try but shipping prices kill the whole concept
timorum 1 year ago
Wow, thanks for this one Craig, I'll give this product a go!!
davefromtassie 1 year ago
CHEERS, i knew there be a product for this problem. , Man Craig than x for all the Vids man ive been brewing with mr beer and coopers since june of this year and ive got to thank you for finding a answer before i could even ask the question about sediment! and ive never had a bad batch keep showing these great vids
godemunkey 1 year ago
These are the guys who thought up the idea Craig. They appeared on the aussy tv show 'The New Inventors' and it went crazy after that.
Thought you might find it interesting: watch?v=hXYNY2rcJXU
fflipsidee 1 year ago
Thank you very much for explaining so well on how to brew beer. i hav learnt alot from you and hav successfully now bottled my hombrew hopefull it'll turn out well thankyou.
Mark82382 1 year ago
Thanks for doing the Video Craig and mentioning me
It was I who put you on to this product still havent tried them myself yet
Cheers Simon
goldusthuk 1 year ago
@goldusthuk Ahh, it was you. I couldn't remember who led me to them. I just put an annotation in the video with your youtube name. Thanks!
CraigTube 1 year ago
Thanks for doing the Video Craig
It was I who put you on to this product still havent tried them myself yet
Cheers Simon
goldusthuk 1 year ago
dig this video man. that's awesome.
merddyn2002 1 year ago
FYI the bottles that Aussie are using are Crown Lager Bottles... One of the best beers in Australia, I highly recommend you import a slab if you can Craig!
gurks31 1 year ago
technology marches forward!
aidanxfriesen 2 years ago
does it work only with screw top or also crown top?
Jaki1091 2 years ago
Just drink the stuff and DON'T WORRY HAVE A HOMEBREW!
eedwards74 2 years ago
Craig....can you get these cheaper than a 110 bucks for 30.....
WannabeHomebrewer 2 years ago
Currently not until they work out a US distrib deal with someone.
CraigTube 2 years ago
@WannabeHomebrewer They have reduced the price to $72.50
super0pimp 1 year ago
if your doin a follow up on this can you give us a close up of thread on glass bottle.I've never seen it on beer bottles in Ireland, though seen threads on glass cider bottles(hard cider you'd say)
also maybe a close up of the sedex yoke and its mechanism. would love to try them.....
when the price comes down.
if they'd gone on dragons den with it I'd probable have some already. thks
ballhitch2 2 years ago
Seems like a cool idea, but probably not worth the cost.
And does it really help with dead yeast sediment? Buddies with light stomachs can't take it.
MrTreJ1 2 years ago
Are these for screw type bottles or non thread might have missed that part. Good idea though . Cheers Craig
d123p61 2 years ago
112 bucks for 30 of em..... Holy crap
WannabeHomebrewer 2 years ago
too bad it does't work with plastic bottles.
kwaidonjin 2 years ago
Craig!!! does it work on 1 liter plastic bottle or we have to use regular glass bottles...
MrRatrix 2 years ago
Its worth pointing out as well that "good" beer should ALWAYS be poured into a glass. And when pouring you can easily control the sediment.
A bottle inhibits your ability to smell the beer as you drink it, meaning you are not getting the full effect of the beer that you either paid dearly for or worked hard on.
I have four different styles of glasses that I use depending on the style of beer I am drinking, a habit I've noticed most serious homebrewers pick up to some extent...
OPE08 2 years ago
Of course you are entitled to your opinion. Some lighter beers are not good "pourers" and therefore taste better from the bottle. Most people drink beer that way, so I thought it would be a good idea to make this available to those who fit in with that crowd. No harm done. Do you have any new videos planned?
CraigTube 2 years ago
Hey Craig, I just can't agree with some beers not being "good pourers" as almost all of what we think of as flavor is actually smell. People who are into gadgets would probably like these things, they just dont make sense to me.
I dont have any vids planned, but I am rebuilding my brewhouse so I may show that.
ALSO! An old friend of mine is opening a Microbrewery and I am going to be assistant brewer! I'll be chief bottle scrubber too as i am the only employee, there will be vids of that .
OPE08 2 years ago
@OPE08 I think the point Craig was trying to make is it is almost impossible to take homebrews camping or to parties without getting the yeast mixed into the beer. I can attest to this, as I love taking my homebrews camping. I still pour them in a glass (or as I use for camping, an aluminum keg-mug), but the yeast is already mixed around at that point.
Cheers!
PeiHomeBrewer 1 year ago
Thanks Craig,
A cool little gizmo for homebrew gearheads! They are expensive however.
Cost benefit? Sorta like buying groceries at the convenience store instead of the super market.
ihikefar 2 years ago
few sips of what is a great beer in the glass, but they did not like it in the bottle, as they have stirred up the yeast remenants.
It was my first batch, and funny, it got great reviews from those drinking from the glass, as well from the bottle, until the last few gulps. I tried to warn them........lol!
RANGER2D 2 years ago
I would totally buy them-- I'm new to home brewing, so I'm just learning all the tricks, but I can see how these would be huge.
I'm enjoying the hobby immensely, but I can see how the sediment would be undesireable to some. This would be an easy fix to that problem, especially for those who you want to try your brew that enjoy drinking from the bottle. I have, unfortunately, run into a few people that insist on drinking from the bottle, and they dislike the last....................
RANGER2D 2 years ago
No knocks on you, Craig, as I would be lost without your videos, but a good heads-up and review for a great new product!!!! Whoever designed these is a genius!!!
CHEERS!!!!!!
RANGER2D 2 years ago
Forgot the other question-- Are they re-useable?? I'm guessing they are.
For those interested, the cost to use these on a basic 5 gallon batch is around $109.00 U.S. plus shipping. That will get you 60 of these. IF they are re-useable, I can see how the cost would be worth it in the long run, provided that sediment bothers you.
I think they are great-- have not used them, but for now I will pour lightly, until I find the need for them.
RANGER2D 2 years ago
I think they might be looking at gaining a North American distributer, which would cut down huge on the shipping costs.
CraigTube 2 years ago
That would be awesome!
terpsichoreankid 2 years ago
OH NO!! My computer froze up while looking at the comments, so sorry for the redundant questions!!!
RANGER2D 2 years ago
Craig--
Just a couple of questions:
1- You say a "standard" beer bottle. When you do, do you mean a twist-off or a crimp? I'm assuming a twist, as if the SedEx is threaded it would not just "fit" onto a crimper.
2- Are U.S. glass bottles, say, Bud Light, threaded the same as Austraillian or Canadian bottles?
3- Did I see a batch of cider brewing in the background in the first vid?? I hope so!!!
Thanks--
REDRANGER
RANGER2D 2 years ago
Interesting thread. On the other hand I've heard it said that you want to get the beer off the sediment to avoid off flavours. Imagine me reading these comments for three years now and I still don't know the best way to do certain things. How can the beer oxidate when there's no oxygen left in the bottle after bottle fermentation and carbonation. You figure the pressure in the bottle would force the oxygen from the airspace into the beer and the yeast would use it up. How then can it oxidate?
CraigTube 2 years ago
Why don't you use a clarifier instead of mucking around with these sediment catches and maybe have the fermenter rested on a bit of an angle to keep the sediment in the fermenter away from the tap? Just a thought.
Would you say that this sediment is responsible for the fruity taste that is present in most home brews?
And have you noticed a loss in the fruity flavours eminent in home brew because of using this sediment catch things?
JeroXR6T 2 years ago
Fruit "esters" are the direct result of the yeast you chose, and the temperature at which your beer fermented. It is definitely not caused by the sediment, and unless you are unusually sensitive to the taste of esters you shouldn't see it in "most homebrews".
Usually, better control of your fermentation temps, and proper yeast choices will minimize or eliminate unwanted flavors.
Like the "bannana" flavor in a hefeweizen that was brewed too warm...
OPE08 2 years ago
Looks Like a brilliant idea,however can you fit them on plastic beer bottles and plastic pop bottles? Also are they reusable? I think you refereed to it but not sure. Last question,is the plastic they are made off durable so that it won't snap or crack somewhere when you are twisting them on or off? Thanks Craig. Cheers
jakeanddar 2 years ago
Don't worry, I was just in a shitty mood when I replied.
CraigTube 2 years ago
another great video.
moedogger21 2 years ago
Craig, an interesting item there; shipping costs seem exorbitant!
bigmig54 2 years ago
Hi Craig, Thanks for the video, it was very educational. A while back you and a friend shared a rickards red, any chance you care to share some of your other favourite domestic brands ?
cheers !
archangel1x 2 years ago
Looks like a great product. I've never been bothered by the sediment, but I can see it's place on the market. Thanks for the info!!
spaar503 2 years ago
Looks like a good product but a little expensive after shipping to North America. And I'm sure you'd have to pay duty by the time it got here.
weirdbeer 2 years ago
Great idea, but it seems to me that opening a beer could get progressively more difficult after each beer...lol. Thanks Craig, keep doing what you do.
hoppinglion01 2 years ago
That's a very useful product. Very cool.
JackDooner 2 years ago
I'm tired of people thinking beer makes you fat. Theres nothing in beer that will make you gain weight. Its the food you eat with the beer that does that. Remember...there's no such thing as a beer belly.
teamhex 2 years ago
I"m a gadget guy and that's great but more plastic for the landfill. It seems that secondary fermentation and then siphoning off the good from the sediment is the way to go....a bit more time consuming but less waste for the landfill. Love your videos dude!!!
jeremyb314 2 years ago
Looks like a pretty cool product--but would probably be best for home brewers that don't brew very often--aka wouldn't need a whole lot of them. I did some quick math and the cost for the 150 pack plus shipping wound up being more than it would be to buy a new kegging setup. If the devices were brought in by a distributor here in the States, and you could eliminate the $188 AUD shipping cost, then these things would rock! Thanks for sharing Craig! Great vid!
terpsichoreankid 2 years ago
Hey Craig, i try to find out if these "valves" also function with swiss bottles... Thanks for all of your videos! Greetings from Steffisburg
waxedback 2 years ago
great vid
maginn2000 2 years ago
that is cool, seems like it would make cleaning the bottles way easier too.
knappydanny 2 years ago
Hi Craig. Great video and great products. Shame I have moved on to kegging or I would certainly buy some of those. I have one question before I go look at the site where you got them. What bottle tops do they fit onto? Are they for the twist top style only, or do they also suit the 'crown seal' or 'pop top' type bottles where you need a bottle opener to normally remove the cap? Cheers
Dave
hoopztube 2 years ago
Seems like a cool product, but I had a couple of concerns.
1. Will they only work with glass twist off 12 oz bottle? (I've got a 40oz bottle here and the cap will not fit on a 12oz twist off glass bottle)
2. Will they work with the standard PET bottle? I'd like a version that will work with plastic PET bottle.
IMO, bottling homebrew in 12oz bottle is going to take a lot of those things, but if they had a PET bottle version I could use 750ml, 1 liter, 2 liter bottles.
TesterCustoms 2 years ago
Well right now they make them to fit the standard thread on the glass beer bottles. You'll have to check the thread on other sizes.
CraigTube 2 years ago
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TesterCustoms 2 years ago
hi craig, how does it fit on the top of the bottles? can you use any beer bottles without a tread at the top?
cheers
bustedsas 2 years ago 2
You have to use standard threaded beer bottles from the store. Not hard to come by, certainly.
CraigTube 2 years ago
will these work on the coopers plastic bottles also?
1800gw 2 years ago 2
No, it's not the same thread.
CraigTube 2 years ago
lol those wee things are awsome Craig, nice vd... oh and nice 'torch' too...ahem... yeah you know what I mean lol, when you showcasing the new one - and make sure to act like you don't even notice it's on... laughs all round :P.
Speak soon.
Potts.
Potts2k8 2 years ago
I'll have to make that video soon. I'm getting in the mood LOL! Cheers Potts.
CraigTube 2 years ago
Awesome, I'm going to pick some up. Thanks Craig.
furtivegain 2 years ago
If you want to condition or age your beer you can store them upright, then flip them a week or so before you want to drink them.
BNAZZ55 2 years ago
what beer are you drinking in the video
price8130 2 years ago
It's a brown sugar lager (Cooper's kit)
CraigTube 2 years ago
Cool vid! That is a very interesting product. I think if push came to shove if I wanted to avoid sediment I would just move to kegging. I could use sediment as an excuse for SWMBO to let me build my kegerator. I like that you can use these on twist offs though. They are cheaper to get a bunch of then pop tops. I like the bottle conditioned taste so I can't see myself moving to these. Anyways good video. I saw that bottle of maple syrup and the LME on the counter can't wait Cheers Craig
orstk320 2 years ago
@PoliticalExile3 I have the same concern. It would be something that should be left on the beer, I think, until you're actually opening it to drink.
PeiHomeBrewer 2 years ago
A neat product. I could see this coming in handy, especially for camping and parties (as long as you don't leave your tops behind after having a few (-: ). My only concern is people taking the sediment off too soon, thus stopping the ageing process.
PeiHomeBrewer 2 years ago
I think leaving them in tact for one month should do the trick. Remember that some people don't age their beer longer than two weeks anyway. Living pay to pay, and batch to batch.
CraigTube 2 years ago
I agree. I don't find my beers get that much better after a month or two. Although I did find a bottle of homebrew that was hidden in the fridge for over a year, and it tasted amazing!
PeiHomeBrewer 2 years ago
Whilst i find all these vids brilliant one thing still is nigling at me, what is the name of the song that comes on at the beginning, also i hate the taste of sediment and i am going to seek these out.
EBOWARRIOR 2 years ago
Craig, Again GOOD FIND but I was wondering if you could use the bottle as a secondary carboy and carbonate at the same time? Just a late brain fart I had. Last comment got some gears turning.
chris95069 2 years ago
Well, I think that's what we're doing. Many schools of thought on this, and every aspect of beer making, as I'm finding out. Some say that the beer ages better when it's all together. I've never found that, but I don't claim to be an expert.
CraigTube 2 years ago
where these brown sugar lager in the bottles?
pallgisla 2 years ago
Yipper. What a great taste.
CraigTube 2 years ago
looks like a great product although I don't mind the sediment. Off topic, are you waiting for someone to ask about the maple syrup on the table? is it true are you really gonna huh huh ? :)
Markmark1356 2 years ago
You've won the jackpot!! Yes I was waiting for someone to ask about that. That's why I put it there hehe. The video is on it's way. Very observant of you. You get a sticker :)
CraigTube 2 years ago
Okay, hang on a sec, you dont want to bother with boiling or mashing, quality yeast or any of that but you will pay money to have individual bottle filters?
Why not just run it thru a filter when its on its way to the bottling bucket?
Or, I have to say, if you were boiling your wort then you could use isinglass, irish moss or whirflock and drastically reduce the problem.
Interesting product, but its like inventing a steel tire instead of picking up the nails in your driveway. No?
OPE08 2 years ago
@OPE08 If you filter the sediment out then it won't carbonate as fast, as you are getting rid of the yeast etc.
I actually thought craig was going to show another product, that artificially carbonates your beer as you bottle. Now thats a neat product, although I'm guessing more expensive.
LeJimster 2 years ago
Who needs fast? And you'd have to use a pretty fine filter to get the yeast out.
Force carbonating and then bottling is yet another odd practice I don't get. If you are going to force carbonate then just keg, the whole point of bottle conditioning is the conditioning and aging...
OPE08 2 years ago
@OPE08 You might want to do a 2 stage fermentation to clear and age your beer, then force carbonating in the bottle is definitely an option.
Benefits? You can drink your bottles straight away, there are no yeasty off flavours and you can store them how you like.
Also kegging is great, I would love to do it. But I like to share my homebrew with family and kegging is only good for when people come to visit, not take away.
LeJimster 2 years ago
I always do a 2-stage ferment, even when its not neccesary, its just a habit I picked up from when I was an amateur.
Force carbonating and then bottling is of course an option, I just don't get it! If I was going to the trouble and expense of buying a Co2 kit I wouldn't bottle, I would keg. And if I wanted to hand it out I could always fill a bottle or growler as needed.
And I don't get "yeasty off flavors", because I choose my yeast, ferm temps, and clarifiers carefully, and pour carefully..
OPE08 2 years ago
The simple reason I could think of it, if you filter it when bottling it, it isn't going to carbonate, nor will it age properly.
PeiHomeBrewer 2 years ago
Well, first of all, let's get this strait. It's not a filter at all. It does not remove the sediment from the ageing beer. It just gives it another place to settle that can be removed before drinking. I think that kills the whole argument, no?
CraigTube 2 years ago
I should also remind my viewers that at this time, I don't have a convenient way to obtain raw ingredients for making beer; at least not without paying huge shipping costs. For those who were paying attention, you've heard me mention a few times that my local supplier is building up his product line, and when that happens, I will be more than happy to boil, mash and all the rest, even though personally I feel no need to.
CraigTube 2 years ago
People still asking that question? Geez some people just don't get it. Nothing wrong with brewing from a Can, it's a little more forgiving for a novice. :-)
mixmmick 2 years ago
True! Its no different than making a cake from a box to learn the basics before you try to bake from scratch.
OPE08 2 years ago
you really need to open that online store man.
thedaoofplus1 2 years ago
Awesome find!! Thanks for sharing!!
thomw1983 2 years ago
I remember this, it was on a show in australia called new inventors
mixmmick 2 years ago
That's one of the things I watch before I ordered them.
CraigTube 2 years ago